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Abbas
07-12-2009, 12:24 PM
@Ak47 Of course there is, I have a Taurus Millennium for 2/3 years in .45 acp that I carry. I love it, very compact and very reliable.

AK47
07-12-2009, 12:29 PM
Thanks Abbas, i was discussing this with Denovo yesterday on a separate thread, and it's nice to hear you've good words for this Taurus. Would you plz mind giving a bit of deeper insight into this wonder, especially with regards to reliability? You know for the more senior members around here, there is still this "Taurus phobia", hanging around, in view of the "occasional" mishaps of the 2-4-7 series. Now this one is also NOT A CLONE, but an individual design by Taurus, so would like your closer review of it, if possible. Thanks.

Salahuddin Ayubi
07-12-2009, 12:44 PM
@ AK47
Here's some detail about the Millenium .45
http://hunting.about.com/library/weekly/aasttauruspt145.htm

@ Abbas, what's the market price of this piece?

Abbas
07-12-2009, 02:58 PM
Salams, I'm surprised we do not already have a thread for this model. Took some pictures in a hurry for you guys. It costs around 60 K.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/145A.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/145B.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/145c.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/145D.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/145e.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/145f.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/145g.jpg

Abbas
07-12-2009, 03:00 PM
The last two pictures are for size comparisons with the two more popular 24/7 in 9mm and the PT 92/99.

Salahuddin Ayubi
07-12-2009, 03:01 PM
I think this is going to be my next procurement. Seems like a 'compact' yet 'effective' CCW.

Thanks for sharing Abbas.

Abbas
07-12-2009, 03:05 PM
You're welcome.

10 shots of .45 in a pistol smaller than the Walther PPK. Henie sights, rails, external safety, chamber loaded indicator and even a key lock. What more could one want. Also weighs lighter than the Walther even when loaded with 8 .45 rounds !

Salahuddin Ayubi
07-12-2009, 03:09 PM
Superb.

Moreover, I read that you do not have to chamber the first round and it comes in DA only.

I wonder why this never came up when I opened a thread inviting discussion on CCW.

Anyways........Dair aiyay durust aiyay.

Denovo87
07-12-2009, 05:27 PM
You made my day Abbas, was looking this same Milinum Pro 3rd gen. can you please check one peice for me with PARA? I have one MOI vacant waiting for this beauty....

KageFox
07-12-2009, 05:30 PM
Moreover, I read that you do not have to chamber the first round and it comes in DA only.

The DA-only part I understand... am a little confused about the "...chamber the first..."

Bilz111
07-12-2009, 05:42 PM
@ Abbas bhi wat is the diff between Taurus pt609 titanium pistol & PT 145 pro??
The reason is that my cousin bought it couple of months back and wen ever tries to fire full mag.it jams..

BERETTA M9 9mm
07-12-2009, 05:48 PM
Nice pics........................Abbas Bhai

Denovo87
07-12-2009, 06:12 PM
Moreover, I read that you do not have to chamber the first round and it comes in DA only.

The DA-only part I understand... am a little confused about the "...chamber the first..."

I think SA wanted to reffer the double strike capability and wanted to write " you dont have to rack the slide if round doesnot go off with first strike".

KageFox
07-12-2009, 06:38 PM
PT609Ti is 9mm, and I assume, has a slightly longer grip than the PT145 (whose 9mm version, incidentally, is the PT111). The PT609Ti also has a titanium slide for lighter weight.

According to my experience, the PT609 is prone to misfire with POF ammo, but works okay with Chinese ball and Serbian HPs.

@Denovo87: Thanks... though the usefulness of this feature is a major question mark...

Yoosha
07-12-2009, 07:44 PM
Seems very nice, and ideal for CC...
but Does it not malfunction like the 24/7, considering the non existant external hammer?

Sherwan_88
07-12-2009, 08:54 PM
I have a Taurus 609 Pro, its the same thing but the caliber is 9mm. Good weapon. Nice concealment and small. Has no problems, but i don't think my opinion counts here.


http://s3.postimage.org/1WBb09.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1WBb09)

Denovo87
07-12-2009, 09:27 PM
@Sherwan_88, why do you think your opinion doesnt count? for me it has, if there were any doubt these are gone after reading your opinion, will be buying pt145 as soon as I find one :)

Slayerjatt
07-12-2009, 11:50 PM
smaller and lighter than walther ppk? :o damn i have to get this one.

Abbas
08-12-2009, 01:23 AM
I'm glad you all like it, I'm surprised I forgot to post pictures and do a review of this piece. So far I have fired over 200 + rounds though it without a single misfire or jam. It is quite reliable.

Although it is slightly different beast when compared to the 9mm 24/7 it will fire all day long because the .45 ammo that you'll be using is all imported. Most 24/7 problems were with local and Chinese ammo.

Initially I was expecting a bit of a kick because of the small size and light weight but it does handle recoil well for such a compact pistol firing a large caliber.

