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Abbas
31-10-2010, 11:41 AM
Salams,

A lot friends start off with Airguns before graduating to firearms. Firearms need cleaning and lubrication after every firing session, is it the same for airguns ? How often should they be cleaned and how ?

Also what are felt cleaning shots and can firearm cleaning equipment (powder solvents / brass brushes) be used ?

Topak
31-10-2010, 12:29 PM
i did used a Diana 45 for few years,just did dusting of it,never oiled or cleaned its barrel or internals.
its an interesting topic to follow.
but one thing is sure never put any solvent/lubricant in its piston..

Yardie Jutt
31-10-2010, 01:13 PM
Abbas bhai thanks a lot for opening up this subject, i have been thinking to do so as am in air gunning myself
waiting anxiously for insight of our well-experienced members in this sector, especially the likes of Dr.hanif, Gillani n Tareen sb :)

shahroze
31-10-2010, 01:54 PM
air gun need to be oiled every 5-6 months
oiling is done in its barrel from the barrel to its hammer the * from which the air pressure come * the oil has to shaken in it so every part is oiled

further more air guns need oiling to its spring every 2 months as for the spring becomes clogged and it reduces fps greatly

i also should add that the trigger area should be oiled that reduces creaks and other sounds and the trigger is attached to some what its recoil parts oiling a air guns trigger might cause less recoil

the back part of the air gun known as the knob it play a very interesting role in air gun all the air compressor is stored there
that part should also be oiled

the oil in the air gun should not be removed it should allow to soak down it usally takes 2 days in summers for it to soak
and i prefer WD 40 oil spray

Hamid
31-10-2010, 02:50 PM
Oil or any chemical inside the barrel is a NO NO. Oil causes internal combustion. Airgun barrel is self cleaning. Every second shot removes the residue left by the first shot.

Yes some of the internal require slight lubrication after every 6 months or so.

Dr Hanif Malik
31-10-2010, 05:16 PM
genarly no need for cleaning,like hand gun or shot guns,but to save from rust little care is necessary :)

jagga
31-10-2010, 05:59 PM
An air rifle will be at its best if properly lubricated and cleaned and will last a long time,but if ignored or done incorrectly it can ruin the rifle.there are different parts on a rifle and each part or area requires different lubricant.A caring owner will listen to his weapon and know when something requires attention.A correcty lubed air rifle will last a lot longer,be easier to cock and will be more accurate due to more speed and less vibration.If done incorrecly the mainspring and piston will be ruined within a few shots.this is caused by compressing flammable lubricants and air and is called dieseling because its the same explosion that occurs within a diesel engine. this is something that must be avoided at all costs because airguns are not designed to withstand such high pressures caused by dieseling.

Do not use excessive amounts of petroleum based lubricants such as; WD-40, CLP (clean, lube, protect), powder solvents, or most anything from the firearms world. Firearms cleaners/lubes/solvents often cause dieseling in your airguns, and can result in a dead airgun

WD 40 IS A NO NO because it is disastrous on seals and other synthetic parts. This oil has very strong solvent properties that actually break or decompose some rubber seals and o-rings and will cause dieseling because its petroleum based

Mainspring:
this has to provide the power and must be able to move with as little friction and vibration as possible,if it is noisy when being cocked it requires some lube.about 5 or 6 drops of oil should be sufficient,or if the gun is stripped down it should be coated in spring tar or moly grease and refitted,its best to put less oil in than too much because its easy to ruin a gun with over lubrication.


Compression Chamber:
this is the part where the air is compressed by the piston,the air is heated to 2000 degrees farenheit for a fraction of a second by the compression and for this reason only high flash point lubricants must be used.WARNING!! If any normal petroleum based lubricant is used this will cause an explosion called dieseling which can very quickly destroy a spring gun. only special chamber oil should be used in this area


Barrel:
If any normal petroleum based lubricant is used this will cause an explosion called dieseling which can very quickly destroy a spring gun. only special chamber oil should be used in this area. Airguns dont use powders or primers so dont suffer from rust but it is important to clean the bore to maintain accuracy,do not use brass brushes as they can damage the rifling if used too vigorously and once again do not use any petroleum based lubricant or this will destroy your gun by dieseling,use felt cleaning pellets which are like thin cigarette filter tips and will expand when fired or use dry patch pull throughs till clean and oil free being very carefull not to rub the crown of the barrel with the pullthru cord. I fire 6 or 7 thin cigarette felt tips with a pointed pellet behind them to increase expansion every every 500 shots to remove excees lead build up in the barrel and it restores accuracy,you will have to fire 5 to 10 shots after cleaning to restore a little lead in the barrel and restore the accuracy (you need a slight coating of lead in the barrel for accuracy).alternatively felt rods may be used once again being carefull not to rub the crown or barrel with the steel rod.


