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Denovo87
02-01-2010, 02:10 PM
Dear fellas, want to share how PG made my day yesterday :) know what, brothers Hassanjamshad & Abbas found a PT145 for me hurrrrrah...so visited them on 1st day of new year and bagged PT145 Mil Pro, 24/7 OSS Tactical & about 20 Kgs of ammo :) also had a surprise meet with Skeeter60 at the shop, he was quite surprised how I recognised him :) YOU ARE A CELEBRITY sir jee .

Thank you Hasanjamshad; thanks you Abbas; for your hospitality & time you both spent buying the ammo & finding the guns.

Lets photos do the rest of talking.

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Naveed_pk
02-01-2010, 02:23 PM
Congratulations Denovo Sir...

MHMalik
02-01-2010, 02:33 PM
Excellent additions sir!

HammadArshad
02-01-2010, 02:35 PM
Wow! really a happy new year... congratulations!

Mig
02-01-2010, 03:10 PM
Congratulations.. Amazing. Zabardast.. Best of Luck. .

Sami
02-01-2010, 03:12 PM
A.S.A, true combination of hand guns. appreciate your photographic skills, showing features L.C.Indicater, hand grips and last two pics describes the complete ergonomics of the guns. Though its not the start of New Year for us but this date may surely will be in your memories for quite some time. Allah-Hafiz

Salahuddin Ayubi
02-01-2010, 04:02 PM
Beeeeeeeeeuuuuuuuty.

Denovo meray bhai, Buhat Buhat aur Buhat Mubarak ho. Hope I get to see this 145 during LHR visit.

Do post some reviews once you get to use it. Meanwhile, do apprise us of the costs of guns and ammo and where you bought it from.

Topak
02-01-2010, 04:10 PM
congrats Sir...
Mundia Sialkotia..... :D
will visit you some day for range test.
once again congrats ...

Denovo87
02-01-2010, 04:21 PM
Thanks Naveed, MHMalik, HammadArshad, Mig, Stigma & Salahudin.
SA, brother both are 55K each (I am sure it was my day yesterday), ammo can say all gift from Abbas & Hassanjamshad :)
regarding review, after thorough de-greasing n cleaning first thing in the morning tried 10 rounds each of them. Both worked flawlessly, in accuracy ofcourse 24/7 OSS is at its best (atleast for a NISHANA BAAZ like me). PT145 accuracy I can say is better than anyother compact (having 3.25" barrel) but nowhere close to OSS which is 5.25" barrel.
To my surprise PT145 never felt like I was using .45 its very gentle, I actually didnot notice any substential difference of kick among the both.
Secondly the double action in both is treat to operate, it was hardly any difference in operating them in single or double action, even with OSS I felt (I repeat I FELT, without challenging our Taurus bashers ;) ) double action more accurate then single, amazing; isnt it :)

Gunpsycho
02-01-2010, 04:36 PM
Sir Jee BOHAT BOHAT MUBARAK HUWE IS WARI MAI VE LOHORE TOUN PISTOL LEANA HAI HO BHI ABBAS TE HASSAN JAMSHEED DE NAAL :D=D BALAE BHAI BALAE

Denovo87
02-01-2010, 04:39 PM
Thanks, Topak brother for appreciation and ttttthhhhhhaaannnnkkssssss for that MUNDIA thing, really love that.

Gunpsycho thanks & JEE AYAN NOON BHAI JEE :)

Gunpsycho
02-01-2010, 04:50 PM
Sir jee can i know the ammo rates

Memon
02-01-2010, 04:50 PM
Great ........... congratulation.

Nice beauty.

Regards,

Mitho
02-01-2010, 04:51 PM
@denovo
congrats..
how much did u pay for these beauties?

