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AK47
01-03-2010, 06:56 AM
Salaams! Promised some update on my purchases during recent Lahore visit, so here is the whole story. With Thanks again to Naveed who worked hard for a full week prior to my visit, I chose below items for my SD requirements.

The PT 145 had long been on my mind, in that Denovo Sir and I both wanted something "powerful", yet concealable, simultaneously. Chief Sb suggested it as a consideration, with some positive words about his own one, so following Den's honeymoon with his "Karishma", I too felt it was a reliably reviewed handgun that could serve my needs.

As far as the tactical shotgun is concerned, I must say my choice below was a total U-turn in comparison to what I had contemplated prior to my visit. Naveed had reserved the semi-auto "Germanica" for me by two different dealers, and I was totally set out for it as such. Yet - call it "love at first glance", or whatsoever - while looking around for some ammo, we came across this beauty, an ultra short Tomahawk SAC 2500, that just somehow blew the minds out of me and I knew within seconds, that for this time around, it's gonna be this thing I'd be taking along with me!

Barrel length merely 14 inches, 35cms to be correct, 4+1 Pump-action, tactical rails, heat-shield, only slightly longer than my forearm, course it's gonna be on my front seat! :P. @Lionheart, Nabeel ... ;). Actually kind of a compensation for my "Widow", which causes too much of unnecessary attention these days ;) Hope you'll enjoy, will be back in a few days with some shooting report. See you. :)

The 12 Gauge ammo:

http://s4.postimage.org/Fq0f0.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVFq0f0)

My Choice: Tomahawk SAC 2500, 4+1 pump action.

http://s4.postimage.org/FqadA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVFqadA)

http://s2.postimage.org/c7AR9.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Tsc7AR9)

http://s2.postimage.org/c8leS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Tsc8leS)

And My personal "Touch"! :P :

http://s3.postimage.org/VX5tS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqVX5tS)


Front sight + "Laser" below tube :

http://s1.postimage.org/bEvAi.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxbEvAi)

SUREFIRE FLASHLIGHT::

http://s4.postimage.org/FoPpJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVFoPpJ)

DOUBLE "KARISHMA", the SD "DUO":

http://s4.postimage.org/FonZ9.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVFonZ9)

And the PT 145:

http://s1.postimage.org/bLSwS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxbLSwS)

PT 145 + Holster "Uncle Mike" + Ammo.

http://s2.postimage.org/cc3Ii.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Tscc3Ii)

PT 145 & Stoeger for size comparison:

http://s4.postimage.org/Fx3er.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVFx3er)

shahzad awan
01-03-2010, 09:02 AM
Beautiful guns AK47 and nice photograpy

Anthrax
01-03-2010, 09:12 AM
Congratulations, Ak! Some remarkable beauties you've got there. The PT145 in .45 is truly a concealable and powerful handgun. And the concealable 12 gauge beauty is a thing of its own. Excellent choice for self defence and a great choice to carry some serious punch in the car.

By the way, just a suggestion, don't put lasers and sights on a 14 incher. It looks like a beauty without the makeup. ;)

AK47
01-03-2010, 09:28 AM
Thanks Shazad.

@Anthrax........Thanks bro, you're absolutely right, it's one nice beauty by itself. Actually, it was just a try, but the light for sure is a useful item also, Ill be looking around for some other mount that somehow could "lower" it a bit down, not to look obtrusive, however.

Maximus
01-03-2010, 12:02 PM
solid purchases. congrats AKsb!

the idea of a concealable 12 guage never crossed my mind. new one for most guys i guess to see something so unique or maybe its just me whos drooling.

Naveed_pk
01-03-2010, 12:41 PM
@Ak47 Congarts On your new Purchase, Wow !!! Nice Photography
Regarrding Tomohawk ,Yes Now we can say It "Tactical Shotgun" .. Awesome look ...
Plz Sir , No thanks at all .. That was my pleasure .. and beleive me all i did still not upto my expectations, was busy a little in the arrangements of my cousin marriage .. Hope to get the chance again to host you :) ..

Starfish
01-03-2010, 12:44 PM
congrats ak sir! that is one mean looking shotgun :P

HammadArshad
01-03-2010, 01:02 PM
Nice toys AK-47 Bro, mabrook! did you mention the prices of both the beauties?

Dr Zakir
01-03-2010, 02:53 PM
mubarik ho ak 47 . good purchases . how much for the pump action.