As soon as a the range mess is sorted out I'll post some charts and perhaps a video but don't hold your breath that might take a while as the Cz 999 is still lying unfired and quite sad :(

@Slayer I held both in one hand each today morning and was surprised myself, the Walther is a little longer and it's steel frame makes it heavier. This loaded with 8 rounds of .45 ACP is lighter than the Walther loaded with 8 rounds of .32 ! And without magazines there is no comparison.

I must mention that Hollow points were not particularly successful with this pistol although to be fair I just tried one brand of Russian Hp's that I could find.

Anthrax
08-12-2009, 01:29 AM
Very nice piece, Chief. Saw a guy buying this edition at Chaudary Arms two weeks back. He paid about 53 for it. The asking price was 58k.

It was in Black and was a 9mm.

Slayerjatt
08-12-2009, 01:29 AM
as soon as the range mess is sorted out, i'll make sure i fire every weapon in your inventory chief. ;) and your comparison has atleast temporarily shaken my interest in walther ppk. :)

Sherwan_88
08-12-2009, 02:22 AM
@Sherwan_88, why do you think your opinion doesnt count? for me it has, if there were any doubt these are gone after reading your opinion, will be buying pt145 as soon as I find one :)

I mean to say in this case... because its already been discussed and concluded as a good weapon.
You thought i was getting all sentimental? :lol: :P

Salahuddin Ayubi
08-12-2009, 05:45 AM
@Sherwan_88, why do you think your opinion doesnt count? for me it has, if there were any doubt these are gone after reading your opinion, will be buying pt145 as soon as I find one :)

I mean to say in this case... because its already been discussed and concluded as a good weapon.
You thought i was getting all sentimental? :lol: :P

Yeah bro. We have a permenant ban here on getting sentimental. :)

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@ KageFox, yes bro, as Denovo explained, I was referring to racking the slide thingiee.

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@ Anthrax, 53k is a very good price for this piece. Now lemme check my budget for 2009-10 and let's see how I can fit this in. ;)

AK47
08-12-2009, 09:32 PM
Thanks Abbas for obliging to my request and I look forward to your range review of this potent little wonder. Denovo said you saved his day, well, let it be said, you saved mine too! Not because I didn't know of the PT145, but I honestly never gave it any serious consideration whatsoever before your post in it's favor landed here! Guess the frequent misadventures of members having the 2-4-7 knocked Taurus totally out of my mind. And now there is a headache! Denovo what pills are you using so far, suggest me something until I get my hands on this shooty! Just gotta have one more MOI through, and think I should start hammering the nail in my closet for hanging this beauty soon. Thanks Abbas, and let's see you in action with this as soon as the ranges open. Btw, are hollow points in this caliber that rare, since you had to use some russian ones? Regards.

Salahuddin Ayubi
08-12-2009, 09:45 PM
Just gotta have one more MOI through, and think I should start hammering the nail in my closet for hanging this beauty soon.

Well your 'one more' MOI's here, so what's the plan?

AK47
08-12-2009, 10:48 PM
SA.......You really know how to catch friends one-legged! Anyhow bro, I gotta be true now, the one I received news of today, actually is being issued for another of our esteemed PG brothers. Just a friendly favor. The one I received in birthday gift, as you may remember, is strictly reserved for a shotgun. The PT 145 will be entered, Inshallah, on one of those 3 I stoved up today, two for friends, one for myself. That's the rough plan!

salmanjin
09-12-2009, 05:39 PM
wats the price man and hte weight of the tarus .45?

wasifali89
09-12-2009, 09:14 PM
one question plxx


what is the price of the ammunition of this weapon ?
i mean the .45s

how much do these bullets cost ?

AK47
09-12-2009, 09:31 PM
Wasifalli bro.........Prices of this caliber vary greatly because of instable market supply, being one of the more lower demanded ammo. According to Abbas, he recently purchased at the rate of I think 75 per round. I remember one guy even asked me for a 100 per round once. Hollow-points anywhere between 200-300 pr. round. For people with this caliber handgun, I'd always suggest to take a large lot of ammo, from anywhere possible, whenever possible. If I personally take this gun, I'll ensure to have in my stock at least 500 rounds, always.

Maximus
09-12-2009, 10:46 PM
.45 rounds are insanely expensive now.they go upto 150rs.

another vid i viewed on youtube...
why would anyone engage the safety like that? it seems so odd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnzBhMWuWJw

Slayerjatt
09-12-2009, 11:18 PM
the gun is quite accurate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSgAqaXmZy4&feature=related

Yardie Jutt
10-12-2009, 12:10 AM
the gun is quite accurate:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSgAqaXmZy4&feature=related



it is indeed :D.....nice share for the aspirants :)

Taurus
10-12-2009, 01:04 AM
i would just say one thing .45 ACP weapons are best in 1911 designs and are more accurate and are having nice trigger pull in 1911...i never drove PT 145 so cant give any idea but in 9 mm its felt recoil is too much