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Birdshooter007
24-09-2011, 09:15 PM
AOA.
I was going to get a RWS 34 classic (price was 32k) but when I went to the shop, Badruddin and Son in Rawalpindi, I saw this sheer beauty and bought it without a second thought. It was very reasonably priced at just Rs 40k and I didn't hesitate in getting this beauty.

The gun is very balanced, and although it's weight is 8lbs as compared to the normal rws350 magnum's weight of 8.20lbs, it feels very much lighter than the latter. The gun is very well balanced and feels like half the weight of the normal 350magnum.M.A I got a good piece and the recoil is almost half than that of the 350 magnum I had and it's much more accurate due to this fact. Although I have just shot 3 pellets through it, really amused by this slim and fun-to-use airgun. It's stock does not have a raised cheek-piece and that is what I like the most about it. With the other 350mag, I couldn't aim properly as the stock would hit my jaws due to raised cheeck-piece and high recoil. It's very comfortable to use and what I liked the MOST are the well-made fiber optic's which simply outshine the normal 350 mag's useless, cheap iron sights, and not to miss the TO-6 trigger.
At that shop, they had Gamo Shadow 1000 for Rs 21k, Gamo Whisper for 22.5k, rws 34 classic for 32k, rws 34 premium for 37, rws 34 professional for 35k, got mine the 350 Feuerkraft for 40k and they had the 460 magnum for 45k.....ALL NIB.
Here are the pics:
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic016.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic017.jpg
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http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic020.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic021.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic023.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic022.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic025.jpg
this pattern is just oiling
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic024.jpg

Zaheer
24-09-2011, 09:32 PM
Nice Pics bro

Birdshooter007
24-09-2011, 09:34 PM
Nice Pics bro
Thanks !!!!!!

Ameer
24-09-2011, 10:02 PM
Congratulations to our younger brother Chaudhry Sb.

Birdshooter007
24-09-2011, 10:26 PM
Congratulations to our younger brother Chaudhry Sb.

Many Thanks!!!!!

dnkhan
24-09-2011, 11:00 PM
Absolute Beautiii ;)
after 34 the next thing on my mind is 350 Inshallah :D

Do share some hunt pics with this gun chauhadry sab :p

Birdshooter007
24-09-2011, 11:07 PM
Absolute Beautiii ;)
after 34 the next thing on my mind is 350 Inshallah :D

Do share some hunt pics with this gun chauhadry sab :p
Thanks. And hunt pics :| , Dove and pigeon hunting is banned in Punjab maybe I can get a permission soon and I will p.m you the pics :D

Birdshooter007
25-09-2011, 11:19 AM
Update:
This morning I went outside to zero my sleek beauty and after about 10 pellets, I started getting the desired results from 10 yards using the crisp Fiber Optic's. Shot about 3 pellets (Crosman Copperhead Wadcutters) into the 5 rupee-sized bullseye and now ready to bang some critters in a few hours time :D

dnkhan
25-09-2011, 03:07 PM
Thanks. And hunt pics :| , Dove and pigeon hunting is banned in Punjab maybe I can get a permission soon and I will p.m you the pics :D

Lookin fwd to it , brotha ;)

DRHUNTER
26-09-2011, 02:52 PM
Wonderful purchase, chaudhary sahib :)

DRHUNTER
26-09-2011, 03:01 PM
(http://www.pakguns.com/member.php?3199-Chauhadry)DEAR Chauhadry SB, can you please share the telephone number of the Badruddin and sons in Rawalpindi ? (http://www.pakguns.com/member.php?3199-Chauhadry)

[/URL]I am interested in Diana 34 and GAMO shadow 1000. If the correct and original thing is available in Pakistan then there is no need to bring it from Germany. Because here the prices are more compared to your inquired prices in Pakistan as one have to pay 20 % VAT (tax) for each luxury item in shop.
Regards.
Dr IQBAL.
[URL="http://www.pakguns.com/member.php?3199-Chauhadry"] (http://www.pakguns.com/member.php?3199-Chauhadry)

SHOTGUNNER
26-09-2011, 03:47 PM
congratulation chauhadry sahib
how did you buy this old chinese model your view has been changed since 25th of may 2011 in diana vs gamo thread. how did it happen.any way nice gun it will serve you for a long time.

Birdshooter007
26-09-2011, 05:47 PM
congratulation chauhadry sahib
how did you buy this old chinese model your view has been changed since 25th of may 2011 in diana vs gamo thread. how did it happen.any way nice gun it will serve you for a long time.
If up for finding faults, always get your facts straight. I never ever mentioned that the 350 magnum was an old chinese model (probably you can't read well coz I have written Diana 35 which particular weapon was 35+ years old and I said it is like the chinese ones and never said it was a chinese one. 350 magnum this is, do some research bro, then talk to me about it being chinese and all).And my view would still be the same for a medium budget hunter, a gamo which costs 20-24k. If you have the bucks, then only and only RWS Diana in Pak.
Any way, thanks for telling me it will serve long.

Birdshooter007
26-09-2011, 05:57 PM
(http://www.pakguns.com/member.php?3199-Chauhadry)DEAR Chauhadry SB, can you please share the telephone number of the Badruddin and sons in Rawalpindi ? (http://www.pakguns.com/member.php?3199-Chauhadry)

[/URL]I am interested in Diana 34 and GAMO shadow 1000. If the correct and original thing is available in Pakistan then there is no need to bring it from Germany. Because here the prices are more compared to your inquired prices in Pakistan as one have to pay 20 % VAT (tax) for each luxury item in shop.
Regards.
Dr IQBAL.
[URL="http://www.pakguns.com/member.php?3199-Chauhadry"] (http://www.pakguns.com/member.php?3199-Chauhadry)
The best price Gamo Shadow 1000 in Lahore or Pindi was from this particular shop, Rs20k. RWS 34's price was 32k final everywhere, same is the case here. But they just had the rws34 classic mostly in .177 caliber, others only in .22 cal. This shop had rws34 classic in .177 and .22, rws 34 premium in .22, and the rws 34 professional. The number is +92-51-5525226........the other no. is +92-51-5525229.

Hamdan Khan
26-09-2011, 06:55 PM
i have H&N rabbit magnum .22 caliber pellets....

Birdshooter007
26-09-2011, 07:10 PM
i have H&N rabbit magnum .22 caliber pellets

I don't want H&N rabbit magnum pellets, already have the tin of 200 that I bought from you (only used about 8 pellets till now). A forum member, Umair Bhaur's review/analysis of Diana airguns was an eye-opener. He said that ideal pellets for the 350 mag are 13-16 grains.. 24.69 grains H&N rabbit magnums put too much strain on the spring and it breaks before time. I also saw reviews of these pellets on different sites and they all stated that these pellets are very in-accurate and only reasonable hunting groups can be achieved upto 10 yards.... At 30 yards, an air-rifle was making 6 inch groups using these pellets, so I think instead of wasting 2400 rupees on these pellets, I should have had gotten some other ones.

Hamdan Khan
27-09-2011, 12:27 AM
H&N pellets are world class pellets use in Olympics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzLwrNujz0U umair bahur is not a air gunner or experienced person and chauhadry saab i am not offering you Dear.....

Hamdan Khan
27-09-2011, 12:29 AM
Dear give psychical prove why heavy pellets are not good.........

SHOTGUNNER
27-09-2011, 02:26 AM
chauhadry sahib i am so sorry if you felt it in bad way.i just went through that thread and read your post.i thought you was talking about all Diana models.indeed it is a good gun.

M.ASIF KHAN
27-09-2011, 09:21 AM
congratulation wonderful purchase Chaudhary sb

Birdshooter007
27-09-2011, 01:06 PM
Dear give psychical prove why heavy pellets are not good.........

Never said heavy pellets are not good............ I said these particular heavy pellets are not good due to accuracy !!!!!!!!