Aquarius
01-03-2010, 03:22 PM
Congratulations... now this is one example of a solid buy.
Sir AK47... could you plz mention the prices of these beauties.
My other querry... is Tomahawk SAC 2500 better than Winchester 1300 Defender.? Any senior member to comment on..

HasanJamshad
01-03-2010, 03:35 PM
AK brother, what a formidable defence! :)

Rotorcrafts
01-03-2010, 03:56 PM
I saw this thread a bit late thanks to Wapda, but solid weapons you bought AK47 sahib. I am happy for you that you got what your heart desired, definitely well worth the wait.

Salahuddin Ayubi
01-03-2010, 04:17 PM
Wow!

Congratulations AK. You've just given me 'that' itch. PT145 is right on top of my buy list. You just added another item ---- the Tomahawk. Lovely.

Prices please?

Salahuddin Ayubi
01-03-2010, 04:20 PM
PT 145 & Stoeger for size comparison:

http://s4.postimage.org/Fx3er.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVFx3er)

AK,

Don't see much different between the two size-wise. I've handled both on separate occasions, however, haven't physically compared them.

Would you like to do a detailed comparison of these two size-wise (w.r.t. concealment) and handling-wise.

Naveed_pk
01-03-2010, 04:43 PM
SA bro Pt145 @ 55k and Tomohawk @ 33k

Salahuddin Ayubi
01-03-2010, 04:47 PM
Tomahawk at 33k is pretty good.

Has AK posted any reviews yet? sorry for asking, since I'm here after a long gap.

Naveed_pk
01-03-2010, 05:10 PM
@SA bro No not yet, he will post the review soon as he return back

Nabeel
01-03-2010, 05:20 PM
Barrel length merely 14 inches, 35cms to be correct, 4+1 Pump-action, tactical rails, heat-shield, only slightly longer than my forearm, course it's gonna be on my front seat! :P. @Lionheart, Nabeel ... ;).


http://www.postimage.org/templates/images/smiley/laughing/14.gif (http://www.postimage.org/)

Denovo87
01-03-2010, 09:48 PM
Mubarrakan AK bro.. both Karishma & Kareena are show stoppers, Mashallah. Although I never been an admirer of a shotgun in a non-shotgun size but this Tomahawk indeed is beautiful.
Just take the both out and share how they behaved :)

Mitho
01-03-2010, 09:59 PM
awsome shotgun.and pt145 is a stunner.

Ilyas
01-03-2010, 10:00 PM
Congrats AK... the duo of "Karishma" and "Kareena" is simply awesome :)

Taurus
01-03-2010, 10:29 PM
Congrats Ak with the new Toys!!! Its So nice when we kids get our toys and get a review on it ...well good choice of shotgun for conceal carry AK !!!:)

DUST
01-03-2010, 10:38 PM
congratulations AK. really nice guns. MASHALLAH.
love the tomahawk. how much did you pay for it?

wittycranium
01-03-2010, 11:17 PM
Masha 'Allah! Congrats.

Great buys, choice and photography.

I am overwhelmed by the look of that tomahawk.

AK47
01-03-2010, 11:39 PM
Well, well, well, guys, sorry for some belated response here, I was actually in the village to oversee the earthwork over there, accompanied by both my new "goodies"! However, more on this below, let me just reply to some of the queries first.

@Maximus bro.........Thanks buddy, I however do not think you'd be alone in drooling over something concealable in 12 gauge! :) It's a nice feeling indeed, I just love carrying this 2Kg piece around with me, everywhere I go!

@Naveed, think I still can't thank you enough! Btw, hope you enjoyed my "live" review this eve! ;)

@Dr. Zakir Sb...........Thanks Sir, well, as already revealed by Naveed, 33K for the Tomahawk. :)

@Aquarius...........Thanks bro, and there is big difference between the Tomahawk and SX-3, totally different items, the SAC 2500 is purely security concern item.

@ Starfish.........Thanks bro. :)

@Nabeel........it's a FOREARM, indeed!;)

@HassanJamshed bro.........Thanks buddy, indeed I feel I'm formidably covered up now! :) Two powerful SD items, both easily "draw-able", implementable in seconds.

@Rotorcrafts.........Thanks buddy, now you got a "project" before you for March! ;)

@SA......... Welcome back bro, nice to hear from you again. Thanks, and yes you're right, the PT 145, in my opinion at least, should be a PG'er "MUST HAVE" item, powerful, small, elegant, and reliable. I'd go to the extent of saying even, it's kind of a Cougar in .45 as far as reliability is concerned, just better looking, more concealable.

