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Trainingday
29-01-2014, 07:06 PM
Attached are the hunting pics of birds shot by Gamo shadow 1000 crap) and normal cheap pellets.The pics represent hunt on 2 different days

shahroze
29-01-2014, 07:36 PM
nice whats the bluish bird in the first and second pic
and which area ?

Khilji
29-01-2014, 09:50 PM
that one is haram

shajee
30-01-2014, 07:30 PM
AOA
Training day, is my brother we usually hunt together with airgun
when we were in Nawab shah we used to call this big bird with blue feathers
as, wild chicken, because when it flies when frightened it make noises exactly
like home chicken.It mostly walk near dense bushes and sugarcane crops,flies
very little.They are very rare,flesh is very tasty.And there is nothing haram about it.
Never jump to the conclusions.Knowledge is like ocean.
I suspect that they are very last of there kind
And I hope pakguns bros will find its real name
wassalam

Asif Jhammat
30-01-2014, 10:11 PM
bluish and brown bird is haraam

Trainingday
31-01-2014, 06:03 AM
Those members who considers the bluish bird to be Haraam may kindly enlighten us with the name of the bird so that we can also search for it on the net and if they have an authentic reason or fitwa for it then plz also let us know.

Trainingday
31-01-2014, 06:45 PM
All airguns owners are cordially invited to post their hunt pics in this thread thanx

Asif Jhammat
31-01-2014, 09:37 PM
dont know its name in urdu...only i know its name in SARAIKI...

Trainingday
02-02-2014, 03:19 PM
These are pictures of today's hunt

Haider Shah
02-02-2014, 04:10 PM
Well Shajee, as you have advised viewers for not jumping to the conclusion but surprisingly have consumed the bird forthwith without finding out details about its consumability or even its name, means any unknown creature which flies or run should either considered to be eatable or at least to be shooted down?
The big bird in question beside stork ( bagla ) is commonly called "Kamadi Kukar" as its favourite habitat is mostly found near water source and crops of sugar cane , a slow flying bird which eats reptiles especially rats etc carries a typical pungent smell due to which people mostly avoid its hunt as it is also considered farmer friendly bird . You are into bird shooting affairs so it is expected that you will also purchase relevant book having details about birds or will seek good knowledge on net. Its better to eat good quality wild birds to avoid incurable diseases.
The Fatwa myth declaring bird halal or haram reminds me of a joke where a crow took a piece of bread & flew away to a near by tree, the sacred soul ordered him to return it otherwise threatened his community of issuing a halal fatwa. Already a thread exists about birds to be eaten & other wise qualifying the merits. i think its good to have debate amongst elders what to eat & why to eat once many creatures have certain obvious features resembling those mostly not consumed by the majority, regards

shahroze
02-02-2014, 07:45 PM
and you shoot a ( hoodhood) the brown bird with the crown that's what i call it. But
WHY

Trainingday
02-02-2014, 08:05 PM
I think shajee is worthy aware of the kind of bird coz he has already done a literal translation of the local name in english. Regarding it being haram or halal I consider that the local ulema should be consulted but it is considered halal here in KP. One simply cannot reach a judgement based on eating habits coz I have seen chicken eating lizards and small frogs.

I will be highly appreciated that this thread is about hunting pics and any haram or halaal discussion should be done in the relevant thread or local ulema should be consulted thanks

