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ddaniyal
03-04-2012, 12:48 PM
Dear all

i just got my 9mm computerized liesense, initially i want to have a cf 98 but i am having a range upto 30K so should i go for a used one or do i have any other option?

black arrow
03-04-2012, 12:52 PM
ddaniyal,

cf98 would be around 40k. Maybe you will find a used one, if its in good condition, then why not? its a reliable handgun.

otherwise you have 30 bore: chinese norinco around 20k, or zastava m57.

gunenthusiast
03-04-2012, 12:54 PM
if you want a really good gun and value for money than go for stoeger cougar8000.

Denovo87
03-04-2012, 01:15 PM
Welcome aboard ddaniyal bro; can you please update your location in your profile? it will get you quicker assistance.
Per my knowledge you have to purchase gun before issuance of computerized license; you purchase weapon on your demand note & provide its details to issuing authority (with purchase receipt) to be printed on the Compt'd license. Now what license you got? provincial or MOI?

Avais
03-04-2012, 02:08 PM
Welcome ddanial on the forum and congrats for having an arms license.

ddaniyal
03-04-2012, 03:19 PM
Dear Denovo87,
i got the computerized book shape liesense that resembles with the passport and the one you are are talking is computerized but in card form. i may add that my lisesnse is provincial for caliber: nbp

ddaniyal
03-04-2012, 03:21 PM
Dear Avais,
Thanks man

ddaniyal
03-04-2012, 03:22 PM
what is the price of cougar 8000

ddaniyal
03-04-2012, 03:30 PM
You guys are far faster than i thought, any way thanks alot for your quick response.
i am avoiding to go with chinese pistol 636, that why i am desiring to have a CF98 (used) as i have already mentioned that my range is a upto 30+2K.

ddaniyal
03-04-2012, 03:41 PM
Dear gunenthusiast
Brother, are u sugesting me to have local clone of (stoeger cougar8000) because i guess to think about the original seems to be a mockery with my capacity of purchasing. if yes then what about cf 98, wouldn't it be better than a local clone

Ameer
03-04-2012, 04:06 PM
if you can find a usd cf-98, that would be fine.

black arrow
03-04-2012, 04:27 PM
Dear gunenthusiast
Brother, are u sugesting me to have local clone of (stoeger cougar8000) because i guess to think about the original seems to be a mockery with my capacity of purchasing. if yes then what about cf 98, wouldn't it be better than a local clone
reading expert opinions elsewhere, i dont think clones would do you any good. better buy original and if in good condition, 2nd hand should also be ok.

black arrow
03-04-2012, 04:35 PM
also, a recent post also verifies:

http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?8587-Stoeger-Cougar-8000F

Before that i had a Beretta 92F local which stuck during firing of initial 5 rounds...

ddaniyal
03-04-2012, 11:39 PM
dear black arrow
thanks for your guidance

black arrow
04-04-2012, 09:51 AM
dear black arrow
thanks for your guidance
no problem- glad i was of any help...

ddaniyal
04-04-2012, 12:27 PM
can any one compare the CF 98 (9mm) vs zastava .30

gunenthusiast
04-04-2012, 12:28 PM
bro if your budget is a serious constraint than it is better to go for cf98 rather than a local clone

ddaniyal
04-04-2012, 12:32 PM
What is the price of zastava (.30) original, because the one i could find in the price list of pakguns it is about 28K: is it the price of a clone

black arrow
04-04-2012, 01:58 PM
What is the price of zastava (.30) original, because the one i could find in the price list of pakguns it is about 28K: is it the price of a clone
no thats not a clone, clone would cost you much less than 10k. not sure about (current) original zastava .30 bore's price though.

zastava has good grips, is all metal (the one i saw atleast), makes more sound, is over-penetrative.

cf98 has really comfortable grips, well balanced, polymer frame - and all 9mms are supposedly non-over-penetrative.

ddaniyal
04-04-2012, 02:18 PM
thanks black arrow, i guess i must have a check for zastava before going for cf98. Either i am interested in sound but the grip really matters.

black arrow
04-04-2012, 02:48 PM
thanks black arrow, i guess i must have a check for zastava before going for cf98. Either i am interested in sound but the grip really matters.
no prob, but i must mention grips of cf98 felt better to me. ofcourse what ever suits you better...

ddaniyal
04-04-2012, 02:50 PM
@ black arrow, you'r right man

ddaniyal
05-04-2012, 09:44 AM
Guys, i have called many of the dealers in Karachi for the price CF 98 and all of them figured it out around 42K to 45K but no one dealed in the used arms. so can u validate the price of the new one and suggest me some dealers who deal with the used ones. i may mention that i am interested in used CF 98.

Asif Ali
05-04-2012, 10:49 AM
Guys, i have called many of the dealers in Karachi for the price CF 98 and all of them figured it out around 42K to 45K but no one dealed in the used arms. so can u validate the price of the new one and suggest me some dealers who deal with the used ones. i may mention that i am interested in used CF 98.