EDIT: Here you go Khan saab, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwaJR9mSvjI
15 different pellets tested penetration tested. Penentration rank of these pellets (H&N Rabbit Magnum 2's) is ranked 13/15. And the hole diameter is 14/15. Many other heavy pellets were also used, such as Beeman Kodiak's and Eun Jin's. :P

Birdshooter007
27-09-2011, 01:07 PM
chauhadry sahib i am so sorry if you felt it in bad way.i just went through that thread and read your post.i thought you was talking about all Diana models.indeed it is a good gun.
That's more like it ! Thanks!

Birdshooter007
27-09-2011, 01:25 PM
H&N pellets are world class pellets use in Olympics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzLwrNujz0U umair bahur is not a air gunner or experienced person and chauhadry saab i am not offering you Dear.....
1. I know H&N pellets are World Class Pellets, but their model, Rabbit Magnum II is not a world class pellet as far as accuracy is concerned.If the heavy built makes them world class, then see for yourself, the Eun Jin .22 cal pellets, 32.4 grains.http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Eun_Jin_22_Cal_32_4_Grains_Pointed_110ct/600.
2.They are not used in OLYMPICS, give me some proof.
3. I have already seen this video before and it has nothing to do with them being used for OLYMPICS.
4. How do you know Umair Bhaur is not an air gunner or experienced person (he can be much much more experienced than you,or in fact is).Personal attacks are not welcomed on PG and his knowlegde seems very helpful to us all, why not you?
5. If you do not agree with Umair Bhair's view, go to some good airgun site and read reviews of these pellets by some very experienced air gunners in the world :D
6. As your sentence was incomplete and did not mention that this offer is not for me, I take it as if you are offering me and I have all rights by sense to believe so. If you were trying to be 'helpful' to a handful of other PG members, why not post a separate thread about selling these pellets. Oh, BTW, Buying and selling is banned on the forum, and this is an offense.
7. I wonder if you are gonna be banned for this offer on the forum.
http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?7052-Want-to-sale-Pellets-of-H-amp-N-Rabbit-magnum2
Sir Denovo had closed your thread and see his comment: There will be no warning after that and administration is free to take necessary action on very next non-compliance.

Watch out for yourself, Khan Saab, the forum is not an illegal market place !!!!!
Best of luck for the sale :D

Birdshooter007
28-09-2011, 08:22 PM
Which pellets will be good for hunting and accurate at up to 40 yards with this gun, I believe RWS. Which RWS pellets should I get, Super Hollow points, Super domes or super point pellets.

Birdshooter007
29-09-2011, 12:55 PM
i have H&N rabbit magnum .22 caliber pellets ....
MODS!!!!!!!!! Attention Required :D

Umair Bhaur
29-09-2011, 03:01 PM
Which pellets will be good for hunting and accurate at up to 40 yards with this gun, I believe RWS. Which RWS pellets should I get, Super Hollow points, Super domes or super point pellets.
Dear,
The best pellets in RWS for hunting are Super Domes. If you have magnum springer then Super Hollow Point will also do good job. But never Super Point.

I also request all airgunners to press the gun dealers to arrange Crossman Premier Dome pellets. These are proven, best pellets in low cost. The same dealers who arrange Gamo Pro Magnum can arrange Crossman also. But we need to create demand.

Birdshooter007
29-09-2011, 03:09 PM
Dear,
The best pellets in RWS for hunting are Super Domes. If you have magnum springer then Super Hollow Point will also do good job. But never Super Point.

I also request all airgunners to press the gun dealers to arrange Crossman Premier Dome pellets. These are proven, best pellets in low cost. The same dealers who arrange Gamo Pro Magnum can arrange Crossman also. But we need to create demand.

At what range should I zero my 350 feuerkraft with open sights for hunting? Will 10-15 yards do?

haji
29-09-2011, 06:59 PM
At what range should I zero my 350 feuerkraft with open sights for hunting? Will 10-15 yards do?

20 to 25 meters will do the job!
and congrats for the new RWS

Birdshooter007
29-09-2011, 10:02 PM
20 to 25 meters will do the job!
and congrats for the new RWS
Thanks! And BTW I tried shooting it at 18 yards with iron sights... The bullseye was the size of a 5 rupee coin. I could hardly see it and think it will be zeroed more easily at 10 yards as i am using the open sight, 20-25 meters is like 30 meters. Once it is zeroed, I can see the results from 18-20 yards.

shahid.bashir
07-10-2011, 01:23 AM
please add scope like this (with mount) and i hope u feel better?

DRHUNTER
07-10-2011, 03:42 PM
AOA,
dear all i want a scope for diana 34 OR 350 magnum. Please guide me that which scope shall i buy.
I have three possibilities.

BSA 3-9x50 rifle scope


BSA 3-9x40 rifle scope


Leapers 3-9X40 Full Size Range Estimating Mil-dot


Please guide me that which one would be compatible to both of guns. I have no experiences of scopes.


Thanks

Birdshooter007
07-10-2011, 03:46 PM
please add scope like this (with mount) and i hope u feel better?

Yes I am gonna mount a scope on it with a single piece mount but a few months later. That will be if someone is coming from USA, I'll ask him to bring a good scope for me.

DRHUNTER
08-10-2011, 10:02 PM
AOA,
dear all i want a scope for diana 34 OR 350 magnum. Please guide me that which scope shall i buy.
I have three possibilities.

BSA 3-9x50 rifle scope


BSA 3-9x40 rifle scope


Leapers 3-9X40 Full Size Range Estimating Mil-dot


Please guide me that which one would be compatible to both of guns. I have no experiences of scopes.


Thanks

PakistanFirst
09-10-2011, 12:34 AM
DR HUNTER,

May I suggest the Leapers 3-9X40. The reticle (cross-hair) on this scope is mil-dot calibrated. But, the turrets (knobs to make vertical & horizontal adjustments) are MOA calibrated. Each click represents 1/4 inch at 100 yards, 1/8 inch at 50 yards, 1/16 inch at 25 yards.

DRHUNTER
10-10-2011, 02:18 AM
AOA
@ dear pakistanfirst, will the Leapers 3-9X40 be feasible for very hunting at very small distance. I mean that a powerful scope for hunting at 10 OR 15 m distance. If it is so, then i can but it. Thanks for this help and guide.

Alvi
10-10-2011, 09:36 AM
Bravo .. I got a Whisper from Badruddin .. in 23.5K .. happy so far but as they say ... woh baat nahi

PakistanFirst
10-10-2011, 08:52 PM
DR HUNTER,

Leapers 3-9X40 has adjustable objective lens to correct for parallax. The adjustment distance range is from 5 yards (4 1/2 meters) to infinity. What you see with the naked eye, you will be able to see the same object 3 times farther with the scope set at 3 power and likewise, 9 times farther with the scope set at 9 power.

Bear in mind that when shooting at short distances, the pellet may land above the center of the rifle bore and below the center of the scope sight as the the scope is mounted above the bore.

When you zero a rifle, you in fact zero the rifle for two distances at the same time. For short distance shooting you need to know the "first zero" distance. This is the distance where center of the scope and center of the bore converge for the first time. In everyday discussions, it is the "second zero" distance or the second convergence distance that is called the zero set distance.

To determine the first and second zero distance you need to know the following: height of scope above rifle bore, muzzle velocity, pellet weight and and ballistic coefficient (BC). The BC is a numerical measure of the projectile's ability to overcome air resistance in flight. Higher BC represents a more aeordynamic shape of the pellet. For many popular pellets, BC is available on the net.

DRHUNTER
11-10-2011, 04:52 PM
AOA
@ dear pakistanfirst, i am thankful to you for this valuable information. It will really help me for scope adjustment. I will buy the said item. thanks again for your help.

RASHID0938
13-12-2011, 02:25 AM
Dear Chauhdary Sahib,

I m impressed to see ur enthusiasm in air rifles. and above all ue last deal of 350 Magnum.

