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MIdreesTaj
06-03-2010, 11:33 PM
I purchased it for a friend today @ 18k. Showcase tag was 23k.
Fired 20 rounds, 10 from each mag. No malfunctions and so was expected in clone of this quality.

I checked it after a thorough cleaning(kerosene oil) and lubing(Mobil 1) and found out few good things:
- It Weighs like the original..
- Finish is also closest to that of Bruniton
- Decocking lever is well built and works tight
- Smoothest thing on it was the action. Silk smooth... A+
- Trigger has a free slack in SA half the way about 1cm, then breaks with gritty action of about .25cm. Hope it improves after it breaks in. DA is quite heavy.
- Barrel alignment was great and straight..
- Barrel showed almost no movement at the muzzle.. A+
- Barrel sits tight and pendullums on the locking block in (dis-assembled slide and removed recoil spring assembly) with good balance...
- Sights were good and visible..
- Slide to frame fit is rock solid..
- Rifling is good and bore is smooth..
- Feed ramp is smooth as well..
- Looks good with Hogue wrap arounds

Pictures....

http://s3.postimage.org/dJBkS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqdJBkS)
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KageFox
06-03-2010, 11:42 PM
Looks good in the pics. Seems to be better than some of the other clones.

Aquarius
06-03-2010, 11:42 PM
Very nice clone indeed.......

Ilyas
06-03-2010, 11:44 PM
Nice clone, but the best thing is to see MIT and KF online after so many days :)
Hope you both are doing well. Wish you both all the best and hope to see you
more frequently. Regards!

shahzad awan
06-03-2010, 11:52 PM
beautiful gun @Zafar Alam, like the grip try to post good quality pics with white back ground congrats to your friend on new gun.

Sensei
07-03-2010, 12:27 AM
indeed a very nice and so well finish of this gun really giving an impressive look congrats midreestaj :cool:

Denovo87
07-03-2010, 12:44 AM
Very original looking clone indeed..

ALI BABA
07-03-2010, 02:44 AM
was that grip on it when you bought it or you have taken this grip

Faheem
07-03-2010, 07:45 AM
midreestaj brother very nice looking clone and very close to original. I have already used Original 92FS but its also lookin very genuine..........

Jillanik
07-03-2010, 08:42 AM
My humble advise " Not to fire too much rounds" in one go.

MIdreesTaj
07-03-2010, 09:18 AM
Thank you everybody for appreciating...

@Bro Ilyas.. Best regards! and hope to improve on forum despite the little time I have nowdays due to other committments

@ALI BABA, grips are plastic with this gun always. These grips are an add on. Hogue TM full wrap around. Cost is 4k.

@Jillanik, bro too much is? 500, 1000 or 1000+. For a casual shooter 500 is going to be too much in one go. And for a fire arm fanatic who likes to stress test 1000+ would bring in some joy factor.
I doubt this would fire 1000+ rounds error free in one go like a glock sig or org 92FS but they do take 300 round diet with 0 malfunction. I have done that on my other 92 clone, and usually it easily takes 100, 150 or 200ish number of round diet with 0 malfunctions on POF ammo every now and then.

Topak
07-03-2010, 04:07 PM
congrats idrees,
Hmmmmmmmmmm
one more license and one more clone and that too 92 FS :)
you told me you will not buy a clone, but a taurus.
and what about the "nasihat" i told you in my office? :P

Ahsanfurqan
07-03-2010, 10:05 PM
congrats

Salahuddin Ayubi
08-03-2010, 08:25 AM
Very nice clone.

Aamar
08-03-2010, 08:37 AM
Nice one :)

PsiFactor
08-03-2010, 08:40 AM
WOW i like that one.l

ay_be_why
08-03-2010, 09:20 AM
Very fine looking clone sir. And good to see you after quite a while.

HasanJamshad
08-03-2010, 09:46 AM
Nice writeup and the pics brother, your style of writing is quite close to our another great knowledgeable friend "12Gauge". Keep it up brother.

About clones i am of the view of Jilanik sahib, one shouldn't use these clones for range use. As, at the range gun is used quite extensively in its service life and the cost of ammo is much more as compared to the cost of the gun. So, always be careful, use clones for selfdefence only.

