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Doktar
26-04-2009, 10:11 PM
I have a simple question.... which rifles can be kept on NPB license. Gun should be semi-automatic.

Balazona
26-04-2009, 10:21 PM
It can be any .22LR semi auto rifle.but 7mm on NPB is still confusing matter.

Imu10
26-04-2009, 11:06 PM
as per my knowledge all the bolt action rifles are NPB
like .22lr, .22 hornet, .22-250, .243, .270, 30-06, 308, 7mm , 7mm magnum ,300 magnum,375 ,375 magnum are all rifles which can be put on NPB MOI licence

Balazona
26-04-2009, 11:12 PM
Imu10,Bolt action rifles cant register on Provincial NPB licenses?

AK47
26-04-2009, 11:15 PM
Can they register on MOI NPB?

Taurus
27-04-2009, 12:11 AM
yep ak47 they can be registered

Enigmatic Desires
27-04-2009, 02:23 AM
yep ak47 they can be registered
:D

Glxspk
27-04-2009, 03:53 AM
Imu10,Bolt action rifles cant register on Provincial NPB licenses?

Yes they can be registered.

Naazer
27-04-2009, 07:49 AM
all rifles listed by imu in their respective calibers as long as they ae bolt action can be registered on any npb license (MOI or Prov)

the only limitation is to semi auto or auto which can only be a .22 LR or NPB license.

there shouldn be any confusion on this

Enigmatic Desires
27-04-2009, 04:38 PM
My MOI license specifically mentions .22 as an NBP calibre. and .303 and above as PB...

Imu10
27-04-2009, 08:19 PM
My MOI license specifically mentions .22 as an NBP calibre. and .303 and above as PB...
so u have to stick to .22 specifically

Ahmad
27-04-2009, 08:37 PM
dealers are still refusing to sell bolt action rifles here in my town on new Provincial NPB rifle license.

Zubair
28-04-2009, 11:55 AM
Just checked & double confirmed. Anything above .22 is PB whether semi auto or bolt action. However on old licenses,prior to 2000 you can get them.

Balazona
28-04-2009, 12:01 PM
What about MOI notification copy which is posted by Osam.This matter is still very confusing for us, specialy for Lahore members.Malik & Sons Lahore also confirmed that they r not selling their Bolt action 7mm rifles on new NPB licenses.

Enigmatic Desires
28-04-2009, 12:13 PM
I dealer was willing to sell me a brno 7mm on my nbp license in Karachi

Enigmatic Desires
28-04-2009, 12:14 PM
Lets just wait and see what the new books say now that NBP licenses have been opened by the MOI

Zubair
28-04-2009, 12:24 PM
I have just gone through this. Bought a .223 BOLT action from a private party in ISB. There dealer confirmed that he will handle the transfer process and it can be registered on my NPB fresh license. But yesterday found out that it cannot be. Looks like the confusion is prevalent all around and even dealers & DCO office people were not clear about it.

Naazer
28-04-2009, 12:26 PM
guys btw before you buy a 7 mm bolt action rifle pls be sure of what purpose you're getting it for. if its a collectible then fine to add for your collection, if for hunting then this is also a good choice. For fun plinking, target shooting, hd/sd it'll be a waste.

SanSyed
28-04-2009, 12:43 PM
@imu10
bro except .22,all calibers r PB even they r bolt action.

SanSyed
28-04-2009, 12:47 PM
only .22 calibers
its conform

Hamid
28-04-2009, 12:50 PM
guys btw before you buy a 7 mm bolt action rifle pls be sure of what purpose you're getting it for. if its a collectible then fine to add for your collection, if for hunting then this is also a good choice. For fun plinking, target shooting, hd/sd it'll be a waste.
Its good choice if you have to regularly face wild boars in your front lawn.
BTW aiming a robber with the telescope and hitting him in the hip will be a nice show:D

Xerga
09-05-2009, 02:00 PM
NPB options:

1 - pistols ( semi automatic) - revolvers.