1.Can u tell that what is the major difference in performance other than recoil factor since u ve used it by now. and moreover what are the differences in appearance of Both normal and classic 350.

2.I ve recently seen SAG AR 2000 in a shop. It is Chinese made gun. Price asked was 35 k and after negotiations he was ready to sell in 28 k. It looked to me a fine piece with a long barrel. Can u quote me its price from Rwp or any thing about its performance.

3.I d also appreciate if u can give me contact no of badar sons.

Thanks in anticipation.

s.cheema
13-12-2011, 08:56 AM
from what i have seen, there is no other difference between the classic and the regular model except the sights and the stock

LionHeart
13-12-2011, 10:05 AM
3.I d also appreciate if u can give me contact no of badar sons.




Contact number of Badaruddin & Son
051-5525229, 051-5525226

I hope it will help.

regards,

Birdshooter007
13-12-2011, 10:34 AM
Dear Chauhdary Sahib,

I m impressed to see ur enthusiasm in air rifles. and above all ue last deal of 350 Magnum.

1.Can u tell that what is the major difference in performance other than recoil factor since u ve used it by now. and moreover what are the differences in appearance of Both normal and classic 350.

2.I ve recently seen SAG AR 2000 in a shop. It is Chinese made gun. Price asked was 35 k and after negotiations he was ready to sell in 28 k. It looked to me a fine piece with a long barrel. Can u quote me its price from Rwp or any thing about its performance.

3.I d also appreciate if u can give me contact no of badar sons.

Thanks in anticipation.


Contact number of Badaruddin & Son
051-5525229, 051-5525226

I hope it will help.

regards,

Contact number was given on the first page too.

I would never recommend a Chinese airgun, never heard of it or seen it in anywhere (SAG AR 2000). Chinese airguns, as I know, are not durable and the claimed fps is highly exaggerated. The springs wear off after a few hundred shots. Even if I was going to get a Chinese airgun, I'd get a Stoegar or Ruger. However as I have not experienced the gun you are talking about, I can't comment, personally I'd never par 35k or 28k on a Chinese airgun, that too which I have never heard of. The choice is yours.
The appearance of the regular 350magnum can be seen in my other thread:- Raised cheek-piece, Rubber recoil pad, checkering, and cheap iron sights.
What I love about the classic variant is the long-sleek finely-grained stock, which makes the gun more balanced than the other one mentioned, though weight difference is just 200 grams or so (classic is just 200 grams lighter). Secondly it has no recoil pad. Thirdly, I like the fiber optic sights. Recoil difference is just due to fine tuning of this gun, I think it has a 20% milder recoil than the other one I had. The raised cheek piece on the other 350mag made shooting pleasure less. The stock used to hit my jaws. Probably this was due to the barrel slightly tilting upwards, should be fine. Overall, I like the classic 350 much more and it's prettier.
To utilize the power, a scope is a must.

fluffmaster
17-12-2011, 01:11 PM
very nice purchase,,,safe and longev hunting

Birdshooter007
17-12-2011, 02:47 PM
Thanks fluffmaster.

Birdshooter007
15-03-2012, 10:15 PM
Hurray!!! :dance:
My Hunting Companion - UPGRADED!
Finally!!!
Shukar Alhamdullilah!
Inserted a Diana Bipod, a Diana 1 piece Lockdown mount and a Leapers 4-16X50AO
Though now it weighs no less than a Boulder or a .50BMG!!!

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raja yasir
15-03-2012, 11:39 PM
finally you got it so did you zero the scope ,and where and for how much you got the mount and bipod.

Birdshooter007
16-03-2012, 12:25 AM
Got the scope more like one and a half months ago from USA through a relative, but they misplaced the RWS 1pc mount I ordered along with the scope.
So after alot of struggle to find a Diana 1pc mount, got it 2 days ago from Baksh Ellahee LHE for 8k (the one I ordered from the US was for $25, same thing).
The bipod I think was for 3k from a guy I get pellets from? :wave:
And I'll zero it in the morning.

raja yasir
16-03-2012, 12:37 AM
though you have already spent money on bipod but its not very useful in airguns with recoil and is not much of a use in hunting in any airgun.

Birdshooter007
16-03-2012, 12:10 PM
Quite useful to me, my gun weighs a whole boulder now... and I get doves in my backyard with the bipod.
Have to agree on that point, bipods are not useful for ANY single shot airguns. They work well with repeaters.

Birdshooter007
16-03-2012, 02:17 PM
Currently unable to zero it, shots are going atleast 1 1/2 inch down.. Swinging the knob where it says up but its still hitting there.

raja yasir
16-03-2012, 02:29 PM
Currently unable to zero it, shots are going atleast 1 1/2 inch down.. Swinging the knob where it says up but its still hitting there.
I knew that will happen that's why i asked ,i know a way to fix this problem,you wont find it any where else on net.

Birdshooter007
16-03-2012, 02:31 PM
Hahahah, so plz tell the solution :D

raja yasir
16-03-2012, 02:50 PM
Hahahah, so plz tell the solution :D
I was serious but you think its a joke then its upto you.

Birdshooter007
16-03-2012, 02:56 PM
Oh Bhai, I never took it as a joke, I'm saying plz share it so I can benefit, the mount keeps slipping back after 20-30 shots, thou its a Diana 1pc mount.

raja yasir
16-03-2012, 03:00 PM
Ok in that case ,call me up i am mailing you my cell it will be better to explain.

Birdshooter007
16-03-2012, 03:23 PM
Your phone is powered off.

raja yasir
16-03-2012, 04:55 PM
sorry i just checked it was poweroff please call

mayorajpoot5
21-03-2012, 07:40 PM
Congratulations bhai gee

remington
15-04-2012, 07:55 PM
are 350 classic still available there

Birdshooter007
15-04-2012, 08:14 PM
Have no clue, for this very reason I've posted the shop's telephone numbers here.

Muhammad m
16-04-2012, 12:43 AM
mashallah the entire appearance has changed and im sure the experience too is even better

Muhammad m
16-04-2012, 12:46 AM
im sure if our police wala in KHI see's this , he will claim he has caught a SNIPER target killer :p
The gun looks awesome enough.
And its a compliment

SHIEKH TARIQ UK
16-04-2012, 10:59 PM
SALAM.
Chauhdry saab I should be in PAKISTAN next week. INSHAH-ALAH.
SH TARIQ UK.

shakeel durrani
17-04-2012, 08:45 PM
@Ch bro
hows ur new scope going on this gun?do update us about the quality of leapers scope!

Birdshooter007
17-04-2012, 09:55 PM
Scope quality is great but 350M is not that accurate.

SHIEKH TARIQ UK
17-04-2012, 10:31 PM
Scope quality is great but 350M is not that accurate.
SALAM.
CHAUHDRY SAAB to make your 350 more accurate you should strip the gun clean out all the factory grease and put the white grease polish the trigger sears and if possible put buttens on the piston. I can guarantee you that this will totally transform your gun. This will make it less twangy and more accurate and smooth.
There is a lot of information on the net.
SH TARIQ UK.

shakeel durrani
17-04-2012, 11:47 PM
Scope quality is great but 350M is not that accurate.
if your gun is inaccurate with FO open sights or scope?
does the scope holds zero for a couple of hundred shots or fails to do so?
regarding inaccuracy;-
if its with scope then u need to focus on the screws of mount and gun,i doubt if they r loosening with each successive pellet fired!
if u r facing same problem with open sights then the culprit is not the ammo neither the gun (barrel) itself! its some thing else!

raja yasir
18-04-2012, 01:01 AM
if your gun is inaccurate with FO open sights or scope?
does the scope holds zero for a couple of hundred shots or fails to do so?
regarding inaccuracy;-
if its with scope then u need to focus on the screws of mount and gun,i doubt if they r loosening with each successive pellet fired!
if u r facing same problem with open sights then the culprit is not the ammo neither the gun (barrel) itself! its some thing else!
Ch bro is right the gun it self is not that accurate.out of all my airguns 350 the most inaccurate airgun.what shiekh tariq bro is suggesting might just work.