Ali Akbar
02-01-2010, 05:00 PM
@denovo congrats for the new arsenels in ur already brilliant collection sir jee

Salahuddin Ayubi
02-01-2010, 05:05 PM
Sir jee can i know the ammo rates

Free GP, gift from brother Abbas and HassanJamshed. :)

Gunpsycho
02-01-2010, 05:09 PM
SA Bro yes that why my next purchase will b from Lahore:) i just wanted to know the rates

Gilani
02-01-2010, 05:13 PM
Wonderful guns Sir. OSS is a real beauty. Congrats. I may visit you and have a look at your wonderful collection when I come home (Sialkot) next time, if you dont mind. Could you email me your contact no at muhaider95@yahoo.com.

Denovo87
02-01-2010, 05:14 PM
Thanks Mitho & Ali Akbar... @Mitho; 55K each.
@gunpsycho, brother these are very expenssive in the market (just asked for .45 acp Armscor and was quoted Rs. 95 each), the ones I got are stolen from both my brothers stock (Abbas & Hassanjamshad) :) so had to left Lahore in the night, you know both have King Cobras :mad:

Gunpsycho
02-01-2010, 05:16 PM
Sir i only want to compare with the karachi market

Denovo87
02-01-2010, 05:18 PM
Thanks a lot Gilani brother, it really is nice to hear that you are from Sialkot, you are most welcome when ever you are on leave bro, email is on the way.

Gilani
02-01-2010, 05:24 PM
Thanks Sir.

Salahuddin Ayubi
02-01-2010, 05:31 PM
the ones I got are stolen from both my brothers stock (Abbas & Hassanjamshad) :) so had to left Lahore in the night, you know both have King Cobras :mad:

So I guess we'll be coming after you on a hunting excursion during the upcoming GTG.

Salahuddin Ayubi
02-01-2010, 05:34 PM
Thanks Naveed, MHMalik, HammadArshad, Mig, Stigma & Salahudin.
SA, brother both are 55K each (I am sure it was my day yesterday), ammo can say all gift from Abbas & Hassanjamshad :)
regarding review, after thorough de-greasing n cleaning first thing in the morning tried 10 rounds each of them. Both worked flawlessly, in accuracy ofcourse 24/7 OSS is at its best (atleast for a NISHANA BAAZ like me). PT145 accuracy I can say is better than anyother compact (having 3.25" barrel) but nowhere close to OSS which is 5.25" barrel.
To my surprise PT145 never felt like I was using .45 its very gentle, I actually didnot notice any substential difference of kick among the both.
Secondly the double action in both is treat to operate, it was hardly any difference in operating them in single or double action, even with OSS I felt (I repeat I FELT, without challenging our Taurus bashers ;) ) double action more accurate then single, amazing; isnt it :)

Bro, you have me seriously thinking about this piece. Would like to see and feel it during my visit to LHR, if possible. I think this might be very good for a CCW, which is the next thing on my purchase list --- a compact and effective CCW.

Denovo87
02-01-2010, 05:36 PM
the ones I got are stolen from both my brothers stock (Abbas & Hassanjamshad) :) so had to left Lahore in the night, you know both have King Cobras :mad:

So I guess we'll be coming after you on a hunting excursion during the upcoming GTG.

LOL :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sami
02-01-2010, 06:03 PM
A.S.A, @ DENOVO dear you are right about the accuracy of Double Action, Actually IMHO its a hand an Eye synchronization. Some feel comfortable with less & lighter pull of S.A some prefer substantial pull. Good to know that .45 has controllable recoil, well to me its not the feature of P.T, its THE CURIOUS CASE OF DANY DENOVO . The man behind the gun.
Now I wonder what will you call them, King and Queen of the house are already their.
I guess:Cruiser Companion, etc......
Allah-Hafiz

Denovo87
02-01-2010, 06:53 PM
A.S.A, @ DENOVO dear you are right about the accuracy of Double Action, Actually IMHO its a hand and Eye synchronization. Some feel comfortable with less & lighter pull of S.A some prefer substantial pull. Good to know that .45 has controllable recoil, well to me its not the feature of PT its CURIOUS CASE OF DANY DENOVO . The man behind the gun.

Now I wonder what will you call them, King and Queen of the house are already their.