2 - shotguns 12 gauge. pump action/repeaters.

3 - 22 bore rifle.

rest is PB. ak's 222 bore. 44 bore. mp5 , fully auto pistols, 8mm, 7mm, dosnt matter if gun is bolt action, semiautomatic or fully automatic, it comes in PB LIST.


regards.

Shariq
10-05-2009, 01:54 AM
Sir i beg to disagree on the issue of 7mm. Taurus plz scan and post the government letter for everyone to read. Thanks

Enigmatic Desires
10-05-2009, 03:25 AM
Sir i beg to disagree on the issue of 7mm. Taurus plz scan and post the government letter for everyone to read. Thanks

Oh hell. The same thing all over again.. some people are saying its NPB others are saying its not. even the dealers are confused. some dealers I visited said its not conformed others are willing to sell..

Ka_Khan
10-05-2009, 04:32 PM
NPB options:

1 - pistols ( semi automatic) - revolvers.

2 - shotguns 12 gauge. pump action/repeaters.

3 - 22 bore rifle.

rest is PB. ak's 222 bore. 44 bore. mp5 , fully auto pistols, 8mm, 7mm, dosnt matter if gun is bolt action, semiautomatic or fully automatic, it comes in PB LIST.
regards.
Debateable ....222 and 44 bore...people are having them on Npb.
PB weapons are not allowed by any Arms manufacturing Factory in Peshawar.They only made NPB.
By visiting Khyber Arms Company you will see above mentioned bores manufactured ..but in Semi auto form.

Enigmatic Desires
10-05-2009, 04:57 PM
NPB options:

1 - pistols ( semi automatic) - revolvers.

2 - shotguns 12 gauge. pump action/repeaters.

3 - 22 bore rifle.

rest is PB. ak's 222 bore. 44 bore. mp5 , fully auto pistols, 8mm, 7mm, dosnt matter if gun is bolt action, semiautomatic or fully automatic, it comes in PB LIST.
regards.
Debateable ....222 and 44 bore...people are having them on Npb.
PB weapons are not allowed by any Arms manufacturing Factory in Peshawar.They only made NPB.
By visiting Khyber Arms Company you will see above mentioned bores manufactured ..but in Semi auto form.


The proof of the pudding is in the eating. once the new licenses come though I am going to buy a powerful bolt action and take to be registered to the local thana. If they slap on the hand cuffs. i'll endeavor to inform pak guns to bury the debate once an for all...

:P

ay_be_why
10-05-2009, 06:35 PM
@ED, sir that's the spirit ;)
sir btw wouldn't it be a better idea to drop the local thana a call regarding the PB/NPB issue before buying? koi ek allah ka banda to knowledgeable/helpful ho ga na... (hopefully!!)

Enigmatic Desires
11-05-2009, 12:37 AM
@ED, sir that's the spirit ;)
sir btw wouldn't it be a better idea to drop the local thana a call regarding the PB/NPB issue before buying? koi ek allah ka banda to knowledgeable/helpful ho ga na... (hopefully!!)


What an lose my chance of getting my hands on my 'dream' .222 bolt action

now isnt that worth goin to prison for???

:P:P

MUSTANIR
11-05-2009, 09:23 AM
can anybody help me getting a 222 or 223 bolt action,, I have inheritred a 8*57 bolt action Mauser,,,, What bore is this,, is it 8mm,, if so wat is ammo price

ay_be_why
11-05-2009, 12:54 PM
i have a document DLed from www.tayabally.com/arm/armspolicy.pdf (http://www.tayabally.com/arm/armspolicy.pdf) (the link's dead now...) it claims that .22, 7mm, 9mm and .303 NON automatic are NPB... :|

Enigmatic Desires
11-05-2009, 07:31 PM
i have a document DLed from www.tayabally.com/arm/armspolicy.pdf (http://www.tayabally.com/arm/armspolicy.pdf) (the link's dead now...) it claims that .22, 7mm, 9mm and .303 NON automatic are NPB... :|