shakeel durrani
18-04-2012, 01:34 AM
Ch bro is right the gun it self is not that accurate.out of all my airguns 350 the most inaccurate airgun.what shiekh tariq bro is suggesting might just work.
can u give some more detail about inaccuracy? is it performing same with the scope and open sights?

raja yasir
18-04-2012, 01:45 AM
Bro this air gun is not that bad but i am spoiled by the dead accuracy of my other guns specially mod 56 then 35 and 36 .The 350 is working with diana high power and h&n barecuda only out of 10 different pellets i tried.and the worst thing about this gun is that it broke two of my scopes witch were very hard to get from uk,i hate it for that ,will change this gun soon.

shakeel durrani
18-04-2012, 01:47 AM
Bro this air gun is not that bad but i am spoiled by the dead accuracy of my other guns specially mod 56 then 35 and 36 .The 350 is working with diana high power and h&n barecuda only out of 10 different pellets i tried.and the worst this about this gun is that it broke two of my scopes witch were very hard to get from uk,i hate it for that ,will change this gun soon.
oh...sad to hear about those scopes,its the main problem of diana guns that they r scope eaters especially when u move up to magnum line!

Birdshooter007
18-04-2012, 09:44 AM
SALAM.
CHAUHDRY SAAB to make your 350 more accurate you should strip the gun clean out all the factory grease and put the white grease polish the trigger sears and if possible put buttens on the piston. I can guarantee you that this will totally transform your gun. This will make it less twangy and more accurate and smooth.
There is a lot of information on the net.
SH TARIQ UK.
Thanks for the tips.... but I don't think the stuff would be available here and I don't know all the inners of it :/



if your gun is inaccurate with FO open sights or scope?
does the scope holds zero for a couple of hundred shots or fails to do so?
regarding inaccuracy;-
if its with scope then u need to focus on the screws of mount and gun,i doubt if they r loosening with each successive pellet fired!
if u r facing same problem with open sights then the culprit is not the ammo neither the gun (barrel) itself! its some thing else!
The scope holds zero.
I don't have many pellets to test so don't have a greater clue.
Without scope some pellets were giving 1inch groups at 15yards (Crosman Copperhead Wadcutters) that's Ok for hunting.
But as I said it's not too accurate.
With the scope I haven't shot at long range, and 9/10 dove shots are kills, this shows groups are good for hunting... but not for lets say; a bottle's cap at 50 yards (without tuning)
As I don't do much but hunt, It's an ideal gun for me for small game and birds out to long ranges I think

Regarding Leapers 5th Generation Scopes (if yours doesn't turn out to be a defective piece [very low probability in 5th gen]), it's the best scope money can get within a budget.

Performs as good as scopes 10x it's price!
Specifically recoil proof for magnum air rifles, handles zero for hundreds of shots for big bore rifles.
A guy even had one on his .300WinMag and he said his has been through 40 shots and fine till now.

taha
18-04-2012, 10:24 AM
Bro this air gun is not that bad but i am spoiled by the dead accuracy of my other guns specially mod 56 then 35 and 36 .The 350 is working with diana high power and h&n barecuda only out of 10 different pellets i tried.and the worst thing about this gun is that it broke two of my scopes witch were very hard to get from uk,i hate it for that ,will change this gun soon.
Any idea whats going to be latest price of Diana 35 NIB in Khi?

raja yasir
18-04-2012, 12:28 PM
AS i mentioned earlier i did some tuning to my mod 35 as it had recoil near to 350 magnum.After the tune 75% of recoil is gone the gun cocks real smooth and 50% more accurate and fun to shoot,It is worth a try on 350 mag if proper lubricants are available.

raja yasir
18-04-2012, 12:30 PM
Any idea whats going to be latest price of Diana 35 NIB in Khi?
Bro it should be between 28 to 32 k in t06 trigger.

Birdshooter007
18-04-2012, 12:51 PM
How to tune it?

SHIEKH TARIQ UK
18-04-2012, 02:27 PM
How to tune it?
SALAM.
Bahi saab google it there is plenty of information.
SH TARIQ UK.

raja yasir
18-04-2012, 06:50 PM
How to tune it?
The basic idea is to open the main chamber clean it up and lubricate ,also lube some of the moving components ,and apply a bit grease to the main spring.and ch bro you must try diana high power pellets,They will defiantly work better then diana magnums in 350.

Birdshooter007
18-04-2012, 08:28 PM
But I say 5rs/pellet is too much (for Diana Magnums compared to 1-2rs/pellet of other good ones) and that guy is selling Diana High Power ones for 10rs/pellets (double the price)... I better buy a .22LR if the dreadful time has come to buy airgun ammo for Rs10/pc.

raja yasir
18-04-2012, 09:01 PM
But I say 5rs/pellet is too much (for Diana Magnums compared to 1-2rs/pellet of other good ones) and that guy is selling Diana High Power ones for 10rs/pellets (double the price)... I better buy a .22LR if the dreadful time has come to buy airgun ammo for Rs10/pc.
There could be other ways to get those from usa or uk.i got h&n baracuda pellets for rs 850 per 200 box ,and they work better then diana high power in 56 and 350 mag.

Birdshooter007
18-04-2012, 10:04 PM
Good! I got H&N Rabbit Magnum II from him for 11rs/pellet (regret it now, awful ammo)
Just a little wait, then I'll import some ammo and most probably upgrade to mightier firepower for hunting by next season Inshallah.

raja yasir
19-04-2012, 12:19 AM
Good! I got H&N Rabbit Magnum II from him for 11rs/pellet (regret it now, awful ammo)
Just a little wait, then I'll import some ammo and most probably upgrade to mightier firepower for hunting by next season Inshallah.
H&n Rabbit mag are the most inaccurate pellets that's for shore i still got some that he gave me as sample,but the h&n barracuda is really nice and accurate pellet.

junaid ali
10-05-2012, 06:48 PM
chaudhry sb great purchase . want to ask that is it german im confused with discussion of chinese and german in this thread.

Birdshooter007
10-05-2012, 07:01 PM
chaudhry sb great purchase . want to ask that is it german im confused with discussion of chinese and german in this thread.
Diana is GERMAN

junaid ali
10-05-2012, 07:07 PM
chaudry sb can i get ur email id?

junaid ali
10-05-2012, 07:32 PM
can i join u on facebook????

Birdshooter007
14-05-2012, 11:58 PM
Shot the gun after a loooong time and achieved the best groups so far with it, though not the best the gun is capable of, (perhaps I concentrated a bit);

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/videos002.jpg

Scope cams are coool
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/videos005.jpg

Okay... over to the groups;
The encircled holes are those of (4) AIR ARMS DIABOLO pellets. They are certainly more tight groupers but the problem was bent skirts with the few I had, thus the group was scattered.

Then over to the (3) DIANA MAGNUM pellets. 0.6Inch group at 20yds, about 1inch at 40?!? Commendable for a hunting rifle I guess! Though it can get even better.

