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    A good and unbiased review. Thanks.

    Firing pin breaking is 'hmmm' .. and agreed that 2 grades would be disastrous!

    It's a very good thing that DSA management are taking feedback in a positive way so this pistol should evolve for better.
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    ok.... i think whatever gun anyone has, he at least have some command on it to acquire target easily. tons of ammunition could not make you capable for SD & HD....... Jibz knows it bcz there are few things instinctive or may be genetic.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAUDSONSARMOURY View Post
    Dear Mr. jibz, Dr. Gilani sb, Mr. Nazim, mr. Fraz and mr. Colt1911

    thank you all for your keen initiative, time and professionalism. We are grateful to you all for your efforts and first hand feedback. We have full faith in the DSA TRUSHOT and as promised, improvements will become visible on a continual basis. Every successful product follows an evolutionary path and we promise that ours will too!

    However, your continued support and trust in us is of paramount importance. We take our customer satisfaction and product quality extremely seriously. Having mentioned this we would like to request PG members and theirs friends to bare in mind that the DSA Trushot is after all being marketed as a budget 9mm that will perform under the normal use environment. So please be fair in your judgements even if they are critical in nature.

    We are also working on color options, accessory options, grips and personalization options like engraving etc. these options will add to the customization of the Trushot as per your needs for an added cost.

    we will produce videos of the standard drop test and other tests over time.

    The DSA warranty also stands by the DSA TRUSHOT with 18months of after sales service and part replacement in case of a manufacturing defect. Abusive usage is not covered under warranty however there is a lifetime part availability guarantee from DSA. Unfortunately the laws within Pakistan governing firearms do not allow for them to be transported freely, which makes it impossible for our dealers to handle warranties for our customers. Customers are responsible for delivering products under warranty directly to DSA. We cannot change this unless there is a change in government policy for the transport of firearms within Pakistan.

    We see this as the biggest advantage for owning a DSA firearm apart from its obvious price and performance benefit.

    Gentlemen, once again thank you for your good efforts, we will remain in touch with you and other enthusiastic PG members. please do visit us at www,Facebook.com/daudsonspk and share your stories with your friends and families.


    Sincerely,

    DSA
    Thanks alot for the warm welcome at the DSA facility, most of the members on PG are very supportive for quality local guns and we understand that Daudsons has established a reputation after delivering durable weapons to the consumers. keep up the good work and keep the prices down, if u keep prices reasonably down (while maintaining quality) as compared to the imported guns u will find a lot of buyers..... Your forthcoming attitude and ease of parts is also an added advantage

    P.S dont forget to give discounts to Pak Gunners :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verve View Post
    A good and unbiased review. Thanks.

    Firing pin breaking is 'hmmm' .. and agreed that 2 grades would be disastrous!

    It's a very good thing that DSA management are taking feedback in a positive way so this pistol should evolve for better.
    firing breaking at this stage is not much of an issue, the cause is being deliberated upon. however we must remember the circumstances which led to its breakage. The gun was hot, dunked in water (temperature drop), fired 15 rounds (drastic rise in temp) dunked in water (temp dropped) please see the video Nazim sab ensured that the water reaches even the bottom of the mag :P , fired 7 rounds (temp risen) and then it broke.... it may not be the only reason but for sure is among the reasons. 357 rounds were fired, most people in Pakistan dont shoot this much with a gun in a life time.
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    At last the long awaited testing and its report ... GR8 work dears specially to Dr. Gillani for takeing the initiative and spearheading the task.
    all hands and hats up for Jibz bro for such a brilliant review and post, couldn't had been done better ...
    thnx to the rest of the bunch for their part specially Nazimsb who insisted and brought fore a important aspect of the gun.
    Here I would go with Jibz that the pin was bound to break at that time and the temp diff wouldn't had been that much of a factor as I don't think that it could have gone that much hot in the first place.

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    Thank you kind Sirs for your kind comments.

