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Hamid
22-04-2009, 01:28 PM
Hi friends, my license is in the pipeline and budget is 40k.

I am confused which one of these to buy.

NP-34 has the looks

NP-22 has polymer frame

and
Kanuni is Glock look alike.

Need your suggestions.

HassaanAfzal
22-04-2009, 01:37 PM
My vote is for Kanuni S
or raise ur budget to 55k n get a stoeger

Glocky
22-04-2009, 01:44 PM
NP-34, excellent Sig 228 copy. Best value for money in the range given

Hamid
22-04-2009, 01:59 PM
NP-34, excellent Sig 228 copy. Best value for money in the range given

Doesnt it develop colour fading issues. I have heard that it sometimes turns greenish near trigger guard and grip, if carried extensively.

Balazona
22-04-2009, 02:50 PM
Hamid,NP-22 and NP-34 r clones of Sig P228 and Sig P228 accordingly.both have Aluminum frames.only CF-98 has polymer frame in Chinese pistols.

Abbas
22-04-2009, 02:58 PM
Is Nz85 not under consideration ? If so then NZ85 first followed by the Kanuni followed by the Np34.

Btw what is the major difference between the Np34 and the H77B ? I find the 77 build quality better.

Balazona
22-04-2009, 03:20 PM
HP77B and NP-22 r same pistols.they both r clones of Sig P226 full size 9mm pistol.
NZ-85B is a very rare item nowadays.it will cost 40 to 45K.availbility is a problem.

Mitho
22-04-2009, 04:33 PM
go for a chinese 9mm.

Monis
22-04-2009, 04:42 PM
Cf 98 is best choise

Sohail
22-04-2009, 05:09 PM
yes i would vote for Cf 98 too, good grip and magazin capacity is fine also, would cost you around 36 k in lhr.

regards

Osam
22-04-2009, 05:19 PM
Cf98 is a very nice choice. Overall the grips are great. The polymer frame makes it lighter then other choices in your mind. But some how i am not satisfied with the accuracy of this gun. I own one but in my opinion i am not able to shoot it accurately. Maybe because the gun is lighter in weight and my hand trembles so it takes me off the target. I would prefer a heavier gun for me as it would keep my hand atleast stable when i am shooting the gun, ive tried shooting heavier ones like stoeger, taurus 917, pt99 etc and they have served me well in accuracy. That is the case with me, maybe some people are more comfortable with lighter weighed guns but again it all depends.

Balazona
22-04-2009, 06:30 PM
Go for NP-34.best value for the money.very compact and good for CCW.

Glocky
22-04-2009, 07:10 PM
NP-34, excellent Sig 228 copy. Best value for money in the range given

Doesnt it develop colour fading issues. I have heard that it sometimes turns greenish near trigger guard and grip, if carried extensively.

I would not debate that, because i have seen even the original Sigs which looked like they had really been around for years. Some ppl like the worn look on their guns (thats a personal preference for some). But in my opinion its one of the better Norinco copies and shoots as great as it looks.

Taurus
22-04-2009, 09:37 PM
I like the best of all is np 34 and with hogue grips`

Balazona
22-04-2009, 09:43 PM
Ya,it will be more comfortable with Hogue rubber with finger groove grips.

Mitho
22-04-2009, 09:46 PM
r there any houge grips avalaible for cf98

Cap1
22-04-2009, 09:56 PM
Kanuni is Glock look alike.
???

Kanuni has min 25,000 round barrel life. I'm not sure Norinco matches that. In Norinco, NP42/CF98 and NP34 are good choices.

http://www.trabzonsilah.com/english/index.php?link=kanunis_siyah
http://www.norincoequipment.cn/product_list_English.jsp?activityid=37&cssid=1

Balazona
22-04-2009, 10:05 PM
I can go for a Norinco Torture Test if any one of u willing to donate 25000 rounds of 9x19mm.

Cap1
22-04-2009, 10:13 PM
Nice try :cool: Maybe you can get some from Friends of Pakistan!

BTW what is the barrel life of Norinco pistols - its doesn't seem to be listed on their website.

Balazona
22-04-2009, 10:17 PM
Norinco pistols have Chrome lined barrel as i stated in my other postos too.Chrome lined barrel dont wear out quickly and can tolerate lot of abuse.usually u will see chrome lined barrels in rifles.

NOMI
22-04-2009, 11:23 PM
i also vote for cf 98 its the best

AK47
22-04-2009, 11:32 PM
NP34! And about barrel life: In normal use, who ever reaches these limits, without buying a new pistol inbetween, or changes the old one?

