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American Lockpicker
28-09-2011, 05:02 AM
Heres an interesting handgun I got earlier this year.

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American Lockpicker
28-09-2011, 05:02 AM
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Bullseye
28-09-2011, 08:36 AM
20 round mag? What about the cost and availability of Ammo in your area? Kindly share some penetration data of ammo.

Ameer
28-09-2011, 09:33 AM
interesting for me too, as i am looking at it for the very first time. Congratulations and kindly share the details.

AK47
28-09-2011, 09:37 AM
Excellent. We've portrayed this handgun over here, but only a few managed it's acquisition, mainly due to rarity of the handgun itself, as well as it's ammunition.

It's priced at some $9000 over here, if available.

Your pack of 50 rounds @ $24.5 is plain confectionery. Here, same pack would be for some $250/50 rounds, if not more!


No doubts a beautiful handgun, high capped, super fast, flat trajectory @ 2000 Fps MV or the like, I believe. Congrats.

Let's hear more on this from your side.


Regards.

Bullseye
28-09-2011, 09:46 AM
Excellent. We've portrayed this handgun over here, but only a few managed it's acquisition, mainly due to rarity of the handgun itself, as well as it's ammunition.

It's priced at some $9000 over here, if available.

Your pack of 50 rounds @ $24.5 is plain confectionery. Here, same pack would be for some $250/50 rounds, if not more!


No doubts a beautiful handgun, high capped, super fast, flat trajectory @ 2000 Fps MV or the like, I believe. Congrats.

Let's hear more on this from your side.


Regards.

Aaah Missed that.. Thanks AK

American Lockpicker
28-09-2011, 11:09 AM
20 round mag? What about the cost and availability of Ammo in your area? Kindly share some penetration data of ammo.


Ammo is always available here but not cheap. When I got the gun I made a deal with the gunshop owner for 2 boxes of 50 for $50 USD(4340.28 PR) tax included. Its now around $28(2430.56) a box but you can order a case of 2000 rounds online for $840(72916.67) shipped.

The gun itself was $1165(101,128.47) which was an ok price here(goes for $1299+ 6% tax at gun shows and around $900 online.) As for performance it doesn't penetrate armor with the rounds I use(SS109 AP ammo is legal but the ammo makers regulate it...) but it does have long range. When I first got it I took it to the a 100 yard rimfire range that my dad has access too(belongs to Dupont who used to make gunpowder for the US gov in WW1 and Remington during the 20th century) and was able to consistantly hit this rock that was a few yards beyond the last row for targets at 100yds.

American Lockpicker
28-09-2011, 11:11 AM
Also I should mention this gun is very light weight. Fully loaded with 21 rounds it weighs less than an unloaded Glock 17.

Sturmgewehr
28-09-2011, 12:12 PM
Excellent. We've portrayed this handgun over here, but only a few managed it's acquisition, mainly due to rarity of the handgun itself, as well as it's ammunition.

It's priced at some $9000 over here, if available.

Your pack of 50 rounds @ $24.5 is plain confectionery. Here, same pack would be for some $250/50 rounds, if not more!


No doubts a beautiful handgun, high capped, super fast, flat trajectory @ 2000 Fps MV or the like, I believe. Congrats.

Let's hear more on this from your side.


Regards.

why is everything here in Pakistan so over priced......I mean the dealers really do riip into our skins dont they?

There should be some serious price control in this field as well.

Usama
28-09-2011, 12:26 PM
Nice and interesting Share AL ... some range targets will be more appreciated :)

bestmagician83
28-09-2011, 12:34 PM
may be in Pakistan this pistol will cost in between 5 to 6 lacks.....

Usama
28-09-2011, 12:41 PM
Bestmagician83 ...
Heard some time back it was @ 1.2 million

s.cheema
28-09-2011, 12:58 PM
nice pistol

AK47
28-09-2011, 02:47 PM
Aaah Missed that.. Thanks AK

@Bullseye..........Thanks Sir, you're welcome!

Apparently, I missed something greater even! Congrats!

(I'm congratulating Bullseye Sir for assumption of the new role here.)

@American Lockerpie........ Let's have more range reports, plz!

@Sturmgevehr.........Bro, the dealers take their fair portion, no doubts, yet keep in mind, it's a damned NATO weapon, not easy to get over here onto the green map.