LionHeart
08-03-2010, 10:01 AM
@midreesta:

Brother nice sharing, Indeed its a great looking clone as well as nice review. After watching the photos and reading your review about his clone, It seem this could be a the one of the best quality clones available in the market in these days. Its really an admirable Pak Made clone.

Thanks a lot for sharing this beauty.

regards

MIdreesTaj
08-03-2010, 10:35 AM
congrats idrees,
Hmmmmmmmmmm
one more license and one more clone and that too 92 FS :)
you told me you will not buy a clone, but a taurus.
and what about the "nasihat" i told you in my office? :P

Sir jee! license is still intact and waiting for the new OSS or may be a 809-E.. this one was for a very dear friend of mine who asked me to buy him a 92 clone (selected one) and well your nasihat is right there only needs to be stamped :)
Regards

MIdreesTaj
08-03-2010, 10:58 AM
Best wishes and thanks... ay_be_why, ahsanfurqan, Salahuddin Ayubi, Aamar and LionHeart :)

@HasanJamshad thank you for appreciation Sir! I tried to keep it concise as much as possible however bro 12gauge likes to go in nitty gritties. More power and respect to him :)
Sir I hold the same opinion as that of yours regarding the locally produced pistols of this quality for standing good in SD purposes. What I say is they have enough reliability for that job.
Range use however would result in much stressing of its components and might lead to failures of some xyz sort, of which most expected ones are magazine issues which would give failures to feed commonly.
But that is our opinion, most of our brothers would say opposite. They think it is good for range fun and a BIG NO for SD. They tend to under estimate it's reliability simply...

Topak
08-03-2010, 11:58 AM
congrats idrees,
Hmmmmmmmmmm
one more license and one more clone and that too 92 FS :)
you told me you will not buy a clone, but a taurus.
and what about the "nasihat" i told you in my office? :P

Sir jee! license is still intact and waiting for the new OSS or may be a 809-E.. this one was for a very dear friend of mine who asked me to buy him a 92 clone (selected one) and well your nasihat is right there only needs to be stamped :)
Regards
Sorry idrees for misreading/non reading.
OSS or 809-E :)

Skeeter60
08-03-2010, 12:10 PM
Idrees Taj
Where have you been for such a long time, you wre missed.

Skeeter60
08-03-2010, 12:21 PM
I agree with HJ using clones on the ranges really puts these under great stress as a large number of rounds are usually fired. ( i think the shooters on either side of the clone shooter are more at risk/ stress)
I have found use of real Berreta 92 FS to have been discontinued by a group of ( Hasas Idara ) after a very large number broke when extensively fired on the ranges. Surprisingly some had the locking lugs on the barrels shorn off.
Others had slides broken and cracked. I will soon post pictures, it will take me about two weeks though as I will have to drive two hundred KMs to take the pictures.
They have switched over to Sig 226 X 5 all steel

MIdreesTaj
08-03-2010, 12:25 PM
Idrees Taj
Where have you been for such a long time, you wre missed.

Salute Sir! still at service :) was the last comrade standing by the barbed wire out in the harsh sun.
I hope to keep my presence mandatory as due to some committments I coudnt gather much time to think.

Regards.

Salahuddin Ayubi
08-03-2010, 01:12 PM
So, always be careful, use clones for selfdefence only.


But that is our opinion, most of our brothers would say opposite. They think it is good for range fun and a BIG NO for SD. They tend to under estimate it's reliability simply...

Rightly said Idrees as I am one of those who would never advocate using a clone for SD. Ideal thing to do would/should be to use a proven-quality handgun to serve both range (practice) and SD use.

haiderkn
08-03-2010, 01:14 PM
Nice and beautiful clone....... I have also one S& W clone perfect in all respect.

