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bilz
27-09-2013, 04:46 PM
Addition to my collection Glock 30SF...
Sorry for the crappy pics

ACHILLES
27-09-2013, 08:21 PM
mubarak nice gun bro.

pakistanitoup
27-09-2013, 09:02 PM
congrats bilz !
your trigger discipline is bad

Laino
27-09-2013, 09:03 PM
Lovely handgun, congrats

bilz
27-09-2013, 09:49 PM
Ty achilles,laino...
@pakistanitoup bro ty..as for the trigger these pics were taken as I opened the box..and gun was checked as well....

Ameer
27-09-2013, 10:07 PM
congratulations for the beauty.

Soldier
27-09-2013, 10:09 PM
Congratulations Bro on ur purchase. :)
Plz share price and place of purchase.
Happy & Safe Shooting.

bilz
27-09-2013, 11:03 PM
Ty soldier...bought it from Al Harris for 340k

muhammad furqan
27-09-2013, 11:08 PM
niceeeeeeee guns brother itnyy mayy daraa saa 1 ****ainerr ajyyy :P

B-King
28-09-2013, 12:02 AM
@ bilz Congrats bro on ur purchase and feel sorry for that big hole in ur pocket :) happy shooting it bro!!

s.cheema
28-09-2013, 12:26 AM
congrats on the glock

paki.gunner
28-09-2013, 12:43 AM
nice gun bro. congrats

Addition to my collection Glock 30SF...
Sorry for the crappy pics

Dr Zakir
28-09-2013, 12:57 AM
Congratulations

bilz
28-09-2013, 01:29 AM
Ty brothers!

Fudgepacker
28-09-2013, 03:26 AM
your trigger discipline is bad


..as for the trigger these pics were taken as I opened the box..and gun was checked as well....
Regardless, if you're a serious gun enthusiast, it should be natural for your default grip position to have finger outside the trigger guard. Otherwise nice gun! Why the SF though, don't you find the 30S to be way more comfortable and easier to conceal?

pakistanitoup
28-09-2013, 12:08 PM
Ty achilles,laino...
@pakistanitoup bro ty..as for the trigger these pics were taken as I opened the box..and gun was checked as well....

this is not a good answer Bro.

kindly read this so you can work on it and avoid killing your self or people near you.


Basic Rules of Safe Gun Handling

All guns are always loaded.
Never point a gun at anything you are unwilling to destroy.
Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
Know your target.
Keep your gun at the minimum level of readiness.


http://www.bullseyepistol.com/safety.htm

dear you need a crash course in Firearm safety.

bilz
28-09-2013, 12:58 PM
Hmm.. got it!

Aquarius
28-09-2013, 03:05 PM
Congrats on your nice acquisition bilz bro.

Aquarius
28-09-2013, 03:06 PM
How much do you paid for it bilz bro ??

bilz
28-09-2013, 05:21 PM
@Aquarius bro ty! Bought it for 340k

380ACP
28-09-2013, 06:59 PM
bilz congrats on a wonderful weapon, Aquarius bro are you considering glock 21 or glock 22 ? Because your collection have many 45 but no 40 s&w ?

Aquarius
28-09-2013, 08:45 PM
bilz congrats on a wonderful weapon, Aquarius bro are you considering glock 21 or glock 22 ? Because your collection have many 45 but no 40 s&w ?
Bro I am not considering any .40 S&W caliber, because Ammo availability will be a problem in future, as you know with the slight shortage of .45ACP rounds in the market, its price raised to 90/pop, therefore I am considering calibers whose Ammo are easily available anywhere.

Aquarius
28-09-2013, 08:48 PM
This time I am considering something else, but lets wait for a month or so Inshallah.

380ACP
29-09-2013, 12:08 AM
Aquarius bro correct me if i am wrong i think you are considering hk ?

bilz
29-09-2013, 12:43 AM
@Aquarius bro ty! Bought it for 340k


Bro I am not considering any .40 S&W caliber, because Ammo availability will be a problem in future, as you know with the slight shortage of .45ACP rounds in the market, its price raised to 90/pop, therefore I am considering calibers whose Ammo are easily available anywhere.

I got .45acp for 105/pop

380ACP
29-09-2013, 04:18 AM
Aquarius brother i think ammo for 40 s&w will be available in future as you know few years ago 45acp ammo was very hard to find but when new manufacturers came to pakistan with budget guns like cz,stoeger taurus etc dealers started importing its ammo same is the case with 40 s&w now its getting established in pakistan so ammo will be imported in future, in case of shortage a s&b 9mm which is available for 50/pop can rise up go 70, so in case of ban or something else ammo of 45 if rises up to 90 is justified just like 9mm,

Fudgepacker
30-09-2013, 08:09 AM
CZ's are considered budget guns?!

