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raja yasir
03-01-2012, 02:54 AM
i use to hunt with my diana 35 and gamo whisper and some times shotgun,just got my hands on diana 56th zerod it up with 3-9 40 tasco ,plus lazer bipod and zoom light,went for hunt.71827183

s.cheema
03-01-2012, 08:13 AM
nice pictures

Birdshooter007
03-01-2012, 10:52 AM
Nice hunting, could you tell where you shot the rabbit?

raja yasir
03-01-2012, 10:34 PM
japan road sahala zone 5

Birdshooter007
03-01-2012, 11:33 PM
Thanks for disclosing the location :)

malik160
03-01-2012, 11:35 PM
thats a nice rifle bro.

raja yasir
10-01-2012, 12:49 AM
hunt no 2 this sunday

Ameer
10-01-2012, 07:11 AM
nice airgun u have got.

Laino
10-01-2012, 07:26 AM
Wow nice gun.

Trigger_happy78
10-01-2012, 08:01 AM
Very nice airguns you have there bro. Nice hunting.

rajapaki
10-01-2012, 11:06 AM
Salam, I am new to pak guns

rajapaki
10-01-2012, 11:13 AM
I need some info from experienced members about the airguns, I am interested to purchase Gamo Hunter or Gamo big cat. Which one is better and what is the best price in Rawalpindi/Islamabad.

Birdshooter007
10-01-2012, 12:10 PM
I need some info from experienced members about the airguns, I am interested to purchase Gamo Hunter or Gamo big cat. Which one is better and what is the best price in Rawalpindi/Islamabad.
What is your price range? Don't know about the former one, but I would prefer a Shadow 1000 over the latter(big cat). How much is your budget? If around 30k, then get a Diana RWS 34 classic, available @Badruddin & Son and Shamsuddin & Sons RWP for 32k. (IMO It's much better than any Gamo you'll find).

rajapaki
10-01-2012, 12:24 PM
Thank you Chaudhry Sahib, I have already Chinese B-3 .22. But one of my friend got Gamo DX which is quite light in weight. thats why I thought to go for Gamo

Birdshooter007
10-01-2012, 12:32 PM
If you want something lightweight, go for a Gamo then because I don't know if RWS 34 Panther (lighter, plastic stock variant) in Pak. But if you want something durable, powerful, dependable etc go for the 34 if your budget allows.

rajapaki
10-01-2012, 12:53 PM
Thanks for your valuable guidance. I need some more info about the NPB License for 12 gauge Riffle for hunting. I visited many dealers in RWP and ISB to obtain the original license from MOI - ISB but could not succeed. One of the dealer of college road RWP said that he can arrange the Punjab License from Lahore @ 24k (fresh copy) and it will be original. I am very much confused what to do? - I will highly appreciate for your kind advise.

Birdshooter007
10-01-2012, 12:58 PM
Thanks for your valuable guidance. I need some more info about the NPB License for 12 gauge Riffle for hunting. I visited many dealers in RWP and ISB to obtain the original license from MOI - ISB but could not succeed. One of the dealer of college road RWP said that he can arrange the Punjab License from Lahore @ 24k (fresh copy) and it will be original. I am very much confused what to do? - I will highly appreciate for your kind advise.
24k is too much, that to for a Punjab lic. NPB MOI (all Pakistan) license should be around 15k through dealer, though MOI's are not being issued currently. Go to some dealer in Lahore with reputation, like Baksh Elahee or PARA, they'll charge you , 20k and will not give you a fake one.

raja yasir
10-01-2012, 01:14 PM
raja sahab welcome to pakguns ,I bought the gamo because it was light ,but its not that powerful plus not durable ,after a week of purchase its trigger had problems .if you want a lighter gun available in pakistan ,go for panther 31.

rajapaki
10-01-2012, 01:41 PM
Thank you Chaudhry Sahib, I will definitely visit LHR within few days. But license issued from LHR will be all Pakistan or it will be only for Punjab?. My CNIC is issued from RWP but living in ISB Territory.

rajapaki
10-01-2012, 03:17 PM
Thanks Raja Yasir, I have seen your nice collection of Guns and I am very much impressed. your wrote about panther 31, is it professional airgun for hunting? or what do you suggest which gun is best for hunting.

raja yasir
10-01-2012, 03:29 PM
raja sahab
You are welcome,i recommended panther 31 because its available in market and its lighter then 34 and 35 with same power,saw one in camo color in sadar its beautiful

raja yasir
10-01-2012, 03:42 PM
i thought that my 45 36 and 35 were heavy guns till i bought 56 ,now after several hunts with 56, when i hold these guns they feel so light .

rajapaki
10-01-2012, 03:52 PM
Thanks Raja Yasir Sahib, any idea about price of panther 31 in Saddar

raja yasir
10-01-2012, 04:23 PM
round about 32k

Masroor
10-01-2012, 04:45 PM
Raja dear U have Nice Air Guns.

Mehdi
10-01-2012, 06:03 PM
@Raja Yasir

Your gun and hunting pics are great.I believe the Hare was shot when it was feeding in the fields at night, your scope and light certainly came in handy.I have a Diana 35 classic it is an all round best air gun to have.Could you share the scope specs, rail and their price with us.I am thinking of getting similar scope and rails for my Diana 35.

There used to be lot of Hares around where I live but due to population increase they are not to be seen now. I think around your locality their population is still abundant.

Birdshooter007
10-01-2012, 06:36 PM
Thank you Chaudhry Sahib, I will definitely visit LHR within few days. But license issued from LHR will be all Pakistan or it will be only for Punjab?. My CNIC is issued from RWP but living in ISB Territory.
As I said earlier, All Pakistan Licenses are not being issued for an indefinite time period. You can only get a Punjab License from Rwp or Lahore. Dealers from Pindi are going to rip you off (24k for Punjab license).
And you can't keep a gun in Islamabad that has been issued on Punjab License.

raja yasir
10-01-2012, 07:26 PM
mehdi bro
yes the hare was feeding in the field ,the scope was great at night in moon light ,scope is 6-24x50 it was zoomed at 9x for quick sporting when the rabbit was sported at 180 feet zoomed to 14x took the neck shot ,at this hunt no lights were used at all,the hunts before that we used these lights for spotting .
the rail on scope is weaver rail and two piece weaver mounts,got the rail from uk and mounts from islamabad.because any thing else wont hold the zero on powerful springers.

Mehdi
10-01-2012, 07:50 PM
@ Raja Yasir

Brother you also have range finder or the scope has a built in range reticle ? What make is this scope.Wishing you good hunts we still have 4/5 good moon lit nights left.Keep updating on your Bunny hunts. Best of Luck.

raja yasir
10-01-2012, 08:06 PM
ordered two scopes leupold 6-24x60 meldot mounted on diana 56 ,other is tesco 6-24x50 range finder reticle,reason i chose 35 for this particular hunt was the tesco scope had better wide view,and works better in poor light conditions.

raja yasir
10-01-2012, 08:53 PM
thanks bro

raja yasir
11-01-2012, 12:39 AM
this is must have setup for night hunting.installed on my diana 35,for guys who want to hunt rabbits.

Eagel
11-01-2012, 12:45 AM
TRY Weihrauch Air Rifles

raja yasir
11-01-2012, 12:56 AM
shore i will if i could get one but i was thing more of air arms s410 and crossman marauder what do you think.

Birdshooter007
11-01-2012, 04:53 PM
shore i will if i could get one but i was thing more of air arms s410 and crossman marauder what do you think.
Benjamin Maruder??
That's a good one. Weihrauch HW100 is even better.

raja yasir
11-01-2012, 05:03 PM
take a look at benjamin rouge .357 epcp at you tube and let me know your thoughts

Birdshooter007
11-01-2012, 06:38 PM
.357 are big bore airguns. I would not prefer big bores because you have to recharge them after every 2-5 shots (depending on the airgun you have).
Plus big bore ammo is expensive, unlike cheap pellets for .177 or .22.
Third thing is ammo would not be available here. You can only get it from abroad or make your own, the later option I believe is not possible here.
Plus they are loud unlike smaller calibers so the sole genes of airguns would be eliminated (they produce a little twang only).

I'd prefer a .223 or .243 b/a rifle instead of any of the big bores.
Out of the 3 common big bore calibers- 9mm(357), .45 and .50, I like .45 the most.

raja yasir
11-01-2012, 10:16 PM
does big bore guns require licence,what do you think

Birdshooter007
11-01-2012, 10:33 PM
does big bore guns require licence,what do you think
Nope, it's an airgun. No license... this is a plus point.

raja yasir
11-01-2012, 11:21 PM
thats why i like this gun more plus its sound is not like bullet fire.less recoil means more accuracy .