shajee
03-02-2014, 02:15 PM
AOA.
Bro Haider has put some comments about the hunting of Trainingday but not solved the problem
of naming that big bird.Instead he has raised some more questions about the other halal hunted birds.
Haider criticised about hunting a bird without first knowing its name, so bro I can send u lots of pics of
halal land and water birds which u cannot name.2nd Haider said something about stork, Bagla, as having
foul smelling flesh and its food is frog and reptiles.so many times I have eaten the flesh of ducks
hunted by my father, and its flesh was foul smelling like drain water, and people must have seen home chikens
eating lizards,frogs and human stools, and pet ducks sucking drain water for food and
swallowing frogs and there larva. Then Haider said somthing about freindly birds,so what about the
home chicken,ducks,pigeons and rabbits,dont u slaughter them in need.Most of the birds home and wild friendly
depending on human behavior towards them
Then bro said about getting diseases
from halal hunted birds, so it is a big topic but process of getting disease from animals and birds is called
ZOONOSIS.A lot of halal animal and birds are involved in it like home chickens, geese,rabbits,goats,fish and
sheep etc.Now u can understand who need books to read about halal and haram birds and there behavior,
there breeding nesting times. Birds are not halal and haram by ur above irrelavent reasons,personal knowledge,
personal observation or u have heard some layman or assumptions and speculations are made.These are halal
and haram because ISLAM has specified them.U need to find the help of a Muftee alim in ur area.
By the way name of that big bird is CROW PHEASANT.
Bro Shahroze has asked about HUDHUD, it is called HOOPOE and it is halal.And Stork, Bagla, is also halal
In the last I will say to the Trainigday Bravo! Bravo! for giving us entertainment.
Well I am giving some Emails of well known Madrassas. u can ask them wat u want to
CHEERS!! BROS WASSALAM

shajee
03-02-2014, 02:36 PM
please note the email addresses of different well known Madrassas and Muftees
for consultations
1. darulifta@gmail.com (darulifta@gmail.com) jamia binoria
2.fatwa@adjd.gov.ae (fatwa@adjd.gov.ae) UAE
3. mufti@daruliftaa.net (mufti@daruliftaa.net) darul ifta mehmodya
4. muftionline@jamiaashrafia.org (muftionline@jamiaashrafia.org) jamia ashrafia lahore
5. daruliftadarululoom@gmail.com (daruliftadarululoom@gmail.com) darul uloom karachi

shahroze
03-02-2014, 04:18 PM
Sir, even if the Hoopoe is halal, refrain your self from hunting it as it already is less in number and they look pretty.
waiting for your next hunt pics

Bullseye
03-02-2014, 05:30 PM
AOA
Training day, is my brother we usually hunt together with airgun
when we were in Nawab shah we used to call this big bird with blue feathers
as, wild chicken, because when it flies when frightened it make noises exactly
like home chicken.It mostly walk near dense bushes and sugarcane crops,flies
very little.They are very rare,flesh is very tasty.And there is nothing haram about it.
Never jump to the conclusions.Knowledge is like ocean.
I suspect that they are very last of there kind
And I hope pakguns bros will find its real name
wassalam

As you have said it yourself, they are the last of their kind. That should be enough reason of NOT hunting it. Halal or Haram, the more learned will reply to that.

Topak
03-02-2014, 05:44 PM
good hunting Bro.
the bird in question is not endanger specie , they are in plenty in sugercane cultivation areas of Punjab.
well there are different opinion on this bird.
those who think its halal call it Kamadi Kuker (sugarcane chicken)
and those who think its haram call it Kamadi Kawa (sugarcane Crow)
but one thing is sure, it smells very bad.i hunted it once but never tried it again.
any how you have good day.

Haider Shah
03-02-2014, 09:37 PM
They are very rare,flesh is very tasty

And I hope pakguns bros will find its real name

By the way name of that big bird is CROW PHEASANT.


Oopps, but thanks


Its a knowledge to find out that bird from Crow family is halal & is tasty indeed, well have consulted a book " Birds of the Indian Subcontinent" 1995 Revised Edition, page # 65,which name it as CROW-PHEASANT or COUCAL, Centropus sinensis and its food basically contains insects, lizards, frogs, eggs, chicks of other birds & small snakes, rats etc. I think its good source to find out essential details about any bird rather relying on others to have fatwa about kawa family, regards

Mian Jee
03-02-2014, 10:43 PM
AOA
Training day, is my brother we usually hunt together with airgun
when we were in Nawab shah we used to call this big bird with blue feathers
as, wild chicken, because when it flies when frightened it make noises exactly
like home chicken.It mostly walk near dense bushes and sugarcane crops,flies
very little.They are very rare,flesh is very tasty.And there is nothing haram about it.
Never jump to the conclusions.Knowledge is like ocean.
I suspect that they are very last of there kind
And I hope pakguns bros will find its real name
wassalam

And that's the whole point, If it tastes good, there is nothing to worry about. :p

