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Ka_Khan
22-05-2009, 07:40 PM
How to Select a Hunting Knife

Selecting a hunting knife can be a very personal thing. As you know hunting knives come in many sizes, shapes and styles, such as folding knives and fixed blade knives making selection difficult. We will attempt to give you information that will assist you in this task. Below we discuss styles, blade types and options that we think are important.
The first thing to take into consideration when purchasing a hunting knife is "what is the purpose of the knife". Are you after meat for the table or a trophy to mount in your den? Your answer to these questions will dictate the type of hunting knife and blade style you will need.

KNIFE STYLES

Folding Knives

Folding knives are strong enough for most hunting , camping and fishing needs. They come in two main types, Lockback and pocket knives. Lock back knives have a release mechanism that secures the blade in the open position. They have the strength and reliability of a fixed blade knife and allow one handed opening when dressing game or cleaning fish. Pocket knives are much like the lockback knife but are more compact for easier carrying. However they do present a safety issue since they can close while working.

Fixed Blade Knives

Fixed blade knives have a straight rigid blade and are generally the more rugged , reliable and easier to clean of the two. They are also easier to access. However fixed blade knives tend to be bulkier, heavier, and potentially dangerous if not handled properly.

BLADE STYLES

Drop Point Blade
Drop point blade is the most popular for hunting knives. It has a curved blade that drops into a point giving added strength to the tip. The design of this blade allows for full use of the knife's edge when cutting, rather than just the point.

Clip point
The clip point blade is thinner and flatter than the drop point blade. This gives you greater control over the knife and the cutting and slicing process will become easier.

Skinning Blade
The skinning blade has a round, blunt shape suitable for skinning and gutting game. Its shape makes it difficult to accidentally damage the skin or meat of the animal.

Guthook Blade
The Guthook blade gives the user better control when cutting into the abdomen preventing accidental puncturing of the intestines, bladder or stomach.

Fillet Blade
The fillet blade is a long, flexible, thin blade making it ideal for filleting or cleaning fish. They come in single or multiple blade styles.

m1carbine
22-05-2009, 07:41 PM
wah khan_sb,very great info

Turumti
22-05-2009, 08:45 PM
How about we put up pics of our knives?

Ka_Khan
22-05-2009, 10:17 PM
How about we put up pics of our knives?
You are wellcome and members are displaying their knives on another thread under "How many knives"...you can post your knives there.I am sure you will have something special to show us.

Turumti
24-05-2009, 12:00 AM
Nothing special in my cupboard, no Rambo knives I have, just a few old fashioned throat slitters.

12GAUGE
24-05-2009, 12:32 AM
+1 to Ka_Khan

however i feel that the fancier the knife, the more useless it becomes, in my experience those US army KA-BAR (military/tactical) or Rambo type bowie knives (plain old commando style) are pretty much useless in hunting scenarios.

here in my experience, a plain knife works. i use genuine schrade's Old timers (not the cheap chinese copy). nothing like it in my personal experience.

Regards.

p.s. US army knives, knives with cellphones, knives with builtin mp3 players, knives with all sort of accessories such as bottle openers/hammers/pliers/aircraft building accessories/marine equipment/heart monitors/drills/chisels/portable diesel generators etc. etc. are absolute nonsense toys.

Turumti
24-05-2009, 02:56 AM
@12 gauge

I agree with your contention regarding military and combat knives such as the KA-BAR etc, that they are rather useless as hunting knives. The fact of the matter is that are NOT hunting knives, and thus not made with that objective in mind. Having said that a single blade is also not always enough specially if you want to carry one knife all the time. In such situations, a good lightweight multipurpose knife such as the Victorinox Huntsman 1.3713. I have had Swiss Army knives for the past twenty five years, and never leave home without one. They have served me well too.

Hamid
24-05-2009, 12:23 PM
Multi purpose knives are very practical but when it comes to hunting, nothing matches our local kasai's arsenal of Toka and Churry.
To me imported knives are just decoration pieces with little or no practical usage. Their shinny look goes right after they are sharpened on a stone but desi stuff works superb.

m1carbine
24-05-2009, 02:01 PM
Nothing special in my cupboard, no Rambo knives I have, just a few old fashioned throat slitters.
Dear Trumuti
Knife is knife and rambo knive is not so useful as compared to common knives.fele free to post pics.