Birdshooter007
12-01-2012, 02:45 PM
thats why i like this gun more plus its sound is not like bullet fire.less recoil means more accuracy
I think these have alot of recoil. Rifles are very accurate despite the recoil and I enjoy the bang.

raja yasir
12-01-2012, 08:26 PM
do you maintain your 350 after 1000 pellets.

Birdshooter007
12-01-2012, 09:34 PM
do you maintain your 350 after 1000 pellets.
Haven't passed 1000 through it, well can't maintain it in Pakistan. Because you need barrel cleaning pellets, RWS lubricants, seal washers or whatever they are, bla bla.
SO NO, IT's NOT POSSIBLE TO DO SO.

raja yasir
13-01-2012, 01:47 AM
tell you what take a nasa rusto-nil spray used for cleaning guns,spray it in your guns barrel .simple 22 rifle cleaning rod and you will see the lead dirt coming out of barrel.good tip for pellet accuracy.you dont need any thig else 

Birdshooter007
13-01-2012, 08:12 PM
tell you what take a nasa rusto-nil spray*used*for cleaning guns,spray it in your guns barrel .simple 22 rifle cleaning rod and you will see the lead dirt*coming out of barrel.good tip for pellet accuracy.you dont need any thig else*
No, nothing should be sprayed in the guns barrel other than original RWS barrel lubricating fluid, that too 3-4 drops of it.
And it would be a great help if you could tell me where to find a 22 cal cleaning rod.

raja yasir
13-01-2012, 11:03 PM
any gun cleaning oil is good for air gun barrel.cleaning rods used to clean.and caliber of .22 bullet rifle and .22 airgun is same and latter is easily available in market,i used this tip on all my air guns and the result is great.

Birdshooter007
14-01-2012, 10:24 AM
any gun cleaning oil is good for air gun barrel.cleaning rods used to clean.and caliber of .22 bullet rifle and .22 airgun is same and latter is easily available in market,i used this tip on all my air guns and the result is great.
Where can I find a .22 cal cleaning rod? At Badruddin??

raja yasir
14-01-2012, 04:12 PM
almost all dealers have it .local costs about rs 50

raja yasir
14-01-2012, 08:52 PM
pellets used for rabbit hunting

Birdshooter007
14-01-2012, 09:02 PM
almost all dealers have it .local costs about rs 50
Ok, will get one when I visit Pindi.

Gardezi
15-01-2012, 08:27 AM
this is must have setup for night hunting.installed on my diana 35,for guys who want to hunt rabbits.



AOA @ all

@ Raja Yasir shb , i liked your guns and installated accesories . Will you please let me know where can I get these night hunting stuff from RWP / ISB ?

raja yasir
16-01-2012, 05:07 AM
you can get it from sadar or super market

raja yasir
17-01-2012, 02:52 AM
my new hunting dagger

raja yasir
18-01-2012, 03:31 PM
found this second hand winchester .22,dealer is asking 70000 what do you guys think,by the way its second hand

Birdshooter007
18-01-2012, 10:20 PM
I think 70k is too much for it.

raja yasir
19-01-2012, 05:47 PM
i think so to,but what should be its price any way

Birdshooter007
19-01-2012, 08:31 PM
The max. I would pay for it would be 40k, don't know about it's market price.

Because some 2 years ago, I was getting a Remington Semi Auto .22LR (Used but in great condition) with the same pipe mag as in the pic, 15 rounds capacity. I liked it's looks better than this one. Asking price was 27k, would have come down to 20-22k after bargaining.

raja yasir
19-01-2012, 09:27 PM
if you come upon the same kind of deal again let me know.

Birdshooter007
19-01-2012, 09:46 PM
if you come upon the same kind of deal again let me know.
Ok Bro. That was in a city near Multan, I'll check the price & Availability on my next visit there in a couple of months. If there's some good offer still on, I'll inform you. Hope traveling till there is not an issue for you.

Birdshooter007
19-01-2012, 09:53 PM
Searched a bit on GOOGLE and found a similar looking gun. It was this EXACT Model. Condition was just like of the one in the pic.

It's a Remington 550-1.
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/REMINGTON22LR.jpg

25k seems pretty good for a used one in 80% condition. Ahhh.... missed the deal because MOIs weren't being issued otherwise I was definitely going to get it.

shahid.bashir
20-01-2012, 12:38 AM
this is diana 350 mag. pro. comp.

Birdshooter007
20-01-2012, 12:05 PM
Shahid Bashir, GREAT Shooting! :)

raja yasir
20-01-2012, 09:16 PM
this is diana 350 mag. pro. comp.
Great shooting but i believe i have seen this picture on the net two years ago.

shahid.bashir
20-01-2012, 11:38 PM
please open this link



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blTHmzk6F-w

Birdshooter007
21-01-2012, 05:46 AM
@Raja Yasir and others

Have you ever came across similar pellets? I got these @500 rupees/ tin of 200 recently. They seem very old. The tin is rusted. And the pellet shape is new to me. And what is this powder on the pellets? Do I need to wipe it off before shooting?
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/pellets003.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/pellets005.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/pellets006.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/pellets007.jpg

raja yasir
21-01-2012, 11:23 AM
where did you got these look like least 10 years old,wash them with surf and water,then after drying add some machine oil i guess they will be fine.

Birdshooter007
21-01-2012, 11:30 AM
where did you got these look like least 10 years old,wash them with surf and water,then after drying add some machine oil i guess they will be fine.
Got these from some shop in Khi, don't know the name. I think I should use a dryer to wipe the powder off... Won't adding oil cause deaseling in the barrel?

raja yasir
21-01-2012, 11:45 AM
washing pellets is a common practice even in new ones.and the oil will wipe out the rust .then you can wipe them before use.

raja yasir
22-01-2012, 06:15 AM
Did a camo job on my diana 35 what do you guys think

rajapaki
23-01-2012, 09:47 AM
Raja Yasir Sahib, Nice job, well done.
Re to your Rabbit hunt on Japan Road. Yesterday I took the long drive from 6PM to 11PM but could not find any Rabbit. Would you help in this regard as I am living in PAK PWD and Japan Road is close to me.

rajapaki
23-01-2012, 10:57 AM
Dear Raja Yasir Shib, Finally I decided to ask a friend in Dubai to purchase a best airgun of Diana from Al-Sayyad and send to me. But the question is this which model of Diana is best for hunting. I need your valuable advise of the model, its approx price and suitable scope of it.

raja yasir
23-01-2012, 11:35 AM
dear rajapaki sahib,Diana have a lot of good models,the medium power ones are about 10000 less in price then high power ones medium power ones include diana 35,34 and panther 31,and the high power ones are 350 models in break barrel,48,52,54 and 56th in side liver (54 and 56 th have no recoil so amazing accuracy so they are most expensive).And mod 460 and 470th are available in under liver these have recoil but plus point is less weight.I will recommend,If you want to spend less money and also use locally available pellets then get panther 31 in camo,If you want to spend more money get 350 magnum (personally i like the pro compact one),then if you spend bit more get 460 its less expensive then 470 both very nice and different ,And if you spend more you can buy 54 its less expensive then 56th both are best guns only drew back is the weight.

rajapaki
23-01-2012, 12:17 PM
Thank you very much Raja Sahib for detailed information. I really want to have good one to use it for both short and long range shots. Currently I have one Chinese BS-3 but it lost power after using approx. 300 pellets. This weekend I gone for dove hunting and disappointed due to its 0 performance. I called yesterday Al-Sayyad - Dubai about the prices and they said they have Diana Models starting from Dhs. 1195/= to Dhs. 1995/=.

I worked for more than 22 years in Dubai and bought best reliable things for personal use but did not think about the AIRGUN :eyebrows:

Any how, please advise about my question of JAPAN ROAD where I did not find the Rabbits last night,........ Would you help us.

raja yasir
23-01-2012, 07:26 PM
today i tested my gamo with three kinds of pellets,note;the gamo pellets are not locally purchased,got them from al sayad,the result says the rest ,by the way the distance was 60 feet expect.

Birdshooter007
23-01-2012, 07:36 PM
^Gamos are the worst pellets in the world.PERIOD.

bbiillaall
23-01-2012, 10:33 PM
very nice hunt bro :)

raja yasir
25-01-2012, 12:04 AM
thanks bro

raja yasir
26-01-2012, 09:03 PM
today i tested the diana magnums in my 56 at 200 feet(60 yards) and The result was amazing it was worth making a video of it.So i ordered some more of pellets.

