View Full Version : Flobert Starter Guns

11-07-2010, 07:11 PM
I have in my possession a couple of starter guns which shoot Flobert 6mm ammunition. They can also be used to ignite flares.


Flobert 6mm Ammunition:

A comparison of the fired and unfired casings:










When the ejector rod is pressed upon:


This revolver has undergone... umm... experiments...
The cylinder holes were initially blocked. I drilled 'em through:

Here, the barrel is seen. The front sight was removed... it can be seen where it was before.

This one is somewhat faulty. Has a very hard trigger and often has trouble cycling the magazine.









Enjoy the photos!

PS. Does anybody know about the availability of cheap Flobert caps? I bought a box of 100 a few years ago, @Rs. 5 per cap.

12-07-2010, 12:45 AM
wow very nice pictures KF brother

can i know how did u manage to open up the cylinders
i have the same company revolver swing out cylinder and i want to do the same but u know
my drill bit gets blunted

do u know u can place a plastic bb in front of the crimp/ blank
and it can be fired and hit something
i have read it on net

the holster is cery cool and i want to have one
did u buy it or made it your self

how much did u pay for both the guns

any how very nice and impressive photography

Mangloo Ramzani
12-07-2010, 01:21 AM
I remember this pistol, back in 1987, one of my friends had one!

If I remember correctly there is an attachment at the muzzle end for flares, or do the flares fit right in?

12-07-2010, 01:27 AM
You are right brother revolver one needs an attachment for the flares

12-07-2010, 02:12 AM
Well, I've only ignited "China Bombs" (the tiny firecracker things) using the revolver, so I don't know about any attachments or stuff. I fired the only flare I had using the pistol.

12-07-2010, 02:20 AM
The one i had have threads on the end of the barrel to attach an attachment, dont know about your one KF brother

12-07-2010, 03:15 AM
Actually, I did a few "experiments" with the revolver, and lets just say that the barrel received the most attention :lol: If there were any threads in the barrel before, I'm pretty sure there aren't any now...

12-07-2010, 03:16 AM
KF, Excellent photography! Its always a treat to watch the pictures you take. Haven't seen anyone else (Except Connector) on the forum who can take such brilliant and artistic photos. :)

Nice guns as well. The caps that you mentioned, they're supposed to be "Blanks" right? Interesting to know that they can be used as flares as well. Good stuff!

12-07-2010, 03:38 AM
The caps themselves are just blanks. As seen in the third photo, they open up after being fired. Only sound (and smoke). Nothing comes out of the barrel....

Unless you really want it to... :P

The blanks basically act as a go-between to light the flare. Haven't done anything much with the flares, but the revolver can propel a "China Bomb" (or similar projectile) around 10 meters or so (depending on the gun's elevation angle). Usually lights them up pretty well, unless its a dud.

Oh, and thanks a lot for complementing my photography :D. Its a great pleasure to know that I shoot something well ;)

12-07-2010, 11:42 AM
mangloo sb these guns and similar ones have an attachment, it is normally screwed on like a silencer on which the flares fit in. some of the guns have come with clip on but usually the attachment is screwed on. and you can literally ignite any type of flare or pathaka with them. On dry grass or leaves you can even start a fire if you are out camping old school style.

12-07-2010, 01:12 PM
Good Photography KF !
You keep on bringing stuff, which reminds me of my younger years, like the Daisy airgun, you posted in a separate thread and now these flair pistols.
Btw now I know , that flare guns and starter guns are the same thing :P
As I had no idea about starter guns before, always thought they were some special guns with different bullets.
I had both of the guns posted in the above picture when I was younger. In fact, last I checked , I still have the pistol shaped one with me. As for the revolver shaped one, I remember I took the silencer off,so It would look more original like a real revolver, I believe one tends to do such things ,when you are younger. To cut the long story short the revolver shaped flair gun was in the car once and the car was stopped for checking and the rangers in Karachi made a havoc that they have recovered a unlicensed weapon. It took quite some time to explain it to them that it is a toy gun,used for firing flares and crackers. In the end , the revolver was given to them to avoid any more hassle :P

12-07-2010, 03:00 PM
I remember this pistol, back in 1987, one of my friends had one!

If I remember correctly there is an attachment at the muzzle end for flares, or do the flares fit right in?
i had have the pistol with thread on muzzle and attachment,bought in around 85s,if i am not forgetting it costed around 250 PKR.
when i bought this pistol,checked in a public park and from somewhere a cop appeared who checked my pistol,warned and threat me.thanks to some good souls who saved me from the Cop. it was my first interaction with LEA and that too with my pistol :lol: :lol:
thanks KF for showing the pistols..... many of us will retrieve their stories with these toys.

