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    Quote Originally Posted by skeeter60
    One can not convert the .222 to 5.45 as 5.45 is a great deal smaller in diameter than the .222 which is actually .224 whereas the 5.45 happens to be smaller in diameter. One can open the bore but reducing the bore is not possible. This fraud of calling a military caliber as .222 was done to declare it as NPB and a number of " gentlemen " were involved.

    Incidently PB is not Caliber specific but whether the Rifle is full auto or semi Auto. All weapons with folding/collapsible stocks and capable of full auto should be PB. All weapons with Magazines over 5 rds except .22 rimfire should be PB.
    Krinkov is 5.45 x 39 and is from the family of Russian Assault Rifles, like the AK (7.62x39), The Ppasha, the Nikonova and the type 56 etc.
    I am so glad we can share a lot of information about the weapons on this forum and by educating each other be aware of the mis nomers to legitimise PB weapons
    I beg to differ with the statement in bold. that would effectively convert virtually all handguns an shotguns into PB!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatic Desires
    Quote Originally Posted by skeeter60
    One can not convert the .222 to 5.45 as 5.45 is a great deal smaller in diameter than the .222 which is actually .224 whereas the 5.45 happens to be smaller in diameter. One can open the bore but reducing the bore is not possible. This fraud of calling a military caliber as .222 was done to declare it as NPB and a number of " gentlemen " were involved.

    Incidently PB is not Caliber specific but whether the Rifle is full auto or semi Auto. All weapons with folding/collapsible stocks and capable of full auto should be PB. All weapons with Magazines over 5 rds except .22 rimfire should be PB.
    Krinkov is 5.45 x 39 and is from the family of Russian Assault Rifles, like the AK (7.62x39), The Ppasha, the Nikonova and the type 56 etc.
    I am so glad we can share a lot of information about the weapons on this forum and by educating each other be aware of the mis nomers to legitimise PB weapons
    I beg to differ with the statement in bold. that would effectively convert virtually all handguns an shotguns into PB!!
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    I stand corrected . I wanted to say 5 round magazines for Rifles. not for pistols/revolvers. Most rifles with larger capacity magazines and military calibers are assault rifles. Thank you; Enigmatic Desires
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    What is diffrence b/w 0.222 & 44 Bullets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TT-33
    What is diffrence b/w 0.222 & 44 Bullets?
    It is like the Difference between a domestic CAt and a LION

    The 0.222 bullet will float rather than hold in the 44 barrel

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    Lets Do Some Physics

    0.222 --> Unit is inch

    Diameter= 0.222 Inch
    1 inch = 25.4 mm

    5.45 --> Unit is millimeter

    0.222 inch = 5.6388 mm
    5.45mm = 0.214566929 inch



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    so ordinary 0.222 bullet is 5.6388mm, & then why people call these 5.56X39 or 5.45X39 as 222?, i& t means 44 is 0.44 inch (11.176mm) then what length of 44 bullet?

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    @TT-33 yes ur calculations are correct.

    Usually the First number in the millimeter scale is the diameter of the base of the bullet which is holded in the chamber. and the Second number is the Length of the bullet.

    The 7.62x25 ( TT Bullet ) and 7.62 x 39 ( Ak-47 Bullet ) 7.62 x 54 ( I think used in Dragunov ) All have same diameter of the base. But the difference is in the Length of the Bullet. say a TT bullet 7.62x25 have a 7.62 mm Base diameter and 25mm length of the Shell. And remember the lenght of the propellant ( Load or Bullet or whatever ) is not included in the measurement of the length. If you measure a 7.62 x 25 mm with a Scale. You will see that 25mm ends up at the point where the Shell Finishes.

    In the Inch scale, usually the length of the Bullet is not well defined and they tagged with other suffixes. Like 222 Remington, .45 ACP .. ETc

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    My question is as it there, what is lenth of 0.44 Bullet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TT-33
    so ordinary 0.222 bullet is 5.6388mm, & then why people call these 5.56X39 or 5.45X39 as 222?, i& t means 44 is 0.44 inch (11.176mm) then what length of 44 bullet?
    we call 5.56x45 a 223 bore and 5.45x39 a 222 bore.
    44 bore is German storm rifle sturmgewehr uses 7.92x33 Kurtz cartridge.
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    Thanks, PSI bhaee, it's clear now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsiFactor
    we call 5.56x45 a 223 bore and 5.45x39 a 222 bore.
    44 bore is German storm rifle sturmgewehr uses 7.92x33 Kurtz cartridge.
    if it is So that 0.44 is 7.92 x 33 Then all of my above Calculations are Wrong ACCORDING TO YOU!.!! Which I dont believe unless given proofs

    7.92mm=0.31181102362 inch

    I doubt how it is 0.44 ? ( and just not doubt, I am sure that its incorrect )

    And a 44 Caliber can be anything, a Revolver, a Rifle of something else, How can u exactly point it to the 7.92 x 33 Kurtz.

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    friends i smell PB in this topic or rule are change as my info .222 is pb on pakguns

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARlover
    friends i smell PB in this topic or rule are change as my info .222 is pb on pakguns
    LOL!. ARLover, 222 in Bolt Action is NPB is some parts of our country. Btw, here the discussion is something else. TT-33 is talking about some 44 Caliber and 44 is NPB. But, PsiFactor has inserted some shocking answers which are like doubting me everything I have shared above is incorrect!. If u can help .. Read the posts above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsiFactor
    we call 5.56x45 a 223 bore and 5.45x39 a 222 bore.
    44 bore is German storm rifle sturmgewehr uses 7.92x33 Kurtz cartridge.
    if it is So that 0.44 is 7.92 x 33 Then all of my above Calculations are Wrong ACCORDING TO YOU!.!! Which I dont believe unless given proofs

    7.92mm=0.31181102362 inch

    I doubt how it is 0.44 ? ( and just not doubt, I am sure that its incorrect )

    And a 44 Caliber can be anything, a Revolver, a Rifle of something else, How can u exactly point it to the 7.92 x 33 Kurtz.
    Your calculation are correct . As i said we call.......if you ask for 44bore in Durra they will give you stg 44 German rifle. stg 44 is not .44bore you are right 44 is the manufacture year.ie1944
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    stg 44 German rifle as my info first fully auto gun . 44 here in pakistan we see is ak type gun

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    Content edited because of PB nature.
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    Adilnp bro, while having thorough knowledge we are never confused!! even your case is PB so no discussion at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TT-33
    What is diffrence b/w 0.222 & 44 Bullets?

    the 5.45 round is the latest russian military cartridge introduced in 1974 and the .44 round is originally the german 7.92 (short) round.The .44 is actually the worlds first assault rifle round introduced in 1944 to the sturmgewehr assault rifles.However we shouldnt discuss this topic has discussing PB is strictly forbiden in this site.
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    haha hah a . .

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