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fahadleghari
06-06-2010, 12:13 AM
Dear pak gunners, i am new to pak guns but keeping weapons for long.
i have been trying to buy one of the 9mm pistols of Khyber Arms Company.
i need ur valuable and experienced advice whether to buy thoses AK47 of MP5 type 9mm pistols or not.
They look extremely well built as far as their pictures over the internet are concerned. moreover i spoke to one
of the Khyber Arms Dealer in lahore on the phone and he assured me about its built and quality.

just requesting you people for guidance.
http://s2.postimage.org/Gq6Ii.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsGq6Ii)

http://s2.postimage.org/GqbHA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsGqbHA)

SAJJAD ALI
06-06-2010, 03:37 AM
Welcome fahad on Pakguns.i bought this pistol just 3 months later.the pistol is khyber arms made.i paid 12k for this bought it from Dera Allah Yaar (Balouchistan).cal. is 7.62x25(TT ammo).mag Cap is 28.i fired more than 100 rounds in it without any FTF or FTE.
http://s1.postimage.org/OJR8J.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxOJR8J)
http://s4.postimage.org/6HQyJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV6HQyJ)

Dr Hanif Malik
06-06-2010, 07:05 AM
if these type pistol are bulid by some good gunsmith,they work properly,but most these type guns are not good in practically:)

SPAYPANTHER
06-06-2010, 10:59 AM
+1 DR HANIF if some one import these type of pistol in .30 they will rule

qaiser
06-06-2010, 02:07 PM
AOA ...
technically speaking its S.M.G...it cant be carried on 30 bore handgun licence..there is some diff B/w a handgun and this type of machine pistol

Dr Zakir
06-06-2010, 02:21 PM
these are just for fun . not for SD or HD . and reliabilty will vary from piece to piece

Pistol
06-06-2010, 04:06 PM
AOA ...
technically speaking its S.M.G...it cant be carried on 30 bore handgun licence..there is some diff B/w a handgun and this type of machine pistol

I thought these are semi-auto and are categorized as pistols. Therefore, they can be kept on NPB license.

SPAYPANTHER
06-06-2010, 06:41 PM
I thought these are semi-auto and are categorized as pistols. Therefore, they can be kept on NPB license.

you are 100% right bro

KageFox
06-06-2010, 06:56 PM
moreover i spoke to one of the Khyber Arms Dealer in lahore on the phone and he assured me about its built and quality.

Obviously he did, he's earning from the sale, especially if he is one of the few Khyber Arms dealers in the area.

These weapons usually vary in built, quality and reliability. Buying one for fun would be okay, as Dr Zakir suggested, but relying upon one for home/self defence would be pretty foolhardy.

Topak
06-06-2010, 07:28 PM
AOA ...
technically speaking its S.M.G...it cant be carried on 30 bore handgun licence..there is some diff B/w a handgun and this type of machine pistol

I thought these are semi-auto and are categorized as pistols. Therefore, they can be kept on NPB license.
i did lost the book of notifications and rules about guns shapes about 8 years ago. it was clearly written in it that pistols with fore grip and butt-stock are not allowed...
but i dont know the current policy about them.
some on told me that according to pure rules laid down...semi auto shot guns are also PB.
i did asked the Arms branch,the most senior guy also told me the same story...but his last sentence was...
WAKEEL SAHIB..... YAHAN SUB CHALTA HAI.

SAJJAD ALI
06-06-2010, 07:38 PM
Welcome fahad on Pakguns.i bought this pistol just 3 months later.the pistol is khyber arms made.i paid 12k for this bought it from Dera Allah Yaar (Balouchistan).cal. is 7.62x25(TT ammo).mag Cap is 28.i fired more than 100 rounds in it without any FTF or FTE.
http://s1.postimage.org/OJR8J.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxOJR8J)
http://s4.postimage.org/6HQyJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV6HQyJ)

sajjadbhai if this is semiauto its great if auto is ban btw looking great
This gun is Semi-auto .30 cal

wasifali89
06-06-2010, 09:40 PM
AOA ...
technically speaking its S.M.G...it cant be carried on 30 bore handgun licence..there is some diff B/w a handgun and this type of machine pistol