Enigmatic Desires
08-03-2010, 01:44 PM
If looks alone are an indicator. then Zafar alam`s clones are as good as a (desi) clone can get

MIdreesTaj
09-03-2010, 08:51 AM
I agree with HJ using clones on the ranges really puts these under great stress as a large number of rounds are usually fired. ( i think the shooters on either side of the clone shooter are more at risk/ stress)
I have found use of real Berreta 92 FS to have been discontinued by a group of ( Hasas Idara ) after a very large number broke when extensively fired on the ranges. Surprisingly some had the locking lugs on the barrels shorn off.
Others had slides broken and cracked. I will soon post pictures, it will take me about two weeks though as I will have to drive two hundred KMs to take the pictures.
They have switched over to Sig 226 X 5 all steel

Sir jee.. about the hassas idara's experience with locking blocks of of this pistol.. sounds quite a common problem as it occured in 80's too with the 92F with faulty slides. Slides were fixed then and never heard of 92F's slide cracking or breaking then in US army. However the story of locking block is different. I have/had always believed that 92F is a very service able pistol with modular design in its locking action. The locking/swinging block, which takes most of the stress of recoil operation is a replaceable item rendering the pistol to fresh stock form. Unlike the JMB tilt barrel system, which dissipates the recoil forces over slide cutouts, barrel lugs and frame inserts more uniformly giving it a longer life, but does render the pistol more weak after say a long period. Stress can be seen in all components and that is why after extensive use, JMB deployed action pistols start cracking their steel frames e.g colt 1911, sig P226. You can find this over the internet as well.
I always admired this design due to its modularity in its action, block gets replaced after 8-10k rounds and it is as good to go as new.

Regards and Good morning

Skeeter60
09-03-2010, 09:16 AM
FS slide is only a safe one as although it does not prevent breaking it does not break the jaw of the shooter.
I do not like a pistol which requires a change of parts like air filters or oil in a car.
If the real thing is so fragile what about the Clone ???
Hope you now get what I meant

Abbas
09-03-2010, 09:37 AM
Ah things seem normal again :cool:

Salahuddin Ayubi
09-03-2010, 10:31 AM
The locking/swinging block, which takes most of the stress of recoil operation is a replaceable item rendering the pistol to fresh stock form.

Please apologize my barging in, but just for my info, how can one (in KHI) acquire an extra locking block for a Taurus PT92 (or one that fits in perfectly).

MIdreesTaj
10-03-2010, 09:55 AM
The locking/swinging block, which takes most of the stress of recoil operation is a replaceable item rendering the pistol to fresh stock form.

Please apologize my barging in, but just for my info, how can one (in KHI) acquire an extra locking block for a Taurus PT92 (or one that fits in perfectly).

Dear SA, have no idea about its availability in KHI. You can certainly walk up to a dealer who has an import license. Ask him to import it.

As a side note: Beretta has modified it's Design to avoid breakage of the locking wings. They have modified the cornered wings to more rounded wings. The new Beretta Locking Blocks have been tested to withstand hard use of 40,000 to 50,000 rounds. Also the Walther P38 using the same locking block, has rounded corners on the block wings and generally last the life of the pistol.
Do check your PT92's locking blocks for rounded wings.

Salahuddin Ayubi
10-03-2010, 10:20 AM
Thanks Idrees. I'll check this evening.

mlkqsm
14-03-2010, 06:00 PM
i saw that lahore police were using beretta 92fs . . . is that original or clone ?
any one know about that !

Skeeter60
14-03-2010, 07:15 PM
Ah things seem normal again :cool:

I like it

Skeeter60
14-03-2010, 07:22 PM
i saw that lahore police were using beretta 92fs . . . is that original or clone ?
any one know about that !

When issued these were original. I wonder if these are that way; may be may be some have evolved into new clones with similar numbers.
The glocks I saw with them were in a pathetic state having beeen liberally drenched in some kind of gummy oil, the trigger would not return after firing immediately and other problems like misfiring due to gummy firing pins and springs. Well what can we do

Salahuddin Ayubi
15-03-2010, 08:12 AM
When issued these were original. I wonder if these are that way; may be may be some have evolved into new clones with similar numbers.

:o

Topak
15-03-2010, 10:14 AM
When issued these were original. I wonder if these are that way; may be may be some have evolved into new clones with similar numbers.