Bro. normally used, good condition, average budget guns are sold hand to hand. Even some dealer sale them as NIB. So it would be very very hard to find used good condition CF-98 in the market. Also you are not very experienced person so there would be more chance of cheating in used gun. I would recommend to wait for a while and increase your budget to buy new CF-98.
As somewhere stated that barrel life of CF-98 is 3000, some say 7000-8000, you would not be able to assess how much rounds the used CF-98 have shot and what is remaining life. Go for NIB, you would have a piece of mind.:)

ddaniyal
05-04-2012, 11:14 AM
thanks Asif Ali, i guess i should wait for budget to increase or either go for a new zastava (.30). any way, thanks for elaborating the pros/ cons of the used guns.

Buri cheez
05-04-2012, 11:40 AM
Bro. normally used, good condition, average budget guns are sold hand to hand. Even some dealer sale them as NIB. So it would be very very hard to find used good condition CF-98 in the market. Also you are not very experienced person so there would be more chance of cheating in used gun. I would recommend to wait for a while and increase your budget to buy new CF-98.
As somewhere stated that barrel life of CF-98 is 3000, some say 7000-8000, you would not be able to assess how much rounds the used CF-98 have shot and what is remaining life. Go for NIB, you would have a piece of mind.:)

dear asif! i have a question, perhaps you or seniors could help.. im a newbee to guns.. recently bought my first gun, a canik 55, L-120(turkish version of cz75b), how much rounds will it last? any idea? anyone? and what after the life?? barrel cracks/break or what? and does the gun goes useless after that>? or can the barrel be replaced or repaired??

Buri cheez
05-04-2012, 11:55 AM
@ddaniyal.... sorry bhaiya... for hijacking your thread.. it was supposed to help you get your answers.. i didnt realize it untill just now... sorry will be careful in future.

Buri cheez
05-04-2012, 12:03 PM
infact i have posted my question in the right thread... http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?7117-New-to-PakGuns-Have-a-Question-Find-your-Answer-here-!

anyone care to answer, can reply me there.. thanks

Asif Ali
05-04-2012, 12:28 PM
dear asif! i have a question, perhaps you or seniors could help.. im a newbee to guns.. recently bought my first gun, a canik 55, L-120(turkish version of cz75b), how much rounds will it last? any idea? anyone? and what after the life?? barrel cracks/break or what? and does the gun goes useless after that>? or can the barrel be replaced or repaired??

Response to your post is in below link

http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?7117-New-to-PakGuns-Have-a-Question-Find-your-Answer-here-!&p=259245#post259245

ddaniyal
05-04-2012, 02:26 PM
@ Buri Cheez, doesn't matter: i dont bother such small creeps and thanks for your intension for helping me out. i a response i will hack your thread some day;)
just kidding.

Buri cheez
05-04-2012, 10:20 PM
@ Buri Cheez, doesn't matter: i dont bother such small creeps and thanks for your intension for helping me out. i a response i will hack your thread some day;)
just kidding.:) .. thanks buddy...

Khan381
05-04-2012, 11:59 PM
@ddaniyal.. just wait for few days the prices will come down of CF-98,

Khan381
06-04-2012, 12:00 AM
@ddaniyal... wait for few more days ,, hopefully prices will come down probably 5 to 10 k...

ddaniyal
06-04-2012, 08:28 AM
Thanks brother Khan381,
but may i ask u that on what basis you are anticipating.

ddaniyal
06-04-2012, 08:29 AM
Any way thanks for giving me the good new.

black arrow
06-04-2012, 09:38 AM
Thanks brother Khan381,
but may i ask u that on what basis you are anticipating.
maybe because of ban on new license.

qty demand vs suppy...

ddaniyal
06-04-2012, 10:25 AM
Dear black arrow,
as i have written on some other thread that the local ban of arm liecense will surely effect the local market but that would be form the profit index of the dealers how ever the prices are much more dependednt over the international arms prices and the value of rupee against US dollar.

black arrow
06-04-2012, 10:32 AM
Dear black arrow,
as i have written on some other thread that the local ban of arm liecense will surely effect the local market but that would be form the profit index of the dealers how ever the prices are much more dependednt over the international arms prices and the value of rupee against US dollar.
the 2nd factor is always there...

for the 1st factor, lets see. we'll learn from feedback of PG members.

ddaniyal
06-04-2012, 12:27 PM
you are right buddy, but i still stick with the opinion that the local demand doesn't effect the price of fuel and gold. i also confirm that i have also heard about the prices decline from a dealer but that is decause of the variation in internation market rather than the issue of banning new arms liecense in pakistan

Khan381
06-04-2012, 08:26 PM
Thanks brother Khan381,
but may i ask u that on what basis you are anticipating.
Just a friend of mine(dealer) told me that as soon as shipment gets clear prices will come down...

Khan381
06-04-2012, 08:28 PM
Dear black arrow,
as i have written on some other thread that the local ban of arm liecense will surely effect the local market but that would be form the profit index of the dealers how ever the prices are much more dependednt over the international arms prices and the value of rupee against US dollar.

Arms available with dealers were imported at time when dollar price was around 85. but still they charge us High

ddaniyal
07-04-2012, 12:42 AM
thanks khan381 for sharing the information with us