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Ka_Khan
24-03-2010, 11:51 PM
During the 'window shopping' with PakGunners we came across this Pistol.We didnt gave much importance but later when i searched i was surprised at its performance.

http://s1.postimage.org/ttyj0.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxttyj0)

Some info about KAHR...
Kahr Arms, an innovative firearms manufacturer, was founded on fifteen years of manufacturing service in precision metalworking industries. Kahr's corporate headquarters are located in Blauvelt, New York. Production and assembly operations are located in Worcester, Massachusetts, in the region commonly known as "Gun Valley."
The Kahr action is a Browning locked-breech design and has a striker-operated firing pin with a passive firing pin safety. It is a true hammerless action. When the trigger is pulled, the trigger bar begins to rotate the cocking cam. Having two lobes, the cocking cam simultaneously begins to draw the striker to the rear, compressing the spring behind it, while depressing and therefore deactivating the firing pin block. At the end of the trigger's travel, the lobe contacting the striker slips off the striker and releases it, the other lobe has now completely depressed the firing pin block and permits the striker to travel forward and strike the primer. This single piece takes the place of more complicated and fragile designs employed in other pistols. It is similar in principle, though very different in execution, to the design on Glocks. It also allows the firing pin block to be located further to the rear of the slide and therefore further from possible contamination from combustion gases and fouling. For this innovation, Justin Moon was awarded one of the five patents he possesses on the Kahr pistol. This system is employed on all Kahr pistols regardless of frame material, size or caliber.
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You will be surprised to know that Kahr pistols were used in these movies.
KAHR K9
"Baywatch"
"Boston Public"
"CSI"
"Domestic Disturbance"
"Double Take"
"Face/Off"
"Gigli"
"The Invisible Man"
"K-Pax"
"Matchstick Men"
"Nash Bridges"
"NYPD Blue"
"Profiler"
"The Replacement Killers"
"The Mexican"
"US Marshals"

Ka_Khan
24-03-2010, 11:55 PM
These are the Pics we took..
Let us know its availability and price.We were didnt enquired about the price as we were too busy with other stuff !

http://s4.postimage.org/Uyhh9.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVUyhh9)

http://s4.postimage.org/Uymgr.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVUymgr)

http://s4.postimage.org/UyoLA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVUyoLA)

http://s4.postimage.org/UyrfJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVUyrfJ)

http://s4.postimage.org/Uywf0.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVUywf0)

Ahsanfurqan
25-03-2010, 12:18 AM
very nice......nd so much resemblence with walther p99....wts the market price sir???

Pashasahab
25-03-2010, 01:34 AM
hw much was the asking price for this beauty?

Faheem
25-03-2010, 06:10 AM
Ka_Khan brother thats really marvelous handgun. Please try to get the price of mentioned handgun with availability.

Aquarius
25-03-2010, 06:42 AM
Yes Ka_Khan bro: I have seen this beauty quite few days back... at first I thought its Walther P99... but the dealer said its Kahr 9mm, so I told him to show it. Very nice piece indeed... The dealer also told me that now its made in Turkey as well........ :)

farishtay
25-03-2010, 11:35 AM
beautiful, price n shop where available

Rotorcrafts
25-03-2010, 03:55 PM
I am a bit confused, I cant find this particular model any where on there website.

grin313
25-03-2010, 07:37 PM
I am a bit confused, I cant find this particular model any where on there website.
ya thats rite bro. the company n manufacturers are somewat new n one cannot find too much info on their models. i elsewhere mentioned its one particular model but was stop by mod to discuss it any further due to forum rules (an over-sight at my part). other wise i hav heard some good stuff regarding their models. a friend of mine owns one and he is really happy with it. its market price is yet to be finalized. but for now (wat i hav heard - not updated on current rates) its costing under 100K.

Ilyas
25-03-2010, 08:56 PM
Saw it few weeks ago... I was actually very impatient to get to the shop and check it out, after hearing on the phone that Kahr was available. But once I got there and saw it, I wasn't impressed at all. It's not the American made Kahr but just another Turkish pistol with not very nice finish and comes with fire select option. I think it resembles Akdal Ghost and the finishing quality shows as if both are manufactured by the same people.