A R K TAREEN
25-05-2009, 03:20 PM
Nothing special in my cupboard, no Rambo knives I have, just a few old fashioned throat slitters.
Dear Trumuti
Knife is knife and rambo knive is not so useful as compared to common knives.fele free to post pics.

Dear K_khan
Brother very nicely explain about quality and variety of knives.

m1carbine

Gentleman I do agree with you, that "knife is knife", so turumti do not hesitates to post pictures.
Regards to all

Always remember the golden rule "SAFETY ON PRIORITY".

Saeen
25-05-2009, 04:47 PM
Thanks for the informative article khan sb :)

Ka_Khan
25-05-2009, 09:03 PM
I hope you Guys will have no difficulty in choice of weapon for the coming Eid-e-Qurban !

m1carbine
26-05-2009, 03:02 PM
these choices can be for Qassai,as i myself never hilal a hen.

12GAUGE
27-05-2009, 12:57 AM
@12 gauge

I agree with your contention regarding military and combat knives such as the KA-BAR etc, that they are rather useless as hunting knives. The fact of the matter is that are NOT hunting knives, and thus not made with that objective in mind. Having said that a single blade is also not always enough specially if you want to carry one knife all the time. In such situations, a good lightweight multipurpose knife such as the Victorinox Huntsman 1.3713. I have had Swiss Army knives for the past twenty five years, and never leave home without one. They have served me well too.

I absolutely agree with you sir but somehow i'm not comfortable with the idea of hunting with swiss army knives. they are multipurpose alright and can be used for survival/lost/marooned on an island kinda situations i'll agree however they are not strong enough to be dedicately used in hunting. we are talking strictly talking about hunting knives right? atleast thats what it says on top of this topic.

here's a thing: next time tune into discovery's survival man, the guys is professional stuntman and a survival specialist. he carries an ordinary folding knife.

allow me to post the picture of my trusty blade:
its an Schrade's OLD TIMER. a simple folding knife with hammer forged stainless steel blade and brass handle. heavy as a rock but very strong. i've done some tasks with it and it proved that it was money well spent. tasks that totally ruined genuine ka-bars and bowies. my blade's down side is that its blade even after many years of abuse is still so sharp that i have to handle it with care cause it can easily chop a finger off in no time.

http://www.postimage.org/gx1hVNrJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1hVNrJ)

check this out: its blade is so sharp, most of the time, ye shikar ko haram kar dayta hai, it totally decapitates/chops the neck off the shikar with only a little extra force.

Turumti
27-05-2009, 02:44 AM
12Gauge

Having gone through quite a few knives in the past two decades, I have come to the conclusion that for small game hunting (duck, partridge, quail, hare and sandgrouse etc), a Swiss Army Victorinox Huntsman 1.3713 is the best companion. The reason is that it has blade that can be sharpened to a razor edge, and that knife can also has a saw, screwdrivers, corkscrew, bottle opener, toothpick, tweezers, wire cutter, etc. I have used all these applications at one point in time or the other, and am not worse off for it.

Furthermore, no knife stays razor sharp forever, it has to be kept razor sharp. Being old fashioned in more ways than one, I prefer a 60 year old oilstone to sharpen my knives. If you make a good edge the first time round, then subsequently all you ever have to do is gently glide the blade over the lightly oiled stone in a few smooth and shallow strokes, alternating the sides of the blade as you do so. Once the blade is sharp enough to shave the hair off your forearm without snagging on your skin, you are good to go hunting.

Having said that though, the best throat slitter I have ever had is an Italian Lion Steel folding knife with a 4.5" blade. That knife is sharp enough to slice through a hare's neck in one draw, with minimal downward force and even bigger game such as gazelle require nothing more than a mere acknowledgment of gravity to make them lawful for you to eat.

All said and done, a knife is something very personal, whatever has worked best for you, is the best there is.

