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Umair Bhaur
29-11-2011, 11:43 AM
Dear All,

I am once again here.

We all love Diana but most of us dont know that Diana guns are good but these guns can be improved by replacing spring and guides.

Yes in USA most of airgunners buy Diana open the gun, remove the Diana made spring and guide and put in a very high quality spring and guide.

There are two very good companies making these springs which are better than Diana's original springs.

1. Air Rifle Headquarters
2. Vortek

As per my understanding Vortek products are superior.

I am also going to find one complete tuning kit for my new Diana 54.

I shall post you my experience. Later I may be able to facilitate all Pakistani airgunners in getting these tuning kits from USA.

You will forget about the original spring and guide and will always find Vortek kits for your new Diana guns.

All arrangement shall be 100% legal.

Believe me.

The accuracy of the gun also improves.

You can drop me a line if you need such kits. I shall write to the concerned people at vortek and shall let you know what can be done for you if you wish to tune your airguns.

Regards,

Umair Bhaur

zainulabdeen
29-11-2011, 02:02 PM
zainulabdeen1@yahoo.com

Umair Bhaur
29-11-2011, 02:41 PM
zainulabdeen1@yahoo.com

so that the tuning may be as cheaper as possible.

If I get good response from airgunners, I can move forward for importing the high quality Vortek tuning kits for Diana airguns.

Zaheer
29-11-2011, 02:51 PM
Umair bro,

Can I get a spring for my Chinese airgun named "pioneer" in .177

Umair Bhaur
30-11-2011, 12:43 PM
Umair bro,

Can I get a spring for my Chinese airgun named "pioneer" in .177

Dear Zaheer,

I am not doing any business here. In fact I had some good information which I could share so I did. The company which makes great springs and kits is Vortek. Its a US based company. Any thing needed from them is to be imported.

You can also go ahead and place an order and get the required items.

What I can do for all airgunners of Pakistan, is that if here is a good demand, I can talk to Vortek to help Pakistanis get the kits and springs at lowest possible cost.

Yes the postage cost is heavy and if the items be purchased in 10 or 20 items lot, the cost can come down a bit.

I am no seller. Rather I am myself an old airgunner. I take care of my gun myself.

shakeel durrani
30-11-2011, 11:25 PM
if u r not a seller then why not share the price and procedure on the forum brother?

Zaheer
01-12-2011, 01:25 AM
I just asked a question,I have never said that you are doing business on the forum.cheer up bro

Umair Bhaur
01-12-2011, 05:06 PM
if u r not a seller then why not share the price and procedure on the forum brother?
Dear,
You just write Vortek airgun kit in google an# you will find their site. Place the order and you will get it. It is so simple.
But without trained assistance, you can not fit the parts.
Is it ok now?

Birdshooter007
01-12-2011, 06:17 PM
Dear,
You just write Vortek airgun kit in google an# you will find their site. Place the order and you will get it. It is so simple.
But without trained assistance, you can not fit the parts.
Is it ok now?
It should be OK now.

Umair Bhaur
14-12-2011, 02:57 PM
The only reason is its recoil. This recoil does not let us shoot accurately. Similar problem is with 460 but at some less degree.

Diana 34 also shows this problem but even less than 460.

Those who have 54 airking do not feel it due to the recoiless system.

All these problems can be handled and recoil can be managed if "Vortek PG 2" tuning kit are installed in these guns.

We spend a lot of money on 350 magnum but just leave them because they do not shoot accurately.

Why dont we get our guns tuned to resolve this problem?

Please never put any kind of oil in Diana guns. It can ruin your gun.

Naveed_pk
14-12-2011, 03:20 PM
@ Umair are you advertising the "vortek" tunning kits . Why you are reminding us again and again about these kits ?

Umair Bhaur
14-12-2011, 06:39 PM
@ Umair are you advertising the "vortek" tunning kits . Why you are reminding us again and again about these kits ?
Dear Naveed,
I am telling this thing again and again because I meet some people who are selling their costly guns just because of recoil. It's a common practice worldwide to tune such guns with such tuning kit to reduce recoil and increase accuracy.

Also due to reduced recoil, the scopes do not fail.
We are living in 3rd world. Now due to internet we can order and get such things to get most out of our guns.

I myself am an accounting professional in a big organization in Karachi. Airguning is just my hobby. I just want to guide all those who are new or who are old but don't know about these things. This forum may be a good thing to make people understand what is good for them.

Instead of being thankful to me you thought that I am advertising some thing. You did not thought what for? Do you think I shall get commission from a US based company?

You might forgot that I have also mentioned JM kits. But I suggest Vortek just because they are better.

I hope you support me.

Regards

Naveed_pk
14-12-2011, 06:47 PM
@ Umair thank you for helping the members . Is it alright now :) . Have you used vortek kit ? If you have the kit please post some pics and also post some range result which was been shot after and before tunning the airgun . This will show the reult of the airgun .

Also what's the procedure to get these kits ? Are they available easily in Pakistan. If yes i would like to know its price and from where to buy .