Well, you're right also that from the picture above, size of both guns "seems" same, but it's NOT! This thing is comfortably "slimmer", shorter, lighter than the Cougar, even so light that I barely feel I'm carrying anything with me. In Lahore, I had to be very careful when moving around with it in the shopping bag, coz, weight-wise, I never felt I had a bag full of iron anywhere with me! "Grip- wise", to be honest, and this is no "new bride" flattery, but I've personally not had a better "feeling" with any gun so far, and I feel much better in "control" with this gun than with the Cougar in my medium sized hands, if not lower medium.

Abbas encouraged Den and me pretty much for this gun, then Den encouraged me further with his buy, now let me encourage you, do GO for it, bro, it's the caliber to have, if you want somthing different from the 9mm, I indeed had a very nice feeling this eve when shooting the virginity out of it! :)

I must say, do for heck's sake wear some ear protection using this caliber, it's one big bang!

@Ilyas........Thanks bro, but you got a very nice "Karena" too! ;)

@Den...........With you Sir, I conclude this post, with a bit of firing review. Was in the village this eve and shot out both items. My impressions:

PT 145:

Excellent and "crisper" trigger than the Stoeger for an instance. A great "punch" indeed, but I feel it's a matter of time only, getting accustomed to this kind of a "kick". Shot modestly only, coz it wasn't a planned shooting event, but still firing only 15 rounds so far, 10 Fmj's in slow firing towards the ground, 5 hollow points in kind of rapid, no FTE's/FTF"s, were all kind of enough to convince me of this gun. Btw, Naveed was on the other end of the phone that I kept in my pocket throughout all 15 shots, and thus he got kind of some "live" entertainment! ;) "Karishma" phone S**! :lol:

I'm sure, it's a keeper. And Den, I was quite much reluctant to taking more hollow point rounds in Lahore, though Ahsan Sb wanted me to take some 50-100 more, regret it now, it seems this babe swallows them up absolutely fine. As regards accuracy, I still can't say, it was night-time shooting, no targets as such. Will post some more detailed review with more firing, sooner, Inshallah.

The SAC 2500:

First of all, let me confide I've been moving around with this since yesterday, and when driving, I simply place it on my lap, then cover it up with my shirt (Shalwaar Kameez), and it's all covered up, yet ready to be activated any given minute!

Excellent "feeling" with firing it, recoil lower than expected, and quite controllable still with this short a barrel! Problem is just, it seems it's kind of "ammo sensitive" to Shaheen at least, giving me an FTE on third shot, cartridge expanded beyond acceptable limits! Should perhaps have used the "Federal" ammo I got from Lahore. Otherwise a very fine weapon indeed, shall write up more on more shooting soon, Inshallah. :)

Slayerjatt
02-03-2010, 01:01 AM
sir many many congratulations on the new acquistions. both are beautiful MASHAALLAH. hope tomahawk performs as good as it looks in the long run.

Sensei
02-03-2010, 01:07 AM
http://s4.postimage.org/HGFjJ.gif (http://www.postimage.org/)

A.Abbas
02-03-2010, 03:49 AM
Mubarak AK47, ultimately you got the weapons of your desire.
About the shotgun, is that exactly your famous SIGN SIZED gun. ;)

TAREEN
02-03-2010, 08:28 AM
A dandy combination for personal protection. Very focussed & good selection.

The pump-action immediately reminds of Arnold schwarzenegger. ;)

LionHeart
02-03-2010, 11:53 AM
@AK47:

Brother Mashallah, You have done a great purchasing no doubt about it ... So at last you got your desired size :P Now you must be happy after getting that :lol: Indeed its very good looking SHORT Gun I really impressed with its looks So Happy Travel Mate ;)

PT145 hmmmm don't need to say anything else about this particular handgun .... appropriate for CC and looks really impressive and compact specially along with your Stoeger not any difference in both sizes. that's really a good thing.

Best of Luck Brother and Have Save Happy shooting/experience

regards,

Salahuddin Ayubi
02-03-2010, 01:56 PM
@SA......... Welcome back bro, nice to hear from you again. Thanks, and yes you're right, the PT 145, in my opinion at least, should be a PG'er "MUST HAVE" item, powerful, small, elegant, and reliable. I'd go to the extent of saying even, it's kind of a Cougar in .45 as far as reliability is concerned, just better looking, more concealable.

