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Naveed_pk
20-02-2010, 11:13 AM
Salamz,
Yesterday I bought this Germanica Combo with 18" and 28" Barrells , 8 shot @ 51 k from Hira Arms Lahore ... In accessories i got 5 chokes .. Havent tested yet will post the review when test fire it ..

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Review
Guys tested the Germanica .. Fired two tubes of all 8 shells with 18" barrell.. One with SG and one with 4 no .. No FTF and No FTE .. The recoil i feel was a little as i cant compare with anyother coz i havent fired any other semi auto .. Enjoyed a lot its Shooting ..
Conclusion : its an excellent purchase

haiderkn
20-02-2010, 11:16 AM
Great .... Congratulations bro..

Topak
20-02-2010, 11:51 AM
congrats naveed for combo... enjoy happy Shooting

Bilz111
20-02-2010, 11:58 AM
Congrats naveed br0!

AK47
20-02-2010, 12:23 PM
@Naveed...........Your pics are still downloading, I haven't seen them all yet, but from the very first glimpse, I'm clear! That's the thing, bro! Congrats. Many times. Exactly what I had been looking for too, seems you and I had exactly the same thing in mind! Beautiful.

Now, if you could post a quick review, say 25 shots or so and clear up the folding stock issue for me, I'm done. ;)

Congrats again, one beautiful item, now arrange for the twin also. ;)

Naveed_pk
20-02-2010, 12:26 PM
@Ak47 thanks a lot bro .. Pics are almost done .. u can see them know .. just refresh ure page Once ..
Regarding the folding stock i ll talk to the Gunsmith and the dealer both and get back to u with their replies :) And which one u need .. Combo or just 18"

AK47
20-02-2010, 12:38 PM
@Thanks Naveed, the Combo plz. Also check my updated post above.

Plz also clarify chamber size, 2.75/3 inches?

PrivateEye
20-02-2010, 12:45 PM
Congratulations Naveed_pk .. This is beautiful with some good finish and these are some good quality pictures.
A review is must.
Is 18" rifled?

Naveed_pk
20-02-2010, 12:45 PM
@Ak47 Sure i will book one for u ... And also clarify the size of chamber in a short time :)

Naveed_pk
20-02-2010, 12:47 PM
Congratulations Naveed_pk .. This is beautiful with some good finish and these are some good quality pictures.
A review is must.
Is 18" rifled?


Yes the pic is with 18"

PrivateEye
20-02-2010, 12:58 PM
I know sir these pics are with 18" barrel attached.
I was asking about the barrel, that is it smooth bored or rifled (with groves in it to fire slugs)

Sensei
20-02-2010, 01:01 PM
Naveed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you know what,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,brother this gun
is not close to my expectations,,,,,,,,,,, :(

Yar this is above to my axpectations buddy it has a refreshing look indeed very very nice looking gun really love to see this beauty what a stylish shotgun many many hearty congrats to you my dear for this fantastic new gun really amazing now its time to Rock http://s1.postimage.org/LGKs0.gif (http://www.postimage.org/)

Oasis
20-02-2010, 01:05 PM
AOA ..

Bohat Bohat Cong Naveed bro for ths purchase.

Thx.

Naveed_pk
20-02-2010, 01:12 PM
@Thanks a lot Sensei bro :)

wasifali89
20-02-2010, 01:33 PM
congrats

Gilani
20-02-2010, 04:17 PM
Naveed, that day in Hira Arms, I saw it written on your face "THIS IS MINE" when you showed Germanica to me. I knew its just a matter of time. Heartiest congrats bro. And please, post a range review also. Do see the pattern / spread of the slugs from 25 M, at least.
regards and safe shooting :)

Naveed_pk
20-02-2010, 04:22 PM
Thanks a lot Gilani bro .. Yes Insha Allah i will do test it at 25 M .. and will give the review :)

Starfish
20-02-2010, 04:42 PM
very nice naveed sb!
make sure to test the patten with all chokes and varied shot size i.e 4, 6 ,8 etc.