MIdreesTaj
25-03-2010, 09:20 PM
nice share Ka_Khan bro..
Kahr and Keltec sub compacts have been favorite medium priced pistols in US market.

Ka_Khan
25-03-2010, 11:32 PM
Confused after reading your views.I think its not Turkish as Made in USA is marked on it.Price is below 100K that is also confusing as in Lahore and Karachi it is quoted above 170K.One probability....these found their way through Afghanistan.

Starfish
26-03-2010, 08:45 AM
Confused after reading your views.I think its not Turkish as Made in USA is marked on it.Price is below 100K that is also confusing as in Lahore and Karachi it is quoted above 170K.One probability....these found their way through Afghanistan.
Even if it found its way through afghanistan, it should easily find its way to lahore and khi for may be 80 or 85k.
You are right sir, there is major confusion about this pistol. I guess we will have to wait till someone actually gets it. :)

Aquarius
26-03-2010, 10:22 AM
Today I called the dealer...... asking price 70K.... could be dropped to 65K after bargaining......... :)

Aquarius
26-03-2010, 10:25 AM
Confused after reading your views.I think its not Turkish as Made in USA is marked on it.Price is below 100K that is also confusing as in Lahore and Karachi it is quoted above 170K.One probability....these found their way through Afghanistan.

Yes Ka_Khan bro:Made in USA is marked on it, but the dealer told me that its made in Turkey....... :)

Ka_Khan
26-03-2010, 03:32 PM
Yes Ka_Khan bro:Made in USA is marked on it, but the dealer told me that its made in Turkey....... :)
Great ! So what you say about pieces available around 200K in Lahore and Karachi?

Aquarius
26-03-2010, 06:54 PM
Yes Ka_Khan bro:Made in USA is marked on it, but the dealer told me that its made in Turkey....... :)
Great ! So what you say about pieces available around 200K in Lahore and Karachi?

Anybody knows its price in Lahore and Karachi...?

grin313
26-03-2010, 09:53 PM
the one i m talking about is priced at 80k with fire select mode. it is totally new in the country (ya in country and not in the market because someone had them brought in through own resources - thereby increasing the probability of routing through Afghanistan). its price was likely to jump once hitting the local markets. dont know about it now.

Ilyas
26-03-2010, 11:58 PM
@grin313... Bro if it's available in Peshawar and in Islamabad, it means it's in the market. Though these might be
in little number, but believe me if it's the same gun KK posted, it's fate will not be much different than the Akdal Ghost.

Aquarius
27-03-2010, 12:09 AM
@grin313... Bro if it's available in Peshawar and in Islamabad, it means it's in the market. Though these might be
in little number, but believe me if it's the same gun KK posted, it's fate will not be much different than the Akdal Ghost.

Now I am really confused...It could be another Turkish gun with the USA stamp on it....

Ilyas
27-03-2010, 12:23 AM
@Aquarius... Yes Doc, in my opinion it is the case. When you simply look at the gun and the USA related markings on it, you'll observe that it has nothing to do either with the original Kahr or USA.


I am a bit confused, I cant find this particular model any where on there website.

I haven't checked it myself, but Rotorcrafts couldn't find it on Kahr's website.

Ka_Khan
27-03-2010, 03:26 PM
Checked from various sources....its origional !
The fact that its not on their site.....its not for civillians...it is marked with 'Only for Law inforcement agencies'.Turkish made guns never have 'made in USA' stamp.

Aquarius
27-03-2010, 03:34 PM
Checked from various sources....its origional !
The fact that its not on their site.....its not for civillians...it is marked with 'Only for Law inforcement agencies'.Turkish made guns never have 'made in USA' stamp.

And whats the price....?

Rotorcrafts
27-03-2010, 08:04 PM
Well we have a pretty confusing situation in front of us.

I am in no way convinced that this is an original kahr, no matter what is written on it. Compare the above photos with these ones, they are strikingly similar.

Akdal ghost.

http://s3.postimage.org/o4pxi.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqo4pxi)

http://s3.postimage.org/o4uwA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqo4uwA)

Ka_Khan
27-03-2010, 09:24 PM
@Aquarius he was asking 85K but i am sure around 75 will be settled.