I thought these are semi-auto and are categorized as pistols. Therefore, they can be kept on NPB license.
i did lost the book of notifications and rules about guns shapes about 8 years ago. it was clearly written in it that pistols with fore grip and butt-stock are not allowed...
but i dont know the current policy about them.
some on told me that according to pure rules laid down...semi auto shot guns are also PB.
i did asked the Arms branch,the most senior guy also told me the same story...but his last sentence was...
WAKEEL SAHIB..... YAHAN SUB CHALTA HAI.


strange to hear abt semi auto 12 guages

cooldragon
07-06-2010, 12:10 AM
Are these gas operated like the kalashnikov or do they work on the simple blowback mechanism ?

Sparticas
07-06-2010, 09:44 AM
Are these gas operated like the kalashnikov or do they work on the simple blowback mechanism ?


Bro if you are asking about these pistols they are simple blowback mechanism,

and Dr sahib and Kagefox very rightly pointed out that the performance vary piece to piece, if they don't then they can be compared with a good quality handgun.

Sparticas
07-06-2010, 09:48 AM
AOA ...
technically speaking its S.M.G...it cant be carried on 30 bore handgun licence..there is some diff B/w a handgun and this type of machine pistol

I thought these are semi-auto and are categorized as pistols. Therefore, they can be kept on NPB license.
i did lost the book of notifications and rules about guns shapes about 8 years ago. it was clearly written in it that pistols with fore grip and butt-stock are not allowed...
but i dont know the current policy about them.
some on told me that according to pure rules laid down...semi auto shot guns are also PB.
i did asked the Arms branch,the most senior guy also told me the same story...but his last sentence was...
WAKEEL SAHIB..... YAHAN SUB CHALTA HAI.

Jee Wakeel sahib he was very right but We all know that YAHAN SUB CHALTA HAI Sirf USS ka JO CHALA SAKAY,
it is very much advised NOT TO TAKE CHANCES ... :)

SPAYPANTHER
07-06-2010, 10:22 AM
these pistols are GAS OPRATED and have same mechanisum of AK47...
just atou system is disable in these pistols

Jillanik
07-06-2010, 12:28 PM
Reliability of these arms is a big ??????????????????????.

Topak
07-06-2010, 01:00 PM
have checked lot of piece in hand..(not fired) they looks crap.poor quality metal and machanisim.barrel are made of very bad quality rods.
in first look they seem very interesting and beautiful,but actually they not even worth of penny.
you can have made them on order for fun shooting.but never buy these from shops.

SPAYPANTHER
07-06-2010, 11:53 PM
+1 topak i am 100% agree with you...

really the seem very interesting and beautiful :) ,but when you use them...:(:(:(:(:(

Capt Ali
08-06-2010, 01:28 AM
helloto every body i just joined this site i am very happy that we have such a sit great work Abbas

cooldragon
08-06-2010, 02:27 AM
greetings captain , do introduce yourself at the introductions thread ,

Txshooter
08-06-2010, 02:39 AM
Welcome fahad on Pakguns.i bought this pistol just 3 months later.the pistol is khyber arms made.i paid 12k for this bought it from Dera Allah Yaar (Balouchistan).cal. is 7.62x25(TT ammo).mag Cap is 28.i fired more than 100 rounds in it without any FTF or FTE.
http://s1.postimage.org/OJR8J.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxOJR8J)
http://s4.postimage.org/6HQyJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV6HQyJ)

Nice gun bro. but please keep finger off trigger until you're ready to shoot. safety first!!:)

Engineeer
08-06-2010, 12:37 PM
Welcome fahad on Pakguns.i bought this pistol just 3 months later.the pistol is khyber arms made.i paid 12k for this bought it from Dera Allah Yaar (Balouchistan).cal. is 7.62x25(TT ammo).mag Cap is 28.i fired more than 100 rounds in it without any FTF or FTE.
http://s1.postimage.org/OJR8J.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxOJR8J)
http://s4.postimage.org/6HQyJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV6HQyJ)