Trigger Mechanism:
this should be oiled lightly


Hinges and pivot bolts:
these should be oiled regularly and just one drop should be enough or a small amount of grease can be used.


Stock Screws and pivot screw
these should be checked for tightness and not overtightened as that can ruin the stock.When loose it will ruin your accuracy,if you find they keep coming loose use loctite on the threads


NOTE: Diana air rifles are very well built but come from the factory with little or no lube and creak and groan when cocked because the parts are too dry,A rifle that is stripped, deburred, lubed and the mainspring tarred correctly and molybdenum grease on the sides of the piston will be a lot smoother,more reliable, last longer and will be a lot more accurate than one that is used in its factory state

Dr Hanif Malik
31-10-2010, 06:41 PM
Oil or any chemical inside the barrel is a NO NO. Oil causes internal combustion. Airgun barrel is self cleaning. Every second shot removes the residue left by the first shot.

Yes some of the internal require slight lubrication after every 6 months or so.
well said brother ,,did you change place ,lahore,, in your location???

wasifali89
01-11-2010, 07:21 PM
i dont oil mine as ive ruined an airgun and and airpistol before

the pistol was a crossman side lever
and the gun was a daisy underlever

Abbas
02-11-2010, 01:12 AM
@Yardie. Hey good to see you around !

@Jagga & Shahroze Excellent posts. If one of you can do a little tutorial with pictures like the one in the Maintenance section about handguns I will make this topic sticky.

shahsaeen
02-11-2010, 03:21 AM
I have quite some experience with air rifle.

For the outside parts rub them with clp or oil very sparingly and wipe off finger prints after handling with oily rag. This is all there is to it.

For internal parts you should worry about maintenance after 1000 shots. Before 1000 shots the barrel is self cleaning. The lead deposited by pellet is removed when next pellet is fired. Therefore barrel is not a cause of worry. But if you plan to store it. Pass some silicon oil patches through it to remove lead buildup and oil barrel. When u take it out of storage pass dry patches to remove oil. Remember barrel should be cleaned in direction of pellet travel, from loading point to exit point. Use the flexible rod that comes with the cd size otis cleaning kit. Patch is a piece of old cotton vest.

Now after 1000 shots main worry is about spring breaking. Do not open up the air rifle stock with driver as this will ruin accuracy. Use a spray clp or gun oil in aerosol and spray using long fine nozzle inside trigger area, the hinge area in center and the sides of the top metal portion in the center. Then leave the oil to drain for 1 night.

Now for inside of piston load air rifle and put 3 drops of silicone oil into it ONLY. After sometime fire it to unload it. With finger put some silicone oil on washer between break barrel and piston.

This is all there is to it. Remember only use silicone oil for inside. It is available at exercise fitness equipment shops. Repeat again after 1000 shots.

Vik
03-11-2010, 12:43 AM
i did used a Diana 45 for few years,just did dusting of it,never oiled or cleaned its barrel or internals.
its an interesting topic to follow.
but one thing is sure never put any solvent/lubricant in its piston..

Ok. I did that. And Crossman is not performing properly. Its shooting low.
Will find some time and get it checkedup by a gunsmith.

Skeeter60
05-11-2010, 10:43 AM
JAGGA
Very nice and useful information. Mr Jagga keep up the good work

Umair Bhaur
31-08-2011, 02:49 PM
Airguns dont need cleaning after each session as there is no fire blast in them. They need to be cleaned after 750 shots. The older Diana Guns and all other old guns had Leather Piston Seals in them which required lubrication of Silicon oil. But these days no leather seal are in airguns rather synthetic seal are being used which are self lubing. Hence there is no need to put even one drop in the compression chamber before 750 shots. Even after 750 shots one drop of silicon oil is good enough.

For the remaining parts of the airgun any kind of Mobil oil is best. The cleaning of barrel is required after 1000 shots by means of pull through using mobil oil.

This is all.

There is one more thing important that we people in Pakistan think that the airgun should never be opened / dissassembled. But in fact every airgun should be opened every few years for internal cleaning and proper lubing. But please do not give your gun tro any gunsmith as even the best gunsmith in Pakistan does not know which grease to use and which oil to use.

The magnum air guns like 48, 52, 54, 56th, 460 and 350 will be destroyed by wrong lubing. So you need to learn how to open an airgun and how to lube and which lubes are required for this purpose.

Umair Bhaur

Ka_Khan
31-08-2011, 08:55 PM
Maintaining Air guns is like first lesson one has to learn before graduating to Fire arms.Very nice topic.
@Jagga your input is valuable for new commers.One thing i have learnt is not to use oil in the piston area,it will damage the seal.

M.ASIF KHAN
31-08-2011, 10:31 PM
@jagga
Very nice and useful information bro

aj
06-09-2011, 06:17 PM
We need to document this. Can someone please add photographs and explain it to us. And if anyone knows a link (video/pics) where we can learn how to disassemble our air rifles and oil them then it will be very helpful.