Thanks

Umair Bhaur
14-12-2011, 09:09 PM
@ Umair thank you for helping the members . Is it alright now :) . Have you used vortek kit ? If you have the kit please post some pics and also post some range result which was been shot after and before tunning the airgun . This will show the reult of the airgun .

Also what's the procedure to get these kits ? Are they available easily in Pakistan. If yes i would like to know its price and from where to buy .

Thanks

Dear Naveed,

I shall post the pics of kit and other results tomorrow.

khan Hamdan
14-12-2011, 10:22 PM
hahahahaha now thing going cool out...........

Umair Bhaur
15-12-2011, 11:43 AM
@ Umair thank you for helping the members . Is it alright now :) . Have you used vortek kit ? If you have the kit please post some pics and also post some range result which was been shot after and before tuning the airgun . This will show the reult of the airgun .

Also what's the procedure to get these kits ? Are they available easily in Pakistan. If yes i would like to know its price and from where to buy .

Thanks

Dear Naveed,

Here are some pics.

HMO piston is an "O" ring type piston. It is developed by "CCA" a company making products for airguners. This company has close relation with "Vortek". Hence the product of CCA which is HMO piston is now being sold through Vortek as well.

Following is a review of HMO piston.

"I have a 20 year old model 52 that I bought used (just to put the piston in LOL!). When I got it, it was shooting 14.3 gr cp's at 712 with an ES of 16, SD of 4 for 10 shots...this translates to 16.1 fpe. This was stock piston, the exact way I received the gun. I thought that was slow and that maybe the spring was getting tired. Before HMO piston arrived I bought a JM monolith spring to put in the gun. So I had that on hand.

I received HMO piston the other day and went ahead and tried the monolith spring on the factory guide. This spring looks like a beast compared to the spring that came in the gun. (BTW, I'm not 100% sure that the spring that came in the gun is an OEM spring, but I THINK it is.) Anyways with the monolith spring the gun shot JSB heavies which I weighed to be 18.2-18.3 gr. at 664 fps with an ES of 9 and SD of 3 for 10 shots- 17.8fpe. CP's 14.3 gr, shot 748 with and ES of 10 and SD of 3 again for 10 shots- 17.8 fpe. I did use the thinnest spacer provided...any more and the spring would bind and the gun didn't cock. Well, I took the monolith out last night and put the original spring back in. (The monolith had taken a big set and was quite a bit shorter than the original. It was unset when I bought it.) So now with the original spring back in the gun and NO spacers used: JSB heavies 710 avg, ES-3 SD-.81 for only 5 shots because it was beginning to rain here. CP's 801 AVG, ES-15, SD-4 for 10 shots. Both translate to 20.4 fpe!!! MUCH BETTER than the stock piston!!! OVER 5 fpe gain with just the new piston change!!

Best of all the shot cycle is very nice...just a quick recoil pulse...very, very smooth. In fact the shot cycle seemed to be identical to the shot cycle of the monolith spring but with much more power- 17.8 fpe vs. 20.4 fpe.
I would like to try a new OEM spring and may try to buy one in the future. I do have another JM spring and guide coming from a wtb ad I placed on the classifieds. The seller doesn't know which JM kit it is, but it's an old one and doesn't have a tophat just the rear spring guide. So, more testing to come.
regards."

I think the above experience will help the readers to judge the benefits of HMO piston over Diana piston.

Vortek says
Now I come to Vortek KitDYI tuning kits allow the air gun owner an inexpensive and simple, module tune kit to install. A self-contained drop-in system to correctly reduce piston and spring noise. In addition, most air guns quietly perform with increased velocity!

The PG2 tuning kits come complete with 3 guides, ...mechanically tuned in the boundaries of the PG2 technology that controls noise by homogenizing harmonics with-in and throughout the dampened dual-guide materials!

Included in each kit: power spring, lubrication and instructions on how to install. No tight guides and tar! Full Power!

Discussion
There are two Kit makers in USA which are renowned.

1. JM Maccari
2. Vortek

The 3rd one is from UK
3. V-Mach

these are world famous tuners and developers of unique tuning kits for different airguns.

In recent days, Vortek kits and HMO pistons have been proved to be the best.

Price

HMO Piston 130$
Vortek PG2 Kit 79$

These prices are without shipment charges which are normally 11$.

I know it is difficult to spend extra 130$ on an airgun but if some one has got funds, its worth using. If an airgunner is really a gun lover, he will love this piston as it increases power without increasing recoil.

The rest of airgunners who cannot spend that much and have Diana 34, 48, 52, 54, 56th, 460 or 350 can move to Vortek PG2 kit by spending 79$. This is I think a one time investment after which if some one feels that power level has decreased due to years of usage of gun, the replacement spring price is just 17$. This spring will fit in the tuning kit.

Vortek kit is unique because it uses 3 guides. While Diana uses only one guide. 3 Guides reduces the recoil and the gun becomes very accurate without compromising on power.

Even if some one using Diana 54 puts this kit in, the firing behavior improves a lot.