Birdshooter007
26-01-2012, 09:06 PM
today i tested the diana magnums in my 56 at 200 feet(60 yards) and The result was amazing it was worth making a video of it.So i ordered some more of pellets.
Great, how do you measure the distance, and how much is the pellet drop @60 yards, must be around a 2-mildot holdover, am I right?

raja yasir
26-01-2012, 09:16 PM
the distance is already measured at my home my plot size is 100x200,i always zero my gun at 100 feet,AS for this particular gun it stays at that zero 160 feet and at 20 time zoom its less then two dots holdover but at 10x magnification its less then one dot.

raja yasir
26-01-2012, 09:18 PM
when are you mounting scope on your gun.

raja yasir
26-01-2012, 09:18 PM
Thinking of getting a range finder.

raja yasir
26-01-2012, 09:19 PM
Leupold scope do have a range estimation.

Birdshooter007
26-01-2012, 10:13 PM
when are you mounting scope on your gun.
Will receive the scope in the 2nd week of Feb, sadly the 2000 Crosman Premiers I ordered won't be coming.
Don't think I'll have time to shoot or mount the scope right now, having exams.

raja yasir
26-01-2012, 11:20 PM
Best of luck with your exams

raja yasir
28-01-2012, 11:22 PM
Today i did a paint camo on my diana 45

raja yasir
29-01-2012, 08:45 PM
today went for hunt and had the worst score of this season hit 10 doves and got only three,i think these diana magnum pellets are accurate but they don't penetrate well,the three i got were hit on the wings so they were not able to fly away ,and tried it with all guns same result .Not going to order any more of these .

raja yasir
01-02-2012, 06:25 PM
Today while target practice with my 56 saw a crow at 100 yard wanted to see the pellet drop range at that distance .So the crow was sitting with its head out at front i aimed for the head with three maldot hold over at 20 x zoom And bang pellet hits his head came down like rock,i was not expecting to get a head shot at that distance that's why i took the shot only for the head felt sorry for it later .

paki.gunner
01-02-2012, 08:08 PM
verhy nice share. suddenly i got interest in air guns. i used to think its for kids :)

raja yasir
01-02-2012, 08:39 PM
ya bro its adult fun plus they can be used at backyard ,ammo is cheapest can practice every day,and high powered ones with right pellets can compete with .22lr guns.

raja yasir
03-02-2012, 02:57 PM
Can any one share info on this bird ,Its found around pindi isl near water.got it once but a friend of mine insisted that its not halal so gave it to a cat.

raja yasir
05-02-2012, 11:33 AM
"Eid Milad ul Nabi Mubarak" May Allah shower his countless blessings on us on this auspicious occasion.

arsalan
06-02-2012, 12:47 PM
can any one share info on this bird ,its found around pindi isl near water.got it once but a friend of mine insisted that its not halal so gave it to a cat.

not exactly this bird bro, there is a yardstick in islam, "every bird which does not used its claws in eating is halal" so you should check and monitor this bird if possible. In my opinion it seems halal.

Mastermind
06-02-2012, 03:26 PM
wow lovely work looking great

zainulabdeen
06-02-2012, 03:46 PM
Can any one share info on this bird ,Its found around pindi isl near water.got it once but a friend of mine insisted that its not halal so gave it to a cat.


this is a migratory bird as other ducks and falcons etc but arrives earlier than ducks and leaves later. in our local sindhi dialect it is called "KUHUNG" . i dont know its zoological name. but it is amazing that some KUHUNGS injured during winter hunt have been seen and recorded surviving the injuries and nesting and even breeding in the scorching heat of upper sindh , i have my self seen , though rarely , these birds in wilderness of upper sindh during sizzling hot days and yes , we treat it as halal bird , it not a completely water dependent bird as ducks , and this fact is also proved from its beak which is pointed one and claws as its claws do not have the fins. its meat is tasty and without any stinking smell

raja yasir
06-02-2012, 10:48 PM
salam pg brothers,
Today i went for hunt with my friend in the evening at around 5 we reached the hunting spot ,today i decided to take diana 36 and 56th , started the dove hunt with 36 had half an hour took five doves till 5:30 pm and no misses this gun is so accurate after all these years and powerful as well .Then at night fall around 7 pm started the search for rabbits got two in around one hour with the lazer attached to the barrel of 56th and the hole hunt took 7 pellet ,i will call it a good evening at hunt.Pellets i used today were Diana magnums

rajapaki
07-02-2012, 09:30 AM
Congratulations Raja Yasir Sahib, nice hunt with your nice air riffles. Can you disclose the location of your hunting spot if possible?

raja yasir
07-02-2012, 01:36 PM
thanks bro, i already disclosed the location on this forum its japan road ,and you got to look in side the fields at night.

arsalan
07-02-2012, 01:36 PM
Dear Rajayasir bro, in my opinion donot hunt doves now, as breeding season is about to start. In our area we have stoped the hunting of local birds as hunting of local birds have also been prohobited by the wild life deptt. just go for migrated birds as allowed.

Anjum
07-02-2012, 02:08 PM
@raja yasir (http://www.pakguns.com/member.php?6230-raja-yasir) I liked your dagger. please tell its cost and availibility in RWP

raja yasir
07-02-2012, 07:31 PM
Got it from super market for 2.5k

Birdshooter007
07-02-2012, 07:40 PM
These knives are available in Super Mkt (F-6 Markaz) @Khyber Store and @Islamabad Store.

raja yasir
07-02-2012, 10:40 PM
Dear Rajayasir bro, in my opinion donot hunt doves now, as breeding season is about to start. In our area we have stoped the hunting of local birds as hunting of local birds have also been prohobited by the wild life deptt. just go for migrated birds as allowed.
dear arsalan
as per my knowledge the hunting season for doves ends on 15th of feb but still it was my final hunt for doves for this season thanks for update .

Birdshooter007
07-02-2012, 10:48 PM
dear arsalan
as per my knowledge the hunting season for doves ends on 15th of feb but still it was my final hunt for doves for this season thanks for update .

Is it confirmed? And which province's season are you talking about?

raja yasir
07-02-2012, 11:02 PM
what is your opinion on the dates

rajapaki
08-02-2012, 10:06 AM
Thanks brother Raja Yasir, I was in the area on last Saturday (4th Feb.) from 7:00PM till 12:00AM with my two friends. One of the friend was Experienced Hunter.
I personally liked very much your area which is consisting of green fields, small villages, farm houses and the river running behind all this beauty. I saw also lot of Jackals (almost in every field), wild cats and even a group of wild boars in one field near the river but we could not see the Rabbits. However, at that time we were having only one single barrel 12 gauge (Steven) gun and tried to chase the boars but they escaped somewhere in the ponds. We were reluctant too to fire in the area since we had no local contact.
Would you provide any type of help since it is your area??

raja yasir
08-02-2012, 11:54 AM
salam rajapaki bro,
yes the area is beautiful and full of wild life along the river bank there are alot of titar population as well,i have hunted a lot in this area and people in that area are aware of hunting activity but i have never used my shotgun in that area and also section 144 is imposed ,and the rabbit i found were very close to population ,i heard some shotgun fire from far while hunting but they were away from population.i do the boar hunts with my walther g22 only head shots because its a very quite .Any way let me know your next plane for hunt i be glad to assist you any way i can.

rajapaki
08-02-2012, 01:28 PM
Raja Yasir Bro,
Thanks for your kind offer and info about section 144. Actually currently I have only Shadow DX and Chinese Air Riffle without scope and lasers, still awaiting for Magnum 350 or 460 from Dubai. I am sure for Rabbit night hunt a good airgun, scope and laser is a must and I have to wait till the complete set is ready with me. However, it will be my pleasure to meet you and get something from your marvelous experience. Kindly send me your contact number on rajanasir@yahoo.com.
Regards, Raja Nasir

Birdshooter007
08-02-2012, 01:34 PM
what is your opinion on the dates


Hunting of ANY Animal is BANNED in ISLAMABAD CAPITAL TERRITORY except boars with permit.

