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    Supreme Member Afzaal's Avatar
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    Thumbs up Baikal's New Autoloader MP-155

    i just came to know Baikal is launching a new auto loader MP-155 with reduced weight 3.15kg yes 3.15kg with some extra user's friendly features


    that is now on my target list since i am Baikal's Lover
    waiting eagerly to have it in Pakistan's Market

    any rumors from big dealers would be appreciated.

    Regards
    Last edited by Afzaal; 22-11-2011 at 12:31 PM. Reason: topic edited

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    afzaal brother its really a nice share from your side THE MONSTER BAIKAL WITH 3.15kg!!! u sure its in 12ga.
    will love to buy one if its with the TRADITIONAl BAIKAL`s quality i.e rough and tough.

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    No Afzaal bro , Still not heard regarding its availability .Hope to see this beauty in 2012

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    "It's better to have firearm and not need it than to need one and not have it."

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    yes brother its in 12GA 76mm Chamber

    http://imzcorp.com/en/company/315.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naveed_pk View Post
    No Afzaal bro , Still not heard regarding its availability .Hope to see this beauty in 2012

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    hope so Naveed Bro
    have you chatted with Para or orient guys ?

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    Yes Bro , I confirmed before Posting my post
    "It's better to have firearm and not need it than to need one and not have it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naveed_pk View Post
    Yes Bro , I confirmed before Posting my post
    thankx for the acknowledgment bro
    have they given any time frame regarding availability ?

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    No bro , No time frame, just pray we get it soon
    "It's better to have firearm and not need it than to need one and not have it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naveed_pk View Post
    Hope to see this beauty in 2012
    NOT TOO FAR,so hoping for the same price range as MP 153
    but if dealers dont overprice it due to better apparent characteristics than mp153

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    nothing too much new in it.
    La Fortune Sourit aux Audacieux

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topak View Post
    nothing too much new in it.
    how can u say so???

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    Supreme Member Afzaal's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Topak View Post
    nothing too much new in it.
    i think its enough difference


    • option for left-handed shooters,
    • provision to mount additional sighting devices (optical or red-dot sights),
    • possibility to use an additional barrel without a bench work in repair shop,
    • gun design features a cut-off mechanism disabling the feeding from magazine to fire quickly the rounds different from those located in magazine.
    • Weight reduced from 3.5kg to 3.15
    what else you are looking for bro?

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    hahahaha
    Afzaal Sb and Durrani Sb please check the winking smiley in the sentence ........
    it good gun with new features.... (if you keep praising this gun, price will hike to mountains...i think you understand it )
    La Fortune Sourit aux Audacieux

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    lolx
    thats local's Market taste
    its gonna raise no matter all we dislike it beforehand
    dealers knows our psycho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Topak View Post
    hahahaha
    Afzaal Sb and Durrani Sb please check the winking smiley in the sentence ........
    it good gun with new features.... (if you keep praising this gun, price will hike to mountains...i think you understand it )
    hmmmm....

    then its just a a piece of iron nothing special about it.

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    Afzal bro. Although not relevant to this thread but congrats on your newly bought baikal O/U in silver finish. I am also searching for one since long without any success and now purchasing limit on my license is also nearing to end. Can you please let me know from where did you buy it? Regards

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    MP-155, sounds delicious. I see some fine wood of butt-stock n beautifully designed for-end in the pic. With all the good added features i hope it will be self-adjusting for different loads.
    Remember the first rule of gunfighting ... have a gun.

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    AoA Everybody

    Great thread. I too have been following (through various forums) the development of this New Russian Beauty. Interesting features and development however I would advise against trading in your MP-153s in favor of MP-155s. At least for now. Here is why:

    Certain features really tickle my fancy:

    1. No more adjustable gas system (self regulating only)
    no more fiddling around with a very moody (and times quiet frustrating) feature of the MP-153. the system will automatically adjust to any load it is being subjected to. Kinda Cool.

    2. Ability to use shims to change cast and length of comb
    Now this is certainly interesting. a good gun fit makes one hell of a difference in the way you shoot.

    3. Dovetail milled on the receiver (to install a variety of sighting systems)
    cool feature for somebody who want to shoot slugs. a definite plus.

    4. Improved controls (better shaped trigger guard, mag cut-off)
    I kinda liked the shape of the trigger guard. mag cut-off is pretty nice as well. at times you really dont want to cycle through every cartridge just to empty the magazine. plus it gives you the option of sudden load change given the situation (hunting).

    5. Reduced weight
    a big time plus

    Things that concern me:

    1. New design with no history or track record
    with every new product , there are bugs and issues. some of them are caught during designing, some during prototyping phase and some during serial production phase however others (the really nasty ones) reveal themselves only after years of continuous use. in short, you need some time before you can conclusively say that all kinks have been worked out. in other words: it takes a few years before a manufacturer gets everything right in a product.

    2. Probable design flaws that might need tweaking
    if you recall the history of Baikal MP-153, uptil 2005, it was plagued with a variety of issues ranging from durability to reliability and pattern performance. infact, if you compare your 2006 (or later) Baikal to a 2005 (or earlier) Baikal you will find striking differences in the shape of the barrel thread (choke system), cartridge elevator (design and shape) and bolt handle(more likely a cosmetic change only).

    3. No more adjustable gas system (self regulating only)
    This is either a good thing or a bad thing. however given the quality and inconsistency of locally manufactured cartridges I am more comfortable with a system which I can fiddle with or adjust.

    To Summarize:

    I would say that you hold on to your Baikal MP-153s for now. why? cause this new MP-155 still has a long way to go before it proves itself worthy to be called a Baikal shotgun. Something synonymous with hell and back reliability and tank like durability.

    Regards
    Last edited by 12GAUGE; 27-11-2011 at 08:16 PM.
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    Sir 12Gauge just said it all, beautifully explained.
    Remember the first rule of gunfighting ... have a gun.

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    Nicely explained 12Guage bro. The furniture looks better, that would be a nice change.

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