Last but no the least here are the links to two of the knives that I so ardently admire.


http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=161&lang=E


http://www.worldknives.com/products/lion-steel-pattada-molla-26cm-folding-pocket-knife-ls625co-1972.html

12GAUGE
27-05-2009, 10:57 AM
Lion Steel Pattada Molla 26cm Folding Pocket Knife

now thats a good knife, awesome specimen. and what do u mean the best u had?, u dont have this one anymore? :(



Once the blade is sharp enough to shave the hair off your forearm without snagging on your skin, you are good to go hunting.


since i dont sharpen my knife ever and never needed to as well, i thought might as well try out u'r tip. it worked. it shaves. however i did end up with a cut. nothing to worry about, not than a regular shaving cut.

Regards.

Turumti
27-05-2009, 02:07 PM
I still have that knife. As for not having to sharpen your knife, how come? Do you not use it?

12GAUGE
27-05-2009, 04:24 PM
I still have that knife. As for not having to sharpen your knife, how come? Do you not use it?

its the only knife i got, it gets it fair share of use in cutting/slicing/tightening screws/hammering tent stakes in the ground/fixing other hunter's knives by beating their blades into submission etc. etc. the list of ultra weird uses is pretty long.

and funny thing is: the blade is as sharp as ever.

Regards.

only downside to my blade i see is that it is a bit heavy, slightly larger and kinda cumbersome. but then again, the blade's back/dull side is over 1cm thick. i guess its made to be abused.

Turumti
27-05-2009, 11:31 PM
Nothing is made to be abused, buddy. Knife, gun, friend, woman, dog, bird, beaters etc, treat all with respect. Respect begets respect. Abusing a lifeless thing breaks it, abusing a living thing breaks the relationship.

12GAUGE
28-05-2009, 12:08 AM
Abusing a lifeless thing breaks it, abusing a living thing breaks the relationship.

spoken like a true genius, thanks for the relationship advise Dr. Phil. ;)

Regards.

Turumti
28-05-2009, 02:36 AM
spoken like a true genius, thanks for the relationship advise Dr. Phil. ;)

Regards.

Welcome you are, old chap. Such scholarly discourses at such an unlikely forum...I feel like Master Yoda in the making here.

Aamar
28-05-2009, 11:14 AM
@ Turumti, u do resemble Master Yoda :D

Turumti
31-05-2009, 12:27 AM
Here are some pics of my knives. I took them this evening, will take some tomorrow in the daylight as well, and put those up too.
http://www.postimage.org/Pq1dzfPS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1dzfPS)

http://www.postimage.org/Pq1dzJLA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1dzJLA)

http://www.postimage.org/Pq1dzYJr.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1dzYJr)

12GAUGE
31-05-2009, 01:21 AM
thats some nice collection bro. very nice indeed.

Regards.

Ilyas
31-05-2009, 02:26 AM
@Turumti... really beautiful collection Bro.
Specially the Italian lion steel... it's very classic :)

HassaanAfzal
31-05-2009, 02:38 AM
very nice collection

Turumti
31-05-2009, 03:13 AM
If you look at the last pic, the three wood handled fixed blade knives on the left are Finnish Lappland knives. The one on the top right is Victorinox Hunter with a semi-serrated blade. The one below it is a Puma - Trapper's Friend with an olive handle. The one below the Puma is a Spanish Muelay knife, about ten years old and has been used a quite a bit.

Of the four folding knives below, the first two are from Lion Steel, Maniago, Italy. The bigger one has the sharpest edge of any knife I have ever seen. It goes through a hare's neck in one draw, and a gazelle's in two. However, this knife is still not the sharpest blade in Lion Steel's arsenal. I will put up a pic of that blade shortly.

The red knife is my regular companion - my Victorinox Huntsman 1.3713. I keep it on me all the time.

And the little black lock-back knife is an American one called "Case". It is a marvellous little thing. Very small and very sharp, ideal for hawking - when you do NOT want a long blade around your birds. I had two of these knives. One I lost in a friend's house, and it was never found. So I took this one out of the drawer. To be honest, I lost this one as well, some years back, when out flying my hawks. I had dropped in the sand and accidently drove over it (after dark), and then I spent an hour searching for it with the aid of the Jeep's headlights, and finally found it when I thought saw something shine near a bush. Thus, the reflective ribbon tied to it now!!

