NP42 / CF98 / QSZ92 Pistol (Chinese)

[Cap1]

A few of us seem to have the NP42 or CF98 and I thought we could use this thread to discuss it.

Caliber 9X19mm, Length 190mm, Height 137mm, Width 35mm, Barrel Length 110mm, Weight 0.76Kg, Magazine capacity 15 rounds

Company website http://www.norincoequipment.cn/detail_product_English.jsp?productid=485&cssid=1

NP42 Norinco Ops Manual http://www.scribd.com/doc/8773831/np42norincoopsmanual
Disassembly & Reassembly: See pages 8-9 of the ops manual
Reassembly video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUxi_1XTehU

Pics of my piece
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/NP42leftview.jpg http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/NP42slideretracted.jpg

Pics from the web
http://pic.66wz.com/0/00/14/04/140466_628846.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/QSZ92.jpg http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/QSZ92a.jpg http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/QSZ92b.jpg
http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0707/39_5847_11ddadc6570ab7e.jpg

[Firepower!]

On CF98

I had one. but its serial number got rubbed off with time. Is this a common thing?

How many rounds have you put through your CF98? What is your experience with it?

[Cap1]

I have NP42 and yes the numbering is light but seems better than the CF98. I don't think it will rub off easily but is difficult to read in low light. My piece is new and I've yet to get range membership to test it out (new to guns, its my first one). Will report back.

[Cap1]

Quoting balazona ... thanks for the pic and tips!

@ Cap1,dear here is a picture of disassembled Np-42/CF-98 pistol.i hope this will help u out to clean ur pistol.

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/balazona/qsz92_04large.jpg

u see the modular firing control system,just give it a clean with WD-40 and a new tooth brush.
and clean barrel and other parts as well.
regards

[Abbas]

Good post Cap1.

[Cap1]

Thanks!

[Balazona]

Cap1,so at last u cleaned it.now it is looking great.

[Cap1]

Balazona Yes your tips were very helpful thanks. Please could you post the picture again of the disassembled pistol? We're getting an error message from Photobucket.

[Firepower!]

How many shot have you guys put through your 98s?

[OHQ]

300 hundred + still going good.

[Acciprone]

I had the QSZ92 for about 2 years put more than 500 Rounds through it gave to my brother .. No a single JAM, FTE or FTF... very reliable weapon.

[Balazona]

This was QSZ-92 design which Berreta picked for its Cougar.the rotating barrel locking system.QSZ-92 pistol was designed in 1992 and cougar was in 1994.and later they it came in polymer form which is called PX4 storm.So,u can say that Berrata copied the chinese in this design.

[OHQ]

Which is best for self defense caliber 10mm 40, 9mm, 5.8mm a guy Mr. Samiullah Afridi in Chakwal Chakwal armory arms and ammunition dealer told me if the bullet is bottle shape it is more powerful.

[OHQ]

I had the QSZ92 for about 2 years put more than 500 Rounds through it gave to my brother .. No a single JAM, FTE or FTF... very reliable weapon.

Which bullets did u use 5.8mm? bottle shape?

[Cap1]

I had the QSZ92 for about 2 years put more than 500 Rounds through it gave to my brother .. No a single JAM, FTE or FTF... very reliable weapon.
Thats so great to hear. The main reason I got my NP42 were the great reports from all those who used it. Of course the cheaper price tag was also a consideration, but not the primary or secondary one.

[Acciprone]

Omar u cant use the 5.8 they have a seperate gun for it . it look alo like the np42. the 5.8 is specifically made for another norinco pistol. Used chinese ammo 9 mm

[OHQ]

Which is best for self defense caliber 10mm 40, 45 9mm, 5.8mm?

[Firepower!]

10mm is most powerfull of the listed.

Howeveer, I dont think if you hit some one with a 9 and then 45, he could tell a difference. One cant be more dead with one than other.

That said, I mostly carry 357 or 45. If not these, then HK P2K in 9.

