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Jillanik
16-09-2010, 09:37 PM
Yesterday saw Webley & Scott side by side & over & under shotgun at one of the arms dealer located in Nila Guband Lahore. These shotguns are being made at Turkey. Prices are on higher side. Over & Under is for 225 K & Side by Side is 300 K plus. All of Webley current range of shotguns are being made at Turkey.
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Afzaal
16-09-2010, 09:49 PM
thankx for the info bro
Even weblay and scott is a famous name by u.k
But IMHO no one will agree to drain such handsome amount on turkish made.

Since other famous brands are available at same price.

Jillanik
16-09-2010, 10:10 PM
Afzaal : I fully agree with you. The price of Turkey made W&S shouldnt be in the range of 125 K to 150 K.

wasifali89
16-09-2010, 10:50 PM
i think even less ....... as i think they should be less than the russians atleast

TAREEN
17-09-2010, 07:57 AM
I saw one with Chaudhry Arms, Main Boulevard. Excellent finish, way better than other Turkish brands, but 245k (if its a Turkish) makes it extremely overpriced.

Arslan_tareen
17-09-2010, 01:56 PM
i think its a 900 model of Webley & Scott when faced with financial troubles Webley made a deal with a Turkish firm and its low range 800 and 900 model were transfered to for production in turkey , now about the pricing 900 was brought in by webley and scot in the first place to be the cheapest model available , its pricing goes from 395 to 500 for nib , and then the Turkish build quality has generated some questions and the prices are now as down as 300 for new in box 900 , this year webley launched a new 900K model for which they have stated that the barrells are now proofed for steel shotsin there famous armory in Birmingham and many more improvements there retail price which nearly half the things made in britan and italy is 725 brand new with a very expensive box 5 internal chokes and other small bits and bobs ,
so asking 250K for a gun thats suppose to be webleys low level low price option is nothing but making fun of Gun lovers in Pakistan , there is no question the gun is miles ahead of other Turkish over and under of 50k range and of many Russians , add another 25k for the quality and then may be another 25k for the brand name so seriously the gun should be no more then 100K if older model and 150k for a Brand new 900k "Sporter model" imported from Britain not from turkey the one from turkey should be for 125k max ... any one who pays more then that is either a Fool .. or .. well you know what i mean .

Topak
17-09-2010, 03:33 PM
these should not be more than 60K, but we r not who set the prices,they can even ask 400K for it.

Avais
17-09-2010, 11:51 PM
Arslan brother: I agree with your recommendations.

Jillanik
18-09-2010, 05:19 PM
As per the email received from Webley UK " All of Webley current range of shotguns are made in Turkey ".

Amjad Ali
18-09-2010, 07:03 PM
As per the email received from Webley UK " All of Webley current range of shotguns are made in Turkey ".


are you sure about the making in Turkey .

Jillanik
18-09-2010, 10:54 PM
Amjad Ali : You can also have this confirmation by sending an email to sales@webley.co.uk

Virk
19-09-2010, 02:15 AM
Arm Dealers are demanding more amount then worth of Turkish Shotgun.

Dr Hanif Malik
19-09-2010, 07:34 AM
better to see and wait ,prices will down soon :)

Jillanik
19-09-2010, 10:02 PM
Lets hope so !

Apalo
28-09-2010, 07:57 PM
better to see and wait ,prices will down soon :)
Ka_Khan can i write Punjabi here please, as i cant translate the following.

oh dehara doba, jadoon kore chareya kuba. :)

SHOTGUNNER
29-09-2010, 03:26 PM
i would not pay this much for webley & scott. i will rather have bretta or browning.

Jillanik
29-09-2010, 06:47 PM
Agree with you Mr. Mazhar Rehman. Another dealer in Nila Guband has imported these guns from Turkey. Let see what he demands.

jagga
29-09-2010, 07:18 PM
ridiculous price for a cheaply manufactured turkish made gun

Jillanik
01-10-2010, 10:40 PM
Fakhr-e-Alam Arms dealer has also imported these Turkish made Webley & Scott shotguns & when ever some asks him about its origin...............The response is " These are originals ". I don't know why few arms dealers try to befool the gun enthusiast. The earlier one was demanding 220K for O/U and Mr. Khan is demanding 180 K which is still on higher side.

francolino
02-10-2010, 04:57 AM
Received an email from Webley & Scott England, that their series 3000 shotguns are made in Turkey and exported to Pakistan ...i checked prices from their mentioned distributor. As the guns have just arrived there. They are a bit too high for a turkish made gun. Rs1.8lac and Rs2.5lac. Asking prices. For over and under and side by side respectively. What do you think...isn't buying other Italian made Berettas in this price range a better option rather than buying a turkish made gun? Among turkish then Yildiz would be a better buy. W&S O/U was a bit lighter than SxS which i found a bit on heavier side.

bigbore
02-10-2010, 09:38 AM
Turkey is to guns, as what china is to other goods.
turkey is quickly becoming a center for gun manufacturing because of there cheap labor. brands like Stoeger, mossberg, tri star, and even beretta is getting there guns or gun parts manufactured from turkey.