This is a world wide practice. These people are specialist in making these parts and in US a lot of people buy a new gun and replace its spring with the PG2 tuning kits and throw the original spring away. That much is the difference between original Diana springs and Vortek product.

I am using PG2 kit in my Diana 54.

I also want to give this knowledge to all other Pakistani airguners so that they could also get the best use of there airguns.

Specially the users of 350, 460 and 34 need to put Vortek kit in their guns. If some one like the other way, JM maccari kits can also be their choice but those kits are difficult to install and technology wise Vortek is superior. But JM Maccari kits also give very good results.

I am here to help the airgunners in technical aspects.

I think now we should discuss such things and improve our guns.

Welcome to all

Naveed_pk
15-12-2011, 12:04 PM
@ Umair is this review is yours and Pics of the kit clicked by you ??

Umair Bhaur
15-12-2011, 12:57 PM
@ Umair is this review is yours and Pics of the kit clicked by you ??

is mine. The rest is from other users. Pics I have in my cell phone but could not get in my computer to attach. So I picked similar pics from internet and attached.

I shall put my own snapped pic as my cell phone allows me to transfer pics on my computer.

Regards,

Umair Bhaur
15-12-2011, 01:40 PM
@ Umair is this review is yours and Pics of the kit clicked by you ??

Yes Naveed, I got two pics downloaded from my cell phone snapped by me. In one pic you can see the PG2 kit and in other pic you can see some lubricats, piston seal, breech seal and set of screws which I got from Vortek and CCA.

I hope you will like it.65616562

Naveed_pk
15-12-2011, 07:12 PM
Thanks bro for sharing with us and effort you put in :) . Kindly tell us the cost and procedure to get it . Also how to tune the airgun with this kit . If you can do some sort of video tutorial it will be the best help for all airgunner's enthusiasts :)

Regards

khan Hamdan
15-12-2011, 10:33 PM
can its available for Diana31 panther

Umair Bhaur
16-12-2011, 02:43 PM
Thanks bro for sharing with us and effort you put in :) . Kindly tell us the cost and procedure to get it . Also how to tune the airgun with this kit . If you can do some sort of video tutorial it will be the best help for all airgunner's enthusiasts :)

Regards

Following links will be helpful to tune a Diana airgun:

http://home.comcast.net/~scot_for_sale/guns/RWS48_tune/index.html

http://web.mac.com/photomark/iWeb/Airgun%20Adventures/Diana%20RWS%2048%20Spring%20Upgrade.html

http://www.eddiecolwell.tzo.com/RWS-54.htm

Here are also some pics of spring compressors:
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Spring compressor is a must to open and tune a spring gun otherwise the person doing the tune work can harm himself.

Regards,

fluffmaster
17-12-2011, 01:34 PM
amazing information....your passion for innovative ideas, perfection and accuracy is unmatched umair....u are a natural and born shooter,,,,keep up the good work

Umair Bhaur
19-12-2011, 05:19 PM
can its available for Diana31 panther

Dear Hamdan,

As far as I understand, the kit for Diana 34 will also suit Diana 31 Panther.

You can also confirm directly from Vortek USA.

The scope for 31 panther will be Diana scope, Gamo airgun scope and the best will be Hawke Airmax scope.

If your one piece mount is of 1 inch, you should only select a scope of 1 inch dia body.

shoaibi
06-07-2012, 08:28 PM
Thanks Umair for sharing so good information. Please send me your e-mail as i want to have some advice from you about importing a Pg2 kit for my diana 52.

Thanks.
Shoaib

shoaibi
06-07-2012, 08:31 PM
shoaibi.dga@gmail.com

Turumti
07-07-2012, 05:00 AM
For whatever its worth, I have used Jim Maccari spring and spring guide in my Weihrauch HW30, and it shot faster and more accurate then when it was in stock form.

Umair Bhaur
19-07-2012, 08:25 PM
Dear,
My address is
mubhaur@yahoo.com

jog3ee
16-11-2014, 06:14 PM
Upon Umair bhai's recommendation I bought the Vortek tune kit for my Diana 52 and it truly transformed a good airgun into a great airgun. The shot cycle is so improved and different that it almost eliminates the feeling of a springer's recoil. A quick thud and it's over. No spring vibrations and twang. The cocking effort is also significantly less. Excellent product, highly recommended.

adam
16-11-2014, 07:11 PM
You are right jog3ee, you see with proper tuning, these air guns can be dramatically changed. These V-Match and Vortek kits are great products.

Are they available some where in Pakistan, my ignorance, but I never saw these in market. Wonder where to get one.

Have wonderful time with your 52.

adam
16-11-2014, 07:15 PM
What is the effect on accuracy. how much has it improved. please give some details.

jog3ee
16-11-2014, 09:27 PM
At I didn't try it of longer distance as yet .. will test it on 35-40 yards and let ya'all know :)

Anaglyphical
17-12-2014, 06:57 PM
Umair bhai your help is much needed to arrange a vortek kit for my diana 350 magnum. If you can kindly tell how much would it cost in total and what would be the procedure.

Regards