    We are working on improving the firing pin design however, to be fair we would request Pak Gunners to please carry out similar tests on your imported or other local made weapons and share your results with us. It would really help to know whether others can perform at par with our Trushot and if the expectations are reasonable or beyond what other weapons are capable of.

    Another point which is very important and should be taken into consideration is that guns which qualify NATO standards for military applications require an extreme temperature shock test and then gun should fire after the exposure. Regardless of the temperature, the gun should fire, however, there is no mention of how many rounds should be fired. The gun might fire once or twice or 10 rounds and then something might break, but the test is passed and the weapon is qualified. The Trushot fired around a magazine and a half before the firing pin broke after the water dunk test, which is by no means a standardized test for firearm safety or qualifications. Dr. Gilani sb may also agree to this. Anyhow, NATO standards are a completely different ball game. Not all manufacturers are not willing to qualify their guns to NATO standards simply due to the irrelevance to their targeted market and firearm usage.

    Please note that DSA has other weapons that comply to NATO standards and our aim will be to, 'over time' bring our handguns up to these standards as well.

    We are hoping that you gentlemen will carry out similar tests on other weapons and share your results with us soon. It is possible that the results may surprise all of us.

    Nazim Saheb, we have taken the Trigger guard issue into consideration and will incorporate these design changes into near future productions.

    Thank you,

    Sincerely,

    DSA

    Quote Originally Posted by Fraz View Post
    firing breaking at this stage is not much of an issue, the cause is being deliberated upon. however we must remember the circumstances which led to its breakage. The gun was hot, dunked in water (temperature drop), fired 15 rounds (drastic rise in temp) dunked in water (temp dropped) please see the video Nazim sab ensured that the water reaches even the bottom of the mag :P , fired 7 rounds (temp risen) and then it broke.... it may not be the only reason but for sure is among the reasons. 357 rounds were fired, most people in Pakistan dont shoot this much with a gun in a life time.
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    AOA
    good effort guys, keep it up. it looks you enjoyed that day [Ma sha ALLAH] you all look good
    best of luck DSA.

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    Please Please refrain from 1st and 2nd grade weapons.

    It may well have worked for DSA security and DSA Shooter since there is an option of light and heavy loads in shotguns. But the same will "NOT" work with a weapon that fires only one standard round.

    Wehter its 1st or 2nd grade it will fire china red box and/or local ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraz View Post
    firing breaking at this stage is not much of an issue, the cause is being deliberated upon. however we must remember the circumstances which led to its breakage. The gun was hot, dunked in water (temperature drop), fired 15 rounds (drastic rise in temp) dunked in water (temp dropped) please see the video Nazim sab ensured that the water reaches even the bottom of the mag :P , fired 7 rounds (temp risen) and then it broke.... it may not be the only reason but for sure is among the reasons. 357 rounds were fired, most people in Pakistan dont shoot this much with a gun in a life time.
    agreed!!!.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ajmal virk View Post
    Dear Jibz bro nice review excellent jobs bro no doubt this pistol looks great and also happy to see faces of few PG fellows.
    thnx BRO!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verve View Post
    A good and unbiased review. Thanks.

    Firing pin breaking is 'hmmm' .. and agreed that 2 grades would be disastrous!

    It's a very good thing that DSA management are taking feedback in a positive way so this pistol should evolve for better.
    DSA is incredibly good in customer satisfaction!