In Punjab, Partridge season has ended, Duck season will still last some time.... and ALL SPECIES OF DOVE & PIGEON are BANNED since 3 YEARS. SAME with HARES, they have no season and are banned to hunt throughout the year.

shakeel durrani
08-02-2012, 02:15 PM
Did a camo job on my diana 35 what do you guys think
beautiful work dear!
can u tell me which paints u used,i mean brand u used with pics, if possible? also share the availability and price?
did u use 3 colors or more?

arsalan
08-02-2012, 02:51 PM
Dear rajayasir Bro, Could you please share the price of magnum 350 in pakistan and at alsayyad dubai too, as i want to purchase one. I do have a chinese but it does not work well which is almost 20 years old. OR you suggest which gun should i purchase for all type of games.

sajjadkhan
08-02-2012, 04:28 PM
Nice pics raja yasir. Good hunting.

raja yasir
08-02-2012, 05:50 PM
dear shakeel;
the camo on diana 36 is with camo tape witch cost about rs 2k from alsayad.and the camo on my diana 45 is done with paints american brand bought from gown house rawalpindi for 4.5k .

raja yasir
08-02-2012, 05:53 PM
Dear rajayasir Bro, Could you please share the price of magnum 350 in pakistan and at alsayyad dubai too, as i want to purchase one. I do have a chinese but it does not work well which is almost 20 years old. OR you suggest which gun should i purchase for all type of games.
Dear Arslan bro the last time i checked its price was 43k in saddar but its no longer available,and the price in dubai are same

Birdshooter007
08-02-2012, 05:58 PM
@arsalan

I have posted the phone number of Badruddin&Son RWP in my thread "RWS 350 fuerkraft Photos and Short Review". He had 350 magnum classics (the one I like better) for 40k/piece and DIANA RWS 460 magnum for 45k/piece. Better ring him up and confirm price&availability now because back then a few months ago he had alot of stock of DIANA airguns and BROWNING MAXUS.

raja yasir
08-02-2012, 10:11 PM
diana 350 magnum was available only the classic model was available which is not good for scope because the classic on does not have raised check .and secondly it is not accurate at all specially with locally available pellets .Seen a lot of disappointed people who buy this gun.you can fire accurately only with heavier good pellets and a lot of experience.

rajapaki
09-02-2012, 08:54 AM
Raja Yasir Bro,
Thanks for your kind offer and info about section 144. Actually currently I have only Shadow DX and Chinese Air Riffle without scope and lasers, still awaiting for Magnum 350 or 460 from Dubai. I am sure for Rabbit night hunt a good airgun, scope and laser is a must and I have to wait till the complete set is ready with me. However, it will be my pleasure to meet you and get something from your marvelous experience. Kindly send me your contact number on rajanasir@yahoo.com.
Regards, Raja Nasir

Dear Raja Yasir Bro; I think you forgot to reply about my request due to other posts replies :)

arsalan
09-02-2012, 09:20 AM
Dear Arslan bro the last time i checked its price was 43k in saddar but its no longer available,and the price in dubai are same

Thanks alot rajayasir bro, so you suggest me to purchase magnum 350 not the classic one am i right?

arsalan
09-02-2012, 09:22 AM
@arsalan

I have posted the phone number of Badruddin&Son RWP in my thread "RWS 350 fuerkraft Photos and Short Review". He had 350 magnum classics (the one I like better) for 40k/piece and DIANA RWS 460 magnum for 45k/piece. Better ring him up and confirm price&availability now because back then a few months ago he had alot of stock of DIANA airguns and BROWNING MAXUS.

Thanks chauhadry sb i will check both badruddin and your thread.

Birdshooter007
09-02-2012, 11:19 AM
@arsalan

I have posted the phone number of Badruddin&Son RWP in my thread "RWS 350 fuerkraft Photos and Short Review". He had 350 magnum classics (the one I like better) for 40k/piece and DIANA RWS 460 magnum for 45k/piece. Better ring him up and confirm price&availability now because back then a few months ago he had alot of stock of DIANA airguns and BROWNING MAXUS.


diana 350 magnum was available only the classic model was available which is not good for scope because the classic on does not have raised check .and secondly it is not accurate at all specially with locally available pellets .Seen a lot of disappointed people who buy this gun.you can fire accurately only with heavier good pellets and a lot of experience.
So that was available na, as you said 350 is not available, I was amazed as he had a huge stock and 350Fuerkraft is a 350.
Secondly ANY newer DIANA/RWS, Weihrauch/Beeman, CROSMAN, etc, ANY GOOD AIRGUN will NOT shoot accurately with ANY LOCALLY AVAILABLE PELLET which includes Afghani, Irani & all types of local pellets BECAUSE they are under-wight at just 7-8grains and not uniformly built, specially ALL TYPES OF LOCAL ones. Secondly every airgun will shoot best with a specific pellets be it of the same model, every single piece enjoys a different pellet the most.

I'd differ @ Diana 350 Fuerkraft not being good. I think it's the best 350. I just love the SLEEK, Long built of it. Lesser weight than the normal 350 and IT FEELS MUCH MUCH MUCH LIGHTER THAN THE CHUNKY 350M DUE TO SLEEK & LONG BUILT.
The raised cheek-piece was hurting my cheeks on the 350M, and I enjoy every shot of the 350F without harming myself. And @ all costs I avoid using Gamo pellets (the only int'l imported pellets available locally which everyone has, in recent times regarded as JUNK).

The gun is very very accurate. Infact more accurate than RWS/Diana's most selling model, the 34 (IT'S PROVEN).
You need to master the "Artillery hold" on any magnum springer to take full advantage of it's accuracy.

I think 13-15 grained pellets work the best with this airgun. They are not considered heavy but moderate. The gun is under-powered for heavy pellets like 'H&N Rabbit Magnum II'. Infact I don't think any springer out there can shoot those pellets accurately.

Having used both & taking account of personal experience, I rate this airgun at 10/10 and prefer it over the normal 350 magnum.

Here's a little comparison b/w the 350M & the 350F just to clear some doubts.

(1) They are literally THE SAME GUNS (Same powerplant)m but just in 2 different stocks.
(2) The 350M comes with a checkered stock with a raised cheekpiece which is the reason lefties have to resell their 350M's.
On the other hand, the 350F has a long, sleek stock with fien grains that makes the guns about (a quarter of a KG lighter) but the gun feels MUCH MUCH balanced and lighter.
(3) Power & Accuracy is THE SAME BECAUSE THEY'RE THE SAME THING.
(4) 350M has CHEAP iron sights opposed to 350F's quality, crisp Fiber Optics.

I'll leave it up-to you, I have not been disappointed by the 350. And the disappointed people are the ones without experience of this gun. It needs to be properly tuned to reduce recoil and make it accurate.

Use a good mount like the $100 Theoben Dampa mounts, and literally any scope of good make would do. Or RWS 1 piece lockdown mounts would do good at a much less price.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 11:33 AM
ch sahab agree with you mostly but raised cheek is necessary for accurate shooting with scope,other wise its a nice airgun.

Birdshooter007
09-02-2012, 11:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC_ijJsQMU8

Watch from 5:00 to 6:05. Grouped well scoped ( A classic).
Though the shooter could have been better.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 12:19 PM
bro i am giving you first hand knowledge from personal experience have seen all these paramid air videos long time ago, this kind of grouping at that distance is no problem even with out scope.

Birdshooter007
09-02-2012, 12:41 PM
Ok bro check this video, not filmed by pyramidair, umarex, airgundepot, bla bla...But a shooter himself. Not the usual 5 shot groups but 10 shot groups which increase the rate of error X2. 3/4 inch group @25 yards with a scoped 350 without a raised cheek piece. Not that's the best group man!!!!!
Watch from 7:00 till 11:00 if just interested in the group.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aVQikJppt8

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 12:44 PM
diana 45 is my only gun with out raised cheek and it was giving trouble with scope just like your gun until i got this high single piece mount from uk.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 12:48 PM
seen this one two this gun has a high one piece mount as well ,plus he has installed a tune kit ,so you should get my point.

Birdshooter007
09-02-2012, 12:50 PM
My gun was having trouble without scope & with Gamo pellets, which upon inspection I found out to be highly defective and posted a review on PG. Later read on many forums that Gamo pellets mostly suck sh*t.
I DID NOT HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE SCOPE ON. Infact I just got the scope a few days earlier and haven't even mounted it on.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 12:53 PM
personally i like low scope for hunting its easy to use high scopes have to much variation at different distances and you have to remember them but then you got to have exact idea of your targets distance.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 12:56 PM
bro scope can be zeroed with any pellet if you have enough experience .

Birdshooter007
09-02-2012, 12:57 PM
seen this one two this gun has a high one piece mount as well ,plus he has installed a tune kit ,so you should get my point.
Let me tell you that ONE-PIECE MOUNTS ARE A MUST FOR ALL MAGNUM SPRINGERS, be it Diana 54s, Diana 350/460s, Weihrauch HW80s, Beeman Kodiaks, and so on. And they are very common. SO One-Piece mounts are no issue I believe.

I believe first you were talking about the 350F being in-accurate with a scope as it doesn't have a RAISED CHEECKPIECE. Now you have started a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. Be it a tuning kit, HE DOES HAVE A SCOPE ON HIS GUN & HE IS SHOOTING V.V ACCURATELY and this is what we were discussing. Plus the tuning kit I believe wasn't used on the gun tested by Pyramidair out of box.
So the raised chee kpiece discussion is not to be related with having a tuning kit as you said you can't shoot accurately with a scoped gun without a cheek-piece.

The point has been cleared on my behalf.

Birdshooter007
09-02-2012, 01:00 PM
diana 350 magnum was available only the classic model was available which is not good for scope because the classic on does not have raised check .and secondly it is not accurate at all specially with locally available pellets .Seen a lot of disappointed people who buy this gun.you can fire accurately only with heavier good pellets and a lot of experience.
This is what I'm talking about. Tuning kits are nowhere mentioned earlier, and are not and issue.

ch sahab agree with you mostly but raised cheek is necessary for accurate shooting with scope,other wise its a nice airgun.