Turumti
31-05-2009, 03:24 AM
The sharpest blade in Lion Steel's arsenal!! ;)
http://www.postimage.org/aVUEs8J.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVUEs8J)

HassaanAfzal
31-05-2009, 03:31 AM
now thats sharp :)

Taurus
31-05-2009, 05:46 PM
Too Sharp :P

Ka_Khan
31-05-2009, 06:23 PM
Seems Arabs also have taste for Blades ! ;)

Turumti
05-06-2009, 05:26 AM
For all you knife fanatics out there.

If you want a razor sharp edge on your hunting knives, I'll put one for you gratis (free of charge). This offer is valid only for hunting knives, and NOT for fruit knives, aaloo pyaaz wali chhurri, and Baqra Eid ka toka!!

HassaanAfzal
05-06-2009, 01:13 PM
I would have done so but i am in Isl

Sialvi
08-06-2009, 01:44 AM
DIR,very practical, solid and cheap knives. best choice for small game and waterfowls as well as upland birds. in foreign makes, i like benchmade most.

PakistanGuides
10-06-2009, 11:24 PM
Ka-Khan
It's a wonderful article, however, it would be great if you could please paste photos of each category of knife so we may also identify its kind with the help of such photos.

Ka_Khan
11-06-2009, 11:26 PM
Thanks for appreciating the article.I will get the pics for u soon.

Thunder
12-06-2009, 02:06 AM
Nice collection ... :)

Ka_Khan
12-06-2009, 12:31 PM
Thunder give us the pics..

Thunder
12-06-2009, 02:55 PM
Gerber Suspension multi-tool, and a Gerber Vector folding knife.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75525&d=1243955238
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75526&d=1243955238

Thunder
12-06-2009, 02:58 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/AngryFinn/Knife4edit.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v729/AngryFinn/Knife5edit.png

Thunder
12-06-2009, 03:01 PM
afsoc leatherman
kanetsune
gerber profile fixed blade
camillus
buck
buck
gerber multitool

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3432/3404847559_81fa059a88_b.jpg

Turumti
12-06-2009, 04:21 PM
Thunder,

I like your three knives in the middle the best. Can you please shed some light on them? Thanks.

Thunder
12-06-2009, 07:49 PM
These are not mine :)

Ahmad
12-06-2009, 10:45 PM
very good read, thanks

Monis
27-06-2009, 11:19 AM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1873/42648620.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

Monis
27-06-2009, 11:20 AM
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9716/26581954.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

A R K TAREEN
27-06-2009, 12:48 PM
Monis
It is a good decorative and classic piece of knife. Where did you bought this and what is the price.
Regards

Topak
27-06-2009, 03:49 PM
dear ARK tareen pleases visit vazir abad, there you will find all types of knives daggers,sword both operational and decorative.

m1carbine
27-06-2009, 03:53 PM
dear ARK tareen pleases visit vazir abad, there you will find all types of knives daggers,sword both operational and decorative.

Yes wazriabad is a very good market for all kinds of swords,knives and cutlery items and price is really amazing,the large hunting knife which u find in rewp/isb at the cost of 15kto 20 is easily available just in Rs.400 he quality is awesome.i recently visited wazirabad and bought some stuff

KageFox
27-06-2009, 04:49 PM
Where can I get a good, sturdy, large size, lockback hunting folder (within 4" blade)?

What price range and can it be kept without an arms licence?

@Thunder: very nice Benchmade you got there? Would you care to share the specs of this knife, including price and where you bought it?

Ka_Khan
27-06-2009, 07:35 PM
What price range and can it be kept without an arms licence?

All Daggers/knives upto 6" could be kept without license.

KageFox
27-06-2009, 10:09 PM
Kept I understand. What about carry, for perhaps, defensive purposes or as a utility tool (such as a lockback folder)

12GAUGE
28-06-2009, 04:03 AM
All Daggers/knives upto 6" could be kept without license.

i'm sorry brother but it is the blade's length that determines its licensing requirement. for a knife that doesnt require any type of licensing, the blade's length has to be less than 4 inches. only exception to the rule are flick knives, they require licensing no matter what length blade they have.

source: PAKISTAN ARMS ORDANANCE 1965


http://punjablaws.gov.pk/laws/190.html

Regards.

Monis
28-06-2009, 01:55 PM
A R K tareen this knife is gifted by my friend dont know the price