Anthrax
20-02-2010, 05:59 PM
Congratulations. Looks nice. :)

Naveed_pk
20-02-2010, 06:09 PM
Thanks @Starfish @Anthrax :)
@Starfish test it where ??? Slayer's factory :P .. He is busy in his marriage dear ... i think to review this gun we need one more invitation from Him ;)

9mm Luger
20-02-2010, 06:17 PM
congrats sir ... this piece was offered to me @71k some 1 1/2 yrs back!!

Dr Hanif Malik
20-02-2010, 06:55 PM
@naved cong for beautiful purchase:)keep hunting with bag limit:)

Rotorcrafts
20-02-2010, 07:52 PM
Wohoo..!!!

That is one mean looking shotgun with a gentle price tag. :D

Anthrax
20-02-2010, 07:54 PM
Some interesting information I found about the Germanica Shotguns on the forum:


I think all the Turkish shotguns are more or less the same, the pump actions range from 30 k to 55 k depending on finish and accessories and the repeaters / semi's range from 45 k to 85 k as you mentioned. They are decent enough performers for light use as I have personally never heard of anything going wrong with anyone's Turk Shotgun. Talking of Germanica btw I once caught a shopkeeper try to selling two gun noobs a Germanica for a 115 K convincing them about it being made in ITALY under GERMAN supervision, I was shocked at how much he was trying to rip them off as that was clearly a Turkish import. Btw the original Germanicas were made in Italy under Germanica license before it was discontinued as a model. The Turks bought the failed label and stuck it on every half decent shotgun they manufactured.

The difference between about 95 % of Turkish imports is the accessories. Some come with two barrels, (20' inch for self defense and 28' for hunting) more chokes, better stocks etc but in the end it's the same product with cosmetic variations.

takenleader
20-02-2010, 08:16 PM
congrats on u r new purchase. I guess this guns is a rebranded hatsan escort semi auto (slug combo ) . can u plz remeasure both the barrels as the ones supplied with the hatsan are 22'' slug barrel (cylinder choke) with the scope mount and 26 inches hunting barrel with the provision of chokes . The same combo of barrels are also available with pump action loading mechanism but with out the extension

regards

Denovo87
20-02-2010, 09:33 PM
Heartiest congrats naveed bro, the gun is real beauty and combo barrels make it allround shotgun. Waiting your views on performance.

Naveed_pk
20-02-2010, 09:38 PM
@takenleader @ Denovo Thanks a lot
@takenleader i am sure that the barrells are 18" and 28" but will recheck it again :)

Faheem
20-02-2010, 09:41 PM
Naveed brother mashallah its really beautifull "BANDOOQ".... :) Peace of beauty.......... shape is very attaractive & finishing is extra ordinary.

Afzaal
20-02-2010, 09:44 PM
real beauty u discovered brother.
Congrats with safe shooting.

thanks for posting awsome pics

M.ASIF KHAN
20-02-2010, 10:38 PM
A O A naveed sb
too coool gun
kindly tell what its price and wher to find it
thanks

Oasis
21-02-2010, 01:16 AM
AOA ..

bro s germanica purely German made shotgun or under licence in Turkey.

Thx.

Gangster
21-02-2010, 02:24 AM
Hey Naveed_pk,,, nice purchase... Congrats!!!
gooooood pictures.. :)

Zhatash
21-02-2010, 04:57 AM
Nice purchase naveed...
the whole package is very much similar to the Hatsan escort magnum combo, only difference i've observed is the rails & forend.... ;)
ENjoyyyyyyyyy and if u don't mind let us know bout yr photography gears..

HammadArshad
21-02-2010, 10:46 AM
@Naveed_pk Bro, congratulations on your new purchase.

Mohammad
21-02-2010, 11:19 AM
great purchase....congrats

Ali Akbar
21-02-2010, 11:29 AM
congrats NAVEED bhai on ur new purchase realyy beautiful mashallah

AK47
21-02-2010, 12:04 PM
@Naveed...........Believe you're out shooting! ;)

Btw, please see what's written on the left side of the receiver, something about "Germany", I can't quite magnify, your pics cannot be enlarged? To the best of my judgement, first word is something like somebody "Helmut", or the like, let's hear from you. :)

Sensei
21-02-2010, 12:16 PM
@AK47 brother I can enlarge the pics there is clearly written
helmut hofmann Germany :cool:

Raja_Shakeel
21-02-2010, 01:07 PM
congrats sir.

