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Aquarius
04-07-2010, 02:31 PM
Since yesterday I am a bit confuse in selecting between these two handguns (Glock19 and H&K P2000) for carry purpose and I want all the experts to advise me accordingly.. I have discussed it with few members on phone as well, but still before my final decision, I would like to take a few more advises.. therefore all the experts are requested to give their suggestions please.. I am posting few pictures for comparison.


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Abbas
04-07-2010, 02:53 PM
The HK is the better choice, however I have heard of FTF's with Chinese and POF ammo on the HK. If you can test fire 50/100 Chinese/POF rounds from the HK before buying and they work fine, go for it.

Glock on the other hand needs no testing, will fire any damn thing without issues or needing cleaning.

Abu Al Hawl
04-07-2010, 02:56 PM
Aqu bro, both are best at their own class! if i would have been you i would have bought both :D i had 19 but i wanted to go for more CCable so i bought 26 and then subsequently 17.

Abu Al Hawl
04-07-2010, 02:59 PM
The HK is the better choice, however I have heard of FTF's with Chinese and POF ammo on the HK. If you can test fire 50/100 Chinese/POF rounds from the HK before buying and they work fine, go for it.

Glock on the other hand needs no testing, will fire any damn thing without issues or needing cleaning.

Then Abbas bro, in hidden words your vote goes for glock, yeah why not when glock eats up any thing and doest not even burp:D

KageFox
04-07-2010, 03:22 PM
Both are excellent guns, (as is obvious from the HK and Glock branding) :)

Both have their own charm... though the P2000 definitely has a "unique" value, in my opinion...

Though I feel that the Glock would be better for a snag-free carry...

Sonnenkind
04-07-2010, 04:29 PM
Aquarius bro, the most important input has to come from you :) Both are quality weapons and though its a cliche that 'go with what suits you better' it should be an important deciding factor. If I could ask you:

1- You indicate you'll need one for CC, are there more or less holsters, accessories, carry options for one vs the other?
2- How do you feel about the trigger of one vs the other. I believe you had to manipulate the trigger of your G17 to get it to your liking and isn't a G19 a compact version of G17?
3- On the other hand, in reading on this choice, someone said "In any caliber, Glock will recoil less then H&K due to it's lower bore axis and frame, which means faster follow up shots". Seems just an opinion u would or wouldn't agree with but maybe it is important for compact handguns u intend to carry
4- What is the price comparison between the both and is it of importance here or not? Perhaps not, but still, I would go with the more expensive weapon only if it has concrete additional required benefits
5- So far, all things considered, what is YOUR overall leaning?

Topak
04-07-2010, 05:26 PM
glock for sleek profile.

Aquarius
04-07-2010, 07:39 PM
@Chief. thanks for the tips.
@Abu Al Hawl.
@KageFox.
@Topak.

Brothers thank you all very much for your valuable inputs and tips.

@Sonnenkind.. thanks brother for your input.. as far as accessories are concern, we all know Glock wins handsdown.
Trigger is the least of my concerns because I will be using it for carry/SD.. not for range/target.. so in this case a slightly heavy trigger pull is benificial.. and yes you are absolutely right.. G19 is compact than G17.
About the recoil I haven't fired this H&K yet, but as far as G19 is concern, its recoil is quite satisfactory and manageable. Those members who owns both these guns will definately shed some light on it.
Price of H&K is 15K more than G19 but that makes no diferrence because once you made your mind to go for a +200K handgun then 10 to 15K price range difference is not that significant.

Still waiting for more input from honorable members...... :)

ACHILLES
04-07-2010, 07:47 PM
@Aquarius

Which brands do you have ?

Aquarius
04-07-2010, 07:54 PM
@Aquarius

Which brands do you have ?

Brother please discribe a little more.. didn't get your querry..

ACHILLES
04-07-2010, 08:27 PM
Which handguns do you have?

Aquarius
04-07-2010, 09:24 PM
Which handguns do you have?

First of all you tell me about your unlimited collection.. :D
BTW we missed you alot at the GTG.... ;)

Gunpsycho
04-07-2010, 10:00 PM
@Abbas bhai first of all Welcome Back :)

mhrehman
04-07-2010, 10:02 PM
Bro I am a HK biased, but we are in Pakistan, and Hk is rather rare and so are its accessories, so go for glock 19, I have got one and it kicks butt.

ACHILLES
04-07-2010, 10:21 PM
Which handguns do you have?

First of all you tell me about your unlimited collection.. :D
BTW we missed you alot at the GTG.... ;)

I was all packed up but was stranded by a bully. :)
Missed a lot the whole action. :(

My advice would be go for GLOCK 19.

If you wana go HK than go for .45 USP or 9mm USP (or HK 45 which i have not seen yet).