Regards.

M.ASIF KHAN
28-09-2011, 03:08 PM
@American Lockpicker = excellent gun

Muhammad m
28-09-2011, 04:01 PM
sir uve burnt the hearts of all PG members by starting this :p
this stuffs real eye candy

the only thing available here with this much penetrating power is our LEGANDARY .30 ( in my opinion frm what ive seen) ill b corrected if im wrong

Sturmgewehr
28-09-2011, 06:48 PM
Bestmagician83 ...
Heard some time back it was @ 1.2 million

its too over priced..........dont need it........it isnt worth it........and why is it difficult for a legal, licensed and authorized dealer to get western guns? perhaps its western biggotry...i dont know.......the dealers are still making abnormal amounts of dough over the top of regular profit....they need to be kept in check.......and we need a real functioning NRA to fix these problems.

Muhammad m
28-09-2011, 07:39 PM
@ Sturmgewehr
i think they are banned to sell us arms so whatever comes here, comes through illegal channels and due to high demand low supply, prices are AMAZING.

American Lockpicker
28-09-2011, 08:50 PM
the only thing available here with this much penetrating power is our LEGANDARY .30 ( in my opinion frm what ive seen) ill b corrected if im wrong

Yes the 7.62x25 has a lot of penetrating power and is much more economical.



its too over priced..........dont need it........it isnt worth it........

I agree based on build quality I would say this gun should be $400-500 but I once read high cost of Belgian labour and taxes is why it has such price(the fact Browning hi powers are sent to Portugal to be assembled and FNP-9 is made here in USA and costs less than $500 kinda back that up.) I wouldn't recommend this to the casual gun owner as there are a lot of better guns for less money. But if you are in to black gun collecting its a must have.

Sturmgewehr
29-09-2011, 11:14 AM
man why did they ban us......maybe the american economy wouldnt be dying if they just let us buy their stuff I mean do the western companies and govts have any idea as to the size of the market for their goods here.............i mean its huge.....everyone wants colt and everyone wants S&W if they just sold this stuff to us then they would be stripping away the business that the turks and the chinese are getting.

check out the forum called the highroad.org.............there is a very detailed discussion started of by a pakistani about this very phenomenon and most americans agree with him on it.

qwertypoiu
29-09-2011, 02:16 PM
In mexico it is called Copkiller(mexican) due to armor penetration.

American Lockpicker
29-09-2011, 09:21 PM
man why did they ban us......maybe the american economy wouldnt be dying if they just let us buy their stuff I mean do the western companies and govts have any idea as to the size of the market for their goods here.............i mean its huge.....everyone wants colt and everyone wants S&W if they just sold this stuff to us then they would be stripping away the business that the turks and the chinese are getting.

check out the forum called the highroad.org.............there is a very detailed discussion started of by a pakistani about this very phenomenon and most americans agree with him on it.

Do you have a link to that thread? I'm also a member there. I'm against our export restrictions which not only affects Pakistan but Canada(that was almost beyond belief for me), Australia, UK, etc.

ACHILLES
29-09-2011, 09:35 PM
i had the gun but for quite some time i was looking for the ammo but was unable to find. So get rid of the gun.

Trajan
29-09-2011, 10:16 PM
@ Achilles , you had this pistol in Pakistan? how much did you sell it for? would the seller be interested in re-selling it?

@ everyone. why are the bullets blue tipped? some special bullets? or all 5.7x28 bullets are like this?

thanks.

American Lockpicker
30-09-2011, 02:37 AM
I think its blue because its FN's colour, I've seen read ones before(Hornady bullets?). Theres other types available like JHP, tire busters, and of course SS109.

Trigger_happy78
30-09-2011, 09:02 AM
Awsome gun that American lockpicker bro. Happy shooting

Sturmgewehr
30-09-2011, 10:30 AM
Do you have a link to that thread? I'm also a member there. I'm against our export restrictions which not only affects Pakistan but Canada(that was almost beyond belief for me), Australia, UK, etc.

I dont think I can post the link here as it also contains discussion of the the more restricted sort,which is against PG rules....just search for gun prices in pakistan and you might find it.........if you dont then mail me at dammas29@hotmail.com and I will send the link to you from there via e-mail.

p.s
Canada...oh you have to be kidding me.That is so ridiculous,why block of a perfectly developed and stable nation like Canada.I guess the ATF likes ol' mehico better then the rest of the world because thats the only place they seem to be exporting a lot of guns....if you catch my drift...remember that ATF blunder a few weeks ago...the one that got that poor border cop killed...Just plain sick and pathetic.