Nice gun bro. but please keep finger off trigger until you're ready to shoot. safety first!!:)
yes most of bros r right its not reliable machine i am have experienced so wont ask any1 2 go 4 it.

fahadleghari
11-06-2010, 01:11 AM
people i guess if these handguns are gas operated and build from good quality materials, they are woth buying.
atleast i should give it a try, they look awesome in pics as posted by Sajjad bhai.
i actually wanted to have another weapon to carry with me in car as i use to travel mostly in night for long distances.
will this be a good gun for personal protection?

Salahuddin Ayubi
11-06-2010, 10:13 AM
will this be a good gun for personal protection?

NO. NOT AT ALL.

Please do not comprise on quality when it comes to protecting your life. Go for a good imported, tested and proven weapon for this purpose.

Tiger Roars
03-02-2011, 07:40 PM
Not good;;; unreliable mechanism inside,, only look is attractive

Tiger Roars
03-02-2011, 07:42 PM
helloto every body i just joined this site i am very happy that we have such a sit great work Abbas

Welcome Capt Ali.

Enigmatic Desires
04-02-2011, 01:38 AM
Sajjad bhai. It Is a really nice ceiling why would U want to poke holes in it. U hav a magazine in place an your finger firmly on the trigger!!!

shak
04-02-2011, 04:23 AM
These guns only come in .30 AFAIK. I bought one a few months back for fun. After multiple FTE/FTF and mag seating problems I decided it was not worth carrying or keeping.

Do not buy unless you're a gunsmith :)

TT-33
04-02-2011, 08:07 AM
Dear All can any body share which Khyber Arms has good 9mm Pistol...plz share with pics if some body has.

HussainAli
04-02-2011, 11:06 AM
Dear All,

Regarding the Khyber Arms, you may find many video's regarding this company on this YouTube link;

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=khyber+arms+company&aq=1sx (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=khyber+arms+company&aq=1sx)

About the thread I myself is a big fan of such shape, in fact last evening I visited my dealer in KHI, and showed me few new models of .30 Caliber, shapes was like AK 47 original and a very well craft weapon, I asked about the legal issues of this shape, and accordingly to them any weapon upon to 6" of barrel and in semi-Auto within the NPB caliber is allowed of course there are auto modes are also available but I am interested in semi-auto, I am not sure about 28 Bullets maz ? is this allowed as NPB pistol or not.
But to my understanding any weapon and my awareness to LAW, it can be translated as Pistol and pistol of .30 is allowed as NPB.
Yes some members are right about the reliability of such weapon, but again if you think you are a target to some personal enemy then you need an imported reliable weapon but if you are into HD practice or target practice its ok.

I would request other member to share some experience who has owned such pistols, but bottom line I may go for it today even for few months as the pieces I check were far much better and produced on the plant shown in the YouTube clips .....................Pakistan Zindabad ..............

Regards

shak
05-02-2011, 12:48 AM
Here is a link to Khyber Arms website. After browsing it I recall I also bought a semi auto shotgun made by them in G3 shape. It split in two first day after firing off 20 cartridges. Only good thing about that experience was that the dealer replaced it free of charge and I gave it away.

http://www.khyberarms.co.cc/

HussainAli
13-02-2011, 12:55 AM
Dear Members,

Any input regarding the Post #31 please...........

HussainAli
15-02-2011, 04:44 PM
Dear Members,

Any input regarding the Post #31 please...........

a55kika
15-02-2011, 07:46 PM
I've seen a crazy guy shooting 1 of those on new years occasion...
He was shooting it flawlessly on full auto(no further comments on the weapons selective fire capability as it is PB)...He replaced around 10 14-round magazines and not even a single misfire...
I'm not at all intending to promote this weapon or that guys crazy act...But It did work well...
A Legit version of this weapon(if there is any :S ) might come in handy...I wouldn't advice it for SD but damn it looks like fun :)
In my opinion,A gun designed with the frame of an AK might also share its qualities...PLUS it seems to be operated on a simple blowback mechanism which MIGHT reduce the chances of any FTF since the mechanism is relatively simple compared to the Gas-piston mechanism...And this in turn would require less maintenance...
With all that being said I would STILL advice all its users out there to wear bike helmets,thick gloves and a Bigg arse coat before shooting...just in case...