15-07-2010, 07:59 PM
WoW....reminds me of my childhood days. i had a great time playing with these starter pistols and even remember all the different ones I had. there was the RG3(Revolver type), RG8 (pistol 8mm), El-Amin (ppk-copy in 8mm), and a 1911 replica, also in 8mm. I remember once I took the 1911 replica to a gunsmith at lucky star and he couldn't believe that the gun was fake till i showed him the blocked barrel. :)

16-07-2010, 02:50 AM
I also have a couple of hese revolvers . exact these ... but lost the flare attchement on one

16-07-2010, 09:16 PM
wow, beautiful pics
btw if i want to buy a revolver like this , from where i can have one?

sikander zaman1
16-07-2010, 10:27 PM
where can i get these guns?

16-07-2010, 10:32 PM
Well, I'm not really sure about the availability of these things nowadays , I mean, I was given these by an uncle or someone in the family. I did see a 7-shot Flobert revolver in a toy shop in Khadda Market... 3-4 years ago.

17-07-2010, 01:56 AM
Brother Kagefox..I guess now it makes the two of us.

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17-07-2010, 02:15 AM
bhaiyya KF my dear little brother
u havenot replied my queries
i am most interested please please please Please please :D

17-07-2010, 08:02 AM
Now I know why I thought I saw this somewhere on the forum earlier... You seem to have a pretty mighty collection of flares... :D

Salahuddin Ayubi
17-07-2010, 09:30 AM

http://s4.postimage.org/jQLz9.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVjQLz9)


Bro, please guide regarding availability of flares in KHI. Want to buy some.

17-07-2010, 10:14 AM
Somehow missed this thread earlier :|

Nice guns and very impressive photography, KageFox brother :)

17-07-2010, 12:24 PM

Sorry, I missed your post. Will try to answer in the order you asked.

1. I used a .22 or .25 inch iron drill bit. It was pretty easy, after I found a way to remove the cylinder and secure it so that it would not rotate with the drill bit.

2. I made some "homemade ammo" using UHU Tack and .22 Gamo Pro Magnum Pellets. All I can say is that this apparently harmless gun can be lethal at point-blank range.

3. Abba made the holster for me.

4. I was given these by relatives.


Thanks for complimenting my photos, gentlemen. I have found that I really enjoy this type of photography... :D

17-07-2010, 01:03 PM
Bro, please guide regarding availability of flares in KHI. Want to buy some.

You could get them from toy stores in Delawala !

17-07-2010, 03:17 PM
Bro, please guide regarding availability of flares in KHI. Want to buy some.

You could get them from toy stores in Delawala !

Can you still get them? I once asked a shopkeeper, he said that they did not, due to law enforcement crackdowns...

17-07-2010, 03:35 PM
i used that revolver with flare in 1990 on my uncle's wedding
and got all attentions among Ak47,222,tt,12ga,32cal
Thanks for refrashing old memos.
Thumbs up.

Amjad Ali
17-07-2010, 04:28 PM
dear sir kagefox will you please tell me the model & the name of company of your CAMERA .

Salahuddin Ayubi
17-07-2010, 05:18 PM
Bro, please guide regarding availability of flares in KHI. Want to buy some.

You could get them from toy stores in Delawala !

What's Delawala ?

17-07-2010, 05:36 PM
dear sir kagefox will you please tell me the model & the name of company of your CAMERA .

Sony Alpha A100

@SA: It's a sort of area in Clifton, which has a large number of toy stores... Actually very famous if you want to find a rare toy or something...

Salahuddin Ayubi
17-07-2010, 05:39 PM
@ KF,

Bro, where exactly in Clifton.

17-07-2010, 07:10 PM
KF brother +1 to your Camera and Camera work
really impressive work Dude.

17-07-2010, 08:03 PM
@SA: Well... it's a little hard to explain in words... I'm not too good with places and directions...
I did find a link for you: http://www.paktive.com/Delawala-Shopping-Centre_176SD04.html

@Afzaal: Thanks for appreciating, sir...

18-07-2010, 02:50 AM
@ KF,

Bro, where exactly in Clifton.

The building close to Nandos & CHASE in Clifton !
Opposite , Agha Super Market building...........