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    Quote Originally Posted by KHADIMKHAN View Post
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    sir a bit of Googling before making strong claims is a good practice

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    Quote Originally Posted by AsadZero2 View Post
    sir a bit of Googling before making strong claims is a good practice
    How many world class LEAs uses vepr 12 in the world ?and what is the intresting thing in vepr 12 except AK design. Otherwise it is DBBL of 10 shot.Not a weapon of choice for close quarter combat not for hunting.
    Last edited by KHADIMKHAN; 26-12-2020 at 05:24 PM.

  3. #32123
    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatic Desires View Post
    The Vepr 12 Molot is used by the Spetsnaz: Russian Spacial forces.
    Where is the link that it is used by spetsnaz?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KHADIMKHAN View Post
    Where is the link that it is used by spetsnaz?
    Ok. I knew that Spetznaz and Russian police were using it. (Ye, ole wiki) But subsequent search showed that it now part of NATO's inventory. From the German Bundeshwehr to elite Greek counter terrorist agencies, the molot is the weapon of choice.
    https://www.rbth.com/science-and-tec...ussias-vepr-12

    Hell the russian army is even using it to shoot down drones!

    https://www.c4isrnet.com/newsletters...ing-gun-drone/



    https://army-news.org/2012/10/karabi...stranami-nato/

    https://www.armyrecognition.com/octo...2_1310127.html

    The German Schemessier GMBG company markets it for NATO

    But if course, if one wants to wage war on wee lill birdies than it is a bit of an overkill.

    As for the Greeks and the Germans.. What do they know? After all, it is just the DBBL of 10 shot. Usless for combat purposes.

    Which reminds me.. My AR is basically a single shot rifle. It just shoots 30 times in one mag. But those idiots in NATO.. They still use that useless weapon.
    Last edited by Enigmatic Desires; 27-12-2020 at 02:25 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsadZero2 View Post
    sir a bit of Googling before making strong claims is a good practice
    Eve a 5 minute search turned up multiple countries whose LEAs and armies use this "DBBL-weapon-in-10-inch " They just cant understand that its useless.

    Sad.. Aint it?
    Last edited by Enigmatic Desires; 27-12-2020 at 02:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatic Desires View Post
    Eve a 5 minute search turned up multiple countries whose LEAs and armies use this "DBBL-weapon-in-10-inch " They just cant understand that its useless.

    Sad aint it?
    Sad indeed sir, google shah is always so supportive :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatic Desires View Post
    Ok. I knew that Spetznaz and Russian police were using it. (Ye, ole wiki) But subsequent search showed that it now part of NATO's inventory. From the German Bundeshwehr to elite Greek counter terrorist agencies, the molot is the weapon of choice.
    https://www.rbth.com/science-and-tec...ussias-vepr-12

    Hell the russian army is even using it to shoot down drones!

    https://www.c4isrnet.com/newsletters...ing-gun-drone/



    https://army-news.org/2012/10/karabi...stranami-nato/

    https://www.armyrecognition.com/octo...2_1310127.html

    The German Schemessier GMBG company markets it for NATO

    But if course, if one wants to wage war on wee lill birdies than it is a bit of an overkill.

    As for the Greeks and the Germans.. What do they know? After all, it is just the DBBL of 10 shot. Usless for combat purposes.

    Which reminds me.. My AR is basically a single shot rifle. It just shoots 30 times in one mag. But those idiots in NATO.. They still use that useless weapon.
    Nice one Bro.Its means I am lucky to have have one with four magazines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FA226 View Post
    Nice one Bro.Its means I am lucky to have have one with four magazines.
    No. Not at all, brother. After all, it is just a double barrel that shoots 10 times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AsadZero2 View Post
    Sad indeed sir, google shah is always so supportive :P
    I usually only write reviews of weapons I have personally tested. Alternately, I read and read and read till I am able to test it on my own.

    I have been researching the Vepr 12 since the past 10 years! Do check my review on Tactical arms in the dealers' section. It is more of a Molot review than a dealer review. And I did that one like 8 years back!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatic Desires View Post
    Ok. I knew that Spetznaz and Russian police were using it. (Ye, ole wiki) But subsequent search showed that it now part of NATO's inventory. From the German Bundeshwehr to elite Greek counter terrorist agencies, the molot is the weapon of choice.
    https://www.rbth.com/science-and-tec...ussias-vepr-12

    Hell the russian army is even using it to shoot down drones!

    https://www.c4isrnet.com/newsletters...ing-gun-drone/



    https://army-news.org/2012/10/karabi...stranami-nato/

    https://www.armyrecognition.com/octo...2_1310127.html

    The German Schemessier GMBG company markets it for NATO

    But if course, if one wants to wage war on wee lill birdies than it is a bit of an overkill.

    As for the Greeks and the Germans.. What do they know? After all, it is just the DBBL of 10 shot. Usless for combat purposes.

    Which reminds me.. My AR is basically a single shot rifle. It just shoots 30 times in one mag. But those idiots in NATO.. They still use that useless weapon.
    These links are not belongs to official websites of security's agencies you mentioned except greek. And i am not talking about AR. Vepr 12 is not comparable with AR in any sence.
    Last edited by KHADIMKHAN; 27-12-2020 at 09:50 PM.

  11. #32131
    Quote Originally Posted by AsadZero2 View Post
    Sad indeed sir, google shah is always so supportive :P
    Any official site from google?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FA226 View Post
    Nice one Bro.Its means I am lucky to have have one with four magazines.
    I'm not talking about personal animosity with anyone.
    Last edited by KHADIMKHAN; 27-12-2020 at 09:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KHADIMKHAN View Post
    These links are not belongs to official websites of security's agencies you mentioned.
    Does Navy Seal, Delta Force, SSG have a website. I have never seen any special force which have a website and also advertise what weapons they are using. I think its best that we should let this argument go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KHADIMKHAN View Post
    I am not talking about 10 round
    AR.
    i am also not taking about 10 round Ar i am taking about about my vepr 12 with 4 extra mags filled with fiocchi 00 buck shots and with my AR i only have eight 30 rounds mags full of lovely green tips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FA226 View Post
    i am also not taking about 10 round Ar i am taking about about my vepr 12 with 4 extra mags filled with fiocchi 00 buck shots and with my AR i only have eight 30 rounds mags full of lovely green tips.
    FA226 i edited my post

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    Quote Originally Posted by KHADIMKHAN View Post
    I'm not talking about personal animosity with anyone.
    brother its a friendly forum we are here to share our view and opinions and our views and choices might be different but facts are facts.

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    If there are 4 choices i.e, 5.56,7.
    62, .222, 9mm, 12g. With weapons of choice then any fighter will never chose 12g.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KHADIMKHAN View Post
    If there are 4 choices i.e, 5.56,7.
    62, .222, 9mm, 12g. With weapons of choice then any fighter will never chose 12g.
    i will my self go with my 7.62 rifle and 9mm pistol.but some times forces use shotguns for certain purposes like door breaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KHADIMKHAN View Post
    If there are 4 choices i.e, 5.56,7.
    62, .222, 9mm, 12g. With weapons of choice then any fighter will never chose 12g.
    every weapon has a certain benefit at a certain time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KHADIMKHAN View Post
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    I did not write that it is not used۔

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