Enigmatic Desires
30-09-2013, 02:47 PM
CZ's are considered budget guns?!

Compared to Glocks, Sigs and H&K yes.

Aquarius
30-09-2013, 02:58 PM
Aquarius bro correct me if i am wrong i think you are considering hk ?
No 380ACP bro its something else.. can't disclose it rite now until I play with it Inshallah.

380ACP
30-09-2013, 03:07 PM
ok Aquarius brother but its a handgun right ? Notna shotgun or rifle ? Just curious hehe

380ACP
30-09-2013, 03:12 PM
Fudgepacker cz handguns are not expensive in pakistan like glocks, sigs, h&k and few other brands,

Aquarius
30-09-2013, 03:24 PM
CZ are not expensive and are sold at fair price in our Country.. this should also be the case with other so called high end guns like Glock, HK, Sig etc etc, becoz I don't find CZ inferior to these other mentioned guns.

Soomro
30-09-2013, 04:45 PM
Congratulations ! for acquiring such a nice gun dear.

Aquarius
30-09-2013, 04:52 PM
@Aquarius bro ty! Bought it for 340k
Really.. is it NIB ?? becoz I was quoted used for 330K & that too was regular frame model not the SF.

bilz
01-10-2013, 12:42 PM
Yup 340 for the 3rd gen...I think there is one more available at kartus in khi asking 350k but not sure if its SF....

bilz
01-10-2013, 12:43 PM
Ty Soomro bro.....

Aquarius
01-10-2013, 05:43 PM
@bilz: bro one question.. is your Glock30 (SF) Austrian made or Smyrna, USA ??

Skeeter60
02-10-2013, 12:28 PM
CZ's are considered budget guns?!

The CZs are more expansive and sought after by people who shoot on ranges. For carry and police or army duty the Glock is superior as it is nearly as good as a CZ but much lighter to carry all day 7 days a week, for years. I am sure some people do not need telling but those brothers who carry guns in brief cases and car dash boards will not appreciate this.

Fudgepacker
02-10-2013, 01:28 PM
I'm just talking about cost. It's funny hearing CZs being referred to as budget guns. Hearing that term i think of, what is known in America, as "Saturday night specials". Brands such as Bersa, Phoenix Arms, and HiPoint, among others can be considered such since they retail for as little as $100-200. In PK, I would have thought the DAK guns would be considered your Saturday night specials, hardly a CZ.

Enigmatic Desires
02-10-2013, 01:43 PM
I'm just talking about cost. It's funny hearing CZs being referred to as budget guns. Hearing that term i think of, what is known in America, as "Saturday night specials". Brands such as Bersa, Phoenix Arms, and HiPoint, among others can be considered such since they retail for as little as $100-200. In PK, I would have thought the DAK guns would be considered your Saturday night specials, hardly a CZ.

Only if compared to the Glock and H&K and others of their ilk.

In Karachi the CZ shadow is still around $1300 or so

Fudgepacker
04-10-2013, 11:09 AM
$1300 is still fair, CZ just like your HK's (which I think are overpriced everywhere) seem to be about double their cost in the west, which is steep but still within reason due to market conditions.

Safdar Mahmood Khan
10-10-2013, 09:12 AM
Congrats on the new baby.If the Glock was for 340K then im wondering what the usp45 will cost these days.

Dr Zakir
10-10-2013, 09:21 AM
Around 450 k

doc pistol
13-10-2013, 01:30 PM
Congrats on the new baby.If the Glock was for 340K then im wondering what the usp45 will cost these days.
ill check th price in Lahore also.

bilz
13-10-2013, 09:10 PM
Yup 450k in Karachi.....

bilz
13-10-2013, 09:44 PM
A more detailed pic of G30....

zia raza
20-08-2014, 10:59 PM
Whats the current status of glock 30, what about it price and avalibility..??? What about its performance,??

zia raza
22-08-2014, 12:53 AM
Can anyone provide latest information on glock 30... Need some first hand performance report directly from owners...

Fudgepacker
22-08-2014, 01:23 AM
What would you like to know? I find it too fat (noticeably wider than a 26) and heavy (especialy with a full mag) for a pocket pistol. It shoots like a Glock, and feels like a small G21.

zia raza
22-08-2014, 01:34 AM
What would you like to know? I find it too fat (noticeably wider than a 26) and heavy (especialy with a full mag) for a pocket pistol. It shoots like a Glock, and feels like a small G21.
Thanx for providing information...

Bro what about recoil, is it manageable, as because of shortened grip, the hand grip might not be that firm required for big bore...
what about accuracy?
about performance?
durability, ( as glock has a 9mm design, can it bare big bore pressure)
and lastly what is the information hidden in serial number prefix? What about decoding it?