AK47
05-07-2010, 01:52 AM
@Aquarius bro...............Wish I had been in your dilemma! :D

Anyhow, HK for sure is one desirable thing to have. I cannot say of ammo sensitivity, but there for sure is when Chief has experienced it. The solution then course is to use top quality ammo of U.S brands only, do a bit of practice, say 100 rounds, and then leave the gun for occasional/emergency use only, never mind Rs. 100-300 pr. round, so what? ;)

The choice, however, for me, between these two guns, would ultimately come down to a choice between SA/DA vs Safe Action, and I'm inclined to go with the former, thus HK! :)

Exhibitionshooterhamza
05-07-2010, 03:17 AM
hk

SPAYPANTHER
05-07-2010, 10:58 AM
AFTER see roni kit i think glock

Aquarius
05-07-2010, 12:29 PM
@Aquarius bro...............Wish I had been in your dilemma! :D

:lol: brother thank you very much for your wonderful input, but again I found this HK a little bit bulkier than G19.. you know the same problem which I faced with Browning Pro-9 couple of weeks back. Reliability wise both are equally reliable ... :)

@Denovo Sir.. where are you... :D

@ACHILLES
@mhrehman
@Hamza
@SPAYPANTHER

Brothers thank you very much for your valuable comments.... :)

AK47
05-07-2010, 12:34 PM
@Aquarius bro...............Wish I had been in your dilemma! :D

:lol: brother thank you very much for your wonderful input, but again I found this HK a little bit bulkier than G19.. you know the same problem which I faced with Browning Pro-9 couple of weeks back. Reliability wise both are equally reliable ... :)

@Denovo Sir.. where are you... :D

@ACHILLES
@mhrehman
@Hamza
@SPAYPANTHER

Brothers thank you very much for your valuable comments.... :)

@Aquarius....... Bro, let's both go for a "pen pistol", at least the "bulk" will be gone, keep it in the front pocket! :lol:

Abu Al Hawl
05-07-2010, 12:55 PM
Aqu bro, why dont you go for a best and simple solution G26

Denovo87
05-07-2010, 12:56 PM
Brother Aquarius, you know I gave you all the +'s & -'s on phone ;)

Just to repeat important one's,

1) If you want to add HK in your collection do it by all means, its a must have thing when ever you come arround it.

2) If you want to replace it with Glock 19, you will have to find atleast one bad thing about g19 before kicking it out for HK ;) but on otherhand I am sure you will not find any :)

Aquarius
05-07-2010, 01:26 PM
Aqu bro, why dont you go for a best and simple solution G26

AAH brother.. I have already tried it.. its small for my hands otherwise I would have gone for it with my close eyes..its one hell of a deep concealed carry...... :)

Aquarius
05-07-2010, 01:27 PM
Brother Aquarius, you know I gave you all the +'s & -'s on phone ;)

Just to repeat important one's,

1) If you want to add HK in your collection do it by all means, its a must have thing when ever you come arround it.

2) If you want to replace it with Glock 19, you will have to find atleast one bad thing about g19 before kicking it out for HK ;) but on otherhand I am sure you will not find any :)

Bingo.....

Aquarius
05-07-2010, 01:30 PM
@Aquarius....... Bro, let's both go for a "pen pistol", at least the "bulk" will be gone, keep it in the front pocket! :lol:

:lol: I think I will settle for one in the end.

ACHILLES
05-07-2010, 08:06 PM
@aquarius
WHY I SUGGESTED GLOCK 19.
SPECIFICATIONS
HK 2000

Caliber 9x19 mm
Overall length 6.81 in.
Overall height 5.01 in.
Overall width 1.33 in.
Barrel length 3.66 in.
Sight radius 5.57 in.

Weights
Without magazine 1.36 lb
With empty magazine (13 Cartridges) 1.55 lb.
With empty magazine (16 Cartridges) 1.59 lb.

Magzine capacity available 13, 16 rounds

GLOCK 19

Caliber 9x19 mm
Overall length (slide) 6.85 in.
Height, including magazine 5.00 in.
Width 1.18 in.
Barrel length 4.02 in.
Sight radius 6.02 in. in.

Weights
Weight, without magazine 1.31 lb.
Weight with empty magazine 1.46 lb.


Magzine capacity available 15, 17, 19, 33 rounds


REASONS

You look at the specs of both the guns you will see little difference except for the under line ones.

(1). Glock 19 has longer barrel length than HK 2000 thus more velocity and more energy which is very critical for some types of hollow point rounds to perform as per design.

(2). Glock 19 has got longer sight radius than HK 2000 thus more accuracy.

(3). Glock 19 has got more choice of different capacity magzines than HK 2000.

(4). Due to low BORE AXIS Glock felt recoil is less and better natural point-ability than HK.

(5). Glock have good resale value than HK in this part of the world.

(6). Accessories (u know ur self).


DUE TO ABOVE REASONS I SUGGEST GLOCK 19 RATHER THAN HK 2000.

I have more to tell but i am tired of writing so when we meet till than.......... :D

Aquarius
05-07-2010, 08:55 PM
Thank you so much for such a wonderful input ACHILLES brother.. yesterday I was discussing the same eliments on phone with Denovo Sir, which you have pointed very well regarding accessories, longer sight radius, different magazine capacity choices and last but not the least, thin profiles of Glock19 as compared to HK2000.. thanks once again buddy.... :)

SPAYPANTHER
05-07-2010, 11:53 PM
well define achilles

ACHILLES
06-07-2010, 01:06 AM
well define achilles

Thanks bro.

Sonnenkind
08-07-2010, 05:34 PM
Thank you so much for such a wonderful input ACHILLES brother.. yesterday I was discussing the same eliments on phone with Denovo Sir, which you have pointed very well regarding accessories, longer sight radius, different magazine capacity choices and last but not the least, thin profiles of Glock19 as compared to HK2000.. thanks once again buddy.... :)

Do I see the beginning of a decision being made bro? or has it already been made? :) when is the eye candy coming? :D

Aquarius
08-07-2010, 10:21 PM
Do I see the beginning of a decision being made bro? or has it already been made? :) when is the eye candy coming? :D

Not yet brother... :D