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Kakar
22-03-2010, 02:50 AM
This Brno 7mm bolt action rifle made in Czechoslovakia was bought NIB in 1974. All the Mauser rifles are built like tanks and they can take a lot of abuse. This 7mm is an absolute joy to shoot and I am very comfortable with it as compared to its substitute calibers. It has an inner magazine of 5 rounds with thumb safety. Comes with a very light adjustable trigger for better accuracy. I don't know why the 7mm always gets described as a weaker caliber. It has almost the power of a 270 with heavier and wider bullets, which amount to about the same killing power. Easy to mount any kind of scope on it, is light weight with a 23-1/2 inch barrel, 43 inch overall length. The Brno has excellent sights which has helped me shoot running bores at 70+ yards without scope. It has a smooth recoil.

I have read many reviews in Pakistan that the 7mm has a bullet drop problem beyond 300metres. To this I always ask people about how many animals have they shot beyond that range and then none is the answer. The 300 meters drop problem also occurs when the bullet used exceeds 150 grains other wise it has a flat hit at 500 meters with less than 150 grain bullets. Majority of the animals like wild bore, deer, hog deer and others are shot in our part of the world at much closer distances than 300 meters. So why think of this beautiful caliber as rubbish and go for 243 or 270.

The 7x57 (7mm) Mauser is considered a weak caliber these days, but W.D.M. Bell, using 175 grain solids, killed hundreds of elephants with the caliber in his time.


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At close ranges the 7mm is much powerful than its competitors. I have shot many wild bores with my 7mm from 20 meters to 150 meters+ and you would be surprised to know that the bore dosen’t move from the impact place even if it takes a hit in the back with a 7mm bullet. Though the bore has to be finished later with a pistol but what I am trying to say is that the power of this caliber gives you the liberty of hitting any body part and not just the vital organs. In the picture below, the second bore from the left was shot with a 7mm bullet in the back and it could not move from that place as the bones of that area were smashed with the power of this bullet.


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Ballistic performance

Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
140 gr (9.1 g) 2,800 ft/s (850 m/s) 2,437 ft•lbf

150 gr (9.7 g) 2,650 ft/s (810 m/s) 2,339 ft•lbf


7mm bullet size comparison with .22lr

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Keeping in view its price of around 40k and the easy availability of the bullets, I would suggest it as an excellent buy.

Dr Hanif Malik
22-03-2010, 06:46 AM
@kakar sahib very good review on brno,as you are practical shooter and hunter what is your record,long distance at hunt,any boar or deer etc?:)

Salahuddin Ayubi
22-03-2010, 10:32 AM
@Kakar,

Nice writeup.

Was a pleasure meeting you yesterday and thanks for the hospitality.

Aquarius
22-03-2010, 11:29 AM
@Kakar: Very nice reveiw indeed.... Brno 7mm rifle is excellent... is that ZKK 600..? I have one gifted by my father & its lovely indeed.... :)

Kakar
22-03-2010, 02:14 PM
Thanks Dr. Hanif.. shot a deer in Thar desert at about 175 yards and a wild bore at almost the same distance...

@ Salahuddin Sb.. the pleasure was all mine.. and thank you again for being so kind enough to deliver it at my place.

Thanks Aquarius.. yes it is the same indeed with a slight difference in the front sight. The one you have might have a circled front sight...mine has a pointer.

Aamar
22-03-2010, 02:21 PM
Nice :-)

Aquarius
22-03-2010, 02:33 PM
@Kakar:Bro the front sight is exactly the same (pointer)as yours rifle, but it has a detachable cover over it as well........ :)

ChocTalpur
23-03-2010, 01:53 AM
@kakar. Brother could you tell me some thing about your rifle's Scope, and specially its mounts ?

Regards.

Kakar
23-03-2010, 02:44 AM
@ Aquarius.. the detachable front is the circled front i am talking about.... remove the front cover as that will allow you to shoot with much better accuracy (without scope).

@ ChocTalpur.. bushnell scope with leupold mounts. .....( mounts in the pics are not leupold ) these mounts cost 30k+ so i attach them only when required. I guess you would understand why...

Gangster
23-03-2010, 03:34 AM
Very nice review Kakar sb, would appreciate a little detail on the Scope that you mounted on it.

ChocTalpur
24-03-2010, 01:33 AM
hmm, i can understand kakar sab.

Viking
28-03-2010, 06:54 PM
AOA to all, kakar brother since 2 month i m searching on rifle bores like .243 .270 7mm 7mm mag n 30-06 . n know im confuse between 7mm meg n 30-06 ,sir i want to know about ammo n rifle(BRNO) availability n price .sir if you knw any thing so plz plz tell me .mai app ka bohot mashkor honga .
THANKS

Kakar
29-03-2010, 02:17 PM
bro viking.. your query is answered in the topic WTB: Brno 7x57

Ammo is easily available at every shop for appox Rs: 220/bullet ( Winchester )

Looking at the price difference btw 30 06 and 7mm rifle and the practical use of the gun (if you are not into hunting markhor or marcopolo sheep kind of animals ) I would definitely go for 7mm

Viking
29-03-2010, 07:27 PM
bro i m not asking about 7mm remington ,sir jee i ask k, want to know about ammo n rifle(BRNO) availability n prices of 7mm remington MAGNUM and 30-06 sprg

Shano Shah
29-03-2010, 10:22 PM
Kakar Sb


the velocities you mentioned are bit higher.