[OHQ]

Firepower is there any other hand gun that use's bottle shape bullets like 30 bore

[Balazona]

That caliber is called .357Sig.it is an advanced form of 9mm.which use .40 casing and 9mm bullet.it is very high pressure round.

[Firepower!]

Ok. you query answered. And dont forget the good old 7.63 mauser:)
However, I dont carry 357Sig. I use 357 Rem. Mag. in KC or GP100.
I do know a guy who is selling Glock in 357Sig.

[OHQ]

how much?

[Conceal Carry]

Is there any visible difference in the three guns, I think QSZ92 is the chinese millitary version capable of firing DAP rounds, CF98 is the same gun in civilian version. NP42 is only has a better barrel life than the CF98. These are my two cents about the gun, if anyone knows better please educate me.

I onece seriously considered CF98 but didn't bought it because of the trigger in the DA mode it was horrible, i have bigger than average hands but couldn't pull the trigger all the way. In SA mode it was ok though. Whats your experience.

[Balazona]

These all three r same pistols.only barrel life little bit different.

[Firepower!]

i like the one which is sig clone

[Balazona]

that one is called NP-22.but i have heard that its frame,s sliding rails break after or before 2000 rounds.not very durable.

[Acciprone]

I am suprised Balazona, a friend of mine has the same and i am sure he has gone through more than 5k rounds.. No issues at his end.. I might be getting the same inshallah

[Balazona]

Acciprone,brother actually i read lot of complaints of this pistol's frame being craked on canadiangunnutz.com.i am member over there too.i was thinking to but this one then after reading this issue i went ofr CF-98.YMMV

[Acciprone]

Acciprone,brother actually i read lot of complaints of this pistol's frame being craked on canadiangunnutz.com.i am member over there too.i was thinking to but this one then after reading this issue i went ofr CF-98.YMMV


Am suprised. it oculd be a bad batch or something. Or may be my friend is lucky to get away with a good piece. Any one else have any comments on this

[Cap1]

I think QSZ92 is the chinese millitary version capable of firing DAP rounds, CF98 is the same gun in civilian version. NP42 is only has a better barrel life than the CF98. These are my two cents about the gun, if anyone knows better please educate me.
I also have the same info

The NP42 is my first gun so I can't really comment on the trigger in DA mode. I've only shot a few rounds and I thought it was easier to control than I thought it would be. Trying to get range access if I ever complete the never-ending formalities. It was easier to get the gun than to get range membership. No wonder so many people resort to aerial firing to test their guns. There really should be more training schools and ranges so people can learn and practice properly.

[Omkhan]

Hi guys, here is my CF98.

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww259/omkhan_2009/My%20Guns/P7310402.jpg?t=1231768882
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww259/omkhan_2009/My%20Guns/P7310398.jpg
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww259/omkhan_2009/My%20Guns/P7310401.jpg

[Shariq]

Looks really good.

[Cap1]

@omkhan Very nice! Did you get it chromed or is it originally in two-tone?
I'm new to this... when oiling my NP42 should I oil (or avoid oiling) the recoil spring, firing pin, magazine spring or any other parts? I heard bullets should be kept oil free and that sounds hard if there is oil inside the pistol.
Also I noticed that if I chamber a round and then eject it the bullet gets scratched. Will it still be ok to fire?

[Firepower!]

omkhan
If you reduce the size of the pic i think the entire picture will show.

[Omkhan]

It was originally in 2 tone. I put a very light coating of oil on springs. Since its 144 & I dont go to range that often, the slide & other metal parts get highly lubricated EXCEPT the barrel. No oil should go into the barrel. same goes for bullets

Yes, chambering a round & ejecting it often does scratch the cartridge, but I dont think there is anything wrong firing it as long as the bullet/ cartridge is not deformed.

[Firepower!]

i've never seen a two tone CF98 before. wadya know you something new everyday. very nice. however in my collection it will be only TT from china. thats a true classic.

[Omkhan]

what resolution r u seeing it on? I m on 1024x768 & it seems pretty good to me

[Omkhan]

So far I have put around 100 rds without any issue. It hits a little low from the point of aim. What about u guys with Cf98/NP42. How do u find ur guns on accuracy front?