Fudgepacker
22-08-2014, 02:35 AM
Thanx for providing information...

Bro what about recoil, is it manageable, as because of shortened grip, the hand grip might not be that firm required for big bore...
what about accuracy?
about performance?
durability, ( as glock has a 9mm design, can it bare big bore pressure)
and lastly what is the information hidden in serial number prefix? What about decoding it?
Recoil is manageable, it's not that different than a 9mm.
Accuracywise, it's all in the shooter. I can't do it but I've seen people hit targets out to 100m with baby Glocks. However with a pocket pistol, the main concern is accuracy within 10m, which the G30 is more than capable of in the hands of an average shooter.
Durability and reliability is all standard Glock. And don't worry about "big bore", 45ACP is actually a very low pressure round, it's just fat. FYI, I have a G20 (10mm) that shoots ammo capable of taking down black bears, even moose (can weigh upto 1000lbs). I've never done it, but I know a lot of people in Alaska who carry the G20 with really hot ammo for protection against large animals.
Lastly, I never bother to look into serial numbers, prefixes or what the dot and pentagon stands for, but there are lots of websites that can help you with that.

zia raza
22-08-2014, 09:58 AM
Recoil is manageable, it's not that different than a 9mm.
Accuracywise, it's all in the shooter. I can't do it but I've seen people hit targets out to 100m with baby Glocks. However with a pocket pistol, the main concern is accuracy within 10m, which the G30 is more than capable of in the hands of an average shooter.
Durability and reliability is all standard Glock. And don't worry about "big bore", 45ACP is actually a very low pressure round, it's just fat. FYI, I have a G20 (10mm) that shoots ammo capable of taking down black bears, even moose (can weigh upto 1000lbs). I've never done it, but I know a lot of people in Alaska who carry the G20 with really hot ammo for protection against large animals.
Lastly, I never bother to look into serial numbers, prefixes or what the dot and pentagon stands for, but there are lots of websites that can help you with that.

Thankx bro,

Fudgepacker
22-08-2014, 10:01 AM
Of course. Do you plan to get one soon?

zia raza
22-08-2014, 10:04 AM
Of course. Do you plan to get one soon?

yup going to get one in couple of days... I was trying to find glock 30s or sf version but again its not available...

Fudgepacker
22-08-2014, 10:16 AM
That's too bad, I really like the SF frames. So you're going with the regular frame gen 3 G30?

zia raza
22-08-2014, 06:09 PM
That's too bad, I really like the SF frames. So you're going with the regular frame gen 3 G30?
Yes, as i am left with no other option in .45

watanyaar
22-08-2014, 10:06 PM
The best pistol for SD.
9mm.or 30 bore.or 40 b0re.or 45 bore or 50
.and accuracy .and distance wise.
Please shere .

Fudgepacker
23-08-2014, 05:04 AM
Yes, as i am left with no other option in .45
That's fine too, I have no doubt you'll love it! Congrats and can't wait to see it!!

Aquarius
23-08-2014, 05:36 AM
@zia raza

Congrats on your nice purchase bro.. plz post some eye candies.

zia raza
23-08-2014, 10:27 AM
@zia raza

Congrats on your nice purchase bro.. plz post some eye candies.

Bro didn't bought it yet but was planing to get one... Inshallah will finalise the deal on monday...

Aquarius
23-08-2014, 01:18 PM
Bro didn't bought it yet but was planing to get one... Inshallah will finalise the deal on monday...
Fine !!! and don't worry if you couldn't get hold of SF, because the standard version is a bit bulky but quite manageable for carry as well.

zia raza
23-08-2014, 06:47 PM
Fine !!! and don't worry if you couldn't get hold of SF, because the standard version is a bit bulky but quite manageable for carry as well.

Who cares about concealability as i dont carry... And i wish that i will never need to carry one..

Aquarius
24-08-2014, 06:30 PM
Who cares about concealability as i dont carry... And i wish that i will never need to carry one..

If you don't need to carry then for which purpose you want to buy it ??

zia raza
24-08-2014, 11:21 PM
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If you don't need to carry then for which purpose you want to buy it ??

Bro in karachi the law & order situation is not that good.. And if ranger stops u at snap checking, even if u have complete documentation and 144 permit, they will confiscate the weapon on basis of license verification... So to avoid hassle i dont carry now a days... And dont know why rangers have so much love for glocks, that they dont let them go easily...
since alhamadolillah i dont have any life threats so why to carry tention and extra weight with u...
but definitely practising at range once a wek.