I guess:Cruiser Companion, Car Master etc......
Allah-Hafiz

These are Queens obviously, you know King is from Khandan e Mughlia, so he can have as many Queens as he wish to ....

Abbas
02-01-2010, 09:31 PM
Salams,

It was great to see you again Denovo and you are most welcome anytime. The pictures are great but the guns are fabulous ! Wish you many years of shooting in peace and for sport.

P.s Your OSS is great, seems like a great shooting pistol. We need a complete and detail review of it.

Mitho
02-01-2010, 09:34 PM
@abbas
sir jee where's the review of ur zastava 999?are lahore ranges still closed?

Abbas
02-01-2010, 09:40 PM
@Mitho Wanted to take the CZ to the range today but almost all of my licenses are at MOI for ammo limit increase. Will do once they come back InshAllah.

Slayerjatt
02-01-2010, 11:05 PM
sir MASHAALLAH both of them are real beauties and many many congratulations but aap ney lahore aa ker aik call bhi nahi kee. i had invited you to a dinner/lunch way back. :(

Rotorcrafts
02-01-2010, 11:08 PM
What a way to start the new year, :D Congratulations Denovo Sahib.

Dr Zakir
02-01-2010, 11:11 PM
Congratulations denovo . Went to buksh ellahi and saw pt 145 today , was planning to inform u but Abbas tolde of your exploits . Well done keep it up.

Conceal Carry
02-01-2010, 11:22 PM
Congratulations Bro. it's quite compact for CC. How does it shoot, how's the recoil, do post a range report. and I like the frame color on your tactical 9, it's dessert sand right?

Ilyas
03-01-2010, 12:11 AM
Congrats Bro! this is the way to start the new year in "Denovo Style" :) MashaAllah both the guns are really very nice...specially loved the OSS. Plz try to share your expeirence with us after firing ammo of different brands.

Bullseye
03-01-2010, 01:52 AM
Bohat Bohat Mubarak ho. Taurus Rules. Next stop .45ACP for me a too.

Sensei
03-01-2010, 02:29 AM
Masha Allah Denovo brother both guns are extremely beautiful
what a stylish new year beginning for you many many hearty
congratulations to you for your DHANSOO purchase this is so
refreshing indeed to see these beauties :cool:

SAJJAD ALI
03-01-2010, 02:32 AM
congrates bro such nice and beautiful handguns you have.

Bilz111
03-01-2010, 08:11 AM
Congrats Denovo br0

9mm Luger
03-01-2010, 08:26 AM
congrats sir real beauties you have got MASHALLAH!!

HasanJamshad
03-01-2010, 09:16 AM
@Denovo brother, great purchases. I really enjoyed your lively company. Year 2010 has started in a big way for me as on 1st i met you and on 2nd Abbas took me to meet Mr Moeen, Dr Zakir and Glockohlic who were visiting Lahore. Meeting PG friends is such a pleasure. Time really flys away.
Abbas has really done a remarkable job by creating such a nice forum where one can find so many nice people.

Dr Hanif Malik
03-01-2010, 10:31 AM
@denovo,sir your choice/slection is so good,only can pray for you to safe and accurate shooting:)

Denovo87
03-01-2010, 10:56 AM
Abbas, Slayerjatt, Rotorcrafts, Dr Zakir, Conceal Carry, Ilyas, Bullseye, Sensei, SAJJAD ALI, Bilz111, 9mm Luger, HasanJamshad, Dr Hanif Malik brothers thanks for kind words.

I definately will be posting the range review on OSS, 1st 10 rounds (chines 311) I checked with it went off flawlessly, accuracy is excellent. Pt145 although is big .45acp but the recoil was surprise as it was hardly any difference in OSS & PT145, muzzle climb/flip was bit sharp than OSS (9mm) but not that much as I was anticipating, you can say well controlable.

@SJ, I really am sorry for not reporting my Lahore visit to you..

@Conceal Carry, yes OSS is in Dessert Tan.