Keep it up bro, i'm with you, shoot anything which comes in front of your gun. :first:

shajee
04-02-2014, 02:43 PM
AOA, Great bro Haider after knowing the name of the bird, it was easy for u to find the details in the wikiepedia,but still u have problem with name of the bird. you havent check the details, it is not in the crow family. For ur information Even in the crow family some birds are halal like ROOK biird and MAGPIE. Calling halal birds haram is not a good habbit. And bro Mian Jee its naturally tasty when halal. Because as Muslims our mind produce this good taste while eating some thing halal, but if u have already considered it haram so in what ever great way it is cooked u will feel awsome about it. Before pointing my gun towards a bird the 1st thing which comes to my mind is halal or haram. waiting for ur airgun hunting pics and ur airgun pics CHEERS!! BROTHERS WASSALAM

yasiralikhan
04-02-2014, 03:00 PM
and what about hoodhood

Mian Jee
05-02-2014, 01:22 AM
and what about hoodhood

I guess you need to ask him about it's taste first.

yasiralikhan
05-02-2014, 04:07 PM
no offence, may be, never hunted it, i mostly avoid to hunt these type of birds

shajee
06-02-2014, 09:07 PM
AOA
Refering to the last post of Mian jee.
Well Mian jee why dont u tell bro Yasiralikhan that what ARE........ YOU tasting nowdays. I mean the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Dont be afraid I am with u. JUst say what ever jumps in to ur mind or ur mind tells u. why dont u invite ur other freinds to ur this party of taste. Hey just do one thing never think before u leap. And still waiting for ur pics of big bags full of hunted birds.
Regards!! Wassalam

Mian Jee
07-02-2014, 01:48 AM
Hunting is a sport and has it's rules & ethics, without that it's simple poaching.

I usually don't hunt, but when i do, i have my preferences set for it.

I stick to Partridges & Quails only, and within the limits, i wont shoot just anything which comes in my sight, which i won't be eating or don't even know it's name.

And pictures of big bags full of hunted birds doesn't make a hunter.

shajee
07-02-2014, 09:35 AM
AOA
And what is the taste of partridge and quail. And dont worry I can wait for another only five years for ur pics, untill ur next universal famous hunt.
cheers!! wassalam

Leon
07-02-2014, 10:10 AM
AOA
And what is the taste of partridge and quail. And dont worry I can wait for another only five years for ur pics, untill ur next universal famous hunt.
cheers!! wassalam

Can't Agree More!

ajmal virk
07-02-2014, 10:29 AM
nice hunting but few of the birds look "disputed to eat":twitch:

shajee
07-02-2014, 04:04 PM
AOA.
Here is an authentic Fatwa from DEOBAND about HALAL and HARAM animals and birds

(Fatwa: 1336/1336/M=1431)
It is haram to eat all those animals who prey with their canine tooth or birds who prey with their claw and nail or those, which are among the species of insects.
و لا يحل ذو ناب يصيد بنابه فخرج نحوا البعير أو مخلب يصيد بمخلبه أى ظفره فخرج نحو الحمامة من سبع الخ (درمختار)
Study the bird and see whether these rules, are applicable to it or not. Thus, you can know the rulings of halal and haram. Or enquire to the local Ulama regarding it.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband

PREDATOR
09-02-2014, 08:32 PM
SALAM!! to all the brothers. I have heard bros that I will get facts here not fluffs,thats why I am here.
regards!

PREDATOR
11-02-2014, 04:47 PM
and what about hoodhood

HUdhud is halal and its the national bird of ISRAEL. On which side you are. I have got lock on the Hudhud, waiting ur order. should I stand down or execute.

shahroze
11-02-2014, 05:46 PM
Bravo one this is Alpha 7
Stand down
I repeat stand down.
Its too beautiful to be shot.
Stand down or the air support will be called back and you will be revoked of your duties

Leon
11-02-2014, 06:18 PM
Bravo one this is Alpha 7
Stand down
I repeat stand down.
Its too beautiful to be shot.
Stand down or the air support will be called back and you will be revoked of your duties

ha ha ha! Very Good Answer!

shajee
11-02-2014, 08:00 PM
AOA
Bros starlings has started reducing in numbers in our area. when there migration starts.

