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Kamran_uk75
10-09-2010, 01:06 PM
Dear fellows,
Just after eid I am planning to purchase a Winamax TT, market price quoted here in Sargodha is Rs.18K for N.I.B. Now I need an input from you guys about how could I differentiate between original and fake weapon, plus price check is also required from other members.

Topak
10-09-2010, 01:11 PM
take an expert with you. i think there is no other way,as Pakistani gunsmiths are making them for long time and have mastered it,it will be difficult to differentiate an original one and fake one. buy from trusty dealer who give you receipt and endorse a foreign made pistol on license so if fault found can be handled easily.

Gilani
10-09-2010, 01:12 PM
Kamran sahib, Winamax in 18K :o :o
Please check it in detail because as per my info, original winamax may be over 30k.

Kamran_uk75
10-09-2010, 01:23 PM
Kamran sahib, Winamax in 18K :o :o
Please check it in detail because as per my info, original winamax may be over 30k.
After listening the price I was shocked as well, so no specific tool to judge the original weapon?
I have few more querries like,
is Winamax available in 2 tone?
is the weapon number emborsed somewhere else as well other than rails?

Topak
10-09-2010, 01:31 PM
it was around 20 K in Lahore market,dont know current situation. Zastava is around 30K +.

Kamran_uk75
10-09-2010, 01:32 PM
it was around 20 K in Lahore market,dont know current situation. Zastava is around 30K +.
18K and 20k is much close

PUNJTANI5
10-09-2010, 05:46 PM
u cannot judge it without firing it at a shooting range 4 performance

pre shipment / pre purchase inspection may be the right term

ask an expert to accompany u for the purchase trip and get a written guarantee from the supplier that the product is genuine and such etc

PAKIPOWER
10-09-2010, 09:23 PM
winamax is not avalable 2 tone
not new winamax available in markets only old stock is available with bakhs Alahi ( mall Rd. Lahore) asking price very high almost 40k
there is no marking at winamax in english. only weapon nm. imbose on slide and every othere parts. no other marking like china etc etc.
in my opinian go for norinco which is not good as winamax but there is not much diff. in prformance but huge diff. in price.
Zastawa is best price and quality vise
& for original of chiness tt (whether winamax or norinco)
look crome line barral , and when press slide back u feel ristance on the other hand desi tt is much smoother
thanks

12GAUGE
10-09-2010, 09:38 PM
winamax is not avalable 2 tone
not new winamax available in markets only old stock is available with bakhs Alahi ( mall Rd. Lahore) asking price very high almost 40k
there is no marking at winamax in english. only weapon nm. imbose on slide and every othere parts. no other marking like china etc etc.
in my opinian go for norinco which is not good as winamax but there is not much diff. in prformance but huge diff. in price.
Zastawa is best price and quality vise
& for original of chiness tt (whether winamax or norinco)
look crome line barral , and when press slide back u feel ristance on the other hand desi tt is much smoother
thanks

Sir, I would agree with you. I have a TT with me, which is like really old. no markings on it whatsoever, only weapon number and some three chinese symbols/words. nothing like made in china or caliber. I do not even know if its Norinco made. now how do we differentiate between winamax and Norinco TT?

Regards.

300 Win
10-09-2010, 09:38 PM
winamax was austrian gundealer who import chinese tt pisols to europe. Like now the chinese stuff came pak is of low quality compered to the stuff exported to europe or usa.Winamax imported huge numbers and some of his leftover brought pakistan by some imprters in past. They were better compared to other pistols so winamax become common name in pakistan and lot of other dealer sold their stuff by saying it is winamax. Fake cardboxes printed and even some make engriving on pistols. Still now this thing going on and broad lined pistols are still sold as winamax. Still some old reputed dealer have this but price is over 40k

PAKIPOWER
10-09-2010, 09:56 PM
one more thing bro.
must go for tt .
its a man gun
i think no gun collection is complete without a tt.
what a bang, recoil and a tast of single action