Ilyas
27-03-2010, 10:18 PM
...The fact that its not on their site.....its not for civillians...it is marked with 'Only for Law inforcement agencies'.Turkish made guns never have 'made in USA' stamp.


As far as I know, usually all firearm manufacturers engaged in making firearms for military/law enforcement as well as Civilian market, provide details of their complete production range and clearly mention it on their website, if the products are meant for civilian or military sales.

For those who are interested in buying these guns, I would suggest contacting the sales support of KAHR for learning about the authenticity of these guns. Here is the link to KAHR's support http://www.kahr.com/contact.html

Ka_Khan
27-03-2010, 11:19 PM
Very good Ilyas this will end the confusion.

Rotorcrafts
29-03-2010, 02:05 AM
I already emailed them, lets see if they reply or not.

Saleemullahkhan
29-03-2010, 10:29 AM
101% confirmed its a Turkish pistol with USA stamp. They are sold in bulk for 50k each, current asking price 60k. There is slidding auto switch on the back more a like Glock but its quite innoticeable. It is also 101% confirmed that one of them blown up in pieces during test fire.

Aquarius
29-03-2010, 10:57 AM
Excellent information Saleemullahkhan bro..... now the confusion is really ended...... :)

afridiaf
29-03-2010, 06:25 PM
kahr is available at asia arms peshawar at 72000/

Glockcohlic
29-03-2010, 11:12 PM
Its Turkish made, checked it a month ago and was not impressed with the quality and finish. Quality & the finish is same like Akdal Ghost.

Denovo87
29-03-2010, 11:27 PM
101% confirmed its a Turkish pistol with USA stamp. They are sold in bulk for 50k each, current asking price 60k. There is slidding auto switch on the back more a like Glock but its quite innoticeable. It is also 101% confirmed that one of them blown up in pieces during test fire.


So Turkey started doing DO NUMBREE with Pakistani brothers :(

Faheem
29-03-2010, 11:29 PM
Glockcohlic brother really nice to see you here after long time. Brother please inform us that its performance same like Akdal Ghost ? or its better than Akdal Ghost ? because here mostly members dont like Akdal Ghost due to its performance....

As you mentioned in your last post that its purely Turkish handgun so why does it price higher than Stouger couger or other Turkish handguns.....

Your comments will be very very valueable for us........ because we know that you are the true collector of handguns.....

Glockcohlic
29-03-2010, 11:49 PM
Thanks Faheem.

Turkish Kahr (clone) is also a select fire, this gun was offered to me at 65K. Upon looks it looked ok but when I disassembled the gun, the quality of internal parts including barrel doesn't looked durable.

I have seen Akdal Ghost, the quality of slide, barrel, frame in particular and the internal parts are not up to the basic standards, therefore I passed on to both the guns.

As per Cougar goes, the quality, finish and durability speaks for it self soon you hold the gun in your hands. :)

Faheem
29-03-2010, 11:55 PM
Glockcohlic sir may I contact you on email if you dont have any problem ? I want your valueable advise regarding handgun for purchasing point of view....

Glockcohlic
30-03-2010, 12:04 AM
Sure Faheem, you can contact via e-mail, I will be glad if I can be of some help.

Faheem
30-03-2010, 12:07 AM
Thank you so much. My email addresses are.

*******@hotmail.com
********@gulahmed.com

Glockcohlic
30-03-2010, 12:18 AM
I hv sent U an e-mail, U can reply me and I will get back to U tomorrow, as I am about to sign off.

Faheem
30-03-2010, 12:19 AM
Yes Sir I have received your email. Inshallah tomorrow from office I will email you in detail.... and thanks again for your cooperation :)

grin313
31-03-2010, 12:24 AM
so the gun is not durable or trustable. my friend had spoken very high of it. and he almost had me to buy it as well.

Faheem
31-03-2010, 07:03 AM
grin313 brother yes as you can read the previous posts of our seniors, mentioned handgun is not a extreamily perfect. it is better to you buy PT99 or PT92 other wise Taurus 809 E is a better option :)