[Bored2676]

Well I find mine to be bloody accurate

[OHQ]

Is it possible to get the top bit of CF-98 as you see in the picture Chromed, stainless steel coating or just paint it silver from normal black color?

[Balazona]

Only CF-98 comes in very varities.whenever i see a CF-98 on a dealer's place it has different markings from each other.some has norinco logo some doesnot.

[Cap1]

Yes CF98 has many variants. I heard from a someone who had it that there's a difference of whether it was made in the Beijing factory or the Hong Kong one.

[Firepower!]

So NORINCO has two plants?

[Cap1]

Thats what someone told me but I haven't verified it.

[Balazona]

Norinco have lots of factories.

[Taurus]

Hye Om khan From where did u buy this 2 tone cf-98?i mean which shop?and how much?

[Cap1]

The markings seem to show up better in chrome. I saw a NP22 in 2 tone someone had gotten it chromed and it looked cool.

[Omkhan]

@Taurus 24/7,
Bought it from Sadar Armory @Lucky Star, for 43K in August 08

[Taurus]

Hye everybody..has anyone been through around 1000 rounds in cf98 or np 22 without a hiccup?is it cf98 better than 24/7?

[OHQ]

CF-98 is the best, if you want Taurus then PT-99 or PT-92

[Balazona]

Ofcourse Yes,CF-98 is way better than 24/7.

[Yalghari]

are 45 norinco available?
wat are their prices?

[Firepower!]

Does any one know the how to replace the trigger srping?

[Saeen]

This is for Glock but it might help.

http://www.survivalblog.com/2007/03/ensuring_glock_pistol_reliabil.html

[Abbas]

Dear Abbas/Omar,

How can I start a new post.. actually I am a bit confused about the qsz-92 and CF-98?? are they the same pistols??? the picture posted here for CF-98 is actually qsz-92?? Maybe our learned pak gun fellows can shed some light?? also i have read that qsz-92 is capable of firing +p+ load??? wow i would have really bought that anyday if i hadnt bought a tarus!!:)

The GSZ92 as I understand is for Chinese home use and not export. The CF98 and NP42 are for export, the only difference between the two being that the CF98 has a barrel life of 3000 rounds and the NP42 does 10,000. The GSZ also handles the +p rounds better. Apart from these minor difference the aesthetics are the same and it's pretty the same gun.

[Balazona]

Abbas,it is QSZ-92 and CF-98's barrel life is 8,000 rounds.

[Abbas]

I stand corrected then. I have no personal experience with Chinese pistols apart from letting off a few hundred rounds. I thought I read somewhere once about the 3 k and the 10 k barrel life.. Let me just check..

Yep, this is where I read it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QSZ-92 I was sure I was quoting the right barrel life.

[Cap1]

My NP42 had its first outing at the range today. Results at 15m:
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/FirstDayNP42.jpg

[Firepower!]

you to tighten up the group.

[Cap1]

Yes it was my first time target shooting and practically pistol shooting too so I was all over the place. Most trouble I had was with the aim height and mostly shot low. An expert told me later the way to correct this is to fire 5 shots without changing aim from shot to shot. Then evaluate the results. If shooting tends towards 6 O'clock from bulls-eye, then for the next 5 aim at 12 O'clock. Plan to try that out next time.

[Monis]

I hav cf 98 orignal china by norinco its a good pistol i usued about 300 chinies round not a single misfire or jam and any other problum in it its a good one in this prize range

[Firepower!]

Cap1

I think this will help: http://www.saveourguns.com/Ar_Marks_Un_Pistol_Train_Guide.pdf

regards

[Cap1]

Thanks Firepower! Yes I had this guide and was trying to emulate the technique. Need practice though - lots of it.

[Ali Akbar]

can any body tell me that np42 is available in lhr market
and what will be its aproxx prce

[Balazona]

There is CF-98 pistol available in Lahore market.and its price is around 35K.