Well, you're right also that from the picture above, size of both guns "seems" same, but it's NOT! This thing is comfortably "slimmer", shorter, lighter than the Cougar, even so light that I barely feel I'm carrying anything with me. In Lahore, I had to be very careful when moving around with it in the shopping bag, coz, weight-wise, I never felt I had a bag full of iron anywhere with me! "Grip- wise", to be honest, and this is no "new bride" flattery, but I've personally not had a better "feeling" with any gun so far, and I feel much better in "control" with this gun than with the Cougar in my medium sized hands, if not lower medium.

Abbas encouraged Den and me pretty much for this gun, then Den encouraged me further with his buy, now let me encourage you, do GO for it, bro, it's the caliber to have, if you want somthing different from the 9mm, I indeed had a very nice feeling this eve when shooting the virginity out of it! :)


It's great to be back AK.

Loved reading your write-up above. Very detailed and comprehensive.

And yes, absolutely..... my next procurement is surely going to be this 145 - a PG'er Must Have, as you put it.

Aquarius
02-03-2010, 02:07 PM
Dear AK47 bro.. I am not talking about sx-3.. Its Winchester 1300 Defender I was referring to..

Saleemullahkhan
02-03-2010, 02:23 PM
Dear AK47, where from did you bought this lil bull dog? :)

AK47
02-03-2010, 09:40 PM
@Slayer..........Thanks bro, with limited use and purely SD, the Tomahawk SHOULD last long enough, yet let's see. :)

@ A. Abbas..........Thanks buddy, yes it's indeed that SIZE! ;)

@TAREEN........Sir, nice to hear from you, and thanks. Well, I'd call it more of a Brooke Shields than a Scwarzenegger, yet let's see how it does stretches out it's hidden muscles! ;)

@Aquarius.........The Winchester 1300 Defender is one entrusted item, just bigger in size and also in required cash funds.

@SaleemUllah Khan...........Bro, I did receive your email, yet my regrets, I couldn't call you up so far, just been too heck busy, think of many things, when at the end of the day 50% still missing. Will talk to you tomorrow, Inshallah. Also let you know of the Bulldog. :)

AK47
05-03-2010, 03:53 AM
The Tomahawk SAC 2500 has a 3" and NOT 2.75" as initially posted, and this little "bulldog", as Saleemullahkhan cutely has nicked my new shotgun, still packs on a 4+1 capacity. Amazing, I would say for a sub 14" barrel.

KageFox
05-03-2010, 10:58 AM
A formidable duo! Great pics, sir! :D

Good to know that the PT145 behaves well with ammo, unlike reports of its younger sibling, the PT111. And the Tom could easily ruin a BG's day, no question about it!

Ka_Khan
05-03-2010, 02:44 PM
Congratulations AK47 for the purchase and then the replacement.Saw them late !
Now you are fully loaded.

AK47
06-03-2010, 01:10 AM
@Kagefox, Ka_Khan, thanx bros!

Faheem
06-03-2010, 07:15 AM
AK47 brother congratulation for a new purchase and replacement in time...

Enigmatic Desires
06-03-2010, 07:42 PM
a .45 with a rail in n concealable as well..
Heck htat mini cannon.. the tomahawk is simply ideal dessert

AK47
07-03-2010, 12:52 AM
a .45 with a rail in n concealable as well..
Heck htat mini cannon.. the tomahawk is simply ideal dessert

ED...........Strange enough, but whether your "desserts" or mine, heck they're usually found in Lahore only! :lol:

Btw, RWP market doesn't even know of it's existence!

MIdreesTaj
07-03-2010, 11:30 AM
@AK47 bro loved you HD/SD combo... Much appreciated your Mil PRo PT145 it is so famous and liked worldwide.
Its good to see you choose .45 for SD. Congrats

AK47
08-03-2010, 12:16 AM
@midreestaj...........Thanks bro! :) Well, if present trend with the .45 ACP keeps on, it's Sir Denovo's, and by now my opinion too, this caliber is gonna get quite famous for SD pretty soon! :)

Enigmatic Desires
08-03-2010, 02:47 PM
a .45 with a rail in n concealable as well..
Heck htat mini cannon.. the tomahawk is simply ideal dessert

ED...........Strange enough, but whether your "desserts" or mine, heck they're usually found in Lahore only! :lol:

Btw, RWP market doesn't even know of it's existence!