Basharat
02-10-2010, 12:08 PM
the retail price in the UK works out to a bit over 100k Rupees. so if you add duties etc and the premium i guess 225k is not that unreasonable (i wouldn't pay that much personally but if you do the calculation the price makes sense)

Viking
02-10-2010, 12:35 PM
i think quality is not a issue bcoz like china is also make a good stuff all thing depand on company k which level of quality you order to contractor so there is a posibility k w&s donst spoil company name n dont compromise with quality,baki rahe bat price ki to if dealer asking these rates to uk import w&s then these rates is ok bcoz duties n ban on export in pakistan mager ab kia masla hai jab yai turkey se import horahe hai i think dealers r trying to make fool on just name of this gun

Jillanik
06-10-2010, 10:22 PM
Ethically arms dealer should tell the truth instead of fooling customers for few extra bucks.

Jillanik
18-10-2010, 10:15 PM
Finally prices of Turkish made Webley & Scott coming down.

SHOTGUNNER
19-10-2010, 12:55 AM
jillanik sahib
sir what is the price now for W & S.

Turumti
19-10-2010, 01:34 AM
Till a few decades back, Webley and Scott was purely and English gun, then about twenty odd years back, they moved production of some of their guns to Spain, to cut labour costs. Recently, they moved eastwards again to Turkey, to further reduce labour costs. Judging by their eastward movement, I wouldnt at all be surprised to find in our very own Darra in a few years!!

Jillanik
21-10-2010, 09:34 PM
Turumti : "Darra" What a prediction................. :lol:

Avais
21-10-2010, 09:46 PM
I heard that these guns are with fixed chokes? If it is correct than it worth not more than 70K.

Jillanik
22-10-2010, 10:07 PM
These Turkish made O/U shotguns are with 05 chokes.

Moin
23-10-2010, 12:12 PM
the prices i saw in their web site was 725 british pound , so the price in pk not that bad for O/U,
@turumti any idea what should be the price of browning miroku 26 inch o/u single trigger multiple choke, i havent seen the gun but some one sold for 95k and how do you rate the gun?

Aquarius
23-10-2010, 02:06 PM
Turkish Webley & Scott.. Must be a very nice shotgun indeed.. :)

Mian-50
23-10-2010, 04:58 PM
@Moin Sahib,

Any body having a chance of acquiring a'' MIRUKO'' for 95K with 80-90% condition should not even think for
5-minutes to grab a deal.Very practical and strongly built guns.

Please give us an idea, if somebody has imported these shotguns lately.

Jillanik
30-10-2010, 06:59 PM
Any information regarding Franchi Falconet HT Over & Under shotguns ?.

300 Win
04-11-2010, 10:48 PM
@jillanik
I have saw 2 models in pakistan. They are exellent shotguns and sold 2 lakhs. One model is ultralight an that one priced about 225.It is about 4 years back

PrivateEye
21-05-2011, 08:46 PM
Ran into a Webley & Scott 900 O/U today. A fine shotgun, asking price was 150k
Finish and balance was no less than a high end shotgun. Considering that W&S shotguns are made in Turkey now, but Quality is still top grade. In 150K, not a bad option i would say. Whats your opinion?
This same model was available, not sure if it was a Field model or a Sporting one.
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Mian-50
21-05-2011, 09:04 PM
AoA all,

Although,all these Turkish new entrants get an initial review done by shotgun
experts abroad,but IMHO a comprehensive review should be revised per year.


I would only trust an operator of a busy shooting club where guns are given on
hire and there are few BUSY clubs in Europe and North America where they use
over 200-cartridges per gun per day.

Once a newer model is so extensively used in a shooting club,it tells every thing
regarding its durability and shootability.

Avais
21-05-2011, 10:30 PM
@Privateeye yes the the asking price seems ok, some negotiations and bring down to 125K is worth. BTW what is the asking price for SXS? thanks

hunter468
22-05-2011, 11:32 AM
Ran into a Webley & Scott 900 O/U today. A fine shotgun, asking price was 150k
Finish and balance was no less than a high end shotgun. Considering that W&S shotguns are made in Turkey now, but Quality is still top grade. In 150K, not a bad option i would say. Whats your opinion?
This same model was available, not sure if it was a Field model or a Sporting one.
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i saw the same gun with my friend at Chaudhary arms gulberg about 4months back,the asking price then was 225k........later a little bargain and he said i can give u @ 175k lolzzzzz
the guy said that these r purely made in uk.
a 50k discount in 2minutes
then my mind said to me that there is some thing wrong with the make/model of the gun and we left without the deal.
then from this form i knew that these r being currently made in turkey.
i think that these guns should be priced b/w 90k to 100k.