9mm should bloody well be NPB considering its not even a rifle calibre!!

ay_be_why
12-05-2009, 09:37 AM
i have a document DLed from www.tayabally.com/arm/armspolicy.pdf (http://www.tayabally.com/arm/armspolicy.pdf) (the link's dead now...) it claims that .22, 7mm, 9mm and .303 NON automatic are NPB... :|

9mm should bloody well be NPB considering its not even a rifle calibre!!

i know sir, just said what the document said... too bad the tayabally website is down, you could've seen it yourself... :|

TAREEN
12-05-2009, 10:19 AM
can anybody help me getting a 222 or 223 bolt action,, I have inheritred a 8*57 bolt action Mauser,,,, What bore is this,, is it 8mm,, if so wat is ammo price
Brother, did u check with the following person? He is known to carry most of the popular weapons.
http://www.majeedsons.com/Default.aspx?mod=1&type=NRF&cname=./Transaction/MasterDetailReport.ascx

Taurus
12-05-2009, 01:51 PM
nice one tareen

Ateeq1
22-05-2009, 11:58 AM
.44 handgun is NPB, handguns above .46 is PB

Doctor
25-05-2009, 07:23 PM
We got a Licensed .222 bore rifle(Kalakov) in 1994.It is semi automatic.In License too its written as "One NP 222 bore S.A Rifle".

My Question is that can I buy an automatic Kalakov on this License and is it allowed to carry on this License?

Secondly is .222 bore Non Prohibited?As for as I understand its Prohibited but in the License it has been mentioned as NP?

Thirdly, there a section in the MOI License Form labelled as "Weapon Retainers Information".In case I opt for this, which is the relation who can be mentioned here, I mean is it mandatory to enter Father or Son as a retainer or any person's name can be entered?

Fourth, Are both the main Licensee and Retainer allowed to carry the gun then or only the retainer has the right to carry?

Abu Al Hawl
25-05-2009, 08:35 PM
bore is never pb, its always the weapon's function, all autos however even .22 is even considered to be PB because even this little bore with auto function can harm number of people at one time (IN ACT OF TERRORISM) this also goes for semi auto rifles because of quick delivery of rounds. NO BOLT ACTION RIFLE IS PB, regarldess of their bore size. some years back 222 was not PB but it has been NOW declared PB. becasue norinko's AR15 is available or was available and some how came into Pakistan and later MOI realized oh this is some thing dangerous, hence ak74 (Kirnkov)

Enigmatic Desires
25-05-2009, 08:56 PM
i have a document DLed from www.tayabally.com/arm/armspolicy.pdf (http://www.tayabally.com/arm/armspolicy.pdf) (the link's dead now...) it claims that .22, 7mm, 9mm and .303 NON automatic are NPB... :|

9mm should bloody well be NPB considering its not even a rifle calibre!!

i know sir, just said what the document said... too bad the tayabally website is down, you could've seen it yourself... :|


i've seen the website.. did'nt know it was down.. next time i go there i'll check em out

Dr Zakir
26-05-2009, 12:02 AM
+1 to Abu Al Hawl all bolt action rifles are npb except .222 and .223 which were initially npb and persons who have old lisences do have them on npb specifically they were declared pb because people were using conversion switches to turn them automatic . exception is .308 ( 7.62 *54 ) which is the calibre used by army

you cannot keep kalakov on your liscence as it is for semiautomatic .222 and kalakov is auto also. main difference between pb and npb is the AUTO.

Naazer
26-05-2009, 09:33 AM
dr zakir: perhaps a correction-a bolt action cannot be converted to an auto with a converter switch. only a semi-auto can be converted. many ppl converted their 223 ar-15's semi autos into autos and hence the ban. 222 and 223 bolt actions remain NPB.

and yeah you're right that the difference between PB and NPB is mechanism of the rifle and hence all semi auto rifles are PB except for 22LR

mlkqsm
06-03-2010, 01:19 AM
what about 30bore semi auto rifle ?