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    Very rightly said Ali bro
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    AoA all,

    Bro Ali D is absolutely right, now there are more DOUBLES and REVERSE DOUBLE shots in
    revised (ISSF Shotgun rules) for Olympic skeet event.

    Single triggers allow the shooters to retain the same grip and trigger finger position, the moment
    they rotate back for the second shot.

    The most killing thing in all CLAY COMPETITIONS is to have a shotgun with (HEAVY TRIGGER PULLS)
    and triggers breaking at different PULL WEIGHTS. The main culprits for second SYMPTOMS are the low
    cost TURKISH O/Us. The most preferred ones are around 3 or 3-1/2 Lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian-50 View Post
    AoA all,

    Bro Ali D is absolutely right, now there are more DOUBLES and REVERSE DOUBLE shots in
    revised (ISSF Shotgun rules) for Olympic skeet event.

    Single triggers allow the shooters to retain the same grip and trigger finger position, the moment
    they rotate back for the second shot.

    The most killing thing in all CLAY COMPETITIONS is to have a shotgun with (HEAVY TRIGGER PULLS)
    and triggers breaking at different PULL WEIGHTS. The main culprits for second SYMPTOMS are the low
    cost TURKISH O/Us. The most preferred ones are around 3 or 3-1/2 Lbs.
    Actually a fellow member enamored me to the concept of duel trigger sxs. He used two fingers for two triggers. the first and the second. Claimed that method was the best. Since I have zero experience in DBBL shotties, I have no personal experience to count on, hence trying to learn before spending money.
    "Keep a complete control over your Temper and Anger because I never found anything more beneficial at the end and producing more good results then such a control" Hazrat Ali (A.S) tz.enigmatic@gmail.com

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    AoA bro,
    I would love to explain the "TRUE MECHANICS" of an ideal CLAY SHOOTING SHOTGUN.

    Weight: Should be at least 7-1/2 to 8-1/2 Lbs ( The lighter guns kick more).

    Barrel/s: Ventilated Top Ribs help to dissipate heat, quicker than SxS shotguns
    therefore for shooters who like to see the front bead aligned to clays
    sometimes see a DISTORTED CLAY due to DELAYED HEAT DISSIPATION
    OF SxS MID RIBS.

    Forends: Wrap around type forends in SEMIS and O/Us protect the shooters front hand
    from discomfort of heated barrels, although few wear gloves to cater for the same
    while using SxS.

    Stock Fit: The ESSENCE of successful shotgun shooting rests on a proper stock fit irrespective
    of TYPE of shotgun we use. The most suitable factory stocks, which could be altered
    for an average built guy are normally found in O/Us and semis.

    Triggers: Pull weights should be crisp,3-1/2 Lbs and in case of doubles, the timing of both" PULLS"
    should be identical to each other.

    Chokes: Many famous brands of O/Us and semis have muzzle end threading, which accept the
    custom after market chokes. To get the OPIMUM PATTERN out of your 24-gram shotshells
    one has to make a comparison between factory chokes and custom chokes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatic Desires View Post
    Actually a fellow member enamored me to the concept of duel trigger sxs. He used two fingers for two triggers. the first and the second. Claimed that method was the best. Since I have zero experience in DBBL shotties, I have no personal experience to count on, hence trying to learn before spending money.
    The only advantage in double trigger as I see, is to discharge both barrels at the same time.
    And yes one can be master on his double trigger gun with two fingers. It takes much practice but it is possible and can be quicker than single trigger breaking twice.
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    fezan brother firing both the barrels at the same time will give a jerk and results in missing the shot, and for hunting it will blow the blades of the bird

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    sxs are classic guns and at that time they have no such tech like single trigger.Now we are just following the tradition as they sxs have an extreme charming personality which no one denies

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    Misn-50 sir I would.like to ask your choice of O/U that can be best used for Sports as well as hunting. One gun for both purpose.
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    AoA bro Fezan,

