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Cap1
07-01-2009, 09:36 AM
What rifles can be put on the NBP license which allows .22 cal only (Can I put 5.56mm / .222 semi-auto)? Lets see what are the choices available. Please post prices and links. Thanks.

Firepower!
07-01-2009, 11:28 AM
What rifles can be put on the NBP license which allows .22 cal only (Can I put 5.56mm / .222 semi-auto)? Lets see what are the choices available. Please post prices and links. Thanks.

No.

You can, however, place a 22 Hornet, 22 Magnum, 22 lr and 22 short on NPB license. Prices depend on what you like, etc. A 22 Magnum by CZ is available in ISB (haji amin) for 110,000, but it really should be around 60,000.

Omkhan
09-01-2009, 06:59 PM
what about .22-250 . Is that even available here?

Firepower!
09-01-2009, 07:18 PM
you may be able to if you know dc well in that case any bolt action. In fact i know some one who does just this for 25000 rs but no 222, 223 and 7.62.

Cap1
15-01-2009, 08:09 AM
I'm looking for NPB clones of AK47 and M16. Any tips?
So far I just saw MP5 clone GSG-5 online approx cost about 125K
http://www.pakguns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=58

Acciprone
15-01-2009, 09:57 AM
Cap .

YOu can look at amrscor AK .22 . These are Philipines made and should cost you around 30-35 k both of them I have a friend who is selling his romanian AK .22 but the problem is its also automatic. So i am not sure if you would like to go for that.

Another point i want to ad is that Armscor gun look great on the web but see it in person i was not impressed. The only two worth looking at are the GSG and the Walther.

Firepower!
15-01-2009, 11:00 AM
There is also an M16 clone made in Philippines. I used to have it when I was 12.. ah long time ago...and unfortunately when I was about 16 I sold it for a real M16....now I regret it since I have the M16s but not that.

Shariq
15-01-2009, 07:06 PM
I had it too. My first gun. Sold it in 91 for HK-4.

Acciprone
15-01-2009, 08:33 PM
I'm looking for NPB clones of AK47 and M16. Any tips?
So far I just saw MP5 clone GSG-5 online approx cost about 125K
http://www.pakguns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=58


http://www.armscor.com.ph/autorifle.htm

check ths link it might be helpful for u

Cap1
15-01-2009, 10:01 PM
Thanks!

Cap1
04-02-2009, 07:22 PM
Pir Sahib, sir please tell us about the Czech BRNO .22 LR. About how much a used one in good condition should cost? I am looking for something under 30K as anything more is probably too much (for me) to spend on a range toy. So far the GSG5 and G22 have been discussed, but there must be cheaper more basic ones out there. I'm new to all this so not sure what to look for and how to evaluate a used rifle's condition and judge the price.

Pir Sahib
05-02-2009, 01:16 AM
Cap 1, It is bolt action and about 60 years old of my father in good condition. you can buy used under 20k

BlackCloak
05-02-2009, 01:42 AM
Cap1,
BRNO 2-E (equivalent or perhaps an older model of CZ 452) is available in the market. I believe CZ stopped making this model i.e. 2-e some time in the 80s/90s, however their present model i.e 452 is nearly the same (comparison of actual 2-e with 452 manual:) ). The rifle is market "Made in Czechoslovakia" and we know that country became history in 1992, so these rifles are definetly older than that. However damn good starting rifle on .22LR, and should be round about within your budget. If you bargain.. may be even cheaper:)
Just for info, the Navy Rifle Teams starts their training from this rifle!!! before they move to match grade.

Firepower!
05-02-2009, 10:38 AM
I saw a 22 magnum brand new for 110 by CZ.

Its bit expensive but a very useful caliber.

Cap1
12-02-2009, 07:25 AM
Thanks Pir Sahib, BlackCloak and Firepower!
A dealer told me yesterday that now we can also put 7mm bolt action rifles on the MoI Islamabad NPB license. Have you heard the same? Sounds like we should avail it while it lasts. Any recommendations on weapon choices in 7mm bolt?

Conceal Carry
12-02-2009, 11:45 PM
For all members information. New rules allow all bolt action rifles on NPB licence, even the ones which have .22 mentioned oon them.

Cap1
13-02-2009, 07:15 AM
That's great. What would you recommend for range practice, good looks and reasonably priced ammo? I guess bolt action isn't much good for SD so haven't mentioned that purpose.

Conceal Carry
14-02-2009, 11:12 PM
.22 is best for range practice. Cheap ammo, cheap gun, less recoil, etc.

Shariq
15-02-2009, 12:53 PM
For all members information. New rules allow all bolt action rifles on NPB licence, even the ones which have .22 mentioned oon them.
Can a .223 bolt action rifle be on a NPB license or is it still PB?

Ahmad
15-02-2009, 01:14 PM
@ conceal carry did you get the letter or have you seen it.our district office do not get it yet

Firepower!
15-02-2009, 06:14 PM
yes it would be helpful to see a copy of the notification before we start posting alleged good news.