Slayerjatt
03-01-2010, 04:01 PM
sir sorry nahi you'll be fined for this. :) and MASHAALLAH i just can't get my eyes off this oss. it's simply awesome. many congratulations again.

uzair859
03-01-2010, 08:33 PM
nice guns DENVO specially the off white one luks stuning

Manj
03-01-2010, 10:35 PM
what a great start of the year bro, congratulations. happy shooting:)

Abu Al Hawl
03-01-2010, 10:42 PM
Den bro, we've both been so lucky on the very 1st day of the year, Oh! Congrats Paajee

Yardie Jutt
03-01-2010, 11:31 PM
congratulations denovo sb :)
MASHALLAH new CC weapon for you sir with one tactical, great cmbination :)

AK47
03-01-2010, 11:44 PM
@Den.........Absolutely fabulous, bro! Many congrats, I like your "go for it" spirit, you hecked care for anything said, wanted it, and got it, that's it! Great! Damn, you make me forget the repeater for now!

Anyhow, I'll bag it, inshallah, sooner or later, first the repeater, coz, living in a restricted and high security area of P.O.F, just can't move around with my "widow" that causes too much of unnecessary attention, so need something on the front-seat, that these security guyz would be less "inquisitive" about, what they can say about a "12 gauge", no matter how dangerous in looks I'll ensure it finally get's "decorated"!

I really appreciate both your gunz,, think you wanted to complete and close the "Taurus chapter" once and for all, in bagging both these beauties together. Beautiful!

I must say there's something "charismatic" about the "Karishma", and as for the "Mussarat shaheen", well, you now got something of both classes to "play" around with, according to the "mood"! ;)

They look good, was just thinking, with respect to "add on's" as per my formula, a tactical light would suit the 24/7 more, a simple and short laser for the PT 145. The shorter one, PT 145, perhaps, would look awkward with a tactical light/laser combo, if you've any of these accessories, do post some pics, would really like to see them "decorated"!

Finally, 10 shots each, perhaps just a "tastemaker", let's see a few "footballs" of yours pierced through with both, especially with the .45! And let's have a review with 50 shots each at least!

Oh yeah, forgot to say, plz post ammo prices, especially of the .45, and next time you get something new, ensure the "title" of your thread is a bit more "eye-catching", I totally missed your beauties due to this, so sorry for some belated congrats!

Perhaps a title like "My Night with Karishma and Shaeen", would have caught my attention a bit earlier! :lol: Happy shooting!

Anthrax
04-01-2010, 04:10 AM
Amazing weapons, amazing ammo and of course amazing photography! Denovo saab, aap cha gaye hein! Buhat buhat mubarik ho :)

haiderkn
04-01-2010, 09:01 AM
Congratulations and best of luck.....

khakiMB
04-01-2010, 10:01 AM
Congratulations. It is wonderful to get exactly what one is looking for the feeling is amazing.

Sohail
04-01-2010, 10:55 AM
kia baat hay bahiee denovo, the first one is bubbly :)

Salahuddin Ayubi
04-01-2010, 10:57 AM
Perhaps a title like "My Night with Karishma and Shaeen", would have caught my attention a bit earlier! :lol: Happy shooting!

:lol:

LionHeart
04-01-2010, 11:08 AM
@Denovo Brother,

Many congrats for your new additions, nice selection indeed and good photography. Thanks for Sharing good photos

Best of Luck and Safe Happy Shooting

regards,

M.HAMZA
05-01-2010, 01:37 PM
AOA,

Dear Denovo Sahib,
Wow, what a new year start for you. Congratulations...
Wish you happy shooting year in and year out

Wasalaam,

M.HAMZA

Denovo87
05-01-2010, 06:42 PM
SJ thanks bro, no problem I am ready for fine & hopefully I know the nature of the fine ;)
Thanks brothers, uzair859, Manj, Abu Al Hawl, Yardie Jutt, AK47, Anthrax, haiderkn, khakiMB, Sohail, LionHeart, M.HAMZA for congrats & liking what I added to my collection.