American Lockpicker
30-09-2011, 01:48 PM
Canada...oh you have to be kidding me.That is so ridiculous,why block of a perfectly developed and stable nation like Canada.I guess the ATF likes ol' mehico better then the rest of the world because thats the only place they seem to be exporting a lot of guns....if you catch my drift...remember that ATF blunder a few weeks ago...the one that got that poor border cop killed...Just plain sick and pathetic.

Email sent. Yeah it has something to do with ITAR and very little can be sent to Canada. Also the BATFE doesn't really like Americans owning guns they try to restrict them at every opportunity and make it difficult to buy them. Just this year Taurus(a gun company from Brasil) tried importing this really neat 28 gauge revolver and the ATF called it a short barreled shotgun and said it was unimportable.

ACHILLES
30-09-2011, 02:21 PM
@ Achilles , you had this pistol in Pakistan? how much did you sell it for? would the seller be interested in re-selling it?

@ everyone. why are the bullets blue tipped? some special bullets? or all 5.7x28 bullets are like this?

thanks.


That owner is not reselling but i can get you one if you are intrested and yeah no ammo is available.

ACHILLES
30-09-2011, 02:23 PM
Thay blue coloured tip is actually plastic insert in the tip to make it less resistant while flight. BALLISTIC TIP.

Sturmgewehr
01-10-2011, 01:04 PM
Email sent. Yeah it has something to do with ITAR and very little can be sent to Canada. Also the BATFE doesn't really like Americans owning guns they try to restrict them at every opportunity and make it difficult to buy them. Just this year Taurus(a gun company from Brasil) tried importing this really neat 28 gauge revolver and the ATF called it a short barreled shotgun and said it was unimportable.
Why doesnt the NRA do something about ATF's attitude...........I mean they have senators as their members,I hate ITAR if it wasnt in place I would probably be able to order something fancy and engraved....right now it almost costs as much as a mercedes.

Trajan
01-10-2011, 04:16 PM
That owner is not reselling but i can get you one if you are intrested and yeah no ammo is available.

@ Achillles: Thank you. Do let me know what the price would be , should be reasonably good considering no ammo is available. i would just get it for my collection.

American Lockpicker
02-10-2011, 09:34 AM
Why doesnt the NRA do something about ATF's attitude...........I mean they have senators as their members,I hate ITAR if it wasnt in place I would probably be able to order something fancy and engraved....right now it almost costs as much as a mercedes.

I really can't say, I'm not a member. You might try writing to the NRA-ILA about this, if enough people had an interest in it they might try doing something about it.

https://secure.nraila.org/Contact.aspx

Sturmgewehr
03-10-2011, 11:09 AM
I doubt they will help our cause cus they actually do support a ban on pakistan...........we have to make the companies do arm twisting here cus its them loosing the money and the markets....

by the way Im thinking of getting a holster from the NRA gift site through an american relative of mine......are they worth it or galco and bianchi are the only good ones.

American Lockpicker
04-10-2011, 03:37 AM
I had a look on their site and I recommend the Blackhawk(I've played around with them before at a local gun shop and they are very well made.) The others just appear to be generic.

ACHILLES
04-10-2011, 11:33 AM
@ Achillles: Thank you. Do let me know what the price would be , should be reasonably good considering no ammo is available. i would just get it for my collection.

BROTHER ITS GOING TO EXPENSIVE. When ammo comes in its going top be more expensive than now.

Sturmgewehr
04-10-2011, 12:04 PM
thanks man........hope ITAR is reviewed....am doing a bit of research on it but havent been able to get my hands on an actual copy of the document....hope you can help me out here.........and what would you say about canik...is the company worth the money or should I just move on?

low*dog
24-10-2011, 02:00 PM
Ammo is always available here but not cheap. When I got the gun I made a deal with the gunshop owner for 2 boxes of 50 for $50 USD(4340.28 PR) tax included. Its now around $28(2430.56) a box but you can order a case of 2000 rounds online for $840(72916.67) shipped.