145g winchester bullets mean velocity is 2575 ft/s

139g serb bullets mean velocity is 2500 ft/s

The rifle i used were rem. 700BDL, Brno and BSA

Kakar
29-03-2010, 10:52 PM
@ viking bro.. sorry, can't be of much help with that.

Kakar
29-03-2010, 11:23 PM
Shano Shah sb.. I am talking about muzzle velocity and not muzzle energy.. you must be talking about the latter which is lower.

Secondly different rifles produce different velocities with same loads. It is very rare that they produce the same.

On average, a 7x57 produces 2750/fps muzzle velocity and 2450 ft/lb.

Skeeter60
29-03-2010, 11:26 PM
@ Shano Shah
Very nice to see an experienced hunter and hand loader back into action at Pack guns. Let us see you more often.

Shano Shah
31-03-2010, 01:37 AM
Kakar Sb,

The chronograph was placed at 10 ft from the muzzle. The mean velocities i wrote are based on 3 shot group from each rifle . I have not seen a lighter bullet than 139g (factory load) in cal. 7x57. Lighter bullets in 7X57 can reach nearly 3000ft/s by experience hand loader . Advertised velocities are based on test rifles .

I must say you are very lucky to get 2750 ft/s on average from Factory load.

Skeeter60
31-03-2010, 09:11 AM
No two rifles give the same velocity with any one cartridge. Even rifles of the same company give different velocities. The Ammo companies advertise velocities from their test barrels. How ever the difference is generally not larger than 5 % with the exception of some extreme cases.

Kakar
31-03-2010, 11:58 AM
Sir, you win I lose ... end of story.

Skeeter60
31-03-2010, 12:12 PM
Sir, you win I lose ... end of story.

@Kakar

I thought I supported your view!

Kakar
31-03-2010, 12:40 PM
Skeeter sahab.. I know that you supported my view and it is very nice of you... thank you

The message was for Shano Shah sahab..

Dr Hanif Malik
31-03-2010, 08:44 PM
@kakar bahi very good we should learn more from experience shooter and hunters:)

Shano Shah
31-03-2010, 09:11 PM
kakar Sb

i am only sharing my experience with the forum, i totally agree with your main post except the velocities in my opinion.

please understand its not winning or losing.

Birdshooter007
08-04-2012, 12:55 AM
Nice review.... I now have a strong desire to own a BRNO 7mm too :p.

Ameer
08-04-2012, 09:51 AM
Good review

Ahmad82
26-07-2012, 06:40 PM
what is best 7mm Maximum range rifle in Pakistan and price and on the other hand Pakistan made semi auto price also?some body know i ma making 7mm license with 15K from Gujranwala

Enigmatic Desires
27-07-2012, 01:11 AM
what is best 7mm Maximum range rifle in Pakistan and price and on the other hand Pakistan made semi auto price also?some body know i ma making 7mm license with 15K from Gujranwala

oh U told some1 u are making a a license for 15k at Gujranwala? Was it supposed to be.. like u know... a secret?

And if u made an NPB for a semi-auto 7mm then i guess it should remain a secret

Ahmad82
28-07-2012, 05:33 PM
ED Bro i did,nt get u really? what u want to say if u give me ur No i can call u?
oh U told some1 u are making a a license for 15k at Gujranwala? Was it supposed to be.. like u know... a secret?

And if u made an NPB for a semi-auto 7mm then i guess it should remain a secret

Ahmad82
28-07-2012, 05:41 PM
ONE Dealer from Multan M&S (V.V COOPERATIVE)told me that good Brono price is 145K and it can shoot easily on more then 1km and bullet can run up to 3km Seniors are agree with this or its not true in REAL??????????
7mm BULLET IS @200 TO 350
SCOPE FROM DUBAI 7000Rs

Atif Shuja
11-10-2012, 07:25 PM
Price of 7mm brno indicated by you seems to be too high. it should be around 80,000 to 100,000. as far as the range concerns, it depends how you sight in your scope with your required shooting range. But frankly speaking, 7x57 bullet drops too much so as per my information it can be effective from 200-300 yards range. If you talk about 7mm mag even than 1km to 3km would not be possible.

Avais
11-10-2012, 08:37 PM
ONE Dealer from Multan M&S (V.V COOPERATIVE)told me that good Brono price is 145K and it can shoot easily on more then 1km and bullet can run up to 3km Seniors are agree with this or its not true in REAL??????????
7mm BULLET IS @200 TO 350
SCOPE FROM DUBAI 7000Rs
If the rifle is NIB should not be more than 90K and in case of second hand from 40K to 60K depending upon the condition.
As far as achieve able effective range is concerned, 300 yards is the most but yet it requires some very accurate scope at least Leupold. The scope mentioned in yr mail 7K? must be the Chinese made for the air guns.