Fudgepacker
24-08-2014, 11:37 PM
I see, if you don't plan on carrying it then don't worry about not having the "S". Although the standard grip on the 45's are slightly large for my tastes, it's not a deal breaker. I also find small guns quite fun just to shoot at the range!

hmd
25-08-2014, 12:35 AM
Bro in karachi the law & order situation is not that good.. And if ranger stops u a snap checking, even if u have complete documentation and 144 permit, they will confiscate the weapon on basis of license verification... So to avoid hassle i dont carry now a days... And dont know why rangers have so much love for glocks, that the dont let them go easily...
since alhamadolillah i dont have any life threats so why to carry tention and extra weight with u...
but definitely practing at range once a wek.
This is such a pain seriously bro when I CC I am more concern about Lea then the BG . It's is such a waste of time and headache and that also having all the paper work .

Aquarius
25-08-2014, 01:02 AM
So you don't carry now a days.

zia raza
25-08-2014, 01:17 AM
So you don't carry now a days.
bro impo its better to give BG's 20k mobile plus 20k cash rather giving 300k weapon to LEA (rangers)...
Now a days i am waiting for chamber of comm. letter and market association letter stating ntn and business requirement to allow carry... But guess what was reply from rangers HQ, "plz define the selected jurisdictions for mr xyz to carry weapon for business purpose" lolz after this reply i was so much pissed off that i preffer to be robbed by BG's rather than LEA

Fudgepacker
25-08-2014, 01:27 AM
bro impo its better to give BG's 20k mobile plus 20k cash rather giving 300k weapon to LEA (rangers)...
Isn't that ironic?! But it does make sense. Afterall, why have blood on your hands over several hundred dollars....

ronin
30-08-2014, 02:20 AM
The best pistol for SD.
9mm.or 30 bore.or 40 b0re.or 45 bore or 50
.and accuracy .and distance wise.
Please shere .

.45 sub compact, or .357 sub compact, both works fine for SD.
accuracy is dependent on model of gun,
distance wise they have 50 meters effective range which is fine for SD.

hmd
30-08-2014, 03:45 AM
So you don't carry now a days.
Bro I don't CC when I am alone but with family I CC my CZ Phantom and M&P9 I rather have it with me then regretting it later that why I didn't carried .

fezan
30-08-2014, 04:53 AM
hmd, bro do u carry both guns at a time?

hmd
03-09-2014, 10:03 PM
hmd, bro do u carry both guns at a time?
No bro I alternate between them .

Ashes
07-09-2014, 04:19 PM
Who cares about concealability as i dont carry... And i wish that i will never need to carry one..

it's not a personal thing, EVERYONE in Karachi needs to carry :)

Ashes
07-09-2014, 04:24 PM
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Bro in karachi the law & order situation is not that good.. And if ranger stops u at snap checking, even if u have complete documentation and 144 permit, they will confiscate the weapon on basis of license verification... So to avoid hassle i dont carry now a days... And dont know why rangers have so much love for glocks, that they dont let them go easily...
since alhamadolillah i dont have any life threats so why to carry tention and extra weight with u...
but definitely practising at range once a wek.

I beg to differ sir. I have been stopped and checked by rangers and police on numerous occasions and I carry 2 guns simultaneously.

Rangers hardly confiscate a weapon unnecessarily. Unless permits are suspended or specific instructions announced to not carry, as long as you have all the right paperwork, they never give any trouble.

Police is an entirely different matter however.

BreakNeck
07-09-2014, 04:37 PM
When permits are suspended, you normally get that surprise info from LEAs only. Also, they (LEAs) are almost never in a situation to show the notification that permits are suspended. Its unfortunate that a common citizen has no other option but to take their word for it. Ccing with family makes more sense than carrying alone.

zia raza
07-09-2014, 06:20 PM
When permits are suspended, you normally get that surprise info from LEAs only. Also, they (LEAs) are almost never in a situation to show the notification that permits are suspended. Its unfortunate that a common citizen has no other option but to take their word for it. Ccing with family makes more sense than carrying alone.


+1 .... It just what i want to say..

bilz
09-10-2014, 02:28 PM
Recoil is quite good and accuracy is good as well infact I like it more than my glock17...
Simply loving it!

Thanx for providing information...

Bro what about recoil, is it manageable, as because of shortened grip, the hand grip might not be that firm required for big bore...
what about accuracy?
about performance?
durability, ( as glock has a 9mm design, can it bare big bore pressure)
and lastly what is the information hidden in serial number prefix? What about decoding it?

Aquarius
09-10-2014, 10:32 PM
Recoil is quite good and accuracy is good as well infact I like it more than my glock17...
Simply loving it!
Bro why do you like it more than your G 17.. can you elaborate it a little more.. is it C/carry which is the major factor or is that the accuracy ??

AKA777
26-10-2014, 01:55 AM
i never seen a glock 30 in pak before! nice gun

asdx10
26-10-2014, 02:26 AM
it's not a personal thing, EVERYONE in Karachi needs to carry :)

I agree with @ASHES