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/videos006.jpg

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/videos007.jpg

Another target (5 shots) around 20yds, around 0.7in.
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/videos008.jpg

junaid ali
15-05-2012, 10:03 AM
great pics chaudry sb scope is awesome elabourate its details

Birdshooter007
15-05-2012, 12:54 PM
Details of this scope are already mentioned in this thread, kindly skim through the pages.

junaid ali
15-05-2012, 09:52 PM
chaudry sb what is the difference between 35o magnum and 350 Feuerkraft

Birdshooter007
15-05-2012, 10:05 PM
350 Magnum and 350 Fuerkraft (classic).
Simple 350M has checkering on stock, rubber recoil pad, iron sights, is heavier, shorter forearm.
350M Classic has a plain classical stock, plastic butt pad, fiber optic sights, is heavier, and has a long sleek stock.
Same power plant.

junaid ali
15-05-2012, 10:11 PM
thanks for the kind information

junaid ali
15-05-2012, 10:39 PM
chaudry sb if i get leapers scope from my friend in canada will i be able to get its mounts in lahore. or the mounts are universal? means they can fit on any scope??????????/

Birdshooter007
15-05-2012, 11:12 PM
Depends whether you get one with a 30mm tube or a 1in tube. You'll need the same mount sizes respective of the scope's tube diameter. Yes you can get the mount from Lahore at 4x the price.

junaid ali
16-05-2012, 10:33 AM
chaudry sb didnt understand ur last line "from Lahore at 4x the price." will u please explain it a little

raja yasir
16-05-2012, 10:42 AM
chaudry sb didnt understand ur last line "from Lahore at 4x the price." will u please explain it a little
he means 4 times more then the original price.

junaid ali
16-05-2012, 10:51 AM
any estimate yasir brther????? aslam o alikum good to see you

Birdshooter007
16-05-2012, 10:55 AM
chaudry sb didnt understand ur last line "from Lahore at 4x the price." will u please explain it a little
In America the mount costs 2200rs converted from dollars off course, while in Pakistan people are skinned, 8500rs/mount. But which gun do you want to scope?

junaid ali
16-05-2012, 10:57 AM
gamo shadow 1000

junaid ali
16-05-2012, 10:58 AM
i like ur 350 very much trying to increase my budget and purchase 350 hahahhahaah

Birdshooter007
16-05-2012, 11:02 AM
gamo shadow 10000
Not sure whether Gamo makes a Shadow 10,000, most certainly you meant 1000? It's worth 19-21k.

junaid ali
16-05-2012, 11:05 AM
oh sorry my mistake its 1000 sorry

junaid ali
16-05-2012, 11:06 AM
will leapers 3.9 * 40 mm mildots fix on shadow 1000 and do the job??????

Birdshooter007
16-05-2012, 11:38 AM
Any scope that zeroes will suffice.

First check out the rails on your gun, then get mounts that fit on the rails that is mostly 11mm dovetail. The mount's dia. and scope dia. should be equal.

raja yasir
16-05-2012, 12:19 PM
i like ur 350 very much trying to increase my budget and purchase 350 hahahhahaah
If budget is your problem then get hatsan 125 sniper.google it you will get it around 18 to 22k. it has lot of benefits.

wild.hunter250
16-05-2012, 08:26 PM
If budget is your problem then get hatsan 125 sniper.google it you will get it around 18 to 22k. it has lot of benefits.

hatsan 125 is available in pakistan yasir bahi?

raja yasir
16-05-2012, 10:04 PM
hatsan 125 is available in pakistan yasir bahi?yes its available with some dealers in Lahore and Peshawar.

Khan09
17-05-2012, 09:52 AM
@raja yasir,where can i find the hatsan in peshawar?

jog3ee
23-05-2012, 11:59 PM
Where can i but a Hatsan 125 in karachi anybody has any idea??? If i fail my quest of finding one, i'll have to burden my wife dearest to bring me that as she's travelling to the U.S next month along with the scope, mounts and ammo. But i'd rather pay a little extra here for the gun to save her the hassle :) and get the rest of the accessories from over there. So, any1 has ANY idea???

Birdshooter007
01-06-2012, 10:34 PM
Shot many doves when I mounted the scope, also shot a mongoose with a neck/head shot which was wounding my rabbits...
this is just a picture I took of a palm dove (totru) with it;
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/pigeon011.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/TVclips007.jpg

jog3ee
01-06-2012, 10:38 PM
Share the mongoose pic as well if you have taken it!!

Birdshooter007
01-06-2012, 10:43 PM
Nooo didn't take a pic, would've been quite vulgar.
I do have a mongoose pic my leashed dog killed, wanna see it?

jog3ee
02-06-2012, 12:14 AM
hahaha no it must've been pretty badly mauled by your dog. Just wanted to see the head/neck shot and how much damage it did.

fezan
04-06-2012, 02:52 AM
Dear Chauhdry, I would seek your expert opinion on my recent purchase. I bought a Gamo Deltafox last week. This is my first AirGun and I do not have much knowledge and information on the subject. Reason, why I bought this gun, was NOTHING specifically. I visited one arms shop in Islamabad by chance and saw this gun on display. It was quite compact and fitted well on me. So I bought it, thinking to do some rifle practice and later give it to my son when he will be old enough.
I had a spare BSA red/green dot sight which i fitted over this gun and zero'd it from 10 meters. I got .22 mag pro pallets with this gun. Now pls guide me, if this is the right ammo for this piece? From what I have experienced so far, this is not a professional gun - at beginners level may be, so what ammo would best suit it and can serve my purpose?
-Regards

fezan
04-06-2012, 02:54 AM
I paid 13K for this gun, it was new but without packing. I hope i didnt pay too much for it..

Birdshooter007
04-06-2012, 10:08 AM
You paid OK, I don't know much about Gamo but Delta cadet was around 11k... get Gamo match pellets for target shooting.

fezan
04-06-2012, 05:55 PM
Thanks a lot. Just to add more information to my knowledge, how will you differentiate deltafox or delta cadet rifles from the series you guys are talking about i.e. 350 or RWS etc. Is it power, FPS or caliber.
And what is magnum in airguns?

s.cheema
04-06-2012, 06:13 PM
everything is different except for the caliber. The magnums have a bigger more powerful spring which can make higher muzzle velocities possible

Birdshooter007
04-06-2012, 08:10 PM
Thanks a lot. Just to add more information to my knowledge, how will you differentiate deltafox or delta cadet rifles from the series you guys are talking about i.e. 350 or RWS etc. Is it power, FPS or caliber.
And what is magnum in airguns?
They're absolute beginners, low-powered air rifles while Diana RWS 350 is a high power spring gun.

fezan
05-06-2012, 02:00 PM
Thanks a lot guys. Last question! is there a difference between an airgun and a spring rifle? i though all airguns have spring mechanism in them. Anything different I knew was semi-auto C02 powered pallet rifles/pistols but I guess these are not available in Pakistan.

Ahmad82
05-06-2012, 03:59 PM
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if somebody online please tell me how to use this site

Birdshooter007
05-06-2012, 04:29 PM
Thanks a lot guys. Last question! is there a difference between an airgun and a spring rifle? i though all airguns have spring mechanism in them. Anything different I knew was semi-auto C02 powered pallet rifles/pistols but I guess these are not available in Pakistan.
Airgun, Air rifle, Pellet gun, Pellet rifle, Spring gun, are all used for the same mechanism } a projectile accelerated by air.

Different types of airguns exist,
.springers/spring rifles or pistols in which the pellet is powered by a spring.
.CO2 rifles or pistols....yes they're rare in Pakistan but do exist here, but they suck.
.PCPs the latest airguns/pistols and an absolute pleasure to shoot and certainly not available in Pakistan.

Birdshooter007
24-09-2012, 10:46 PM
7 types of pellets, 5 shot groupings at 25yds. Coming up tomorrow!

treble
24-09-2012, 11:18 PM
cant wait to see the guns performance .

treble
24-09-2012, 11:20 PM
and i really feel sorry for you that your gun did not sell.

Birdshooter007
25-09-2012, 10:50 AM
Done, pics and writeup will be uploaded in the afternoon.