[Ahmad]

@ balazona the CF 98 which are availble now have the norinco star on their slide, i have seen some Helico made CF 98. did your CF have achrome lined barrel.
cheers

[Osam]

thats the thing the dealer told me there are a lot of complications with these norinco made weapons he told me the new stock would have changes in them maybe made by some other company or slight differences of logos and he said that people with old stock are clearing theirs at lower prices dont know how true it was but there is difference in the new stock and the old one and the price gone upto 42k quoted to me today

[Balazona]

according to my experiance i have seen different markings on CF-98 pistol.some have Norinco logo and some dont.it doesnt matter regarding the quality.

[Monis]

I think norinco is orignal

[Cap1]

+1 on different CF98 markings. I've even seen one marked 'Shaheen'! I went for the NP42 with Norinco logo.

[Saeen]

I think even Balazona have come across Norincos with Shaheen marked on them :)

[Cap1]

Balazona you should help the Norinco guys write the ops manuals. The Chinglish they use can be funny but irritating.

[Balazona]

lol,Chinglish sounds v funny.

[Ahmad]

did any of these variants got hard chrome pipe, i did not see any
regards

[Balazona]

Ahmad,all chinese pistols come with crome lined barrel.CF-98 has too.

[Saeen]

LOL @ Chinglish, funny but true. The first time i tried to dismantle the piece with the help of their manual i was all lost. Then had to close the manual and fall back to my old expertise ;)

[Balazona]

Saeen,disassembly is very easy.did u take out the modular firing mechanism from the plastic grip?

[Saeen]

this is exactly the kind of terminology i haven't understood as yet. Maybe next time you can tell/teach me what you are talking about :)

[Balazona]

Saeen,when we will meet at the range then i will tell u about this.

[Saeen]

Looking forward to it :) !!

[OHQ]

Need help in disassembly of CF-98. Can some one help?

[Balazona]

i think there is a video on YOUTUBE.i will try to find the link.

[Intrepid]

you can have it at main videos section of pakguns.com

[Balazona]

Here is the link for the video,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUxi_1XTehU

[OHQ]

Thanks Balazone. The video is about assembly of CF-98. Does not show how to take it apart. Can someone help?

[Abbas]

Balazona we need you to do video tutorials of assembling and dissembling of all your Chinese Pistols. Do you think you can manage ?

[OHQ]

+1 Thank you Abbas Bhai

[Ka_Khan]

Be Careful of 'KaboooooM'...

[Taurus]

I will also search the video of assembly and disassembly of cf 98

[Xerga]

omer hamza

i myself also check on net alot to see the fieldstrip video for cf 98, but there wasnt any... and i was hesitating to try my own intelligence on this new piece :)

today i saw a youtube video of someguy adnan... he RE-assembled his gun only. he didnt dis-assemble it... after watching it twice i found it cf-98's fieldstripping is mostly like 30 bore pistol.... u go and take out the main pin, which holds pistol both main parts.... than drag upper slide forward.... like u do with 30 bore.... spring nikaalo... then barrel.... i didnt go further than that coz cock machinery was seeming a little difficult... so lubricated/cleaned it...and closed it same way... u go and try..

[Acciprone]

reading so much on feild stripping the cf 98.. i feild stripped my brothers gun.. was easy had little issus to wards reassembling.. but in the end didit.. with eash. .kept the book handy.. in case i wanted to read something

[Balazona]

i will try to make a video for u guys.it is very asy job to disassemble this pistol.

[OHQ]

Yaar I have tried. For me the problem is just the first bit. How do you get it out? I tried with hammering the pin but not hard don’t want to damage the gun. Will wait for Balazona video.

[Cap1]

OHQ just press the pin with the back of the magazine and it will go in. Then pull it out from the other side. Don't hammer, just press firmly.

[Acciprone]

OHQ just press the pin with the back of the magazine and it will go in. Then pull it out from the other side. Don't hammer, just press firmly.

or use a rag.. to avoid any scratch

[Balazona]

Cap1 and Acciprone u r both right about slide stop pin.just push it a litlle and take it out from the other side.