AK bro, thanks for your comments and yes got both Mussarat & Karishma in one single go, amazing isn’t it? One for summer n other for the winter, leaving which is which for you to guess.

Malik1
05-01-2010, 08:45 PM
Congrats bro Denovo. May your complete year be full of pleasant surprises like this

Denovo87
05-01-2010, 09:03 PM
Thanks Malik bro for congrats & wishses.

MUSTANIR
05-01-2010, 09:15 PM
Sir ,, happi new year,,, may this year more hapiness to n your family

Denovo87
05-01-2010, 10:31 PM
Thanks Mustanir brother for kind wishes.
@ahmed498, for me its not an issue as I got mine before any bad news :)

Denovo87
07-01-2010, 06:48 PM
Fired both yesterday, they behaved exactly what they are made for.

Taurus 24/7 OSS Tactical 9MM ……Used 45 rounds of Chinese 311 type bullets + 10 Armscor JHP’s without problem or failure of any kind. Accuracy is far better than what I am capable of. Also fired half a dozen Chinese rounds with Glock 17 to compare the accuracy, rate of fire, recoil etc, recoil is lot better than Glock 17, rate of fire is about the same, Glock performed quite better in accuracy department reason to my opinion are the sights, glock is equipped quite nice, accurate, easy to adjust & easy to aim sights where as OSS has three dot Novak which are not very easy to aim/get used with. So new sights for OSS are on the buy list.

Taurus PT145 Mil. Pro .45 ACP…. Fired just 20 rounds (armscore 230 gr FMJ’s) no problem at all, 20 rounds were shared among three of shooter and all of them were quite surprised with the low recoil this gun have. Accuracy is above average for a 3.25” barrel compact pistol, in simple words you cannot miss a BG’s upper torso up to 25 mtrs for sure.

Magazine springs of both of the pistols are very hard, although PT145 got loosened a bit to take 10 rounds (maximum capacity) with less effort after keeping them full for 48 hours but OSS mags are still stiff and inserting 16th round is very difficult. These are so stiff that one of the shooters got both of his thumbs injured (with quite deep cuts) while trying his army skills to fill the mags to their fullest capacity. Funny part is “both thumbs” when I asked how did he manage to have the left thumb cut while being right handed he was pushing rounds with his right hand but he had no bloody idea himself :)

Dr Hanif Malik
07-01-2010, 07:15 PM
@denovo sahab,great share with us but sympathy also for partners:)

Zubair
08-01-2010, 11:37 AM
Very nice purchase DENOVO & would have loved to meet you in LAHORE. So please keep this in mind when you are here again. I also saw the 24/7 OSS at BUKHSH ELAHI last month and simple loved it. Congatulations again!!!

Aamar
08-01-2010, 01:43 PM
I like the 24/7 OSS Tactical , that is one serious looking piece of hardware, congrats :D

Denovo87
08-01-2010, 10:26 PM
Thanks Zubair & Aamar.
@Zubair sorry for not being able to see all the PG friends I wanted to as had to leave for home early due to fog, will see you Inshallah on GTG.

KageFox
08-01-2010, 10:34 PM
Congrats on the wonderful additions! The OSS is particular looks awesome, and I believe it shoots that way as well. Just a little bit of side info, the Taurus 24/7 OSS (in .45) was submitted to JCP, a US army program to replace the Beretta M9 (program was scrapped due to reasons known only to the US military).

Usama
08-01-2010, 10:46 PM
Asalam O Alikum ..
Congrats Denvo Bro..Nice addition ...

Topak
21-01-2010, 03:14 PM
i have checked both pieces of Denovo,
PT145 is mean looking thing though its small, but when you looks in its barrel its scary thing. :o
24/7 tactical is very good built pistol its accurate,well balanced and handy pistol.
trigger pull is just MAKHAN MALAEE
i shot three fire,one of them hit the target.... :cool:
it is in my next shopping list.