Khilji
25-09-2012, 02:40 PM
Waiting for it my dear brother

Birdshooter007
25-09-2012, 06:45 PM
Diana 350 Classic with RWS 1pc Lockdown Mount and Leapers 4-16x50AO
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/shootn004.jpg

I was complaining about the lack of quality and durability of Diana airguns nowadays, and mentioned that somehow while loading a small chip came off from the fore end's inside.
Here it is:
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/shootn005.jpg

Diana air rifles don't come properly factory oiled/lubed which causes lot of recoil and accuracy suffers.
They've started replacing some parts with cheap plastic.
Some 1200 shots have been fired from this one, and still cocking takes ALOT of effort.
Recoil is such that it would hurt your collar bone if you don't place the gun properly, it's too heavy for an air rifle.
The screws on the gun are so prone to loosening that you have to tighten them after like every 10-15 shots, otherwise again accuracy suffers.

Shockingly when I saw the airgun today I noticed that the rear sight was broken, somehow, I can't think of how it happened as it was lying in it's box before and was fine when I kept it... Diana's quality is really really ****
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/shootn006.jpg

Lets get to the groupings,
5 shots each at 25yds, gun rested on pillow above table, using artillery hole.

Gamo Pro Magnums, some really rubbish ones (the ones I reviewed)
Only 2 pellets were on the paper out of 5
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/shootn001.jpg
H&N Wadcutters (green sticker on tin)
4 shots visible on paper out of 5, 3 1/2in group excluding the flier
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/shootn002.jpg
H&N Rabbit Magnum II, 4 shots on the paper out of 5, 3in group excluding the flier
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/shootn003.jpg
Ultramag 26.4gn, 5 shots, 2in group
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/shootn007.jpg
5 shots of defiant 14gn, 2in group. If it weren't for the flier they grouped well.
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/shootn008.jpg
AirArms Field Diabolo, 3 shots on paper, 2 just below
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/shootn009.jpg
Crosman Premier Ultra magnum, 1/2 in group because of flier (I actually aimed a bit below).... otherwise the size would be even smaller.
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/shootn011.jpg

Khilji
25-09-2012, 08:17 PM
Great work birdshooter bro quite informative

treble
25-09-2012, 10:40 PM
not a very nice grouping with a top notch springer but maybe bad pellets made the groups wider.

jog3ee
26-09-2012, 12:20 PM
Chauhdary Sahb! VERY informative write-up :) and VERY confusing result. The groups range between 1/2 inch - 3 1/2 inches; what could be the reason behind this incontinent result? Could it be that this one gun is unfortunately a lemon? or is it because Diana 350 mag is VERY pellet picky? Is it possible that tuning may improve results?

rockstar
26-09-2012, 01:17 PM
That,s Great Chauhdary bro ... people now really now about accuracy and Quality of Diana 350 i think 350 is the worst model from Diana

jog3ee
26-09-2012, 02:08 PM
That,s Great Chauhdary bro ... people now really now about accuracy and Quality of Diana 350 i think 350 is the worst model from Diana

That's a harsh statement my friend :) There has to be a reason why the 350 Mag gathers 4.5-5 star reviews all across the internet. What I see here is quite astonishing, I'm surprised myself but that may well mean there is something wrong with this gun.

rockstar
26-09-2012, 02:48 PM
That's a harsh statement my friend :) There has to be a reason why the 350 Mag gathers 4.5-5 star reviews all across the internet. What I see here is quite astonishing, I'm surprised myself but that may well mean there is something wrong with this gun.
Dear jog3ee i have used 3 types of Diana 350 magnum and all were inaccurate and there are lot of members of pakguns have also used 350 all are unsatisfied with that..

iffi
26-09-2012, 03:19 PM
birdshooter bro Very NICE

jog3ee
26-09-2012, 04:18 PM
Dear jog3ee i have used 3 types of Diana 350 magnum and all were inaccurate and there are lot of members of pakguns have also used 350 all are unsatisfied with that..
Hmmmm! Is it possible that the imported lot was a faulty one??

Birdshooter007
26-09-2012, 04:27 PM
not a very nice grouping with a top notch springer but maybe bad pellets made the groups wider.
Top notch springer.... ahem ahem....

Chauhdary Sahb! VERY informative write-up :) and VERY confusing result. The groups range between 1/2 inch - 3 1/2 inches; what could be the reason behind this incontinent result? Could it be that this one gun is unfortunately a lemon? or is it because Diana 350 mag is VERY pellet picky? Is it possible that tuning may improve results?
Rabbit Magnum II 24.69gn is too heavy for a 20-22fpe spring gun, and it's shape makes it totally inaccurate in all airguns. Plus it is 5.55 head size so doesn't sit well in the chamber.
UltraMag 26.4gn is again too heavy for the gun, and some pellets have bent skirts.
Gamo Pro Magnum - Worst lead out of the lot, I won't call them pellets.
Air Arms, Defiant both are pellets specially designed for PCPs, and work well in some, bad in others. For example in BSA airguns both these pellets are mostly the best accuracy holders. While other PCP owners complain of inaccuracy with these.
Surprisingly 3 or 4 out of 5 shots grouped well with the defiants, but in both groups I tried, there were fliers.
Crosman Premier Ultra Magnums are one of the best pellets around and are the best for some airguns. Also, if there is something wrong with this gun, I was getting the same mediocre groups with a normal 350.

That,s Great Chauhdary bro ... people now really now about accuracy and Quality of Diana 350 i think 350 is the worst model from Diana
Infact all their spring guns except maybe 54Airking are inconsistent. Like the new Diana 45 T06, didn't even penetrate an empty plastic bottle at 40yds.

rockstar
27-09-2012, 01:15 AM
Hmmmm! Is it possible that the imported lot was a faulty one??
Dear what can i say you...i think you know better about air rifle than me

DRHUNTER
27-09-2012, 01:26 AM
Dear All,
I brought 3 days before DIANA 34 classic with BSA 3-9X44 Air Rifle Scope from Vienna to Pakistan. This air rifle scope is especially for air rifles. What i did mistake was to forget some imported pellets with me :(. Today i mounted scope on mine diana and used Irani spike nosed pellets. Some pellets gave good results but many of them were dis tracked.
The main problem was that the pellets were hitting lower on same place even after adjusting the scope.
The gun also has very strong recoil. Can any body please tell me that is it necessary to brake air rifle before installing air rifle scope on it or not? Also about greasing or oiling it. I brought one extra spring and piston seal with me.
I could not take pictures of scope and targets.
Please Help especially the experts :).

Regards,

Khilji
27-09-2012, 01:40 AM
Dr if your air gun is new kindly shoot 500 -600 pellets before installing the scope, which mounting you are using with scope may be the scope is moving backward check this out

raja yasir
27-09-2012, 08:41 AM
Dear All,
I brought 3 days before DIANA 34 classic with BSA 3-9X44 Air Rifle Scope from Vienna to Pakistan. This air rifle scope is especially for air rifles. What i did mistake was to forget some imported pellets with me :(. Today i mounted scope on mine diana and used Irani spike nosed pellets. Some pellets gave good results but many of them were dis tracked.
The main problem was that the pellets were hitting lower on same place even after adjusting the scope.
The gun also has very strong recoil. Can any body please tell me that is it necessary to brake air rifle before installing air rifle scope on it or not? Also about greasing or oiling it. I brought one extra spring and piston seal with me.
I could not take pictures of scope and targets.
Please Help especially the experts :).

Regards,
Dear dr hunter you should atleast use orignal gamo magnums or even gamo match available in market to get accuracy out of your diana .Also tight all screws on stock.

raja yasir
27-09-2012, 08:55 AM
That's a harsh statement my friend :) There has to be a reason why the 350 Mag gathers 4.5-5 star reviews all across the internet. What I see here is quite astonishing, I'm surprised myself but that may well mean there is something wrong with this gun.
jog3ee bro i dont have huge experience like you but tried out 9 350 magnums till now wont complain on target at first but the huge spring action makes even the stock nuts lose after a while and the zero keeps on shifting .Also these gun are very bad for scopes have to change best kind of scopes after a season or half.Even birdshooter007 almost broke his original leapers scope while making his review and also his stock broke during recoil.But still i would go for 350 pro compact panther in .22 with vortex kit.

jog3ee
27-09-2012, 10:52 AM
jog3ee bro i dont have huge experience like you but tried out 9 350 magnums till now wont complain on target at first but the huge spring action makes even the stock nuts lose after a while and the zero keeps on shifting .Also these gun are very bad for scopes have to change best kind of scopes after a season or half.Even birdshooter007 almost broke his original leapers scope while making his review and also his stock broke during recoil.But still i would go for 350 pro compact panther in .22 with vortex kit.