[Balazona]

Saeen and all other fellow members who have CF-98/NP-42 pistol here is the picture of disassembled pistol.u can see the modular firing system which i was talking about,and it can be take out from the polymer grip very easily.
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/balazona/qsz92_04large.jpg

[Saeen]

I can help you Balzy in that, if any needed :)

[Cap1]

Does the magazine require any maintenance, cleaning or oiling from inside?
@Acciprone +1 on using a rag to avoid scratches

[Balazona]

Magazine do need for cleaning before firing the pistol first time out of the box.

[Cap1]

Updating status on my Norinco NP42. It's done 450+ rounds and still going strong; actually seems to be improving (or is it just me?). See the Target Results thread for its performance.

[Salvation]

guyz me buying cf 98 tomorrow .... can any one of you tell me is the spare barrels are also available in the markets and what are the best accessories available for this pistol especially with regards holograms and lasers

[ARlover]

i will post a link of NORINCO there is no model of cf98 plz ur self link is here http://www.norincoequipment.cn/product_list_English.jsp?activityid=37&cssid=1

[ARlover]

dear bros norinco never ever made model cf98 link is here if im right http://www.norincoequipment.cn/product_list_English.jsp?activityid=37&cssid=1

[Hamid]

They both are of Chinese origin. I have read the name of the company who makes CF-98, on the forum. It was not norinco.

[taimikhan]

AoA, well guys, CF98 is not made by Norinco rather its made by Chang Feng Machinery & Tools Ltd, a company working under Norinco. As Norinco is a huge industrial giant. This CF company makes a PDW by the name of CF05 and a couple of other weapons also. Norinco was/is basically banned in USA and Canada. They couldnt import their weapons, so they started to role out the pistol under a new designation by another company so that they can export it easily.
Hope this helps, check out the below link for seeing CF98 in action. Thx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15qsJgnm0sw

[PsiFactor]

DEAR ALL


Please tell me if anyone seen a CF 98 with BLACK Barrel.

thanks

[faisal balouch]

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[faisal balouch]

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[PsiFactor]

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[Rizshu]

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very nice gun mubarak

[AK47]

Nice gun fb! And your's too, psi.

[PsiFactor]

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I shot brick wall with chines ammo for 20meters. I am a professional don't try this at home!!!

[KageFox]

@PsiFactor: Nice photos of your NP-42, sure is yours :D

Don't mean to sound like a preacher, but take caution when shooting at brick walls. Ricochets can kill...

[faisal balouch]

@ ak47 thanx alot

[9mm Luger]

@ faisal how many rounds have you fired from your gun and whats your take on th gun?

[Enigmatic Desires]

PSI Sir.. U shoot at brick walls for a living???:o

[haider5]

wats da price of dis pisto:l?
A few of us seem to have the NP42 or CF98 and I thought we could use this thread to discuss it.

Caliber 9X19mm, Length 190mm, Height 137mm, Width 35mm, Barrel Length 110mm, Weight 0.76Kg, Magazine capacity 15 rounds

Company website http://www.norincoequipment.cn/detail_product_English.jsp?productid=485&cssid=1

NP42 Norinco Ops Manual http://www.scribd.com/doc/8773831/np42norincoopsmanual
Disassembly & Reassembly: See pages 8-9 of the ops manual
Reassembly video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUxi_1XTehU

Pics of my piece
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/NP42leftview.jpg http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/NP42slideretracted.jpg

Pics from the web
http://pic.66wz.com/0/00/14/04/140466_628846.jpg
http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/QSZ92.jpg http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/QSZ92a.jpg http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo39/CapOnePK/QSZ92b.jpg
http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/Mon_0707/39_5847_11ddadc6570ab7e.jpg

[haider5]

faisal yar wats daprice of ur pistol?
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[haider5]

hey r in police department?is it urs pic?
omer hamza

i myself also check on net alot to see the fieldstrip video for cf 98, but there wasnt any... and i was hesitating to try my own intelligence on this new piece :)

today i saw a youtube video of someguy adnan... he RE-assembled his gun only. he didnt dis-assemble it... after watching it twice i found it cf-98's fieldstripping is mostly like 30 bore pistol.... u go and take out the main pin, which holds pistol both main parts.... than drag upper slide forward.... like u do with 30 bore.... spring nikaalo... then barrel.... i didnt go further than that coz cock machinery was seeming a little difficult... so lubricated/cleaned it...and closed it same way... u go and try..