PREDATOR
11-02-2014, 08:32 PM
Bravo one this is Alpha 7
Stand down
I repeat stand down.
Its too beautiful to be shot.
Stand down or the air support will be called back and you will be revoked of your duties

Its ur call so Sir! I am standing down. There has been lot of firing around so please don,t fire me
PREDATOR out!

PREDATOR
11-02-2014, 08:52 PM
ha ha ha! Very Good Answer!

And what are you laughing about. You are amazingly living safe among the guns of PAKGUNS.Leon and Guns are enemies of each other. when they meet in the field one will die.so u can be a potential target. Stay low!!

PREDATOR
11-02-2014, 08:56 PM
that one is haram

And Sir! the one besides you with a gun is also haram

yasiralikhan
11-02-2014, 09:27 PM
may be, as i just hunt game birds, not every bird which come in front of my gun

Leon
11-02-2014, 10:14 PM
And what are you laughing about. You are amazingly living safe among the guns of PAKGUNS.Leon and Guns are enemies of each other. when they meet in the field one will die.so u can be a potential target. Stay low!!

Ha ha ha! This is how I live!

shahroze
12-02-2014, 07:31 AM
Its ur call so Sir! I am standing down. There has been lot of firing around so please don,t fire me
PREDATOR out!

Bravo one fallback to nearest safe point
friendlies have entered the war zone, don't give away your position.
The supreme member Leon will escort you out.
till then stay low
Alpha 7 out

PREDATOR
12-02-2014, 11:45 AM
Bravo one fallback to nearest safe point
friendlies have entered the war zone, don't give away your position.
The supreme member Leon will escort you out.
till then stay low
Alpha 7 out

Copy that sir!!
Trying to reach the near Rundavoo point. OVER!!

PREDATOR
12-02-2014, 11:57 AM
Ha ha ha! This is how I live!

you are surrounded by 10,000 species of birds. And only few of them are freindly and beautiful. so as supreme member get going an do some job or find ur self real job. REGARDS!!

Trainingday
14-02-2014, 09:57 AM
Ok guys here goes the pics for last Tuesday's hunt. Was a bit busy in official business to post these earlier.2868228683

PREDATOR
14-02-2014, 11:28 AM
nice hunting bro trainingday. U got starling too. coz most of them have gone

Trainingday
22-02-2014, 03:37 PM
Today's hunting pics

Masroor
23-02-2014, 09:20 PM
Nice Share dear

shajee
25-02-2014, 06:07 PM
Below are todays hunting pics with single BT65 Elite,two shooters and distance between 20-60m and pellets gamo promagnum. This time 7 starlings, 6 lapwings,3 pigeons and one stork.And few were lost in the crops.

PREDATOR
25-02-2014, 08:22 PM
Great shajee u have again done good score in the last few days. you can call it a day.

shajee
26-02-2014, 05:49 AM
Nice Share dear

thanks bro

Trainingday
26-02-2014, 09:08 AM
Nice hunt bro.keep it going.

shajee
27-02-2014, 05:51 PM
Below are todays airgun hunting pic with single BT65 Elite, two shooters me and Trainingday, same distance between 20-60m and gamo pellets at pressure between 70-140 bar. this time 8 pigeons, 1 Rook bird, 1 water fowl and 1 lapwing and as usual 3-4 were lost in the crops. you can see that this baby can do some damage.

saqlainr12
27-02-2014, 06:05 PM
Below are todays airgun hunting pic with single BT65 Elite, two shooters me and Trainingday, same distance between 20-60m and gamo pellets at pressure between 70-140 bar. this time 8 pigeons, 1 Rook bird, 1 water fowl and 1 lapwing and as usual 3-4 were lost in the crops. you can see that this baby can do some damage.
Did u eat Rook bird and lapwing?

shajee
27-02-2014, 07:18 PM
Did u eat Rook bird and lapwing?

