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    Kindly check the originality of this pistol.

    I saw this used CF-98 with a dealer in pindi. The pistol appeared to be in good condition. But kindly check these tooling marks near the locking lugs of the barrel and also the way the in which the serial number is carved into the barrel. The serial number was also carved in the same way inside of the frame. Shouldn't the serial numbers be stamped on these parts, like it is on the slide, in a standardized font. Are these things normal for an authentic CF-98 ?
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    Serial number is fine on the barrel is fine
    It should be on the feed ramp where the slide rides
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    Quote Originally Posted by shahroze View Post
    Serial number is fine on the barrel is fine
    It should be on the feed ramp where the slide rides
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    I don't think there was anything else engraved on the barrel. These are all the pictures I was able to take. The serial number is also carved on the frame the same way as it is done on the barrel. The picture isn't clear, but I have highlighted it. So, these tooling marks on the barrel are normal ?
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    I am talking about the black piece the connector where the slide rides and the guide rode goes in.
    It's original as far as I can tell.
    It's blur in the first picture and 3rd picture with the trigger unit
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    Quote Originally Posted by shahroze View Post
    I am talking about the black piece the connector where the slide rides and the guide rode goes in.
    It's original as far as I can tell.
    It's blur in the first picture and 3rd picture with the trigger unit
    Strangely, the part you are referring to, had a different number on it, than the serial number stamped on the rest of the parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malik94 View Post
    Strangely, the part you are referring to, had a different number on it, than the serial number stamped on the rest of the parts.
    There is something about guns that just makes me get up and write. I was going to sleep until I saw your reply. So to cut it short I'll explain it in the best possible way I can.
    For example a serial number of the gun is 01489 12 236
    Now the magazine should have 01489-1 and 01489-2 stamped on them near the base. The frame should either have 01489 or 01489 12
    The same number on the barrel
    Same on the connector which you say has different number and even on the trigger unit. Which is the part which sits in the polymer frame.
    Even any of the don't match leave it.
    It's okay if they don't write 12 with the number or 236
    But if a number is totally changed I'd leave it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shahroze View Post
    There is something about guns that just makes me get up and write. I was going to sleep until I saw your reply. So to cut it short I'll explain it in the best possible way I can.
    For example a serial number of the gun is 01489 12 236
    Now the magazine should have 01489-1 and 01489-2 stamped on them near the base. The frame should either have 01489 or 01489 12
    The same number on the barrel
    Same on the connector which you say has different number and even on the trigger unit. Which is the part which sits in the polymer frame.
    Even any of the don't match leave it.
    It's okay if they don't write 12 with the number or 236
    But if a number is totally changed I'd leave it.
    Thank you so much for bearing with my novice questions, and for a such a detailed reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanitoup View Post
    pistol is written is Plstol
    No it looks like it, due to the blurred pictures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistanitoup View Post
    pistol is written is Plstol
    Also the "C" in "Made in China" is not capitalized. As far as I know the Chinese are proud of their Country and always Capitalize their Country Name.
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    Found these pictures on the net for reference.
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    Looks suspicious to me
    Better stay away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afzaal View Post
    Looks suspicious to me
    Better stay away.
    I agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afzaal View Post
    Looks suspicious to me
    Better stay away.
    And the dealer was asking 95k for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malik94 View Post
    And the dealer was asking 95k for it.
    Better to visit fakhar e alam
    You will get 100% genuine weapon
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    It appears to be a mix of original (used) parts and local parts. Window shoppers aside, serious buyers are still buying NIB CF98 under 100K. Dealers behave differently when a serious buyer enters with cash in pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imtiaz Shah View Post
    It appears to be a mix of original (used) parts and local parts. Window shoppers aside, serious buyers are still buying NIB CF98 under 100K. Dealers behave differently when a serious buyer enters with cash in pocket.
    I was suspecting the same. I showed him two demand notes, that is why he went through the pain of field stripping it, but he had gotten very annoyed after I started taking pictures of it. As you might be even more familiar with the attitude problems, which most dealers have. The problem is that none of the dealers in Rawalpindi had a CF-98/NP-42 in stock.
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    I sold mine a few weeks back for 75k
    You won't get a new one at this time for below 80 85
    Np42
    Cf98 is a few k less
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    Quote Originally Posted by shahroze View Post
    I sold mine a few weeks back for 75k
    You won't get a new one at this time for below 80 85
    Np42
    Cf98 is a few k less
    I could have bought it at that price. In which city is available new for 80-85 k ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by malik94 View Post
    I could have bought it at that price. In which city is available new for 80-85 k ?
    Lahore
    But prices change almost weekly or as per dealers mood
    You may try your luck lahore or Peshawar.
    If you have your mind set on the norinco I'd say np42 not the cf98 which you shared
    Check both np42 and cf98 when you buy one.
    Difference is only cosmetic
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