[faisal balouch]

@ haider5 its around 33500 to 35000 in sind.

[taimikhan]

AoA,

Sorry guys was out of touch due to some domestic engagements.

2 weeks back bought my 2nd CF98, this time for my brother. Just today took it for testing And fired around 80 rounds from it with no problems faced. But this CF98 has Norinco Markings on it & accessory rail is missing on it.

Made video of the firing too, here are links to some of the clips.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CfkMWFM0t8&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSi8kre0-ls&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76tycyXNdQ8&feature=channel

Fired from around 100 yards & then 50 yards.

Dead accurate if the firer has control on his firing skills, even from around 100 yards was very accurate.

Enjoy

[Gilani]

AoA,

Sorry guys was out of touch due to some domestic engagements.

2 weeks back bought my 2nd CF98, this time for my brother. Just today took it for testing And fired around 80 rounds from it with no problems faced. But this CF98 has Norinco Markings on it & accessory rail is missing on it.

Made video of the firing too, here are links to some of the clips.


Fired from around 100 yards & then 50 yards.

Dead accurate if the firer has control on his firing skills, even from around 100 yards was very accurate.

Enjoy

Fired accurately from 100 yds! :rolleyes: Thats outstanding. Proves that both pistol and the firer are damn good :)

Congrats on buying 2nd CF98 bro. I believe its the best available pistol in this price range.

[AK47]

@Sir taimikhan.........Just checked your vids, Sir. Sure you mean "100 YARDS"? My judgement may be wrong and there may be some "camera effects" too, but it appears more like 100 feet to me! Plz confirm, and excellent shooting Sir, you just perhaps should have let the camera zoom-in to the board. Regards.

[SevenMagnum]

i think the range was 50 meters in the video. Else nice shooting bro taimikhan.

[taimikhan]

Its a Armed forces firing range, where they train too. Two of the videos are from close range, the second one if fully seen in the end will give a good idea how lengthy it is.

The incharge of the facility gave me the 100 yard figure and said in couple of weeks the facility will be converted to a 200 yard or more firing range.

But will check out tomorrow again and get it confirmed.

[AK47]

Thanks Sir, it just appeared a "bit" shorter to me. And if they could increase their plans of a 200 yard range to say something like 300 yards, I guess the incharge himself would be somewhat "safe" there, as a target board himself! Kidding Sir, let's hear from you. Regards.

[139]

+1 on different CF98 markings. I've even seen one marked 'Shaheen'! I went for the NP42 with Norinco logo.
Shaheen is basically the company which is making CF 98 clones near Pehawer. An acquaintance got a roundabout 16k price tag for Shaheen made clone.....

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[Ka_Khan]

Nice vid addittion taimikhan.
Is this firing range in 'kacha garhi' or 'university town'?

[Faisji]

Nice vid addittion taimikhan.
Is this firing range in 'kacha garhi' or 'university town'?
Or takal?

[Ka_Khan]

It seems we have plenty of 'Active' Pakgunners from Peshawar now.Would you like to mail me your contacts @ ka_khan@yahoo.com. :)

[Haider Shah]

CF & NP stands for what ?
Any one having experience of NP 22 0r its smaller version NP34 as both are the copies of Sig however the query is about their performance, Why few pistols like CF 98 are designed with safety where as NP 22 is with out safety, is it with a purpose or a model feature or to make it more practical in a state of readiness in combat zones as I have been told that pistols with out safety are purely meant for practical shooting i.e operations ? Regards

[Mohammad]

@tamil khan please confirm where this firing range is

[Faisji]

It seems we have plenty of 'Active' Pakgunners from Peshawar now.Would you like to mail me your contacts @ ka_khan@yahoo.com. :)

Check e-mail

[Gilani]

+1 on different CF98 markings. I've even seen one marked 'Shaheen'! I went for the NP42 with Norinco logo.
Shaheen is basically the company which is making CF 98 clones near Pehawer. An acquaintance got a roundabout 16k price tag for Shaheen made clone.....