Let me tell you that ONE-PIECE MOUNTS ARE A MUST FOR ALL MAGNUM SPRINGERS, be it Diana 54s, Diana 350/460s, Weihrauch HW80s, Beeman Kodiaks, and so on. And they are very common. SO One-Piece mounts are no issue I believe.

I believe first you were talking about the 350F being in-accurate with a scope as it doesn't have a RAISED CHEECKPIECE. Now you have started a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION. Be it a tuning kit, HE DOES HAVE A SCOPE ON HIS GUN & HE IS SHOOTING V.V ACCURATELY and this is what we were discussing. Plus the tuning kit I believe wasn't used on the gun tested by Pyramidair out of box.
So the raised chee kpiece discussion is not to be related with having a tuning kit as you said you can't shoot accurately with a scoped gun without a cheek-piece.

The point has been cleared on my behalf.


seen this one two this gun has a high one piece mount as well ,plus he has installed a tune kit ,so you should get my point.

Birdshooter007
09-02-2012, 01:03 PM
bro scope can be zeroed with any pellet if you have enough experience .
I beg to differ. I think not with Gamo Pro magnums, Gamo PBAs, so on.
As one pellet will be diverging 1/2 a foot above the center, the next 3/4 a foot beneath, the forth randomly appearing somewhere GOD knows where.
IMO Every pellet has to be zeroed with the scope if you're going hunting.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 01:05 PM
this discussion is for guys who mostly want to buy locally available stuff so keeping that in mind there is an easy option got these mounts with stopper and double nut they work really well if installed properly it costs 500 rs from super market.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 01:08 PM
bro i have come to know a way to zero scope with out using a single pellet.

gunenthusiast
09-02-2012, 01:17 PM
raja yasir sb,
you have installed nice scopes. where did you get these and for how much?

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 01:17 PM
Let me explain the pellet should go up or down according to its weight and you already have a high mount ,then you just have to remember the difference at various distances and keep them in mind while hunting.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 01:21 PM
raja yasir sb,
you have installed nice scopes. where did you get these and for how much?
Thanks bro
Two of them are from uk and others are local purchase for pindi ana isl

sajjadkhan
09-02-2012, 01:29 PM
@rajayasir bro can you please give me the price idea of Diana 36. Beacuase I am planning to buy one.

rajapaki
09-02-2012, 01:33 PM
Raja Yasir Bro; Finally which airgun do you prefer for me to get from Al-Sayyad which should be reliable, durable, long range with good accuracy. Personally I like to have a gun with both options i.e, aiming and telescopic.
What about Diana 54 Airking, 56th, 350 or 460 magnum.
Can I get also the scope, spot light and laser from Al-Sayyad. I will appreciate if you could advise the make/model of these things if available with Al-Sayyad. If not, what are the shops in pindi/Isb from where I can get.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 02:08 PM
Raja Yasir Bro; Finally which airgun do you prefer for me to get from Al-Sayyad which should be reliable, durable, long range with good accuracy. Personally I like to have a gun with both options i.e, aiming and telescopic.
What about Diana 54 Airking, 56th, 350 or 460 magnum.
Can I get also the scope, spot light and laser from Al-Sayyad. I will appreciate if you could advise the make/model of these things if available with Al-Sayyad. If not, what are the shops in pindi/Isb from where I can get.
Bro if you can afford then the best gun will be 54 because 56 has only scope option.Last week they only had 54 in stock at alsayad .56 was not available. and a single piece diana mount for 54 will be a good option,i have asked a friend to give me info on scopes they have might get it in couple of days.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 02:13 PM
@rajayasir bro can you please give me the price idea of Diana 36. Beacuase I am planning to buy one.
My 36 is 1988 model got it in 1990 from duty free blue area,never saw this model in market recently only on some websites ,35 is the exact same gun as 36 same inside out it is available in pindi for 32k.

arsalan
09-02-2012, 02:16 PM
Dear Rajayasir and Chaudhary Bro. I want to share my personal experience with both of you.

I had a chinese gun some 20 years ago when i was in 5 grade, the gun had a manufacturing fault of hiting the target up 3 to 5 inches and at righ side. after purchase i could not hunt even a sparrow for the next 02 montths at that time i was very upset because i transfered my self rom 'GHULAIL' to an airgun. and when, then i got its idea that it was hitiing in the manner which i disclosed. after that i used to place the mount below 03 inches and at left of the target and a time came when i hunt 16 starllings in 16 shots in 30 minutes hunt.

In my opinion it varies from person to person and likings too, that some feel comfortable with cheek up stock and some straight.

AND THE PERSONS LIKE US ADJUST THEMSLEVES ACCORDING TO THE SITUATION.....LOL

arsalan
09-02-2012, 02:26 PM
despite everything it was very good, informative and a full of knowledge discussion between both of you. THANS A LOT.

rajapaki
09-02-2012, 02:41 PM
Thank you Raja Yasir Bro, any idea about price of 54 model in UAE Dirhams @ Al-Sayyad.

raja yasir
09-02-2012, 07:32 PM
i have heard its 2000dh in dubai

rajapaki
10-02-2012, 09:07 AM
i have heard its 2000dh in dubai

Raja Yasir Bro; its my BAD LUCK, one of my friend visited Al-Sayyad last evening with my confirmation to buy 1 x Diana 54 Airking, 1 piece mount of Gamo for 54 model and Gamo scope with 4 spare boxes of different pellets. The complete package was around Dhs. 2500/= with all discounts. During the discussion my friend came to know that it is not allowed to take the airguns from Abu-Dhabi and Sharjah Airports except Dubai Airport. So my friend called at the same time to one of his relative at Dubai Airport and he said also that Dubai Airport authorities banned also the transportation of Airguns from Dubai. So all of my efforts has gone to garbage now since another friend was coming to ISB in tonight flight by Emirates Airline :(
HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED

Further Info; carrying a hunting knife more than 4" blade is also banned now from Dubai.

Birdshooter007
10-02-2012, 09:18 AM
Feel sad for you.. but how can this be??? Just 3-4 days ago a person got me pellets from AL-Sayad. (He asked someone to buy them from there and post them to Pak through some courier).

Birdshooter007
10-02-2012, 09:20 AM
@rajapaki

Please post your email address for a moment.

rajapaki
10-02-2012, 09:29 AM
@rajapaki

Please post your email address for a moment.

rajanasir@yahoo.com

rajapaki
10-02-2012, 11:25 AM
Feel sad for you.. but how can this be??? Just 3-4 days ago a person got me pellets from AL-Sayad. (He asked someone to buy them from there and post them to Pak through some courier).

It is possible to bring pellet boxes or small knives in the booked luggage specially when you are traveling with the family.

raja yasir
10-02-2012, 12:19 PM
Thats bad news ,a guy just got his air gun from dubai 12 or 15 days ago he had no problems.lets hope your other friend finds a way.

raja yasir
10-02-2012, 12:22 PM
ch saab,
witch pellets you got from dubai ,reply with pics.

raja yasir
10-02-2012, 12:36 PM
My brother is comming on 26th from uk ,Guys help me choose between these.
1.jsb diablo exact jumbo
2.preditor polymag
3.rws superpoint
4.prometheus leadfree
5.skenko heavy long range
6.thunder bolt
7.hn hunter
8.hn baracuda green leadfree
these are the ones that i decided from knowledge got from net about availability in uk.not shore about availability no 2 and number 5 pellet in the list.Advice guys which ones should i get more .

rajapaki
10-02-2012, 03:52 PM
Dear Raja Yasir Bro; Quickly please advise whether Diana 54 is better or HW80, I found another source to bring it to PK.

Birdshooter007
10-02-2012, 06:33 PM
ch saab,
witch pellets you got from dubai ,reply with pics.

Diana Magnum 500 pellet tin from the same guy :) And no pics because don't have a camera right now.


And all the (8) pellets you have mentioned are a cream of the best ones.
I advise you.. ummm.. JSB's, Predator Polymags & RWS Superpoints.

Birdshooter007
10-02-2012, 06:34 PM
Dear Raja Yasir Bro; Quickly please advise whether Diana 54 is better or HW80, I found another source to bring it to PK.

This is the same source me and raja yasir are familiar with ;D... lol.
Diana 54 Airking is better IMO.

rajapaki
10-02-2012, 06:59 PM
This is the same source me and raja yasir are familiar with ;D... lol.
Diana 54 Airking is better IMO.

