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mimran
23-02-2011, 12:02 AM
Why 30 bore pistol with 14 rounds in magazine (double bullets) is not a successful pistol, can anyone tell me technical limitations behind it briefly.
Thank you in advance.

amirch99
23-02-2011, 12:33 AM
salam bros.sorry to say i dont agree on it i have a tt in 14 rounds .i bought it few years before and its working perfectly i used to fire full megazine init at a time and once i fired 3 megazine together .and i was going good and bullets was locel made..so if i will use chinese so it can giv me more better result..and it made by pashwer arms factory.and brand name is shanguy .it good any ways.but some tim a problem comes in those pistols when v put complete 14 rounds and megs stuck some tim.i have seen in some pistols its better if u load 12 or 13 round so it will good.becoz whn v load 14 rounds in megs so it got hard and then pistol took empty out but get stuck in new coming bullet..for me i think that the problem thanx .god bless all of us

sayyedain
23-02-2011, 12:46 PM
dara peoples are trying to make it more good and reliable. it is a very good pistol

Faheem
23-02-2011, 09:37 PM
Why 30 bore pistol with 14 rounds in magazine (double bullets) is not a successful pistol, can anyone tell me technical limitations behind it briefly.
Thank you in advance.

This is really good that some users of local handguns are happy with their weapons and their performance but mostly dont like these craps.... I have seen 3 different 14 shot local made 30 bores and found all are junk. fired only 60 to 70 rounds ok than start FTF problem..... on the other hand there is no resale of these handguns, we bought last one in 14k in October 2010 and existing resale value is just 3 to 3.5 k maximum...

sayyedain
24-02-2011, 09:32 PM
i have got 14 bullets 30 bore pistol 3 years before i found it great pistol. only draw back was that start fired 3 bullets when its triger support metal plate got damage after 100 bullets. but later that was fixed. that was made on order and was extremely accurate even more than 50 metter that can hit in 3 inch circle. and i fired 500 bullets through that without an issue

a55kika
24-02-2011, 11:09 PM
TT is concealable...

mimran
08-03-2011, 11:07 PM
One of the most common error in these type of pistol is double feeding (two bullets try to insert into barrel at the same time) Why this happened very frequently in 30 bore (double bullets) pistol as compare to other bore pistol,
I need some technical explanation on it if anybody can provide me.

Thanks in Advance

sayyedain
09-03-2011, 10:14 PM
One of the most common error in these type of pistol is double feeding (two bullets try to insert into barrel at the same time) Why this happened very frequently in 30 bore (double bullets) pistol as compare to other bore pistol,
I need some technical explanation on it if anybody can provide me.

Thanks in Advance

i have not face that problem double feed in 14 bullets tt. but that problem is cause of whole wali magzine or the metal plate that hold triger if that got damage than this pistol got crazy and fire 3 bullets when u pull triger once. i think u get ur answer now

mimran
10-03-2011, 12:24 AM
What do you mean by whole wali magazine? , are you talking about auto pistol magazine? (Dara people make this)

sayyedain
15-03-2011, 09:11 PM
yes brother and i m talking about dara adam khel people (gun smiths) trying to make 30 bore double magzine (14 bullet) pistol make more relible and error free

mimran
16-03-2011, 01:46 AM
But I do not have any whole wali magazine , I have used 30 bore pistol with 14 rounds in magazine (double bullets) (http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?5469-30-bore-pistol-with-14-rounds-in-magazine-(double-bullets)) of many different companies (Khaber arms, Hunter, etc) and Dara(PAE,TAE,AAE etc) I always found double feeding issue in these 30 bore pistol, I also have used 9mm pistol of same companies and Dara and in very rare case I found double feeding issue in 9mm, thatís why I am very curious to know about technical reason why 30 bore pistol with 14 rounds in magazine (double bullets) (http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?5469-30-bore-pistol-with-14-rounds-in-magazine-(double-bullets)) is not a successful pistol , (note: we also cannot find any Imported 30 bore pistol with 14 rounds in magazine (double bullets) (http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?5469-30-bore-pistol-with-14-rounds-in-magazine-(double-bullets)) ) , I welcome / appreciate to all experienced member / user and Expert , please give your valuable comments here. Thanks,

PUNJTANI5
08-05-2011, 06:33 PM
if u see the double feed is staggered style and not double column feed type . there is a kink in the mag to guide the ammo to single feed position . sometimes this kink is made a little anteriorly and dur to the shape of the bullet i.e. bottle necked the problem occurs . in new ones this problem is almost nill. actually due to khota style use of guns in our localities the mags get a little khochal (loose) from mag feed lips and thus the problem of double/ tripple feed and stove pipe effect . i hope that u understand my simple explanation .

musk
23-05-2011, 11:55 AM
I have bought 14 shot 30 cal pistol.Please see pics in my album and comment please.

bestmagician83
23-05-2011, 06:52 PM
where is the album man

Nisar
23-05-2011, 07:02 PM
where is the album man

Album in his profile man.

@musk, this is custom made pistol with wooden grip?

mimran
06-07-2011, 09:58 PM
Please can you tell me what is difference b/w staggered style double feed and Column style double feed. How we can know which one is occurring .

Asiftt
07-07-2011, 04:48 AM
Single Stack magazine , with max 8 rounds and the slimmest profile of the gun, is the CHARM of TT-33 and 1911s, don't ruin it with desi modifications, if u need higher capacity guns go for 9mms.