Pfft.. rawalpindi is boring.. spacialy where desserts are concerned. thats why I am shifting there...

AK47
15-03-2010, 12:21 AM
Finally got one "temporary" holster for my new PT 145, which has literally been lying in it's box, since purchase, coz of lack of a proper holster availability. This one is "near to fit" only, still awaiting my special ordered one from Saddler house, Rwp, but at least this one gave the gun a chance to be "vented" today:

http://s4.postimage.org/qpq9J.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVqpq9J)

Dr Hanif Malik
15-03-2010, 09:00 AM
@ak 47 sir your all purchase are very depth,classic:)
your love to these arms look like a dewana,happy brother ,but take little breeth,and add some sport items also, atleast for your beautifull child,small air gun,air pistols etc thanks:)

AK47
15-03-2010, 10:08 AM
@ak 47 sir your all purchase are very depth,classic:)
your love to these arms look like a dewana,happy brother ,but take little breeth,and add some sport items also, atleast for your beautifull child,small air gun,air pistols etc thanks:)

Thanks Dr. Sahib, I intend to add something "sporty" too soon, especially an air-gun. Yet, as far as the "kiddo" is concerned, rest assured he didn't come back "empty handed": Highly PB, ha ha ha, BB sized plastic pellets! :lol: :lol: :lol:

http://s3.postimage.org/G90u0.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqG90u0)

LionHeart
15-03-2010, 10:15 AM
@AK47:

As usual good purchasing ... nice looking holster ... beside this .... Wowwwww WWII MP40 is this an Air Gun ? Brother nice surprise indeed .... what about sharing its details ???

regards,

AK47
18-03-2010, 01:54 PM
And "custom holstered", made by Shamas Saddler, Rwp. Also asked him to make me a "draw out" holster for the Tomahawk SAC 2500, with possibility of firing one round, right through it, without having to draw first!

http://s1.postimage.org/8QhZr.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx8QhZr)

http://s3.postimage.org/QQ07i.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqQQ07i)

Aquarius
18-03-2010, 02:22 PM
@AK47:Bro this custom holster looks great indeed, but in this picture the trigger is quite visible in the holstered gun, which is OK for the gun to be carried without a round in the chamber.... But as far as I remember, you prefer it to be carried with one in the pipe for which a holster which covers the trigger guard should be prefered.... just a safety factor... :)

Salahuddin Ayubi
18-03-2010, 07:43 PM
@ AK47.

Nice holsters AK.

Was in Saddar today to pick up my green back. Guess what, I've located a 145 Pro and have brought the dealer down to 62k on initial bargaining. He was persisting that I buy it today but I told him that I'll pick it up next week in 60k final. He'll hold it for me till then.

Mitho
18-03-2010, 10:31 PM
congrats SA on ur find.

AK47
18-03-2010, 11:43 PM
@SA....Just came back from the village, shot out both things, 2 mags with the PT 145, 2 tubes with the the Tomahawk, still no FTE, FTF, with any of them, heck they are great guns both. So, you didn't just find a PT 145, bro, you found the best, most potent and "punchful" sub 100K item money can buy, so congrats and now go for it FAST! Btw, I used all Serbian hollow points with the PT 145, and Cyprus B.B for the Tomahawk, which's "kick", I have fully been accustomed to by now, and as far as the PT 145 is concerned, heck, it's one nice trigger and very low recoil, not much more than a 9mm.

AK47
19-03-2010, 02:03 AM
And this is an additional firing report to the above, and quite a funny one! Lights been out this night, from around 10-30 pm till 1.am, and just an hour ago, heard some shots from the neighborhood, took out the tomahawk from my bedside and was quickly out onto my front terrase within a minute or so, where in the darkness I observed one fast running person across the street, some 50-60 yards away. Within a second or so, my attached flashlight was tracing him throughout his action, he didn't stop! And there you go, I turned on the laser instantly, pointing straight before his feet, and heck, he not only stopped, but even yelled loudly "Khan Sahib, it's me, Siddaqat"! Ha ha ha, it was our neighborhood Chowkidaar on night duty, running towards the spot of firing, which later appeared to have been started due to a car theft attempt!

I let him go course, but moments after, shot out 3 fires from the Tomahawk, this time around with P.O.F SG, without any problems whatsoever, though I had my doubts on these due to over-expanding shells as per my initial experience, as you may remember, though those were No.4 P.O.F shells.