Yes you are right :)

Birdshooter007
10-02-2012, 07:48 PM
rajapaki Sb, this might be of your interest;
http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?5986-Review-Diana-Air-King-54&highlight=Fluffmaster
And
see post #59 http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?5511-air-gun-hunting/page3

rajapaki
10-02-2012, 08:23 PM
rajapaki Sb, this might be of your interest;
http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?5986-Review-Diana-Air-King-54&highlight=Fluffmaster
And
see post #59 http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?5511-air-gun-hunting/page3

Thank you brother

raja yasir
10-02-2012, 09:37 PM
Diana Magnum 500 pellet tin from the same guy :) And no pics because don't have a camera right now.


And all the (8) pellets you have mentioned are a cream of the best ones.
I advise you.. ummm.. JSB's, Predator Polymags & RWS Superpoints.
ya i got another pack as well plus got these gamo magnums from him because there quality looked very good so tried them today and they are giving same groupings as diana magnums but only in my mod 36.

shakeel durrani
10-02-2012, 11:13 PM
Raja Yasir Bro; its my BAD LUCK, one of my friend visited Al-Sayyad last evening with my confirmation to buy 1 x Diana 54 Airking, 1 piece mount of Gamo for 54 model and Gamo scope with 4 spare boxes of different pellets. The complete package was around Dhs. 2500/= with all discounts. During the discussion my friend came to know that it is not allowed to take the airguns from Abu-Dhabi and Sharjah Airports except Dubai Airport. So my friend called at the same time to one of his relative at Dubai Airport and he said also that Dubai Airport authorities banned also the transportation of Airguns from Dubai. So all of my efforts has gone to garbage now since another friend was coming to ISB in tonight flight by Emirates Airline :(
HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED

Further Info; carrying a hunting knife more than 4" blade is also banned now from Dubai.
is it confirm now that airguns r not allowed in checked in luggage?
plz some body confirm!

raja yasir
10-02-2012, 11:44 PM
i dont think so because a guy just got a hw80 from dubai recently .

rajapaki
11-02-2012, 09:44 AM
Raja Yasir Bro; Yesterday I took same knife as yours from Super Market @ 1100/= to add it in my hunting kit. Its good knife but an experienced Pashtoon friend declared them Chinese :)

Birdshooter007
11-02-2012, 11:10 AM
is it confirm now that airguns r not allowed in checked in luggage?
plz some body confirm!


i dont think so because a guy just got a hw80 from dubai recently .
Yes I think some cranky airport officer made this witty remark on the phone, Dubai Airport is so huge&popular why would they do something like this?

Birdshooter007
11-02-2012, 11:14 AM
@raja yasir

I have permanently said "NO" to ALL GAMO pellets.
And I'll check the Diana magnum's groupings today, but I'll be in a better position to comment once I have attached the scope. DID you buy another tin of Diana Magnums from him? Did they prove successful in your hunt lately? Because sometime ago you were disappointed by their in-field capabilities. I found the good on pigeons.

Laino
11-02-2012, 11:14 AM
Got it from super market for 2.5k


Raja Yasir bro you paid an extra 1800 for this dagger. I bought it in 700 from Lahore.

Birdshooter007
11-02-2012, 11:26 AM
Raja Yasir bro you paid an extra 1800 for this dagger. I bought it in 700 from Lahore.

Ohhhhhh.... that's a robbery :)

rajapaki
11-02-2012, 12:30 PM
Ohhhhhh.... that's a robbery :)

Yeah, It is a robbery, big difference in LHR and ISB prices :)

rajapaki
11-02-2012, 12:34 PM
Raja Yasir Bro; which scope and mount are you using for Mod.56th ?

raja yasir
11-02-2012, 10:37 PM
@raja yasir

I have permanently said "NO" to ALL GAMO pellets.
And I'll check the Diana magnum's groupings today, but I'll be in a better position to comment once I have attached the scope. DID you buy another tin of Diana Magnums from him? Did they prove successful in your hunt lately? Because sometime ago you were disappointed by their in-field capabilities. I found the good on pigeons.
ch sahab as i mentioned earlier that there is a pellet for every gun ,strange but this box of gamo magnums looks to have better quality pellets working very well in my 36 shoot both at 100 feet both were spot on same hole and no difference in zero,in my 35 not working well diana magnums are well in this gun,in my 56 they are going one meldot to the left but going on the same spot .i will test them both at 100 yard then update you for my final result.(you know how expensive we get these pellets should look for cheaper alternative if these work cause used my last 500 pack in less then 20 days)

raja yasir
11-02-2012, 10:39 PM
Raja Yasir bro you paid an extra 1800 for this dagger. I bought it in 700 from Lahore.
Is it exact same brand and size bro ,post pics.

Birdshooter007
11-02-2012, 10:52 PM
I'll still not use Gamo.
BTW did you get another Diana magnum tin from him? Were you successful in-field (hunting) with these, or used up all 500 punching paper and plinking?

Birdshooter007
11-02-2012, 10:54 PM
I shot about 30 pellets today, groups were better than other pellets I commonly use..(I'm talking about Diana Magnums)
But as I said earlier, I'll be in a better position to comment once I use the scope.

raja yasir
12-02-2012, 02:13 AM
i did most of my hunting this season with gamo hunters they were quite close in accuracy with diana magnums but they are not available in market ,plus due to its narrow front as compared to diana magnums they had more penetration,I use a lot of pellets on punching paper cause i got 5 airguns and love to target practice when ever i get time.And last hunt keeping in mind the pellets i took only head and wings shoots at birds due to its good accuracy the hunt was really successful and also got my last two rabbits with these pellets as well.

raja yasir
12-02-2012, 11:30 AM
Went to korang first thing in the morning it was raining but there was a lot of movement saw a flock of gray ducks but they were very vigilant didn't gave me chance to shoot then got this bird at 100 yard,do let me know about this bird.

raja yasir
12-02-2012, 11:49 AM
its a double-crested cormorant is it halal .

Birdshooter007
12-02-2012, 12:07 PM
Don't know if it's halal, but wouldn't eat a cormorant..And what are grey ducks? Are you talking about coots? I know a spot where coots come as close as about 50 yards, but don't have a scope right now so didn't try shooting one.

raja yasir
12-02-2012, 12:39 PM
i think they were ruddy ducks,dont think i am going to eat this ,shot it cause it looked like goose while flying and couldn't see clearly in my scope at 100 yard due to rain.but its a good spot for ducks and it was my first visit will make better strategy next time.Do let me know about your spot if its near we can arrange a combined hunt if your exams are over.

Birdshooter007
12-02-2012, 12:43 PM
i think they were ruddy ducks,dont think i am going to eat this ,shot it cause it looked like goose while flying and couldn't see clearly in my scope at 100 yard due to rain.but its a good spot for ducks and it was my first visit will make better strategy next time.Do let me know about your spot if its near we can arrange a combined hunt if your exams are over.
Still having exams, and I told you about the spot on your email address earlier. It's coot-rich.

arsalan
13-02-2012, 09:17 AM
RAJAYASIR bro it is sea crow they are in abundance at tarbela Lake and are migrated birds, though some people hunt it. its meat has bad odour. We donot like it.

sajjadkhan
13-02-2012, 10:40 AM
Still having exams, and I told you about the spot on your email address earlier. It's coot-rich.
Best of luck for your exams. We will be waiting to see you in action.

rajapaki
14-02-2012, 10:43 AM
Chaudhry Bro; When your Exams are going to be ended?

rajapaki
14-02-2012, 10:46 AM
Raja Yasir Bro; Can we make a program gtg for Rabbit Hunt @ Japan Road with my Gamo Shadow DX and Chinese B3 :) ?

raja yasir
14-02-2012, 11:03 AM
Raja Yasir Bro; Can we make a program gtg for Rabbit Hunt @ Japan Road with my Gamo Shadow DX and Chinese B3 :) ?
Shore rajapaki bro but not with these two guns did you notice the size of these rabbits they are not little bunnies they need real power and energy to go down its not right to wound them i advice you to wait till you get the new gun until then we can make plane with my guns soon ,i am more interested in waterfowl hunting .

rajapaki
14-02-2012, 11:18 AM
Shore rajapaki bro but not with these two guns did you notice the size of these rabbits they are not little bunnies they need real power and energy to go down its not right to wound them i advice you to wait till you get the new gun until then we can make plane with my guns soon ,i am more interested in waterfowl hunting .

Thanks for your valuable advise, yes it is not fair just to hurt them with these guns. Hopefully I will get the new gun soon.
But just for the information, If I install a scope on my Gamo DX. Will it still be not useful for these Rabbits.