    I have Beretta-686 and it serves both purposes, but I do recreational Clay shooting.
    In case I get a chance I would go for:

    1.Beretta DT-11 (Sporting model)
    2.Beretta 692 (Sporting model)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mian-50 View Post
    AoA bro Fezan,

    I have Beretta-686 and it serves both purposes, but I do recreational Clay shooting.
    In case I get a chance I would go for:

    1.Beretta DT-11 (Sporting model)
    2.Beretta 692 (Sporting model)
    Thank you very much sir, I am grateful for your response.
    I guess sporting model serves both purpose. Also, kindly guide me on the price range for both in Pakistan.
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    AoA bro,

    Haven't checked the market, and actually these type of Top models are imported by
    the dealers on specific requests of the customers.


    An idea about international prices:

    Beretta DT-11 -------- 6000 to 7000 Euros.
    Beretta 692 --------- 3500 to 3800 Euros.

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    Mian sb, can I have your email Id pls
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    Plz explain different cn np 22 and np 22

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    Mian sb, can I have your email Id pls
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    Thanks a lot sir. Email sent
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    Dear All,

    Its been a long time i posted this thread and i am very thankful to all the members specially Mian-50 Sahab for their deep insight knowledge about the shotguns. Finally i have my license in my hand (May Allah Bless my Late Father as he come to assist me even after his death as I will be able to convert his license in my name through proper channel).

    Now, I am still stuck between the selection of the guns, either O/U or Semi's ? Can't decide yet. Personally i like O/U's as they look stylish and more durable due to simplicity of design. As far as my intentions for shooting/hunting it will be occasionally once in a month or twice so budget (as mentioned by Mian-50 Sahab) will not hampered my passion.

    After a very long study on net, forums on PG and other resources i have selected following models of shotgun for purchase. In this i need expert's advise as once License undergoes through Nadra i will not be able to change my gun.

    01. Hatsan Optima Silver Synthetic O/U multiple chokes, stylish Looks (my personal choice as most attractive gun to my eyes)
    02. Baikal MP-153 or MP-155 Semi (As per the PG forum and threads review)
    03. Hatsan Escort Dynamic/Dynova SYN (Inertia System)
    04. Hatsan Escort PS/Trio/auto Slug 26"/Double Magnum (gas operated I like the magnum due to 3.5" chamber for the magnum cartridge)
    05. Baikal MP-27M/MP-27EM-1C "Sporting"/MP-233 Sporting and Hunting (prefers either of the sporting model as for dual purpose)

    It is my humble request from the seniors here to guide me through their vast knowledge for the best budgeted gun which serves me for SD, HD, Shooting & Hunting.

    Any one from karachi to update me about the latest prices of the above mentioned models or any recommendation other than listed models will be most welcome.

    looking forward for your response.

    yours truly.

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    Wlll. i did see a Baikal MP-153 with wooden furniture at Mega Armoury, Lucky Star Saddar karachi. (Daniyal) it was NIB. Asking (if I recollect correctly) was 110k
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    AOA

    thanks a lot bro for update i will check with him

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    AOA every one,

    after some more reviews and insights from the expert i further filter my selection for purchase. Any one please tell me the difference between the inertia system and gas operated systems of semi's.

    01. Hatsan Optima Silver Synthetic O/U multiple chokes, stylish Looks (my personal choice as most attractive gun to my eyes)
    02. Baikal MP-153C (As per the PG forum and threads review)
    03. Hatsan Escort Dynamic/Dynova SYN (Inertia System)
    04. Hatsan Escort Double Magnum (gas operated I like the magnum due to 3.5" chamber for the magnum cartridge)

    As my shooting will be occasional therefore with limited budget which gun i will go for under 100K. A friend of mind told that the hatsan escorts are around 150K and baikal around 100K is it possible that hatsan surpass the baikals ?

    Any feedback about the optima silver synthetic O/U ?

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