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Do we have locally made CF 98 clones also :rolleyes: :o

[PsiFactor]

CF & NP stands for what ?
Any one having experience of NP 22 0r its smaller version NP34 as both are the copies of Sig however the query is about their performance, Why few pistols like CF 98 are designed with safety where as NP 22 is with out safety, is it with a purpose or a model feature or to make it more practical in a state of readiness in combat zones as I have been told that pistols with out safety are purely meant for practical shooting i.e operations ? Regards
CF FOR Chang Feng NP for Norinco pistol

[PsiFactor]

I have seen 4 types of this pistol marks Entercon ,shaheen, Norinco and without mark only pistol sr number in darra.

[PsiFactor]

Nice vid addittion taimikhan.
Is this firing range in 'kacha garhi' or 'university town'?
Or takal?
IT looks like Abdara Small bore range to me near airport.

[takenleader]

Asak ,
Its better to spend rs 3 to 4000 more and nullify all u r doubt . But the np 42 available at national traders NIB tehy ask 36000/ final price depends upon u r negotiation skills. The np 42 will hold its value better then the cf coz its scarce compared to the cf98

[taimikhan]

Nice vid addittion taimikhan.
Is this firing range in 'kacha garhi' or 'university town'?


FC firing range beside the train phatak, airport road connecting town and road coming from ring road to cantt.

[Gilani]

Asak ,
Its better to spend rs 3 to 4000 more and nullify all u r doubt . But the np 42 available at national traders NIB tehy ask 36000/ final price depends upon u r negotiation skills. The np 42 will hold its value better then the cf coz its scarce compared to the cf98

Is there any difference between NP42 and CF98? I think NP42, CF98 and QSZ92 are names of the same gun.

[taimikhan]

Asak ,
Its better to spend rs 3 to 4000 more and nullify all u r doubt . But the np 42 available at national traders NIB tehy ask 36000/ final price depends upon u r negotiation skills. The np 42 will hold its value better then the cf coz its scarce compared to the cf98

Is there any difference between NP42 and CF98? I think NP42, CF98 and QSZ92 are names of the same gun.

QSZ92 is the Chinese official name to 5.8mm version of the gun.

NP42 was the Norinco made version

CF98 is the Chang Feng Machinery Tools make.


The firing mechanism is same for all, diff comes in caliber & barrel life.

[PsiFactor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qwCDVO9ZqM

Target shooting at 25 yards

[Gilani]

Is there any difference between NP42 and CF98? I think NP42, CF98 and QSZ92 are names of the same gun.

QSZ92 is the Chinese official name to 5.8mm version of the gun.

NP42 was the Norinco made version

CF98 is the Chang Feng Machinery Tools make.


The firing mechanism is same for all, diff comes in caliber & barrel life.

taimikhan Sir, I think our esteemed senior member 12 Guage explained this point in detail in one of the threads that QSZ92 (sidearm of PLA, available in both 9mm para as well as 5.8mm Chinese), NP42 and CF98 are all names of the same pistol. All have been manufactured by CHONGQING CHANG-FENG MACHINE MANUFACTURING. Norinco has just been exporting them with the names of NP42 and CF98.
regards

[139]

+1 on different CF98 markings. I've even seen one marked 'Shaheen'! I went for the NP42 with Norinco logo.
Shaheen is basically the company which is making CF 98 clones near Pehawer. An acquaintance got a roundabout 16k price tag for Shaheen made clone.....

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Do we have locally made CF 98 clones also :rolleyes: :o
You doubt it? Technically term them counterfeits... a desi copy

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[Haider Shah]

Is NP 22 superior than NP 42 ?