HussainAli
15-02-2011, 09:46 PM
Dear a55Kika Bro, I agree with you the Gun looks FUn, infact its for HD and not SD, fortunatily or unfortunatily I today only got one, Its dame Replica image original AK_47 design even the powder coating in black, but yes I bought a NON-Auto version of it just to be on legal side.
I did ask my dealer about its working mechansim, he says its just like a hand gun, and not a gas piston one. Its fieldstrip just like the original once, man its something real fun will bring home after the all legal entires on my Lic and will post the review after my first encounter with it on saterday at Firing range.

Regards

Aquarius
16-02-2011, 12:05 AM
I have tried all of their products except their single & double barrel shotguns.. don't waste your hard earned money on it.

Aquarius
16-02-2011, 12:09 AM
Their latest model Baretta 92fs clone (not the previous one) which they claim to perform as good as original is a piece of S..t.

a55kika
16-02-2011, 12:27 PM
It certainly looks good and to be honest I'm thinking of getting it too...The price range is reasonable 25k here in KHI(12-15k in Lahore as I heard) and its also available in 9mm...It can be good for HD

Pakistani101
16-02-2011, 02:20 PM
It certainly looks good and to be honest I'm thinking of getting it too...The price range is reasonable 25k here in KHI(12-15k in Lahore as I heard) and its also available in 9mm...It can be good for HD
Can't you read !!!!!!!!!!! Its a POS

Ahmad82
26-08-2013, 12:05 PM
24105
Please any one can share the price of this .30 & 9mm?

Ahmad82
26-08-2013, 12:07 PM
PLZ somebody share the Price?
Dear pak gunners, i am new to pak guns but keeping weapons for long.
i have been trying to buy one of the 9mm pistols of Khyber Arms Company.
i need ur valuable and experienced advice whether to buy thoses AK47 of MP5 type 9mm pistols or not.
They look extremely well built as far as their pictures over the internet are concerned. moreover i spoke to one
of the Khyber Arms Dealer in lahore on the phone and he assured me about its built and quality.

just requesting you people for guidance.
http://s2.postimage.org/Gq6Ii.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsGq6Ii)

http://s2.postimage.org/GqbHA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsGqbHA)

Enigmatic Desires
26-08-2013, 03:50 PM
Around 12 to 20k or so depending on quality and location.

http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?11935-MP5-in-30bore-review

Ahmad82
26-08-2013, 03:57 PM
Thanks Bro

sadatpk
26-08-2013, 10:47 PM
it is surely b/w 12 to 20 but in this price one will purchase only a gun to be hanged on wall,it is useless

Cool Hunter
27-08-2013, 11:34 AM
hummm I could not understand why sikandar pay 100k for it?

Enigmatic Desires
27-08-2013, 01:00 PM
hummm I could not understand why sikandar pay 100k for it?

Thats cause he was crazy :D

380ACP
27-08-2013, 06:29 PM
Sikandar paid 100k for these guns and DAK ammo ? You guys sure about it ?

s.jawad
27-08-2013, 08:11 PM
it is surely b/w 12 to 20 but in this price one will purchase only a gun to be hanged on wall,it is useless

+1 Shah Jee well explained.
REGARDS

s.jawad
27-08-2013, 08:16 PM
Sikandar paid 100k for these guns and DAK ammo ? You guys sure about it ?

Brother if he paid 100k then i am sure these 100k are not for guns are ammo but maybe he paid these.......................................
I think you all better know..............................
REGARDS

Enigmatic Desires
28-08-2013, 11:49 AM
Or may be there are no conspiracy theories! And the guy just went postal!