Anyhow, apart from trouble-free shooting with the SG shells, learnt ONE important thing: The laser DOES have an "intimidating" effect, indeed! The guy didn't stop at the flashlight torch, but stopped fully at the red dot pointing at him! O.K I admit, being friendly to me and occasionally discussing weapons issue with me, he DID already know about my lasersights, but still, even if someone doesn't know about the concept of laser aims, I believe a "red dot" pointing towards the torso or down before the feet of anyone would indeed give him cause for a second thought, before he proceeds on with any undertaking, whatsoever! I suggest to have such tactical accessories mounted on HD weapons, coz on the SDW's, it's gonna inhibit ability to remain a CCW. Besides, especially with such a short barrel as that of my Tomahawk, hardly 14 inches, and in the midst of night, at least you do know what the heck you're pointing at!

LionHeart
19-03-2010, 09:52 AM
@AK47:

Brother that means Last light you were playing Cobra Cobra (Sylvester Stallone's Movie). :lol: and good to know that someone stopped after noticing your laser dot ... or kasay na rukta after all Pasay kharchay howe hain ... :lol:

Wasay Acha howa ... Khan Sahib Jaldi Pasay Puray hogay hain .... :lol:

Btw this after reading your above story .... I guess that Siddagat is well known about your stuffs and activities so by keep running for some time he might be giving your this chance so you can play with that everything you have mounted your DharFooti (1.5) otherwise in normal cases you wouldn't be able to do the same .... :D

Khan Sahib .... Hun te Pasay Puray Ho gay tay agli dafa khayaal rakhiyo .... Next time that running person would be the real one and you will come to your terrace with your 1.5 and turn on its flash light with the hope he will stop and you wait for few seconds but he wouldn't ...... actually you would helping him by Enlighten his way through your flash light ... then next you will turn on your Laser Dot by sure he will stop after noticing it and you will wait for few more seconds thinking he is about to stop ...... but there he goes ..... Out of your range and then you will have to Do a Loud ..... Dan Ten Dan and you will start playing drama serial Aandhera Ojalla and you would be chasing him by foot .... :lol:

Aquarius
19-03-2010, 11:03 AM
@Ak47: Very nice experience Sir...........

Naveed_pk
19-03-2010, 11:37 AM
@AK47 bro happy to read that the piece we got replaced is not Ammo sensitive ... :) and yes :lol: the funny part of the chowkidar ... he will not run again in future near ure house esp after some Gun shots .. And Did u installed the laser on Picatinny rails or the mounts u bought recently ..

AK47
19-03-2010, 06:14 PM
@Lionheart..........lolzzz! About the "cobra" issue, well, heck no buddy, it wasn't like that at all, no action movie, "Cobra" is one SMART and ALERT guy, bro, here your "bhaabhi" had to wake up this brother of yours after some 4-6 shots had already been fired in the nearby. and trust me, due to plenty of sleepless nights recently, both due to business and pleasure, they could have started a whole "street battle" out there, without my awakening! :lol:

I woke up quite dizzy and unclear bro, all I knew was trouble outside my house, so I quickly spotted the Tomahawk and got outside, and as far as "Siddaqat" is concerned, sure he knows much about my tactical stuff, I even use to wake him up with a laser beam by his feet, if from my terrasse, during a late night cigarette, I occasionally watch him "dozing" to sleep, and he is usually on his feet right away! :lol: :lol: Funnily. he uses to remark" We guard the town, while you guard us" :lol: :lol:

Anyhow bro, all I meant to say is that if you check what they say over there in the states, where people are aware of laser-aims, etc, these things do have the "intimidating" effect, problem here with us is that people are not "aware" of these sighting tools, therefore, would just keep running, unlike "Siddaqat", who indeed stopped coz he knew my stuff. Yet, let it be said, once and for all, I wouldn't have shot at anybody, no matter what, and maximum just some alarming shots, unless my personal property was trespassed upon, that too, only if serious danger had been involved. Yet, you're absolutely right bro, "paisay poore ho gai hai" :lol: :lol:

@Aquarius......Thanks bro.

@Naveed........Yeah, Naveed, thanks God, the Tomahawk so far seems "non-sensitive" to P.O.F ammo, at least as far as the SG shell casing is concerned, heck I'll never try out the No.4 again! It still remains a partial "mystery" to me, what actually happened to my first gun, was it the ammo, or the gun? In any case, thanks God it got replaced with a fully functioning one!