:o
two reported cases in my city...one with 92FS and other is Glock 17....both replaced with high quality clones. :|

MIdreesTaj
15-03-2010, 10:19 AM
Same report here.. What else can be expected from a local service man here. Original on sale or at home and clone serves duty very well. :D

MIdreesTaj
15-03-2010, 10:29 AM
The glocks I saw with them were in a pathetic state having beeen liberally drenched in some kind of gummy oil, the trigger would not return after firing immediately and other problems like misfiring due to gummy firing pins and springs. Well what can we do

Sir this is a testimony of performance for the local weapons indeed, because you know we can even render a glock inoperable. We have that speciality gum which may still work in a local weapon but can prove Gaston wrong easily. :)

BERETTA M9 9mm
15-03-2010, 08:41 PM
Nice pics..................Nice clone............

SPAYPANTHER
15-03-2010, 08:47 PM
it is coollllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

Kamran_uk75
01-05-2010, 01:18 AM
Very beautifully cloned gun..

sunnipk2002
25-07-2011, 01:57 AM
dear mr adrees,
do you live in lahore. and will you please buy me an other baretta clone 92fs. i have recently made my licence for NPB. I asked a dealer who was telling me the final price Rs.23000. i have recently joined pakguns again. i saw reviews of this clone. it fascinated me so much and i want to buy early as am 10 days left to register my weapon number.

please guide me.
salman.

imran.khan
25-07-2011, 02:03 AM
sorry to say after i read pakguns i will never ever buy clone.

MIdreesTaj
25-07-2011, 09:01 AM
sorry to say after i read pakguns i will never ever buy clone.

You are right. Pakguns general consensus is what you have quoted above.

I will add in it, due to certain shortcomings in our production methods, and such as lack of education and finance on top of it, we have shaken our confidence in our local weapons although, Beretta 92 FS clone is one of the best sought out piece.

What it is capable of, is beyond recognition and further criticism due to above mentioned reaons stated. Like we have found our fate in preferring Levis, American accent, Imported fragrences, and finally migrating out of Pakistan. Sad but True :)

Who is to own whats made on Ali Jinnah's piece of land will be sorted out after the dust sets off. Hopeful for a brighter future..to stay and proliferate...

HussainAli
25-07-2011, 12:47 PM
You are right. Pakguns general consensus is what you have quoted above.

I will add in it, due to certain shortcomings in our production methods, and such as lack of education and finance on top of it, we have shaken our confidence in our local weapons although, Beretta 92 FS clone is one of the best sought out piece.

What it is capable of, is beyond recognition and further criticism due to above mentioned reaons stated. Like we have found our fate in preferring Levis, American accent, Imported fragrences, and finally migrating out of Pakistan. Sad but True :)

Who is to own whats made on Ali Jinnah's piece of land will be sorted out after the dust sets off. Hopeful for a brighter future..to stay and proliferate...

Dear MIdrees Taj Bro, Very Bitter BUT Truth !!!!!!!!!!!!

I would also repeat you last lines;

"""Who is to own whats made on Ali Jinnah's piece of land will be sorted out after the dust sets off. Hopeful for a brighter future..to stay and proliferate... """


Regards & Duaa

arfat110
25-07-2011, 06:07 PM
well made clone

mirzaw
26-07-2011, 12:13 AM
@MIT very nice clone

Rizshu
29-07-2011, 09:05 PM
Nice one Bro... Congrats.

Furrukh
30-07-2011, 12:48 AM
Nice one Bro... Congrats.

But not better than the CF 98, nahin ? lolzzz

Asiftt
30-07-2011, 11:14 AM
Good Clone, so it looks like clones vary peice to piece, one may not find such a clean/good-looking piece if ordered again, and in specific depends on the person who makes it........nice work Zafar Alam.....

Kayzar
03-08-2011, 11:44 AM
3142

check mine.

Nazim Sahib
03-08-2011, 04:39 PM
Nice.I feel like getting one now.

mirzaw
03-08-2011, 07:54 PM
Kayzar Bro its beautiful, upload more pics of it..

Razzor
26-01-2012, 10:17 PM
salam: Zafar bhai plz tell me how much price Hogue wrap rubber grip plz and were buying you i waitng ur message

Razzor
26-01-2012, 10:18 PM
Razzor_recon@hotmail.com
my adress

ajjab khan
23-07-2012, 03:54 AM
Zaffar bhai is ki price bata sakty hai kiya hai
and if i bye where i ??????????