Any one having experience of NP 22 0r its smaller version NP34, Why few pistols like CF 98 are designed with safety where as NP 22 is with out safety, is it with a purpose or a model feature or to make it more practical in a state of readiness in combat zones as I have been told that pistols with out safety are purely meant for practical shooting i.e operations ? Regards

[taimikhan]

taimikhan Sir, I think our esteemed senior member 12 Guage explained this point in detail in one of the threads that QSZ92 (sidearm of PLA, available in both 9mm para as well as 5.8mm Chinese), NP42 and CF98 are all names of the same pistol. All have been manufactured by CHONGQING CHANG-FENG MACHINE MANUFACTURING. Norinco has just been exporting them with the names of NP42 and CF98.
regards

Then i don't understand what you wish to ask if you know it already.

[Ka_Khan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qwCDVO9ZqM

Target shooting at 25 yards

Very nice range.Now where is this ? :)
I hope not Jamrud ;)

[PsiFactor]

Range is in ormarh payan near bada beara.

[Ka_Khan]

@PSi ... i regularly visit this area :/ ... havent seen it.Is this private??

[PsiFactor]

yes this is private range it is Dr. Inam ullah khan Gandapur Hujra.

[Khakwani]

Dear respected members,

I was thinking to buy CF 98 but reading all threads i am confused that shall i buy Cf 98 or NP 42? please advice. and if you guys recommend NP 42 for its better barrel life can you suggest where can i find or in lahore or within punjab. please also give me the complete detail like dealer name and phone numbers?


Regards,
Kashif Khakwani

[hypermax]

Hi everyone ! Can I have a question ? In Wikipedian and world.guns.ru , they say that "QSZ 92 's magazine has 15 round".But I just saw faisal balouch's QSZ92 magazine hasn't to much than 10 round. Thanks for any answer!!!

[Anthrax]

Dear respected members,

I was thinking to buy CF 98 but reading all threads i am confused that shall i buy Cf 98 or NP 42? please advice. and if you guys recommend NP 42 for its better barrel life can you suggest where can i find or in lahore or within punjab. please also give me the complete detail like dealer name and phone numbers?


Regards,
Kashif Khakwani

Go to the "Firearms availability and dealer review" section of the forum and look for a thread for the Arms dealer "PARA". You can get a CF-98 from there. You won't be able to find the NP-42 that easily since CF-98 is pretty much the same. As for the barrel life, are you going to shoot 10,000 rounds out of a 30k handgun? 1000 rounds for 30,000. Do the math.

[A.Abbas]

Dear respected members,

I was thinking to buy CF 98 but reading all threads i am confused that shall i buy Cf 98 or NP 42? please advice. and if you guys recommend NP 42 for its better barrel life can you suggest where can i find or in lahore or within punjab. please also give me the complete detail like dealer name and phone numbers?


Regards,
Kashif Khakwani

Go to the "Firearms availability and dealer review" section of the forum and look for a thread for the Arms dealer "PARA". You can get a CF-98 from there. You won't be able to find the NP-42 that easily since CF-98 is pretty much the same. As for the barrel life, are you going to shoot 10,000 rounds out of a 30k handgun? 1000 rounds for 30,000. Do the math.

:o What???

or I should say... :rolleyes:

Thanks Anthrax dear,
You finally answered today 31/08/10 to the query posted on 22/12/09. Do the math. ;)

[A.Abbas]

Anthrax brother, I think, ROZAY lagna shuroo ho gaay hain. ;)

[Sparticas]

Chaloo .... we got the benefit of ramzan that very useful thread got alive. :)

[Anthrax]

Anthrax brother, I think, ROZAY lagna shuroo ho gaay hain. ;)

Haha, that's for sure. ;)

Didn't see the date of the query. But hey, at least they can't say now that we're not a helpful bunch.

[A.Abbas]

Anthrax brother, I think, ROZAY lagna shuroo ho gaay hain. ;)

Haha, that's for sure. ;)

Didn't see the date of the query. But hey, at least they can't say now that we're not a helpful bunch.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
That is the spirit.