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    Quote Originally Posted by balochistan View Post
    ok.... i think whatever gun anyone has, he at least have some command on it to acquire target easily. tons of ammunition could not make you capable for SD & HD....... Jibz knows it bcz there are few things instinctive or may be genetic.....
    practicing with same weapon does improve - some ppl like JIBZ are born shooter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraz View Post
    Thanks alot for the warm welcome at the DSA facility, most of the members on PG are very supportive for quality local guns and we understand that Daudsons has established a reputation after delivering durable weapons to the consumers. keep up the good work and keep the prices down, if u keep prices reasonably down (while maintaining quality) as compared to the imported guns u will find a lot of buyers..... Your forthcoming attitude and ease of parts is also an added advantage

    P.S dont forget to give discounts to Pak Gunners :P

    good points!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraz View Post
    firing breaking at this stage is not much of an issue, the cause is being deliberated upon. however we must remember the circumstances which led to its breakage. The gun was hot, dunked in water (temperature drop), fired 15 rounds (drastic rise in temp) dunked in water (temp dropped) please see the video Nazim sab ensured that the water reaches even the bottom of the mag :P , fired 7 rounds (temp risen) and then it broke.... it may not be the only reason but for sure is among the reasons. 357 rounds were fired, most people in Pakistan dont shoot this much with a gun in a life time.
    very well said about reasons

    I shall CALIBRATE the laser based thermometer so that no issue with our values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K-203 View Post
    At last the long awaited testing and its report ... GR8 work dears specially to Dr. Gillani for takeing the initiative and spearheading the task.
    all hands and hats up for Jibz bro for such a brilliant review and post, couldn't had been done better ...
    thnx to the rest of the bunch for their part specially Nazimsb who insisted and brought fore a important aspect of the gun.
    Here I would go with Jibz that the pin was bound to break at that time and the temp diff wouldn't had been that much of a factor as I don't think that it could have gone that much hot in the first place.

    ALLAAH SWT bless you all
    sir we are honored with having so wonderful around us; people like your self who are so supportive! I am thankful to PG test team! it became so wonderful enjoyable event!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hash11 View Post
    AOA
    good effort guys, keep it up. it looks you enjoyed that day [Ma sha ALLAH] you all look good
    best of luck DSA.
    Dear sir @HASH11 - thank you for your kind words!!!! And yes we enjoyed it very well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enigmatic Desires View Post
    Please Please refrain from 1st and 2nd grade weapons.

    It may well have worked for DSA security and DSA Shooter since there is an option of light and heavy loads in shotguns. But the same will "NOT" work with a weapon that fires only one standard round.

    Wehter its 1st or 2nd grade it will fire china red box and/or local ammo.
    I agree as well to have one GRADE - however options can be created for various feature to choose from, if needed.

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    Thank you Sir Dr. Gilani, Mr. jibz and other members,

    Please be sure that this "1st and 2nd" grade terminology is being miscommunicated amongst readers. '1st and 2nd grades' mean two different models and not inferior or superior grades of quality in the same model. We would like to further clarify the following:


    1. Having two grades does not mean that the 2nd grade will be something below existing standard/grade/model of the Trushot.

    2. Any additional grades to the existing gun will surpass/exceed the material spec. and manufacturing quality of the existing Trushot which already performs very well. You may think of terms like 'match grade' etc. which are improvements to standard/base models and will have a higher price tag and will be sold as a separate model. Of course prices TBA later when such grades become available for the Trushot.

    3. We are not interested in increasing the existing price of the Trushot by much, so any improvements in this standard/base model Trushot will reflect of this policy.

    4. Another clarification on the term 'grade' is that when this was discussed with PG members the intention was that different models(grades) of the Trushot would be introduced such that Grade A might have better accessories, grips, finishes, engravings etc. along with perhaps a possibility of a higher spec. barrel, quicker trigger and better finishes overall.


    We hope this clarifies any doubts regarding the term 'Grade' and it's relevance to our products.

    Thank you,

    sincerely

    DSA

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Gilani View Post
    I agree as well to have one GRADE - however options can be created for various feature to choose from, if needed.

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    @DAUDSONSARMOURY...kindly consider the Long Trigger Reset issue and the alignment of sights as well...the front sight on that particular piece was a bit raised

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Gilani View Post
    good points!!!
    Thank you sir i hope DSA also agrees to the P.S part :P
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