Osam
17-02-2009, 08:48 PM
I was at a dealer today and saw a 7mm rifle. Parker-England. The dealer told me it can be bought on a npb license, is it true? and what are the uses of a 7mm rifle?

TAREEN
17-02-2009, 09:33 PM
I was at a dealer today and saw a 7mm rifle. Parker-England. The dealer told me it can be bought on a npb license, is it true? and what are the uses of a 7mm rifle?

We read this good news on the forum yesterday that bolt-action rifles of any caliber can be put on a NPB license. Though someone was expected to post some authentic reference / source to validate this. Osam is the second person to fortify this news. I hope its true. BTW 7mm is considered amongst the best calibers for medium to big game hunting.

Which model was the rifle, & how much was the dealer asking for it?

Osam
17-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Dont know about the model as im not into rifles much. A dealer bought boxes in the shop i inquired and the brand name was PARKER made in ENGLAND it was 7mm. I asked whether it could be bought on a NPB license and he was like yes. He quoted 22k for it. And is it only for huting or it can also be used at a 300mtr shooting range?

Firepower!
17-02-2009, 10:48 PM
Both.

22 is pretty good price for it. What is the condition like?

TAREEN
17-02-2009, 10:52 PM
Like for any gun, shooting range is a test track to tune your gun and handling skills. These rifles & calibers are best enjoyed when over a rest & under a scope.

Price 22k is cheaper than a Philippines' 22lr rifle.

Osam
18-02-2009, 12:31 AM
It is brand new and the name i confirmed is Parker Hale.

TAREEN
18-02-2009, 11:03 AM
I wonder if Parker Hale 7mm is available in Lahore market. I have one free license I would love to put this gun on. If someone can help find that pls?

Firepower!
18-02-2009, 11:19 AM
OSAM
Buy it at that price. Once the licenses for bolt action formerly open up you might not see it for that price. Its a good 7mm, especially since its new, to have for your hunting and up to 600 yards snipping needs.

Naazer
18-02-2009, 11:28 AM
Just information on the NPB Rifle license is as follows:

- On a NPB license any NPB caliber weapon can be bought as long as it is not a semi automatic. For a semi automatic the only option is .22. As such, any bolt action is legal on a NPB. Sometimes, your relationship with a dealer will play a part. As long as the license is not suspect, credentials of the buyer are ok then there should be no issue.

- For NPB licenses issued before 1989, you can own any NPB caliber in either semi automatic or bolt action. (This obviously excludes service calibers such as 5.56 or 7.62). Infact, even if the license is a duplicate of one issued before the 'Only 22 semi auto condition' the Home Ministry is bound to honor the original issue date of the license. Case in point is my own license where though the book says in print that only a .22 semi auto is allowed the home ministry made a notation that since license is a duplicate of a pre-1989 license a 222 or 223 can be bought and possessed by the licensee.

The condition of only a 22 semi auto was introduced later on when proliferation of semi auto rifles and licenses was extensive.

I would advise members that if they ortheir parents have an old license (before 1989) then they value it and keep it safe. Also, in many cases these old licenses (esp for our grand parents or parents generations) will have .22 bolt actions on them. Its better to transfer those rifles to new licenses and keep the older one either free or for use for semi auto rifles.

Hope this helps clarify some questions.

Firepower!
18-02-2009, 03:26 PM
The date is 1999 and 1995 not 1989 for these restrictions.

Osam
18-02-2009, 03:55 PM
I would love to but have only one license the other one is still a stuck up.

Pir Sahib
18-02-2009, 04:13 PM
the parker hale is available about 22k in market but it is pakistan assembled. the original rifle was about 60k two years ago

Pir Sahib
18-02-2009, 04:17 PM
cap 1 you can buy ERMA 22 lr it is about 30k and semi auto

Osam
18-02-2009, 04:22 PM
Pakistani assembled hmm.. Pir Sahib any reviews on the performance?

Firepower!
18-02-2009, 05:22 PM
Parker Hale has shut down quite some time ago. I am not sure how they are being assembled in Pakistan, or has Toyota taken over the assembley plant here?!

Cap1
18-02-2009, 09:32 PM
Thanks Pir Sahib. Waiting for licenses and then preference would be to go for a 7mm bolt action. I have no real need for a semi-auto small caliber rifle.

Ahmad
18-02-2009, 10:00 PM
@ FP, these rifles are supposed to be assembled By Ghulam Muhammad Dosal & sons. the mysterious licensed manufacturer for a number of brands. these rifles are not new as they are at least thirty years old. Original British rifles are more than 60 years old usually.
cheers

Osam
18-02-2009, 10:17 PM
Thanks for the info Ahmad but i dont think there is any problem in just being assembled locally if the parts are original and it does not matter to me if they are even re-furbished for 22000 still it is a great purchase in the price.

Ahmad
18-02-2009, 11:21 PM
@ osam thats a good price, you can not get a decent new 22 in this range.
cheers

Naazer
19-02-2009, 08:37 AM
Sorry about the year of .22 Condition.....and thanks for the correction!