Ahmad82
23-07-2012, 11:16 AM
Kayzer bro you always got good thing and in cheap price this is how much?

ghulamahmad82@gmail.com plz mail me

ajjab khan
23-07-2012, 01:00 PM
A O A MIDrees bhai
you tell me 92 fs clone price and where i buy

ajjab khan
04-08-2012, 10:37 PM
bhai jan aap se pocha tha k is ki price bata dy
or where i buy

farrukhnaik2000
05-08-2012, 01:52 PM
bhai jan aap se pocha tha k is ki price bata dy
or where i buy

In Rwp....ITs for Rs 23,000/- or so. Available with Ellahi Bux and Sons

shafiq992
05-08-2012, 03:17 PM
Well i am also thinking to chnage my 30 bore and get this

Kamranwali
05-08-2012, 11:53 PM
Salam All,
Dear ajjab khan and shafiq992 brothers. Please stay away from local clones. Please go through the forum and you'll find numerous feedbacks/opinions on local Beretta Clones. They are dangerous, both to the user and to the people around you.
If you want a weapon for defense, its better not to buy the 92fs clone at all, give away the money to someone needy and pray to God that HE helps you in any life threatening situation...... its a MUCH MUCH better bet.
If you still need the weapon, better buy a chinese TT, cheapest most reliable handgun in Pakistan.

Regards.

ubaidrehmat
06-08-2012, 12:10 AM
Donot go for clones bro u people can find a chinese i guess by pumping in a little more money....which will be a good decision on ur part....otherwise it is available with many dealers in islamabad and rawalpindi just check it out...but u will regret...

ajjab khan
07-08-2012, 01:35 AM
kamranwali bhai if i make special order 92fs in darra dealer you tell me he is right or wrong

ajjab khan
07-08-2012, 01:36 AM
shafiq992 how model first you have ?????????

Enigmatic Desires
07-08-2012, 01:49 AM
how model first you have ?????????

I have no idea what u just said

ajjab khan
07-08-2012, 11:38 PM
sorry dear yesterday i miss some words then you cant understand

Kamranwali
08-08-2012, 12:03 AM
Salam All,
@ ajjab khan... If you're asking whether a 92 clone, which is made on "Special Order", is good or not..... the answer is still no. Please avoid clones at all cost. If you want one as a Paper weight, or may be a decoration, then do buy it. But if you want something that you want to shoot, the minimum recommendation is a used chinese TT.

Regards.

Enigmatic Desires
08-08-2012, 02:14 AM
Kamrani wali Bhai. today isaw a clone that I really liked. a betty with a safety lever that felt like butter.. Not to soft and yet not too stiff.. Excellent trigger.. No gritty feeling. and break like thin glass..
Both the trigger and the safety/decocker Way smoother then the Cougher me and Tatur1 had just bought..

Checked the firing pin safety. while decocking. It went up just like the cougher's pin...

Had it not been for my now inbuilt distrust of all clones. i would have bought it in a jiffy..

Kamranwali
08-08-2012, 02:29 AM
Salam All,
ED Bro, you can thank that inbuilt distrust. :) you are a brother, and I mean it, just stay away from clones.

Also, what you're talking about is probably the roller type safety that goes up between the firing pin and hammer, but in one of of my earlier posts I mentioned the "firing pin block", which is raised by a pin near the sear of the gun, when the trigger is pulled. This pushes a small squarish block on the underside of the slide, into the slide. The movement of this block has to be precise, so that it moves out of a cut made into the firing pin, for the firing pin to move forward.

Phew.....I know, I know...... I just complicated that :D, i'll try to post some pictures tomorrow.

Regards.

Kamranwali
08-08-2012, 02:42 AM
Here's a video of what I was refering to. This video is of a taurus pt 92, the shape of the block is round as compared to the squarish one of the beretta, but the purpose is the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAv0XWEjWIw

In the clones that I have checked, the fining pin protrudes, even if the block isn't pressed into the slide. So, there's a bigger chance of accidental discharge if say the gun drops on its muzzle, or if the roller fails to engage for some reason.

Regards.