Btw, the laser is still placed where it used to be, below the barrel and tube as on the pics posted, the picatinny is used for the Surefire, while the latest mount I got, somehow doesn't fit right, simply because there is no space for it, it starts touching the pumping grip of the gun and anything installed there is bound to loosen up. You know bro, it's one very "petit" thing this Tomahawk, no space for extras really, apart from on the picatinny. :)

Salahuddin Ayubi
19-03-2010, 09:42 PM
@AK47,

The "145 Trio" is now formed.

Picked up 'Karishma' today. Will post details soon.

:)

AK47
19-03-2010, 10:37 PM
@SA..........Can't congratulate you enough bro, in EVERY thread here on this purchase. And yes, indeed a "trio" is formed, yet as per the interest in this gun lately, I feel even an "eightio", "tenio" soon to be formed here!

Denovo Sir rightly predicted some time back over the phone, .45 ACP soon to be about as popular as the 9mm, at least here on PG! Welcome to the ranks, bro! :)

Salahuddin Ayubi
20-03-2010, 11:13 AM
I would like to thank both of you Denovo and AK for motivating me to go for this compact. After holding it in my hand with mag full, it truly felt that I've finally achieved my aim of getting that 'compact yet effective' CCW which I'd been looking for since last four/five months.

Jazakallah khair to Denovo and you AK, for the inspiration and guidance. Special thanks to Denovo bro for his continuous assistance and advice on phone last evening before, during and after the purchase.

Here are the pics:

Here are the pics:

http://s1.postimage.org/eDYCS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeDYCS)

http://s1.postimage.org/eE070.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeE070)

http://s1.postimage.org/eE56i.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeE56i)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEcAJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEcAJ)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEf4S.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEf4S)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEk49.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEk49)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEmzi.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEmzi)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEu2J.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEu2J)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEwxS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEwxS)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEBx9.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEBx9)

Rotorcrafts
20-03-2010, 11:52 AM
Congrats SA bhai and comparing it with a PT92 gives a fair idea of how campact it is considering the fact that it is a .45ACP

Salahuddin Ayubi
20-03-2010, 11:59 AM
Indeed Rotor.

It is a Compact Canon Weapon.

EF KAY
20-03-2010, 12:28 PM
Congrats SA bro for new purcahse of PT145 & PT92 mag :)

AK47
22-03-2010, 01:06 AM
I would like to thank both of you Denovo and AK for motivating me to go for this compact. After holding it in my hand with mag full, it truly felt that I've finally achieved my aim of getting that 'compact yet effective' CCW which I'd been looking for since last four/five months.

Jazakallah khair to Denovo and you AK, for the inspiration and guidance. Special thanks to Denovo bro for his continuous assistance and advice on phone last evening before, during and after the purchase.

Here are the pics:

Here are the pics:

http://s1.postimage.org/eDYCS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeDYCS)

http://s1.postimage.org/eE070.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeE070)

http://s1.postimage.org/eE56i.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeE56i)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEcAJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEcAJ)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEf4S.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEf4S)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEk49.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEk49)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEmzi.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEmzi)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEu2J.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEu2J)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEwxS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEwxS)

http://s1.postimage.org/eEBx9.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeEBx9)

@SA........... You're most welcome bro, we were just both convinced of this handgun and wanted you to share the "joy" too in going for her! :)

Btw, honestly speaking, and I really mean it, had I had 2 EXTRA MOI's with me, and that means 2 more in addition to those 2 that I already need for another 9mm and a shotgun more, thus 4 more in total, heck I'd go for ONE MORE PT 145 and ONE MORE TOMAHAWK, just for long time storage, in case my present "duo" get's worn out with time! :)

Salahuddin Ayubi
22-03-2010, 11:54 AM
Next thing should be to post some accuracy reviews with the 145. Both, with aim-and-shoot AND point-and-shoot approaches.

LionHeart
22-03-2010, 11:55 AM
@SA:

Brother many congrats for getting this beauty .. and yes you said very well .. its really a Compact Cannon with performing Beauty and Style..... wish of best of luck and safe fun.

regards,

doc pistol
11-11-2012, 02:49 PM
@AK47 bro...... can u please give me an update on the performance of your tomahawk2500. i ve been offered one for 28k. wanna know if i should go for it????

AK47
11-11-2012, 03:15 PM
@AK47 bro...... can u please give me an update on the performance of your tomahawk2500. i ve been offered one for 28k. wanna know if i should go for it????