Birdshooter007
14-02-2012, 02:53 PM
Chaudhry Bro; When your Exams are going to be ended?
Late June.

raja yasir
14-02-2012, 03:34 PM
rajapaki bro
as i have mentioned earlier i also have a gamo whisper x which is not much used i have given a review on that gun earlier ,can get doves at very short distance if you hit it at the right place up to 120 feet and when i went to hunt with it mounted a good scope and hurt a lot of things that got away thats why i tried pointed pellets in the gun but they are accurate at 50 feet at 100 feet not so good.

raja yasir
14-02-2012, 03:35 PM
Late June.
Realy thats a long way

rajapaki
14-02-2012, 03:54 PM
rajapaki bro
as i have mentioned earlier i also have a gamo whisper x which is not much used i have given a review on that gun earlier ,can get doves at very short distance if you hit it at the right place up to 120 feet and when i went to hunt with it mounted a good scope and hurt a lot of things that got away thats why i tried pointed pellets in the gun but they are accurate at 50 feet at 100 feet not so good.

Ok Brother; so there is no way out with these guns except to have at least Diana Mod.34.

Birdshooter007
14-02-2012, 03:55 PM
Realy thats a long way

Yes, but I'll go dove hunting again after a couple of days/weeks, and maybe for a coot.

rajapaki
14-02-2012, 03:55 PM
Late June.

Hmm too long :)

rajapaki
14-02-2012, 03:58 PM
Yes, but I'll go dove hunting again after a couple of days/weeks, and maybe for a coot.

But dear dove hunting season is over now :)
I saw few eggs in female dove stomach last week and now stopped dove hunting till oct.

Birdshooter007
14-02-2012, 04:00 PM
But dear dove hunting season is over now :)
I saw few eggs in female dove stomach last week and now stopped dove hunting till oct.
What season? There is no season in Islamabad, in Punjab dove & pigeon hunting (off all kind) has been banned since 3 years, same with hares.. so currently Hare season is also over.
I'll go somewhere else.
And all unfair laws for common hunters like me, rest enjoy 10-10 chinkaras at a time ;)

raja yasir
14-02-2012, 05:04 PM
morally every hunters should not kill birds in breeding season ,and hunting in islamabad is banned due to security risk not for wildlife preservation ,they are destroying wildlife habitats.

Birdshooter007
14-02-2012, 05:42 PM
+1

You should not kill in breeding season, thus it'll be the last hunt for a couple of months. Yes hunting in Islamabad is banned due to wildlife preservation-Kaleej Pheasants are rare, Hares are diminishing by the day... whatever the reason may be, WHAT IS WRONG IS WRONG. That's like breaking a traffic signal saying "I can easily make it, the cars were coming slow" or whatever.

And according to the PG hunting section rules, members are not allowed to indulge in this kind of discussions. Off course I see people posting pic on PG, almost all... 2 shooters, 68 ducks or 3 shooters... 47 partridges whereas the limit is 6/shooter.
Whatever they may say on forums, I KNOW, whenever any hunter gets a chance he does it (Generally speaking).

rajapaki
15-02-2012, 09:09 AM
Dear Chauhadry & RajaYasir Bros; Yes you are right, we should be law abiding citizens of Pakistan in all means. We should not kill any bird or animal if law does not allow us. But we know our people and their mentality :). One of my hunter friend always says that his blood pressure always become up and down when he sees any target for hunt :tongue:

shakeel durrani
15-02-2012, 09:39 AM
if any one knows pellet prices in dubai for different brands,diana,gamo,jsb etc

rajapaki
15-02-2012, 10:00 AM
if any one knows pellet prices in dubai for different brands,diana,gamo,jsb etc

Brother; you may call directly Al-Sayyad Dubai on Tel: 00971-4-2247900 and they will give you all the info.

raja yasir
15-02-2012, 11:26 AM
if any one knows pellet prices in dubai for different brands,diana,gamo,jsb etc
we are getting them from a guy who imports them from dubai.

raja yasir
15-02-2012, 11:47 AM
Dear Chauhadry & RajaYasir Bros; Yes you are right, we should be law abiding citizens of Pakistan in all means. We should not kill any bird or animal if law does not allow us. But we know our people and their mentality :). One of my hunter friend always says that his blood pressure always become up and down when he sees any target for hunt :tongue:
rajapaki bro tell your friend that he should control his blood pressure to become successful in hunting specially with airgun.I have bad experience with guys who get exited after seeing the target.

raja yasir
15-02-2012, 07:07 PM
Here are the list of things i ordered from uk
1.hawke sport hd 4-12x50 ao ir scope
2.Cronograph
3.Rws superpoint tin of 500
4.crossman pointed pellets tin of 500
5.crossman hollow point tin of 500
6.prometheus pellets 5 tin x 100
hopefully arrive on 26th of this month

Birdshooter007
15-02-2012, 07:13 PM
Nice, keep us updated with the performance of all this stuff once you receive it. And how much was the Chrono & Scope for?

raja yasir
15-02-2012, 08:04 PM
around 100 pound for scope and 45 for chrony.next time looking to get a range finder as well.

Birdshooter007
15-02-2012, 08:49 PM
100 pounds=14,000 rupees.. quite costly with just 4-12X zoom and quite bulky if its X50AO.

BTW you do have a rangefinder in your TASCO right? Does that work fine?

raja yasir
15-02-2012, 10:55 PM
100 pounds=14,000 rupees.. quite costly with just 4-12X zoom and quite bulky if its X50AO.

BTW you do have a rangefinder in your TASCO right? Does that work fine?
the one i realy like is hawkes 6-20x50 side winder it costs around 380 pounds ,but its not for spring airguns its really good with pcps ,this one is hd and specially designed for spring airguns .
the range finder in the scope is to estimate the distance ,but the real distance of the target in long range shooting can only be known by a range finder.

raja yasir
15-02-2012, 11:02 PM
another way of range estimation is in side winder scopes as in my leupold the image of the target clears only when you adjust objective to the targets range and it tells you the range of your target.

Birdshooter007
15-02-2012, 11:10 PM
I like Bushnell Rangefinders.

raja yasir
15-02-2012, 11:17 PM
I like Bushnell Rangefinders.
any will do as long as it tells you the actual distance quick and easy plus the price factor,the ones used for golf are cheap but don't know if they are good for hunting.

rajapaki
16-02-2012, 09:31 AM
Nice and informative sharing for beginners from RajaYasir and Chauhadry Bros.

shakeel durrani
16-02-2012, 03:59 PM
we are getting them from a guy who imports them from dubai.
thats great,what pellets in rws and gamo r available with him in 177cal and what r prices,any contact details of the guy?

raja yasir
16-02-2012, 04:51 PM
thats great,what pellets in rws and gamo r available with him in 177cal and what r prices,any contact details of the guy?
ch and me we are getting them from him but he has only 22cal available might get them by placing order

Birdshooter007
16-02-2012, 06:50 PM
Contact details???
First ask MODS for permission... he got BANNED 5 times, every time he posted sale offers and his email :nod:

rajapaki
24-02-2012, 02:12 PM
@RajaYasir

Raja Sahib where are you ?
No Chitchat these days.

raja yasir
24-02-2012, 09:47 PM
@RajaYasir

Raja Sahib where are you ?
No Chitchat these days.
rajapaki bro
Janab where can i go, just didn't had any hunting activity for the past week ,where are you,did you get any gun yet.

raja yasir
24-02-2012, 11:44 PM
Today i got Diana point pellets they are working great in my diana 56 .

rajapaki
25-02-2012, 09:15 AM
rajapaki bro
Janab where can i go, just didn't had any hunting activity for the past week ,where are you,did you get any gun yet.

Thanks God, at least you came back and started the discussions.
Re to the airgun; Nahin bhai not yet purchased the gun and delayed till Sept./Oct as you know the hunting season is off now.
Currently busy for some other projects to get the arms license :)

shakeel durrani
25-02-2012, 10:21 PM
@rajayasir
congrats and have fun with this premier line of pellets and accessories!

any idea about that news that airguns r not being allowed in checked baggage from dubai?
i m visiting next month and planning to buy a diana air gun!

shakeel durrani
25-02-2012, 10:24 PM
if these r still allowed then which one u will suggest to buy,budget around 1500 drms!
and ch bro what about your experience with leapers scope,does it holds zero on diana 350?