The gun itself was $1165(101,128.47) which was an ok price here(goes for $1299+ 6% tax at gun shows and around $900 online.) As for performance it doesn't penetrate armor with the rounds I use(SS109 AP ammo is legal but the ammo makers regulate it...) but it does have long range. When I first got it I took it to the a 100 yard rimfire range that my dad has access too(belongs to Dupont who used to make gunpowder for the US gov in WW1 and Remington during the 20th century) and was able to consistantly hit this rock that was a few yards beyond the last row for targets at 100yds.Picker, I'm confused about this round. Seems to be the same as the.22 Magmun rimfire as far as power(40gr bullet at 2000fps) Seems the main advantage is it is center fire. Am I mistaken?

American Lockpicker
24-10-2011, 11:02 PM
According to wikipedia I get 1,700 ft/s out of its 4.8in barrel where a 22 mag needs a rifle length barrel. Its advantages are range and armor piercing(with correct ammo) capabilities. Think of it as a pocket AR15.

Moeen
25-10-2011, 03:53 AM
Yep, I have one. And she is a beauty.

Moeen
25-10-2011, 04:00 AM
I got it a while back. Its quite a lightweight item. Very very nice and aggressive grip checkering. Had Two pieces till a friend popped in and took one of them with night sights.

low*dog
29-10-2011, 01:02 PM
According to wikipedia I get 1,700 ft/s out of its 4.8in barrel where a 22 mag needs a rifle length barrel. Its advantages are range and armor piercing(with correct ammo) capabilities. Think of it as a pocket AR15.Ahhh yes,the longer barrel. Although I own about a dozen hand guns I've never thought of my self as a "hand gunner". As my age increases and my vision decreases any thing without a scope can only be used to engage a target at arms lenght.

dodo23
11-02-2013, 10:36 PM
I dont think I can post the link here as it also contains discussion of the the more restricted sort,which is against PG rules....just search for gun prices in pakistan and you might find it.........if you dont then mail me at dammas29@hotmail.com and I will send the link to you from there via e-mail.

p.s
Canada...oh you have to be kidding me.That is so ridiculous,why block of a perfectly developed and stable nation like Canada.I guess the ATF likes ol' mehico better then the rest of the world because thats the only place they seem to be exporting a lot of guns....if you catch my drift...remember that ATF blunder a few weeks ago...the one that got that poor border cop killed...Just plain sick and pathetic.

I know this is an old thread, but right now, it is way easier to import firearms into Canada out of Europe than USA. Although we are neighbours, but much BS going on!

American Lockpicker
11-02-2013, 11:59 PM
Its hard to get any gun in USA as an American at the moment. I can just imagine how difficult it is for someone elsewhere...

So I'm focusing on optics for weapons I already have...

xtrema2
12-02-2013, 11:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXR268x2jQY

American Lockpicker
13-02-2013, 09:40 AM
I wish I was as good with teh 5.7 I had as he was with his...

Moeen
13-02-2013, 09:53 AM
Salam All,
@American Lockpicker - you can be good with the FN 57, send it to.... oh man whats the name of the company... sorry your gonna have to google it.... they give it a nice trigger job, get that done. I WAS able to finally get the Armorers manual for the FN however was only allowed to use it for my use in front of the owner... meaning no photos or scans or copies. Still at it trying to get it outta him. Its a great gun but has ammo availability issues here. I am thinking about converting one to TCM... Whats your opinion on a project like that hmmm? Same bullet weight so I can use the same recoil spring, the breech head will have to be modded and the barrel will have to be made from I am thinking an M4 barrel end?
Give me your thoughts.

American Lockpicker
14-02-2013, 05:21 AM
I ended up selling the 5.7...

I think I may know of a place online that has teh manual(I'll do some looking around also someone on the FN forum we frequent may have a PDF...)

As for converting it I'm not sure, its already an expensive gun in PK and TCM is 9mm based so I'd recommend a mod on a cheap 9mm instead.

I do want a RIA pistol in that caliber but I need to find one for sale first. I tried to get one last year and had no luck.

rmishaq
14-02-2013, 11:16 PM
@Moeen bhai I dont have too much knowledge on modding guns but, the sheer financial implications make me agree with American Lockpicker on this. Besides, you have the poor mans five-seven in the TCM so perhaps the "other" TCM concept you were tinkering with has more merit.