Oh come on raja sahb :) my experience is nothing compared to yours! Kiun Sharminda kar rahay hain aap sir ji :)

Umair Bhaur
27-09-2012, 05:30 PM
Dear All,
I brought 3 days before DIANA 34 classic with BSA 3-9X44 Air Rifle Scope from Vienna to Pakistan. This air rifle scope is especially for air rifles. What i did mistake was to forget some imported pellets with me :(. Today i mounted scope on mine diana and used Irani spike nosed pellets. Some pellets gave good results but many of them were dis tracked.
The main problem was that the pellets were hitting lower on same place even after adjusting the scope.
The gun also has very strong recoil. Can any body please tell me that is it necessary to brake air rifle before installing air rifle scope on it or not? Also about greasing or oiling it. I brought one extra spring and piston seal with me.
I could not take pictures of scope and targets.
Please Help especially the experts :).

Regards,

Dear DRHUNTER,

1. BSA scopes are not the best scopes for spring guns.
2. Your Diana 34 has some barrel droop
3. You should once achieve optical centre of your scope before further experementation.
4. After achieving Optical center, your gun will hit about 5 inches low at 25 yards
5. Now you will need a drooper mount or adjustable one piece lockdown mount
6. Keep the stock screws properly tight (not over tight)
7. Without touching the optical centre, your gun should hit the target at the most 1.5 inches away from the point of aim
8. For that much adjustment you should use the scope's horizental and vertical adjustments.
9. Zero your gun at 30 yards
10. What is the parallax of your scope?
11. If its fixed paralax scope then the paralax should not be more than 35 yards
12. If adjustable Objective, you can adjust it to 35 yards

There is much much much more but at first do all what I suggest then we shall move forward.
My fingers are tired of typing.

or Send me an e- mail on

mubhaur@yahoo.com

for further advice.

rockstar
27-09-2012, 07:23 PM
Oh come on raja sahb :) my experience is nothing compared to yours! Kiun Sharminda kar rahay hain aap sir ji :)
no Dear jog3ee you now better i think

Birdshooter007
27-09-2012, 09:31 PM
All in all I hate Diana wasted so much money :(

I tried shooting another group but again the gun was shooting above, either the scope lost zero due to recoil, or the screws loosened. Sold the other Diana 350 Magnum, now hope this one goes away soon.

jog3ee
28-09-2012, 12:09 AM
All in all I hate Diana wasted so much money :(

I tried shooting another group but again the gun was shooting above, either the scope lost zero due to recoil, or the screws loosened. Sold the other Diana 350 Magnum, now hope this one goes away soon.

Hhhmmmm!! so what do you plan on getting now after this one is sold?

adam
28-09-2012, 12:44 AM
Hello Bird shooter 007,
Dont get dis-hearted brother, Diana 350 is not a bad gun, but with the springers, there are good days and there are bad days. And these guns, especially new(out of the box) take a while to settle down.
Try using open sites, get the broken site replaced, or repaired. Try open sites at 25 yards, Let half kg of lead pass through the barrel. Even as a general principle, a new springer should not be fitted with a scope.
Springers are a constant challenge brother, and we dare to accept!

Birdshooter007
28-09-2012, 11:04 AM
Hhhmmmm!! so what do you plan on getting now after this one is sold?
Airforce Condor .22


Hello Bird shooter 007,
Dont get dis-hearted brother, Diana 350 is not a bad gun, but with the springers, there are good days and there are bad days. And these guns, especially new(out of the box) take a while to settle down.
Try using open sites, get the broken site replaced, or repaired. Try open sites at 25 yards, Let half kg of lead pass through the barrel. Even as a general principle, a new springer should not be fitted with a scope.
Springers are a constant challenge brother, and we dare to accept!
Adam sahib, 1200 pellets have already been shot through it, and I scoped it after like 900-1000 shots. Even with open sites, I would zero the gun and take it hunting. After shooting like 4-5 birds it would start missing ALL SHOTS, and I'd go home to see it's zero gone haywire (because of the loosened screws I think).

adam
28-09-2012, 12:30 PM
So you have done every thing in an absolutely right way.
Regarding loose screws, mine Diana mod 35 had also same problem. Butt screws getting loose after every 30-40 shots. So with passage of time original screws got damaged and i had to replace these screws with new ones. Now I have applied a very tiny amount of ELFY (less than a drop) on screw threads and tightened them, no loosening so far, let,s see what happens.

adam
28-09-2012, 12:39 PM
I will be happy if you get Airforce Condor .22 cal. Powerful and must be accurate as you want. Small size, light weight (but heavy on the pocket though). Wish you best of luck.

Birdshooter007
28-09-2012, 02:49 PM
Actually the springers proved heavier on the pocket (Dianas). Spent 37k, 40k on 2 350Ms, 77k - a worthless 'recoil proof Chinese scope' for 6000, a new stock (one broke just by falling on the carpet, Diana's durability put to shame sadly, a 1pc Diana mount 7000, that's some 90k. I have a handpump, a new Condor costs 65k and ****s any Diana upside down.

DRHUNTER
29-09-2012, 12:04 AM
Thanks Umair for your advices. I will do it on sunday and then will tell you on your personal mail.

shahroze
02-10-2012, 09:15 AM
Buy a hatson man I am sure it would give you stable groups and would not be more innacurate than the 350mag , buy the hatson sniper mod the one jogee brother has it has got some nice reviews on the net and it dose not have screw issues and holds it's zero for a fairly long time , and the gun packs a punch light on the wallet too

Birdshooter007
02-10-2012, 04:57 PM
Not wasting my money on spring airguns now.

jog3ee
02-10-2012, 05:23 PM
How much FPE does your BSA yield chauhdary saab?? If it is in the range of 30-35 fpe why bother for another airgun at all? Save that money for better accessories and firearms ;)

shahroze
02-10-2012, 06:01 PM
Jogee brother I am waiting for your hatson results at 25 , 30 yards
Expecting good results as I have made my mind for hatson :P

Birdshooter007
02-10-2012, 06:11 PM
How much FPE does your BSA yield chauhdary saab?? If it is in the range of 30-35 fpe why bother for another airgun at all? Save that money for better accessories and firearms ;)
My choice, I get whatever I like.
I'll know the latest FPE after power increase tuning near Eid.

jog3ee
02-10-2012, 06:15 PM
Brother I've already tested it for up to 20-25 yards and posted results in one of the Hatsan threads :).. I intend to test it on paper at 40-50 yards, in filed it has been very successful at this distance; whatever it hit goes down :)

treble
02-10-2012, 11:01 PM
Birdshooter007 bro you are making a mistake it will cost you 65k without custom payment but if you add custom/duties you can get it for around 100k-120k.
My uncle has a 1978 model BSA which i doubt can pass 100fps mark, he brought with him to pakistan from uk with a NIB scope without paying a single penny.

treble
02-10-2012, 11:02 PM
He went to customs and told them he will be bringing an airgun of .22 cal in his luggage to pakistan but disassembled .

raja yasir
02-10-2012, 11:08 PM
Birdshooter007 bro you are making a mistake it will cost you 65k without custom payment but if you add custom/duties you can get it for around 100k-120k.
My uncle has a 1978 model BSA which i doubt can pass 100fps mark, he brought with him to pakistan from uk with a NIB scope without paying a single penny.
There is no custom duty on things brought with your cargo on plane.
i will buy a AIRFORCE condour today if its available in 60k.

