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    Ask The Yank

    Well, former Brit, former Canadian, now Yank.

    Can I answer any questions about American guns and laws in general, and Indiana specifically?
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    general perception about US is that there are no GUN CONTROL LAWs or Rules, any body can buy and carry any Gun.
    But we would love to know the original story about the Laws,
    Which Guns .....
    1- are allowed to keep ?
    2-not allowed ?
    3-carry rules ?
    4-ammunition limit ?
    What I know is that 2nd amendment of constitution allow every citizen to keep the Gun.
    What you say ?
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    Great initiative Bro ,
    so my first question is ... when is ITAR gonna go away ?? how much it has effected American civilian purpose weapon and accessories exports ??

    Ps : i know this isnt what you intended but just for sake of it

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    There are at least 20,000 gun laws in the US. No one can track them all.

    Federal law allows ownership of any rifle or shotgun over age 18, handguns over age 21 (can be owned from age 18, if purchased privately). Automatic weapons must be manufactured before Jun 1 1986, and require a $200 transfer. Destructive devices (over .50 and not hunting/shotguns), short barreled rifles (under 16" barrel, 26" overall), short barreled shotguns (under 18"/26") and certain unusual weapons also require the tax stamp.

    There are no limits on the amount of ammo you can own.

    Carry laws vary by state and sometimes by city/county.

    The categories generally are:

    Handgun (must be transferred by licensed dealer if crossing state lines). Dealers may use mail between each other. If one party is not a dealer, then a courier (UPS, FedEx) must be used.
    Long gun (must be transferred by dealer if crossing state lines, but can be transferred face to face even across state lines)
    Destructive Device ($200 stamp)
    Machine gun ($200 stamp, must be pre-Jun 1986)
    Silencer ($200 stamp)
    Any Other Weapon (short barreled shotguns or rifles MANUFACTURED THAT WAY by a licensed manufacturer, or things that don't look like guns, like pen guns), $5 stamp
    Other Weapon (pistol grip shotguns, must be sold to someone over age 21)
    Weapon Made From a Rifle (If you cut it down yourself or have someone do it for you), $200 stamp
    Weapon Made From A Shotgun (same as above)

    Antique Firearm made before 1899, no restrictions of any kind, can be mailed, is legally not a firearm. You may do anything do it that does not involve cutting it short or making it automatic--you can rebarrel, change stocks, adjust, etc.

    Curio or Relic. Relics are over 50 years old and HAVE NOT been modified substantially (cutting stocks, turning barrels, changing calibers, etc). Curios "derive their value from their collector's interest rather than their function as a weapon." If the ammo isn't made (.44 Automag), or few were made, or it was used in a significant event (Assassination, battle), you can petition to have it added to the C&R list. Also, many military surplus weapons are C&R--Polish P64, Tokarevs, US military Smith revolvers, Mosin Nagants, etc. These can be shipped directly to anyone with a C&R License, but must remain in original format--you can't put a plastic stock on your Romanian SKS.
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    In the US, the action or receiver is the firearm and since 1968 are serial numbered. The rest is just parts.

    The convenient win is that the lower receiver (trigger housing) of the AR15 was the numbered part when it was adopted as a military weapon, so you can change entire upper receivers, calibers, barrels and just use one "rifle" to do so. They'd never allow that these days.
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    ITAR is really annoying. They even consider certain screws to be weapon components. It's workable with, but very aggravating, and a lot of dealers won't sell anything overseas because of it, and because of credit card fraud. My Austrian friends order stuff sent to my house, I confirm it's not ITAR restricted, and mail to them.
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    oh, yes--if dealers from out of state at a show have a gun you want, they have to drive home, then send it to your dealer. They can't transfer it to him at the show. C&R guns are exempt from this, and may be sold/bought from any dealer anywhere.
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    http://www.handgunlaw.us/ a rough summary of carry laws by state, and some other laws, can be found here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topak View Post
    general perception about US is that there are no GUN CONTROL LAWs or Rules, any body can buy and carry any Gun.
    Hahaha it certainly ain't true for the whole US. Depends on each state, NY has some of the strictest gun laws?!
    I like Texas's laws best...


    I don't know about the reliability of this, but it's informative;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law...%28by_state%29

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    Texas' laws are far more restrictive than people realize. Indiana, Arizona, Vermont, Alaska, Wyoming and Idaho have the easiest state laws.
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    Thanks a lot but i have more ! ...so if some one has ITAR export permit and is only selling civilian weaponry and accessories can he/dealer export them to other countries ? i am talking about performance /custom parts 2nd gen scope and other such hunting and shooting stuff ?

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    I think so. I'm not fully up on the details of ITAR. Scopes without scales in them are "hunting" not "military" and can be exported. Anything that goes on a civilian rifle that isn't specifically for sniping should be fine. Most scope mounts, muzzle brakes and even lights are okay.
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    well we thought our laws are complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunenthusiast View Post
    well we thought our laws are complicated.
    Maybe not so complicated, but the procedure is, apparently.

    @MichaelZWilliamson

    I've heard acquaintances from US there are many gun related accidents in states (especially with children), so they don't keep. How do you and other enthusiasts cope with this factor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by black arrow View Post
    Maybe not so complicated, but the procedure is, apparently.
    +1

    Both factors are MUCH complicated. :/


    I like how one can go to Walmart pick a rifle for 300 bucks and come home without any hassle

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    I've heard acquaintances from US there are many gun related accidents in states (especially with children), so they don't keep. How do you and other enthusiasts cope with this factor?
    Accidents involving children are on the close order of 30/year, so 1:10,000,000

    Most crime with guns is drug dealers shooting other drug dealers. And people who screw up the laws and don't realize it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelZWilliamson View Post
    Accidents involving children are on the close order of 30/year, so 1:10,000,000

    Most crime with guns is drug dealers shooting other drug dealers. And people who screw up the laws and don't realize it.
    And people with pea sized brains here kill atleast 30 people per day (or could be per week) with their aerial firing in cities, specially on weddings and other special occasions.

    @black arrow
    It's just a stereotype! Well it's the parents' fault if it does happen - weapons are to be kept away from children.

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    The only firing in the air here is in large cities on New Year's Eve, or occasionally after a major sports game. Detroit, Atlanta, LA are the most infamous.
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    I like how I can have someone walk past my table at the gun show (I sell knives, not guns), and I can say, "Nice. How much? Done," pay them cash and take it.
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    West Virginia's gun laws are nice. The only restriction we have is you need a permit to carry. Other that that its pretty much anything goes.

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