Taurus
23-04-2009, 01:17 AM
it demands i think its also the same barrel life 25k

Balazona
23-04-2009, 01:29 AM
OK, guys i tell u a fact here about Norinco NP-22 and NP-34 pistol.just see the pic below.u will see that steel locking block has been extended to Aluminum frame rails.so steel slide contacts with steel rails first.those pistols can handle +P ammo easily now after this modification.This is the weakest point in Sig design from where the rails start to crack or split.
Chinese r very wise.they improved the design.even Sig ppl couldnt think about this idea.
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/balazona/DSC01211.jpg

Taurus
23-04-2009, 01:41 AM
Nice 1 Norinco...i want to change ur nick to norinco expert

Hamid
23-04-2009, 08:50 AM
Thanks everybody for your suggestions. Undoubtedly, all of them are good guns in their own distinct way. My preference will be NP-34 with Hogue grips. Balazona rocks :)

9mm Luger
28-04-2009, 09:33 PM
one question does it bother you that np 22 /34 dont have a manual safety and instead have a dcocker! i know ppl will tell you that with decoker it is a safety but just wanted to know what forum members think...

Asking because i have applied for a MOI license today!! and am just lining up myself for a buy! and NP 34 is something I am really giving a thought!!

Taurus
28-04-2009, 10:46 PM
NP34 and np22 both dont have looks i dont prefer locks in pistols because when weapon is not loaded it is as if it is locked

Balazona
28-04-2009, 10:47 PM
NP22/34 r DA/SA pistols.First round can be fired in double action mod after decoking the hammer.Pistol is absolutely save in double action mod.u will need a long and heavy pull of the trigger to discharge the pistol.This long and heavy pull of the trigger is a best saftey.These pistols also have firing pin block.

CougarMan
28-04-2009, 11:35 PM
no matter how much of an expert you are a de cocker is always a good thing!:D

Enigmatic Desires
28-04-2009, 11:56 PM
one question does it bother you that np 22 /34 dont have a manual safety and instead have a dcocker! i know ppl will tell you that with decoker it is a safety but just wanted to know what forum members think...

Asking because i have applied for a MOI license today!! and am just lining up myself for a buy! and NP 34 is something I am really giving a thought!!

A pistol w/o a manual safety...

I wont touch it with a 10 yard pole!

Omkhan
29-04-2009, 09:29 AM
In virtually almost all pistols, the decocker also acts as a manual safety & vice versa.

Firepower!
29-04-2009, 09:35 AM
I am not a big fan of a manual safety, but I like decocker. I carry G21 so I am biased on this I guess.

Enigmatic Desires
29-04-2009, 04:08 PM
In virtually almost all pistols, the decocker also acts as a manual safety & vice versa.

Yeah but when U push it al the way down. (or up in some cases).. it also acts as a manual safety.. preventing the piece from being fired..

Enigmatic Desires
29-04-2009, 04:09 PM
I am not a big fan of a manual safety, but I like decocker. I carry G21 so I am biased on this I guess.

But Glocks dont have either

Balazona
29-04-2009, 04:24 PM
Glock has Three internal safties,they r disengaged when u pull the trigger.
BTW,best saftey is between ur ears. ;)

9mm Luger
29-04-2009, 11:47 PM
Well said Balazona! does the decocker on NP34 works as a manual safety as mentioned by our esteemed omkhan sb?

Enigmatic Desires
30-04-2009, 12:09 AM
Glock has Three internal safties,they r disengaged when u pull the trigger.
BTW,best saftey is between ur ears. ;)

apart from tat. I also want a nice big safety that I can actually deactivate before firing my piece..

Conceal Carry
30-04-2009, 12:50 AM
The real safety is in knowing you weapon, and in the way you handle your weapon. Follow the safety rules.

Enigmatic Desires
30-04-2009, 01:02 AM
The real safety is in knowing you weapon, and in the way you handle your weapon. Follow the safety rules.


Thats so true CC

Taurus
30-04-2009, 02:03 AM
"Treat A firearm as if it is Loaded"

Balazona
30-04-2009, 08:44 AM
Well said Balazona! does the decocker on NP34 works as a manual safety as mentioned by our esteemed omkhan sb?
NP-34 is the exact clone of Sig P228 pistol.it has only a decoker which doesnt work as a saftey.

taimikhan
02-06-2009, 11:31 PM
AoA, guys kindly check the Topic of Calling all CF-98 Owners! have posted the pic and URL to the video of CF98 firing. Hope you guys enjoy it.

AOA guys, as promised, plz view the below URL and give your comments.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15qsJgnm0sw&feature=player_embedded