Leopard
14-07-2011, 01:01 PM
I got 30 bore pistol (15 round, Darra made) for rough use & even keeps in my car for SD, never any miss fire or double bullet problem.
Till date I have fired almost 1500 rounds.
The accuracy is also reliable, though not like Stoeger or other range pistols.
While purchasing desi hand guns, need to be very vigilant about the material & also depends upon the dealer who is selling you the gun.
Or if can go to Darra & order yourself, then nothing like it.

Huzaifa
14-07-2011, 02:02 PM
How much pay for it brother & can you share some photos.

Leopard
14-07-2011, 08:39 PM
Sure I will, but can shoot n upload pics. on coming Saturday.

Mohsin
19-07-2011, 12:44 PM
Dear Leopard Brother, I want to buy tt-.30 with most round capacity magazine. can you give suggestions and how much u paid for your 15 round darra pistol.? I am from lahore any reliable dealer?

gujjar15
23-05-2012, 08:22 AM
salam,i need 30bore with 14 bullets anyone want to seell?

ajmal virk
23-05-2012, 09:25 AM
TT with double magazine are not good and durable beacuse there is always problem with mags and double feeding etc also its not easy to hold them because grip is bit bulky so avoid these in place of that you can arrange a long mag for regular TT.

naveed517
24-05-2012, 12:51 PM
AoA,
how r all of u.
i m naveed from lahore.
i have 30bore 10 round mauzar,i want to take an expert persons opinion,
that which is better a 30bore or a 9mm mauzar,according to my vitiate knowledge 30bore throw is more better than 9mm,
is it right?
mian jee me also need ur expert opinion and other expert person also.

sadatpk
24-05-2012, 11:17 PM
AoA,
how r all of u.
i m naveed from lahore.
i have 30bore 10 round mauzar,i want to take an expert persons opinion,
that which is better a 30bore or a 9mm mauzar,according to my vitiate knowledge 30bore throw is more better than 9mm,
is it right?
mian jee me also need ur expert opinion and other expert person also.

br u r welcome,9mm can not be compared with cal 30 and in the same way cal 30 can not be compared with .45,pls go through different threads ,u will gain a lot,any how if by throw u mean hit,than this is the man behind gun who controls the efficacy IN ITS PURE AND REAL SENSE,ALL calibers have their own specifications

naveed517
25-05-2012, 09:57 AM
thanks bro to guide me,
what would u preffere a 9mm or 30 bore?

sadatpk
25-05-2012, 02:00 PM
thanks bro to guide me,
what would u preffere a 9mm or 30 bore?


i request u if u r new to the world of fire arms,pls after acquiring license, get a medium price 9mm like cf98,or Canik 55,under 50k,if u want above 50k,than pls choose among stooger,Cz999,Taurus pt 92 or 99.if u want to spend more than 80 k than Cz duty or Shadow should be ur choices in 9mm,pls decide carefully after handling the gun in ur hand.Happy Shooting

naveed517
28-05-2012, 04:02 PM
once again thank to guide me like younger bro, i really appreciate it.
i m little bit fimilliar with arms, i have my own 30 bore lience.
but ever i have curiosity to see 9 mm,why people use this one while its price high than 30 bore, i m not talking about caliber becoz it not a big deal to spend a hight amount, people use gun for protection n hunting, there is no big differnence in both caliber. there is some thing else to preffer a 9 mm, thats why i feel curiosity.last saturday i met a dealer he is pathan he said me pathan nation mostly use 30 bore pistol i dost not know y u people preffer a 9mm.
"i think due to its hight bullets capacity"

black arrow
28-05-2012, 04:11 PM
once again thank to guide me like younger bro, i really appreciate it.
i m little bit fimilliar with arms, i have my own 30 bore lience.
but ever i have curiosity to see 9 mm,why people use this one while its price high than 30 bore, i m not talking about caliber becoz it not a big deal to spend a hight amount, people use gun for protection n hunting, there is no big differnence in both caliber. there is some thing else to preffer a 9 mm, thats why i feel curiosity.last saturday i met a dealer he is pathan he said me pathan nation mostly use 30 bore pistol i dost not know y u people preffer a 9mm.
"i think due to its hight bullets capacity"
Yes, also 'gentlemen' prefer 9mm due to less penetrative nature. Good for SD, gets there, packs a punch, does the job.

naveed517
31-05-2012, 02:53 PM
thanks for guide me SD n Black arrow u also,i got my ans.

ajjab khan
07-08-2012, 11:50 PM
A O A Leopard you tell me where i buy darra made 30 bore (15 round)
you tell me about Beretta 92fs copy ??????ifi buy beretta 92fs he is best or no

agha sang
08-08-2012, 02:19 AM
Hi . Plz tell me the price of tt.pistol pakistan maded

Khan381
08-08-2012, 02:23 AM
Hi . Plz tell me the price of tt.pistol pakistan maded
5k to 15k..

Ahmad82
08-08-2012, 12:51 PM
Even Beretta Clone 30 Bore and 9mm in Same price
?


5k to 15k..

Enigmatic Desires
09-08-2012, 03:23 AM
All betty (Local) clones are around 18 to 22k

Irrespective of wether its .30 or 9mm. However it is not advisable to buy a .30 berreta. the round is more powerful then the 9m and the betty has been designed around the 9mm. Most ethical dealers (meaning those who did not have .30 betties in stock ) told me its not feasable to use a .30 round in a weapon designed for the 9mm

Safdar Mahmood Khan
21-05-2013, 12:15 PM
14 shot TTs aren't successful because like other local pistols they start having FTF,FTE and other problems after a few hundred shots.This is only because of the low quality of material used in the manufacturing of these guns.