Thanks for appearing sir and turning off invisble mode. They are todays hunt, and yes we are going to. sir they are halal and not bad but frankly speaking I dont like the sound of them. This was our 1st and last hunt of these two birds. regards!!

shajee
14-03-2014, 05:47 AM
Brothers I asked an ALIM about saying "BISMILLAH ALLAH O AKBAR" during hunting. He said that it is better to say it on every shot but if some time you forget it then the bird or animal will still be halal. But make it habbit to say it. As you know bros that oftenly when we reach our hunt after shooting it is dead. Regards!!

shajee
18-03-2014, 08:16 PM
Bros as hunting season is off so my seven years old son has started playing with Hatsan BT65 Elite pcp

hsnmz
19-03-2014, 09:09 AM
Brothers I asked an ALIM about saying "BISMILLAH ALLAH O AKBAR" during hunting. He said that it is better to say it on every shot but if some time you forget it then the bird or animal will still be halal. But make it habbit to say it. As you know bros that oftenly when we reach our hunt after shooting it is dead. Regards!!

yes all hunters must develope this habbit of reciting it on every shot. I recite it while leaving for a hunt and also pray to ALLAH swt to please forgive me if I forget to recite it before a shot. and sometimes I do forget it while shooting. You all must be aware of ti but still as a reminder, please remember if a bird is dead you are still required to do zibbah.

Hammad jutt
19-03-2014, 11:30 AM
Below are todays hunting pics with single BT65 Elite,two shooters and distance between 20-60m and pellets gamo promagnum. This time 7 starlings, 6 lapwings,3 pigeons and one stork.And few were lost in the crops.

shajee what is this with long legs?

shajee
19-03-2014, 06:42 PM
@hsmnz
Thanks bro for reminding, I forgot to mention that. One has to do Zibbah the prey even if it is dead

shajee
19-03-2014, 06:45 PM
shajee what is this with long legs?

you mean with long yellow legs. Thats red wattled lapwing

shajee
19-03-2014, 06:47 PM
shajee what is this with long legs?

You mean with yellow long legs. thats red wattled lapwing

mughal1977
19-03-2014, 09:31 PM
aslamo alikum sha ji .we are calling this yellow legs TATYOLI(IN PUNJABI)but here most people not shoot it.

shajee
20-03-2014, 01:54 PM
aslamo alikum sha ji .we are calling this yellow legs TATYOLI(IN PUNJABI)but here most people not shoot it.

Right bro. In pushto it is called " TETAREE OR TETARA". Actually we also dont hunt it oftenly, but I bought new Hatsan bt65 elite pcp 5 days befor below few hunts, and I was looking for far target means 40-60m. These Lapwings are very clever and you cant get closer than that. Any how bro there flesh is just like pigeons except for long legs and wings and they are very noisy. In our area local people say that there is hole in their throats and they are crying for rain

Rana22
20-03-2014, 03:14 PM
brother where from u purchase hatsan and plz share cost??????????????????

shajee
20-03-2014, 06:01 PM
brother where from u purchase hatsan and plz share cost??????????????????

AOA, welcome to pakguns:welcome:. I bought it from Hira arms Lahore for 70K

Rana22
20-03-2014, 06:14 PM
AOA, welcome to pakguns:welcome:. I bought it from Hira arms Lahore for 70K

thanks shajee you fill it with hill pump?

hsnmz
20-03-2014, 07:23 PM
I have never hunted these Tatere are you sure these are halal

shajee
20-03-2014, 07:49 PM
I have never hunted these Tatere are you sure these are halal

Yes bro I am 100% sure that it is halal. 1st rule of hunting as muslim is that you should know about halal and haram, 2nd is about law of the country whether it allows the hunt of that animal, like in Keneya I think hunting a bird is crime, 3rd is there nesting and breeding season and etc. Bro as I told you that it is just like pigeons

Hammad jutt
20-03-2014, 10:41 PM
I have never hunted these Tatere are you sure these are halal

IT is doutful bird i think many hunters ignore it which thing not sure i think he is not suitable for hunting in our areas not saw any body hunt Tatere and i am personaly not satisfied it is halal and sorry to shajee.

hsnmz
21-03-2014, 11:14 AM
yes Hammad bro, I am also doubtful about this bird. I have not seen any hunter hunting these. one of the rules to differentiate between halal and haram is that any bird that uses its feet to hold the food it's eating is considered haram. Like parrots, crows and many others. Now Lapwings (Tatere) as per my observation does not use its feet while feeding so IMO it should be halal.

shahroze
21-03-2014, 11:22 AM
Rabbits too hold food in feet to eat ?
I just can get the point how does the feet thing and some say the birds which don't flap in flight, glide are haram whats the logic in that ?

hsnmz
21-03-2014, 11:45 AM
please read again the post above, its specific for birds but as I have observed Rabbits dont use their feet for eating like squirrels do

shahroze
21-03-2014, 11:56 AM
hmmm, then i must have seen that in movies. Well what out the gliding thing ?