Enigmatic Desires
08-08-2012, 02:43 AM
I would appriciate some pics really..

The dealer told me the 25% rule regarding resale values.. If U re-sale a clone U get 25% of the cost. while selling an imported peice means U lose 25% value. Keeping this equation in mind.. a 30k used CF seemed a lot better option then a 22k betty.

Btw kamraniwali. have U seen the Girsan Betty clone. The turks have made very good copy. The fit/finish is pretty cool. the asking price is 50k

Kamranwali
08-08-2012, 02:52 AM
LOLZ at the timing of the posts.
ED Bro, I have seen it, and looks promising, but saw it at a dealer's so didn't open her up. :) Considering the quality of Turkish guns, doesn't seem a bad option priced better than a Taurus.

By the way, check this link out.

http://www.berettacollection.com/9mm/9mm.html

ajjab khan
09-08-2012, 03:21 AM
thankx you tell me about china norinco and wanamax hows is the best ??????

Enigmatic Desires
09-08-2012, 03:31 AM
Here's a video of what I was refering to. This video is of a taurus pt 92, the shape of the block is round as compared to the squarish one of the beretta, but the purpose is the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAv0XWEjWIw

In the clones that I have checked, the fining pin protrudes, even if the block isn't pressed into the slide. So, there's a bigger chance of accidental discharge if say the gun drops on its muzzle, or if the roller fails to engage for some reason.

Regards.

Thanks for the ruely awesome share. from now onwards. I am going to do my reviews with a pancil in my pocket. As it is the dealers think I am a bit wierd .. :D

Enigmatic Desires
09-08-2012, 03:32 AM
thankx you tell me about china norinco and wanamax hows is the best ??????

Personaly I have never been able to figure that one out myself. They both seem the same to me. barring the prce difference and the name

Kamranwali
09-08-2012, 03:54 AM
Thanks for the ruely awesome share. from now onwards. I am going to do my reviews with a pancil in my pocket. As it is the dealers think I am a bit wierd .. :D

LOLZZZZ, I dont think you'll be able to pull it off, "Pressing" Ball pens/pencils into their clones. :D

But do try it with your friend's "ORIGINAL" one :D and few other clones your acquantances might have.

Enigmatic Desires
09-08-2012, 03:56 AM
My freind wont believe me. Regardless of what I say or do.. he has had it for years an years and short of shooting him I cant convince him otherwise..

Enigmatic Desires
18-08-2012, 01:45 AM
Thanks a lot Kamran wali bhai. I just went though the video very very slowly so that tomorow when I go to teh local gun walas I would know just what to see..

Enigmatic Desires
05-09-2012, 09:53 PM
Very useful video Karmanwali Bhai. However just about all the clones I have seen, seem to have a proper firing pin safety rather then a simple roller type safety. Or may be i am doing somthing wrong..

Kamranwali
06-09-2012, 09:43 AM
Salam All,
ok ED Bro, this is news for me. Maybe, just maybe, they got it right finally. I'll visit some dealers and check out the fresh lots and update you accordingly. Sometime next week maybe.

Regards.

Enigmatic Desires
07-09-2012, 02:45 AM
Salam All,
ok ED Bro, this is news for me. Maybe, just maybe, they got it right finally. I'll visit some dealers and check out the fresh lots and update you accordingly. Sometime next week maybe.

Regards.

Please..
I wold really really appreciate it as will we all.
I have been meaning to do a write up on locals. A review to be precise on the ups and downs specially the safeties on these guns. However I may be doing something wrong or not following the Utube video properly. And I really wont want to misguide a whole bunch of people.

M20mauser
09-09-2012, 11:36 AM
bhai jan i want buy that clone where i buy it and what is the price of it??????

Enigmatic Desires
09-09-2012, 12:18 PM
bhai jan i want buy that clone where i buy it and what is the price of it??????

M20Mauser bhai. U have already repeated the same querry almost half a dozen times in the same section. Do u have a license?

wasifali89
11-09-2012, 03:30 PM
what is your review on the MAG springs ? have you changed them or you are using the same that came with it ?
IMHO you should change them as they are the key to malfunctions in most of our local guns

specially i would like to ask you if you use them at full capacity or 9-10 loads ?