treble
02-10-2012, 11:10 PM
i will buy two 2

Birdshooter007
02-10-2012, 11:49 PM
Are you kidding me? My uncle got a beretta o/u, hw 80, benjamin marauder in luggage w/o duty, my cousin got a hw100t, Benjamin p-rod, glock 17 4thgen last year without paying an extra penny. Btw I don't need 2, just 1 powerful 50+fpe pcp Inshallah.

jog3ee
03-10-2012, 12:45 AM
Sorry for posting slightly irrelevant stuff here brothers :p but this I'm posting for Shahroze bro to save him the hassle :)

Khilji
03-10-2012, 12:47 AM
When there is a will there is a way Inshallah you will get birdshooter bro

shahroze
03-10-2012, 06:41 AM
Good shots , the hatsonTh must be innacurate as these groups don't show a bit inaccuracy it seems , every gun needs mastering and jogee brother has mastererd his gun . In my opinion the TH version dose not absorb much rocoil due to it's thumb hole the recoil dose not fully go at it's back causing vibrations and thumb hole is a new thing and should be given time to work on , practice . Thank you jogee brother for posting these results I doubt there will be a difference in hatson sniper at 35-45 yards the grouping will be almost the same
Any ways best of luck jogee sir and do post the new reaults soon

treble
03-10-2012, 03:05 PM
is this true that in uk having an airgun above 12fpe of energy is not allowed to use.

jog3ee
03-10-2012, 03:13 PM
is this true that in uk having an airgun above 12fpe of energy is not allowed to use.
Yes it is true! over 12 fpe air guns are FAC

Junaid86
03-10-2012, 03:13 PM
is this true that in uk having an airgun above 12fpe of energy is not allowed to use.

You need FAC (Arms license) for any airgun above 12 fpe in uk

treble
03-10-2012, 03:18 PM
So if i tell my friend who visits US after each year for his leg treatment , to bring an airgun for me so can he put the gun straight in his luggage and bring it to pakistan without any problems and custom duties.

Yasirjn1
19-11-2012, 02:56 AM
DEAR Chauhadry SB, can you please share the telephone number of the Badruddin and sons in Rawalpindi ? (http://www.pakguns.com/member.php?3199-Chauhadry)

I am interested in Diana 34 and GAMO shadow 1000. If the correct and original thing is available in Pakistan then there is no need to bring it from Germany. Because here the prices are more compared to your inquired prices in Pakistan as one have to pay 20 % VAT (tax) for each luxury item in shop.
Regards.
Dr IQBAL.


Badrudin and sons 051-5525226 051 5525229. Shops opens after 1-O'clock. i bought 34 classic compact in 32500 not sure about gamo. but one thing Badrudin guy will not go down by a single rupee. one more thing, other dealers will ask 35ks and u can bargain with them but badrudin is reasonable than others.

raja yasir
19-11-2012, 08:41 AM
So if i tell my friend who visits US after each year for his leg treatment , to bring an airgun for me so can he put the gun straight in his luggage and bring it to pakistan without any problems and custom duties.
Every state has its own requirements according to law ,some require to buy a special gun case that can be locked to travel.

arawan
20-11-2012, 06:40 AM
So if i tell my friend who visits US after each year for his leg treatment , to bring an airgun for me so can he put the gun straight in his luggage and bring it to pakistan without any problems and custom duties.
One airgun per person is allowed to import to Pakistan without any duty.

PsiFactor
20-11-2012, 08:24 AM
Sorry for posting slightly irrelevant stuff here brothers :p but this I'm posting for Shahroze bro to save him the hassle :)
Nice Group sir.

Birdshooter007
20-11-2012, 10:17 AM
One airgun per person is allowed to import to Pakistan without any duty.
There is a person Sh. Tariq UK who says he has brought (3) airguns if I remember correctly from UK in one go.

arawan
20-11-2012, 06:27 PM
There is a person Sh. Tariq UK who says he has brought (3) airguns if I remember correctly from UK in one go.

that is by chance, I have indicated the allowed-limit mentioned in custom rules, you can google the Pak custom rules for this.

Birdshooter007
20-11-2012, 06:33 PM
that is by chance, I have indicated the allowed-limit mentioned in custom rules, you can google the Pak custom rules for this.
:alien:
While that may be a rule, rule is also that you have to pay duty on most luxury goods but people skimp on it by just paying a few K's (bribe) instead of lakhs.

There is another member 'Gamez Bond' who brought 2 airguns in one go from UK
I think they're calm on this issue?

Sahil AZAD
19-12-2012, 02:50 PM
AOA.
I was going to get a RWS 34 classic (price was 32k) but when I went to the shop, Badruddin and Son in Rawalpindi, I saw this sheer beauty and bought it without a second thought. It was very reasonably priced at just Rs 40k and I didn't hesitate in getting this beauty.

The gun is very balanced, and although it's weight is 8lbs as compared to the normal rws350 magnum's weight of 8.20lbs, it feels very much lighter than the latter. The gun is very well balanced and feels like half the weight of the normal 350magnum.M.A I got a good piece and the recoil is almost half than that of the 350 magnum I had and it's much more accurate due to this fact. Although I have just shot 3 pellets through it, really amused by this slim and fun-to-use airgun. It's stock does not have a raised cheek-piece and that is what I like the most about it. With the other 350mag, I couldn't aim properly as the stock would hit my jaws due to raised cheeck-piece and high recoil. It's very comfortable to use and what I liked the MOST are the well-made fiber optic's which simply outshine the normal 350 mag's useless, cheap iron sights, and not to miss the TO-6 trigger.
At that shop, they had Gamo Shadow 1000 for Rs 21k, Gamo Whisper for 22.5k, rws 34 classic for 32k, rws 34 premium for 37, rws 34 professional for 35k, got mine the 350 Feuerkraft for 40k and they had the 460 magnum for 45k.....ALL NIB.
Here are the pics:
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic016.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic017.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic019.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic018.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic020.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic021.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic023.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic022.jpg
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic025.jpg
this pattern is just oiling
http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb399/B77W/rws350classic024.jpg

You have to buy a heavy scope like Diana 4-16X42 AO

Birdshooter007
15-01-2013, 02:02 PM
Had the gun lying idle since a long time now. The Diana mount I got from Baksh Ellahee was not lockdown and seems different from the RWS 1pc lock down mount I got from USA, the Diana didn't work so well so I used the RWS one and Leapers 4-16x50ao. Zeroed it at 20yds in 7-8 shots but the groups seemed to be shifting up and down after few shots. Locked the zero turret on the scope, problem solved till now shot about 100crosman premier ultra magnums. The 350 is inaccurate yet I was getting mostly .5-.7in groups at 20 yes and there always was this flyer going upwards, then back to POI.... Deemed this good enough, did some pest control few days ago shot 4 crows and a kite in half hour, 40yds range mostly (verified with rangefinder). Today took put the gun, 8x zoom. There was a crow far far away hardly visible by the naked eye partly covered by tree branches. Range was 102yards (checked by rangefinder and tape 100% accurate). Had the trajectory table jotted down on the guns furniture on paper. 100yds was a 6 mil dot holdover (the gun is exactly shooting at 19fpe). 102 yd crow kill was kind of over expectation from the 350 being not so accurate in the Diana airgun lineup. Anyway shot at it, surprisingly downed it.

jog3ee
15-01-2013, 02:48 PM
Shabassshhh!!!! :D so this gun is a keeper for now I believe !!
Btw the Simmons LRF 600 Works Flawlessly :D

Birdshooter007
15-01-2013, 03:01 PM
Hmm not really a keeper hahaha but Alhamdulillah would do the job I want. Yes LRF600 is really awesome you get precise range in no time and don't need to throw your wallet with those muggers

jog3ee
15-01-2013, 03:07 PM
Yea thats the best range finder in its price range :)

Tank
15-01-2013, 07:24 PM
thats a fine looking gun mate