Hammad jutt
21-03-2014, 12:19 PM
brother tatere is very common bird in the fields of punjab if i am not wrong he stay in fields or one place very long time like bagla if any body not disturb him he is very matching with (bagla) family if tatere is halal then bagla also halal.very simple way to decide halal or haram when u hunt a doutful bird in srrounding peoples eyes question marks and when u hunt a halal bird in srrounding peoples eyes appriciate for u.

hsnmz
21-03-2014, 01:09 PM
hmmm, then i must have seen that in movies. Well what out the gliding thing ?

I am not sure about it but all the carnivorous (flesh-eating) birds, which are haram, glide without flapping. whereas the halal birds including long flying birds like ducks, geese etc. fly for very long distances and flap their wings all the time. so I think it must be true.
This flesh eating thing actually makes me wonder about lawpings and cranes being halal as they eat frogs and other small invertebrates

shajee
21-03-2014, 01:23 PM
AOA Bros, thanks for ur valuable discussion

Here is an authentic Fatwa from DEOBAND about HALAL and HARAM animals and birds

(Fatwa: 1336/1336/M=1431)
It is haram to eat all those animals who prey with their canine tooth or birds who prey with their claw and nail or those, which are among the species of insects.
و لا يحل ذو ناب يصيد بنابه فخرج نحوا البعير أو مخلب يصيد بمخلبه أى ظفره فخرج نحو الحمامة من سبع الخ (درمختار)
Study the bird and see whether these rules, are applicable to it or not. Thus, you can know the rulings of halal and haram. Or enquire to the local Ulama regarding it.
Allah (Subhana Wa Ta'ala) knows Best
Darul Ifta,
Darul Uloom Deoband

Hey bros predatory birds are haram. mean those who hunt their prey with their claws like eagles and falcons and not just hold their food in their claws like parrots. I have been lving in different parts of pakistan and their are lot of our brothers who consider rabbits haram. can you imagine this!

PREDATOR
22-03-2014, 06:22 PM
There are many halal birds which people dont like to hunt or eat. But it doesnt make them haram like myna, bulbul, hudhud,stork,sparrows, rook bird and parrot etc. I my self dont like to hunt them, its my personal idea, but they are halal. and halal means that you can hunt them and eat them. regards!!

yasiralikhan
22-03-2014, 09:21 PM
agree in this matter with prediator

Matapatapa
18-04-2014, 04:22 PM
@Trainingday
by conincidence i also happen to own a shadow 1000
can you share with me which scope you use
what grip/postion you use for shooting
the pellets you use
and also what accuracy you get,
and how far out you can land a kill shot
also how to get close to the birds (whenever i try they just fly away before getting into my 15m kill range)

@shajee
can you give me some info on your gun? price, how you fill it up, scope
and rest of the Qs same as the ones for Trainingday

shajee
30-04-2014, 12:58 PM
@Matapatapa
AOA Bro.Gammo shadow 1000 is effective upto 40 meters and most of the hunting u will do between 15- 25 meter.I use different pellets, but mostly I have set it with cheaper darabola pellets that is 100rs for hundred pellet, plastic tins with green covering. but I place every pellet on the floor upside down and give them slight tap with a light hammer so they fit a little tightly and their accuracy also improves. you can also use gammo pellets .In this way it gives us 60-70% accuracy. scope is also cheaper upto 2.5k. I have hunted pigeons, starlings,storks,crow pheasants, lapwings, bank myna and water hen with it.

We have bought BT65 elite from HIRA arms Lahore for 70k with pump.Its powerful pcp and very effective but is a bit heavy and finding jsb pellets 18grn for it in Pakistan is difficult. CHEERS!!

Masroor
30-04-2014, 03:44 PM
There are many halal birds which people dont like to hunt or eat. But it doesnt make them haram like myna, bulbul, hudhud,stork,sparrows, rook bird and parrot etc. I my self dont like to hunt them, its my personal idea, but they are halal. and halal means that you can hunt them and eat them. regards!!