PrivateEye
22-05-2011, 01:09 PM
@Avais
Sir, he didnt have any SxS, just this O/U

Avais
22-05-2011, 05:10 PM
@Avais
Sir, he didnt have any SxS, just this O/U
Brother thanks for your response.

hameed
13-11-2011, 05:38 PM
In my opinion price along with duties etc, is a little on higher side,Its price should be from 70k to 80k.

SHOTGUNNER
14-11-2011, 04:05 AM
hameed welcome to the form bro.is any member know what is webley & scott price now days.

BaderJanjua
15-11-2011, 11:07 AM
Bought Webley and Scott 900 series from Baksh Elahi Lahore. The gun comes with extended chokes , 5 of them. I havent given it a try and would report on it soon . The gun is a sporting model

haji
15-11-2011, 12:13 PM
Bought Webley and Scott 900 series from Baksh Elahi Lahore. The gun comes with extended chokes , 5 of them. I havent given it a try and would report on it soon . The gun is a sporting model
congrats for the purchase,also share the performance and price of th new toy.

Avais
15-11-2011, 09:30 PM
Bought Webley and Scott 900 series from Baksh Elahi Lahore. The gun comes with extended chokes , 5 of them. I havent given it a try and would report on it soon . The gun is a sporting model
Brother congrats for the new purchase. May I know where W&S manufactures 900 series?

SHOTGUNNER
16-11-2011, 05:15 AM
Bought Webley and Scott 900 series from Baksh Elahi Lahore. The gun comes with extended chokes , 5 of them. I havent given it a try and would report on it soon . The gun is a sporting model

bader janjua sahib congratulation for your new purchase. how much did you pay for it.it would be grateful if you can share it,s proformas and pictures with us thank you.

BaderJanjua
22-11-2011, 08:11 AM
The guns are made in Turkey but are proofed in England. The price tag in England is approx 600 pounds. I got a sporter 30 inches model 912 from baksh Elahi recently. I will give a try over the weekend.

Mastermind
22-11-2011, 11:17 AM
if the Turkish made cost more then 300k. i was wondering what will be cost of original webley and scott made in england will be cost weather its used or new ? does any one have any idea plz.

hussain syed
26-11-2011, 01:24 AM
be aware of international prices check guns international.com or gunsamerica.com then import through lincence dealers

Trigger_happy78
26-11-2011, 08:37 AM
These prices are insanely high, wouldn't pay that kind of money when it says " Made In Turkey" even if its Webley & Scott.

Batu
17-06-2012, 05:26 AM
Hi from Turkiye,
I have seen this forum during my search on google for webley and scott.
As an importer of pakistan made products (footballs, gloves, etc..) i have surprised to see some negative opinions of Pakistani brothers about Turkish made guns. Some are thinking even russian guns are better. I own Perazzi, Beretta and browning. Also turkish made huglu. Now thinking to buy Akus made webley trap gun. I can say Turkish made guns are even better than cheap series Beretta 686 guns. Akus makes 7 pin side by sides. Which are better than 471 series berettas. Brand of Beretta can let you feel happy but Just consider joints quality, wood quality, workmanship. Good quality Turkish guns are far better than baikals. I havent seen a wood grade 5 baikal... I dont know Pakistans tax rates but since we import from Pakistan without custom tax it should be same for Turkish products to Pakistan. We can buy a webley branded akus boxlock side by side with grade 3 walnut for 1200 usd. You cant buy a cheapest beretta here for less than 3000 usd...

Dr Hanif Malik
17-06-2012, 06:57 AM
great share about turkish w$s

Trigger_happy78
17-06-2012, 03:56 PM
Hi from Turkiye,
I have seen this forum during my search on google for webley and scott.
As an importer of pakistan made products (footballs, gloves, etc..) i have surprised to see some negative opinions of Pakistani brothers about Turkish made guns. Some are thinking even russian guns are better. I own Perazzi, Beretta and browning. Also turkish made huglu. Now thinking to buy Akus made webley trap gun. I can say Turkish made guns are even better than cheap series Beretta 686 guns. Akus makes 7 pin side by sides. Which are better than 471 series berettas. Brand of Beretta can let you feel happy but Just consider joints quality, wood quality, workmanship. Good quality Turkish guns are far better than baikals. I havent seen a wood grade 5 baikal... I dont know Pakistans tax rates but since we import from Pakistan without custom tax it should be same for Turkish products to Pakistan. We can buy a webley branded akus boxlock side by side with grade 3 walnut for 1200 usd. You cant buy a cheapest beretta here for less than 3000 usd...

Welcome to Pakguns bro. I also own a Turkish made Akdal mka 1919. Turkish made shotguns are good at price they are sold here thats around 50 55k. I like Hatson and Armson, but if W&S is sold here at 240k pak rupees, with made in Turkey stamped. Isn't it better to put few k's more and buy a Beretta or Browning?