Birdshooter007
25-02-2012, 10:52 PM
Read in almost all reviews that it holds the zero of the 350, but still not experienced myself... The scope was delivered to me, but the carrier forgot to bring the mount (RWS Lockdown 1 piece) so will have to wait more now, all the effort gone to vain. Maybe I'll get the mount from Baksh Ellahee the next time I visit LHE for purchasing my .22LR, but it's too costly there (7500 rupees).

raja yasir
25-02-2012, 11:57 PM
Yar two airguns came from Dubai With my pellets and cleaning kit two days ago.So i am 100% that they are allowed.

shakeel durrani
26-02-2012, 01:10 PM
Yar two airguns came from Dubai With my pellets and cleaning kit two days ago.So i am 100% that they are allowed.
well thats nice to hear!
i heard that u just need to show the original receipt of alsayad or seller and they let it go in checked baggage!
so i guess no paper work is required on both sides dubai&pak? and any input on gun packing etc to avoid headache,or i just need to carry it in its original diana card-board/paper packing?

shakeel durrani
26-02-2012, 01:16 PM
Read in almost all reviews that it holds the zero of the 350, but still not experienced myself... The scope was delivered to me, but the carrier forgot to bring the mount (RWS Lockdown 1 piece) so will have to wait more now, all the effort gone to vain. Maybe I'll get the mount from Baksh Ellahee the next time I visit LHE for purchasing my .22LR, but it's too costly there (7500 rupees).
so u will b really desperate to check it on your 350!
i had few concerns about leapers as it is made in china but that too cant be a concern if quality is good as US is getting most of their accessories through china!

and BTW which 22lr u r getting,brand and price?

shahid ssclub
26-02-2012, 03:38 PM
hi, i am new to this forum, any one can tel me any PCP available in pakistan, please comment

Birdshooter007
26-02-2012, 04:31 PM
so u will b really desperate to check it on your 350!
i had few concerns about leapers as it is made in china but that too cant be a concern if quality is good as US is getting most of their accessories through china!

and BTW which 22lr u r getting,brand and price?
Leapers 5th Gen Scopes are real good value for money, as good as it gets.. and fully recoil proof. However some pieces might be defected, i don't know.
I want a BRNO Model 2/CZ455, don't have any update on price & availability, but should be somewhere b/w 50k-65k. (Applied for the license, WAITING)

hi, i am new to this forum, any one can tel me any PCP available in pakistan, please comment
No, not available.

shahid ssclub
26-02-2012, 04:42 PM
chaudhry sahib, can u tel me about any pcp airgun in pakistan avialabe
please reply

shahid ssclub
26-02-2012, 04:45 PM
and can u tel me how to lubricate diana 350 magnum which part is necessary to be oiling pleae reply

shahid ssclub
26-02-2012, 04:53 PM
thanks chaudry sahib for reply, do u know the leapers 5th generation avialable here, i ordered to prymadair on line but they just e mail me that they cant ship it to pakistan

Birdshooter007
26-02-2012, 04:56 PM
chaudhry sahib, can u tel me about any pcp airgun in pakistan avialabe
please reply
I already said "They ARE NOT AVAILABLE".

Use NASA Rust-o-Nil spray available with arms dealers. Spray it on all metal parts, just don't spray it inside barrel or piston seal or whatever it is adjacent to the barrel.. Then use a cloth to distribute it evenly. After 500 shots, just insert 2-3 drops of some RWS lubricant inside the barrel, and spread evenly with a .22 cal rod.

And LEAPERS Scopes are not available in Pakistan, and Pyramdair or any other similar websites don't ship to PK IMO.

shahid ssclub
26-02-2012, 04:59 PM
Leapers 5th Gen Scopes are real good value for money, as good as it gets.. and fully recoil proof. However some pieces might be defected, i don't know.
I want a BRNO Model 2/CZ455, don't have any update on price & availability, but should be somewhere b/w 50k-65k.

No, not available.

can u tel me how can i get leaers 5th generation in pakistan any idia

Birdshooter007
26-02-2012, 05:00 PM
No, No idea.

shahid ssclub
26-02-2012, 05:02 PM
ok thanks for your reply sir, if u intreted in berno , its avaiallbe here in peshawar for 6k, i have the new model 452m cz nice rifle,

Birdshooter007
26-02-2012, 06:22 PM
6k???????????????? WHAT????????? 6000 RUPEES
Are you sure? Is it original, is it in good condition. because i have known it to be 50k+ nowadays, 6k is like buying it free, even the license costed 11k excluding other charges.

raja yasir
26-02-2012, 08:47 PM
today i went to rawal dam no ducks but got 5 of these birds.Tell me about this bird

Birdshooter007
26-02-2012, 11:17 PM
Some sort of snipe I guess.

arsalan
27-02-2012, 09:41 AM
today i went to rawal dam no ducks but got 5 of these birds.Tell me about this bird

In our local language it is called "TEW" or "TATEEREE" in Haripur.

It is Halal

arsalan
27-02-2012, 09:44 AM
I checked from AL-SAYYAD, price of DIANA Magnum 350 1,785 DHS final with scope.

My brother will bring it to pakistan next month INSHAALLA

raja yasir
27-02-2012, 10:26 AM
Camouflage may enable snipe to remain undetected by hunters in marshland. If the snipe flies, hunters have difficulty estimating a correct aiming lead for the bird's erratic flight pattern. The difficulties involved in hunting snipe gave rise to the term “sniper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sniper),” referring to a skilled anti-personnel military sharpshooter.

Birdshooter007
27-02-2012, 11:10 AM
In our local language it is called "TEW" or "TATEEREE" in Haripur.

It is Halal
Yes Snipes are HALAL, as well as Tateeri... this is what tateeri (red-wattled lapwing) looks like:
http://www.google.com.pk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.haryana-online.com/images/Birds/Rajiv/RedWattledLapwing.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.haryana-online.com/fauna/birds/red_wattled_lapwing.htm&h=601&w=686&sz=54&tbnid=49h4K5LC4G_oXM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=103&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dred%2Bwattled%2Blapwing%26tbm%3Disch% 26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=red+wattled+lapwing&docid=Bw-sBtU5qS3WHM&sa=X&ei=KixLT8iACcS8rAfpqfjHDw&ved=0CEQQ9QEwAw&dur=644


I checked from AL-SAYYAD, price of DIANA Magnum 350 1,785 DHS final with scope.

My brother will bring it to pakistan next month INSHAALLA
Congrats.

raja yasir
27-02-2012, 09:20 PM
Yes Snipes are HALAL, as well as Tateeri... this is what tateeri (red-wattled lapwing) looks like:
http://www.google.com.pk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.haryana-online.com/images/Birds/Rajiv/RedWattledLapwing.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.haryana-online.com/fauna/birds/red_wattled_lapwing.htm&h=601&w=686&sz=54&tbnid=49h4K5LC4G_oXM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=103&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dred%2Bwattled%2Blapwing%26tbm%3Disch% 26tbo%3Du&zoom=1&q=red+wattled+lapwing&docid=Bw-sBtU5qS3WHM&sa=X&ei=KixLT8iACcS8rAfpqfjHDw&ved=0CEQQ9QEwAw&dur=644


Congrats.
What are you saying that Tateeri is halal i dont think so.there were like 1000 of them there and they are so easy to shoot then the snipes.If its halal how does it taste.

Birdshooter007
27-02-2012, 09:26 PM
What are you saying that Tateeri is halal i dont think so.there were like 1000 of them there and they are so easy to shoot then the snipes.If its halal how does it taste.
We have already discussed the "HALAL-ANCE" of Red-Wattled Lapwing/Plover/Tateeri in another thread a few months ago;
I have heard from 8/10 people that Tateeri is HALAL so I regard it as HALAL. BAGHLA is HARAM, 8/10 people I know regard it as HARAM. ALLAH knows better, do whatever you feel like. I had Tateeri Pulao, the meat had strong wild meat smell, probably because it was still soaked with blood.
http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?4576-birds-pictures-with-names/page10&highlight=cormorant
Did you eat these snipes? How did they taste?

raja yasir
27-02-2012, 09:50 PM
I made a deal with my hunting partner that ducks will be mine and he could have the snipes before the hunt ,unlucky for me we did not see any ducks,then we went for rabbit hunt but the crops are too high didn't find any rabbits as well.

Birdshooter007
27-02-2012, 10:03 PM
Which side were you hunting from, and on boat or from the boundary land?

raja yasir
27-02-2012, 11:27 PM
banigala side car goes to a nice lake side and it can move around as well its a muddy path.

raja yasir
29-02-2012, 09:41 PM
Got my stuff from uk today

Birdshooter007
29-02-2012, 09:43 PM
Congrats, where's the chrono?

raja yasir
29-02-2012, 10:00 PM
i asked my bro to bring the small crono which is easy to carry ,but the shop keeper in uk told my bro that it is not accurate and the bigger one costs 350 pound .so decided not to buy that.

s.cheema
29-02-2012, 11:53 PM
congrats on the new things

Birdshooter007
01-03-2012, 09:24 AM
Didn't you get RWS super-points or Predator Polymags. And what color are the Prometheus pellets in the black boxes?

raja yasir
01-03-2012, 11:55 AM
Didn't you get RWS super-points or Predator Polymags. And what color are the Prometheus pellets in the black boxes?
already have the diana points and Predator polymags are discontinued.and prometheus pellets are in yellow color.

shakeel durrani
02-03-2012, 05:56 PM
@raja
congrats for the latest arrivals!
is there any restriction or paperwork required to carry pellets from USA and UK?
how u got these?