PAKIPOWER
10-09-2010, 10:09 PM
@ 12 gauge
there is no big diff. in look of winamax & norinco tt.
norinco tt is usally marked as made in china exported norinco etc.
and also is available in 2 slide modles big groovs & small grooves slide
but winamax have no such marking as china etc.only chiness symble are there & only seen in big groove slide modle

wasifali89
11-09-2010, 02:17 PM
as far as pakistan is concerned and the way those darra adam khel ppl have progressed

beleive me or not
u cant differenciate between any of these that easily

if winamax is also some norinco then whats the problem in changing the writings and earn some 20k ???? think like a dealer

if winamax just has a fine finish then i might disagree here that what ive seen recently in darra is way way too impressive in its looks........... now maybe a user that is an expert in TTs (specially local works on them)..... he might help u out

do not even judge it by markings or whatever

just take an expert

12GAUGE
11-09-2010, 02:35 PM
winamax have no such marking as china etc.only chiness symble are there & only seen in big groove slide modle

if winamax has only Chinese symbols on the top side of the slide and no other marking whatsoever then I am beginning to think that my TT might also turn out to be a winamax TT.

kindly take a look at the following picture:

http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af103/12gauge-pakguns/TT6.jpg

Regards.

Naveed_pk
11-09-2010, 03:09 PM
Salamz, Guyz winamax tt in 18 k , not possible. In lahore winamax is available only at Baksh ellahi. Asking price is 45 k and finnal he is giving in
40 k. Not less than this.. rest in the lahore market i have seen are all fake.. Very identical like winamax but they are all chinese winamax copy ... And there is a hell of difference in quality.. But only an original user of winamax can judge the difference.. I suggest you if u want to buy original winamax just buy it from baksh ellahi lahore. I bought from them 3 yrs back in 30 k .. And still i have winamax and it is one of its class.. Plz my humble suggest do not trust any other dealer. Coz i have seen plenty of dealers claiming chinese TT as Winamax

300 Win
11-09-2010, 03:38 PM
All chinese weapons are made by state arms factories in china and exported by norinco. Diffrent lots have diffrent condtion but all exported by norinco .For this purpose a marketing office with the name Highlink international has been established in hong kong by norinco. Every chinese weapon coming to pak exported by norinco through Highlink Internationl. lets come on topic old chinese pistol made for winamax austria are slightly better in quality from new imports. Most of said pistols have no,s startin 310- and have prefex of 636 . I have seen few with 270 nos as well.

Topak
11-09-2010, 08:53 PM
it was around 20 K in Lahore market,dont know current situation. Zastava is around 30K +.
18K and 20k is much close
Correction:
have checked the TT which my friend bought in 22K from Lahore,its Chines but not Winamax..... so please dont read the price of Winamax as 20K

Aquarius
13-09-2010, 07:07 PM
Every chinese weapon coming to pak exported by norinco through Highlink Internationl. lets come on topic old chinese pistol made for winamax austria are slightly better in quality from new imports. Most of said pistols have no,s startin 310- and have prefex of 636 .

I have a TT which I bought in 1994... its serial number starts with 310 and has a prefex 636 written on it, but at the same time its written "Made in China By Norinco" on its slide.. so is it Winamax.??

Faisji
14-09-2010, 01:48 PM
Can someone direct me to a website where this gun is featured.

Naveed_pk
14-09-2010, 01:58 PM
I have a TT which I bought in 1994... its serial number starts with 310 and has a prefex 636 written on it, but at the same time its written "Made in China By Norinco" on its slide.. so is it Winamax.??

No Aquarius bro , if it is written clearly by Norinco then its not Winamax.. On winamax nothing is written except serial numbers .. i will upload the pics of my winamax TT Soon :)

Gunpsycho
14-09-2010, 03:09 PM
Brothers the difference in rate is only bcoz of old import and new import the older onces are far far better quality then what they are importing now :) :)

Aquarius
14-09-2010, 08:33 PM
No Aquarius bro , if it is written clearly by Norinco then its not Winamax.. On winamax nothing is written except serial numbers .. i will upload the pics of my winamax TT Soon :)

Thanks Naveed bro for the clarification...... :)