Agree With you Dear.

Hammad jutt
30-04-2014, 08:30 PM
@Matapatapa
AOA Bro.Gammo shadow 1000 is effective upto 40 meters and most of the hunting u will do between 15- 25 meter.I use different pellets, but mostly I have set it with cheaper darabola pellets that is 100rs for hundred pellet, plastic tins with green covering. but I place every pellet on the floor upside down and give them slight tap with a light hammer so they fit a little tightly and their accuracy also improves. you can also use gammo pellets .In this way it gives us 60-70% accuracy. scope is also cheaper upto 2.5k. I have hunted pigeons, starlings,storks,crow pheasants, lapwings, bank myna and water hen with it.

We have bought BT65 elite from HIRA arms Lahore for 70k with pump.Its powerful pcp and very effective but is a bit heavy and finding jsb pellets 18grn for it in Pakistan is difficult. CHEERS!!

:welcome: after many many absents shajee

Ali 123
25-07-2014, 04:12 AM
31618

Took this shot from 60-70 foot from my Gamo shadow 1000 without scope. it was sitting on a high street light.

Khilji
25-07-2014, 12:07 PM
when and where did u shoot it ?

Ameer
25-07-2014, 01:10 PM
Its SHIKRAA, right! I wouldn't have shot it if i were you.

seeker
25-07-2014, 02:21 PM
@ ALI 123,,,do not shoot birds u dont eat ,specially Kites and volturs caz they create a balance by keeping a check on pests ,, if u wanna shoot some thing shoot pests ,, and do not ever again post such pics here ,,,,,, its illegal to shoot birds of pray ,, if it was a civilized country ,u had been arrested by now.and most of all our religion also forbids it very strictly , owning a gun is not about true aim ,it only about control on ur emotions and ego,, I hope u r from a muslim family and u will act on the teachings of our religion . if u cant find pests near u, u can always try to shoot match sticks ,the practice they will give u shall be matchless :)

seeker
25-07-2014, 02:23 PM
@ moderators please remove the pic of dead kite , its killing me from inside :( :( thanks

Surg.Ray
25-07-2014, 02:34 PM
I would have the mods remove almost all hunting pics in this forum!! Poor, poor birds.

Birdshooter007
25-07-2014, 07:55 PM
I would have the mods remove almost all hunting pics in this forum!! Poor, poor birds.
Why not stop visiting the hunting section?

seeker
25-07-2014, 10:46 PM
Why not stop visiting the hunting section?

bro hunting is a totally different thing ,this is blood lust .not hunting .. I my self am a hunter ,from fish to murghabi ,we leave nothing during hunting season. but with in limits according to rules and law . hope i cleared some things . Remember we do not own world ,we had borrowed it from our children . we need to be sensible if there is to be a future for our kids .

FA226
26-07-2014, 12:45 AM
guys we should not be making a big fuss about it.the most precious thing in this world is human life.we should think about the suffering of other humans and try to help people in need.and try not harm other people with our tongue and our hands.in west they make a big fuss about killing some animals and some are declared as pests.like in UK pigeons and rabbits are killed in name of pest control.like their are lot of animal rights organization i only have one disagreement with them why don,t they work for human first,humans are suffering help them first.

Surg.Ray
26-07-2014, 01:11 AM
Why not stop visiting the hunting section?

Strange attitude!

I have hunted and hunted and still hunt. But have never displayed them as trophies... poor taste!

Birdshooter007
26-07-2014, 01:12 AM
bro hunting is a totally different thing ,this is blood lust .not hunting .. I my self am a hunter ,from fish to murghabi ,we leave nothing during hunting season. but with in limits according to rules and law . hope i cleared some things . Remember we do not own world ,we had borrowed it from our children . we need to be sensible if there is to be a future for our kids .
Totally agree.

My post was aimed at another member who was up for removal of ALL hunting pics altogether, it seems.
Even if OP shot this bird considering it a pest, I'm afraid such pictures shouldn't be posted on the forum.

@Surg.Ray
No harm in trophy hunting, freedom of opinion. Its a

Ali 123
26-07-2014, 05:01 AM
when and where did u shoot it ?
From my terrace