MIdreesTaj
07-02-2010, 06:21 PM
Denovo Brother I have to ask you a few things about your OSS DS 9mm, Please spare some time to inspect your semi-auto and cover all points that I have asked you.

1- How is it you generally feel about your OSS after firing xx number of rounds?
2- Did any thing let loose itself on the pistol? e.g Sights, safety, Cocked striker (red) indicator??
3- The "Tannifer" black finish as called by Taurus (Actually Tenifer in glock regime), any scracthes, wear, noticeable difference?
4- Trigger feel, i know its different than glock and alikes, any adverse change in the trigger behaviour after xx rounds u fired? Does it feel everytime the same when you sqeeze it?
5- Barrel, did you inspect your barrel recently? any rust spots? anything regarding degradation of polished smoothness of bore, Breech block outer finish? any scratches on breech block after firing and numerous time cycling? How about feed ramp? polished or not?
6- Feed reliability, ejection and extraction reliability? Extractor pin, does it show any wear or loosening in spring that keeps it in place?
7- The last, magazines, lip lossening or deformation? Did you ever try to slowly retract slide and let it move to lock up while still holding it with racking hand so that movement is slowed down, and see visually how rounds strip off your magazine and climb the feed ramp to enter chamber? if not please do it, and tell me how reliably it strips and feeds ammo.

Brother I can wait, but when you are done with all these points do write up a report for all of us. This pistol is of my interest and you are a hope who can give first hand info about it.

Regards,
Idrees

Denovo87
07-02-2010, 07:26 PM
MIdreestaj bro, although I am not very good at expressing my experience, feeling or observations with minor details like yourself but will try to answer all your queries,

1- How is it you generally feel about your OSS after firing xx number of rounds?

Crossed 300 rounds now, general feeling is I got something pleasure to shoot with, no malfunction of any kind. Used it with POF, Chinese, Philippine FMJ & JHP’s , Sellier & Bellot, without a hitch.

2- Did any thing let loose itself on the pistol? e.g Sights, safety, Cocked striker (red) indicator??
Everything is on its place and working 100% without being loose or changing its original fitting/fix.

3- The "Tannifer" black finish as called by Taurus (Actually Tenifer in glock regime), any scracthes, wear, noticeable difference?

No noticible difference but there are small scratches on the upper corner of the slide, definitely caused by mishandling, these scratches reveal shiny metal.

4- Trigger feel, i know its different than glock and alikes, any adverse change in the trigger behaviour after xx rounds u fired? Does it feel everytime the same when you sqeeze it?

Honestly did not notice any difference in trigger behavior or pull, it feels same after 300 rounds as it was on 1st. No doubt there is quite difference in SA vs. DA but nothing changed after these many rounds (as far as I can feel).

5- Barrel, did you inspect your barrel recently? any rust spots? anything regarding degradation of polished smoothness of bore, Breech block outer finish? any scratches on breech block after firing and numerous time cycling? How about feed ramp? polished or not?

Barrel is spotless, as shiny as it was very first day I looked in, breech block is also of the same finish & shine, no scratches at all. Feed ramp is specially polished with mirror finish and is same although I use copper brush for cleaning but that finish still standing scratch less.

6- Feed reliability, ejection and extraction reliability? Extractor pin, does it show any wear or loosening in spring that keeps it in place?

Again no to all your above concerns, as I wrote above everything fed to it went all the way to the chamber & off the barrel without any obstruction.

7- The last, magazines, lip lossening or deformation? Did you ever try to slowly retract slide and let it move to lock up while still holding it with racking hand so that movement is slowed down, and see visually how rounds strip off your magazine and climb the feed ramp to enter chamber? if not please do it, and tell me how reliably it strips and feeds ammo.
Since the mag springs were very hard so I still am keeping both mags filled to fullest capacity (17) but mag lips are fine and feeding is smooth. Round strips very clean and enters the chamber without a micro mm wobble, thanks to mirror polished feed ramp.
Tried chambering the round as you said but did not notice anything out of timing or balance.