I released it last year to a close brother. Until then, I had fired close to 100 shots, no issues. He's also having no issues.

The downsides:

Fibre optic front sight doesn't last. Will drop off sooner or later, the plastic thing holding it is not durable.

2) Being short in length, you gotta be careful not to incline it upwards too much when racking up for a shot. The thing is best when held straight, or maximum 30 degrees incline. 45 or above is dangerous for yourself, since it's short and will most likely be pointing towards your skull, lol!

Moreover, the reloading of another shell can be troublesome if you hold it too steep. All, nothing to do with it's functionality, but handling limitations due to it's compact size.

Else, it's a fine budget option and most suitable for carrying in and out of your car.

Just be careful to get a new and fresh one. Sheikh Saleem's stock is old and even used!!!

Kindly inform which options are available for you and from where?


Regards.

Sturmgewehr
12-11-2012, 01:24 AM
great guns congrats bro....

doc pistol
12-11-2012, 03:41 PM
I released it last year to a close brother. Until then, I had fired close to 100 shots, no issues. He's also having no issues.

The downsides:

Fibre optic front sight doesn't last. Will drop off sooner or later, the plastic thing holding it is not durable.

2) Being short in length, you gotta be careful not to incline it upwards too much when racking up for a shot. The thing is best when held straight, or maximum 30 degrees incline. 45 or above is dangerous for yourself, since it's short and will most likely be pointing towards your skull, lol!

Moreover, the reloading of another shell can be troublesome if you hold it too steep. All, nothing to do with it's functionality, but handling limitations due to it's compact size.

Else, it's a fine budget option and most suitable for carrying in and out of your car.

Just be careful to get a new and fresh one. Sheikh Saleem's stock is old and even used!!!

Kindly inform which options are available for you and from where?


Regards.

I ve been offered by PARA for 28k. it doesnt have a rail or fibre optic sight. just simple version with pistol grip.

shahroze
22-11-2012, 05:26 PM
AK47 sir that is one beast shotgun

SHOTGUNNER
23-11-2012, 12:37 AM
AK47 nice gun congratulation bro.

Qazi Usman
22-12-2012, 08:20 PM
AK47 nice gun

malikaadil
22-12-2012, 08:37 PM
yeah nice one

eminentpk
05-07-2013, 11:31 PM
Any idea of current price and availability of pt145 in lahore?

Verve
06-07-2013, 05:00 AM
Excellent buys brother and congrats ..... love the Tomahawk SAC 2500 as it is exactly the size I want for carry in car and it is 33K that is very affordable - Akdal1919 is way too big to fit under the seat let alone sit up on the passenger side seat for everyone to see... it needs the whole rear seat. I have to ask my local dealer tomorrow if he can source me T-SAC 2500 pronto (and get rid of the 8k darra made - the type which one fires 5/6 rounds in go and it is useless afterwards - from the license) but the guys in Pindi and ISB have far limited choices compared to Lahore and even Faisalabad! Must pay a visit to Lahore and hopefully someone there can take some time from their busy schedule to guide me :wave:

On another note, I saw a Taurus .45ACP (Black with SS top frame model) last week in FSD and the asking price was 90K - it was however bigger than Stoeger and had a circle and Taurus logo at the end of the barrel. Must check what model that was. The dealer also had a stunning Taurus .357 Magnum SS Revolver with blue grip (for 90K as well) ... what a beauty to look at and hold .. primarily for competition use, decoration or collection purposes, appx 7inches long barrel.

Verve
07-07-2013, 10:56 AM
http://s2.postimage.org/c7AR9.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Tsc7AR9)

Seems you've picked up the black version of the P2500 Kabze Marine (from Tomahawk site, under 2500 series) .... beautiful weapon ... I've asked my dealer to search for one in silver, however he is recommending the Tomahawk SA-1800 Semi Auto for same price (pic: http://www.tomahawk.com.tr/sa1800.htm - carbon fill looks nice but 18" barrel is a put off), or another turkish made, name starting with S that has barrel extension from 20" to 26" that comes in 2 variants, 1 for 55k and the other for 65k. He also has a second hand Winchester pump action, but call dropped before I could get the price off him.

Verve
07-07-2013, 11:54 AM
AK47 bro, could you please email me the details of the dealer selling this pump action so that I can send a deposit for one - if he is trustworthy? My dealer has the simple version compared to the Kabze Marine version you have, and this is the one I would love to own.