MIdreesTaj
07-02-2010, 07:54 PM
@Denovo87 bro, I appreciate your quick response. All I have to say is Zabbardast. What you mentioned above will be considered as testament in favor of this Taurus item. I am in love with OSS since summers 2009 and thinking seriously about it.

I thank you again for such a nice and detailed response by you. I loved reading it word by word ;)

Much Regards

Denovo87
07-02-2010, 08:01 PM
You are mlost welcome midreetaj bro, I really am in love with my OSS, best of luck for yours :)

AK47
07-02-2010, 09:05 PM
Ha ha ha ha, Den, Midestraaj bro really pressing you out hard bro, now repeat it all for me and "Karishma", for Malik1 Sb and the .357 Magnum of yours, then we'll see if need other items as well! :lol:

Anyhow, very nice and detailed replies, think we should reconsider your title to that of "Official Pakguns Reviewer"! @Midestraaj bro, after these replies, that OSS should be bagged soon, bro! Good luck.

Denovo87
07-02-2010, 09:42 PM
:lol: :lol: AK bro give a day's rest ;) yesterday it was .357 on Malik bro's FARMAISH, today its OSS. Will take on Karishma tommorow ;)

By the way one thing I missed from OSS, that is the loose fitting of slide to frame, slide feels tad rattling. I am not sure whether its the design charactersitic or something lacking :/

AK47
07-02-2010, 10:17 PM
Den bro, this is heck the best thing about your reviews, the GENUINE impression, the core truth! You "feel" there's a thing to be vigilant about, with the slide and frame of the OSS, and you care to mention it instantly! Regardless of the fact that it's a newly acquired item of your own! Nice! There may, most likely, be nothing in the issue at all, yet even your "doubt" is out there for us! I really appreciate it bro, that's how a genuine review and opinion is supposed to be conveyed. Thanks, and by the way, sleep well, you can't afford another sleepless night nor more valiums, both your guns are fine! I just feel, we both share a common nature in being overly "suspicious" about our possessions!

MIdreesTaj
07-02-2010, 11:30 PM
@AK you are right.. Denovo brother is so honest about what he just felt could be a problem with the pistol that he coudnt keep it...and told us over the forum I appreciate .. thanks Denovo

Good news is that, I really dont know whether it is a design characteristic on OSS pistol incorporating loose slide to frame fit, which in case is done to have higher tolerence in a field weapon(Beretta M9 is one such prime example) But I do know for sure that over the internet I found only 1 example of a 24/7 pistol have loose slide to frame fit. It was some 24/7 Pro Compact and none in the case of OSS. I on other hand numerous example of loose slide/frame fit in case of Springfield XD, G21, G30 G17, Sig 226 228 and 229 with ratteling slide traits...
So I think denovo shouldnt be worried at all :) as all above pistols are well known in field/combat accuracy department(not match accuracy).

MIdreesTaj
07-02-2010, 11:42 PM
For Match-grade accuracy.. loose slide to frame fit is a big NO NO.. so are the other tolerances tailored down to minimum incase of a competition gun. Custom 1911s are examples. So in my checklist I add to verify the slide/frame fit too.. Good point ;)

Denovo87
07-02-2010, 11:57 PM
To my opinion OSS being the feild tactical weapon has a bit of tolerance in slide to frame fit, in competition guns no doubt its unacceptable but in field accuracy can be compromised but not the reliability. A tight fit has more tendency to get jammed than the loose fit and with bit of slide rattle you are compromising only 5% of the accuracy but having 25% more reliability :)

MIdreesTaj
08-02-2010, 09:44 PM
@Denovo, I agree and I am sure accuracy loss we might expect from a little higher tolerance gun can bother a match shooter as a matter of fact, but not a combat pistol operator. It is actually the lower tolerance gun that would bother him more.
But as a personal prefernece note, I'd like to see a slide to frame fitting as tight as possible. Just a matter of aesthetics. I am sure one such tight fit OSS is out there in the market. ;)