Naveed_pk
21-02-2010, 01:13 PM
@ All thanks a lot bros :)
@M.ASIF KHAN i bought it from Hira arms Lahore @ 51k
@ Sensei +1 .. Helmut Hofmann GmbH Germany

Omkhan
21-02-2010, 01:38 PM
Thats a nice purchase Naveed. I am drooling all over :P

Abbas
21-02-2010, 01:47 PM
Congratulations Naveed and nice purchase. I was quite impressed with the quality of the gun. Do let us know how it fires.

Great sticker :)

Gangster
21-02-2010, 02:02 PM
if u don't mind let us know bout yr photography gears..

I suppose it is his Sony DSC - H50 + his expert skills... ;)

Naveed_pk
21-02-2010, 02:45 PM
Thanks a lot Abbas bhai :) .. Insha Allah i will post the review as soon as i test fire it

Naveed_pk
21-02-2010, 02:48 PM
if u don't mind let us know bout yr photography gears..

I suppose it is his Sony DSC - H50 + his expert skills... ;)

Lols !!! :lol: @ Gangster ... Now u open my secret .. have to buy a new one now ;)
@Zhatash .. gangster has replied ure question .. anything more u want to know :)

Sensei
21-02-2010, 03:02 PM
Naveed dear no findings on net
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Naveed_pk
21-02-2010, 03:07 PM
yes Sensei .. I know also i spent 2 days on net to find the damn Gremanica before buying ... :(
But now it is on Net ... Know where on Pakguns .com ;)

Sensei
21-02-2010, 03:25 PM
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Sensei
21-02-2010, 03:29 PM
apart from jokes it is really nice gun well is it made in Turkey?
because I dont think any Germany made gun could be available in such reasonable price what do you say :)

Naveed_pk
21-02-2010, 03:46 PM
@Sensei Yes you are right .. Its turkish made .. the feel and finish is really very good .. :)

Naveed_pk
21-02-2010, 03:48 PM
And aslo German made guns are Over 1.20 k .. Havent seen yet any german made below 100 k

Sensei
21-02-2010, 03:56 PM
Ok,now I can ask you the question that according to 12 guage the only Turkish shotgun is Hatsan Escort whic is better then all other Turkish shotguns if it is so then could you tell me the price of Hatsan Escort Semi automatic :cool:

Naveed_pk
21-02-2010, 04:14 PM
Hatsan escort Combo is of 45k and defender is of 34 k :)

AK47
21-02-2010, 04:15 PM
@Sensei...........Bro unfortunately I got no such emoticons to express how impressed I am by yours! What a collection there, you can speak to us even without speaking a word! Wonderful "goonga" language, I must say. :lol:

@Naveed.........Bro, it may be a PR trick by the dealers to label it German, and Helmut and Hoffman are also very common German names. Yet nevertheless I'd say, the important part is that it looks good, much better than it's counterparts within the same price range, got an extra barrel with it, and if on top of that it also shoots good, well then just consider it German, Austrian, Belgian, whatsoever, it's a nice gun indeed. Let's have some firing review now, enough of talks! :)

AK47
21-02-2010, 04:27 PM
Furthermore, let me say, nobody ever called it "MADE IN GERMANY", neither is a Stoeger "MADE IN ITALY", or U.S.A. Even the packing of this gun says "German Technology" only, thus it CAN be a licensed manufactured item from Turkey.

Sensei
21-02-2010, 04:54 PM
Goonga language, well said brother Ha ha haahttp://s4.postimage.org/hmVGi.gif (http://www.postimage.org/)

Sensei
21-02-2010, 07:53 PM
@AK47 @Naveed the point is still in my mind that apart from the elegant look or super finish and great feel of Germanica the fact it is that Turkish shotguns are not as tough and durable as Baikal mp 153 though the price of both guns are almost identical
so why not one has to select a better one shotgun in terms of toughness and durability in 50k why not most trusted and well tested Baikal? if not Hatsan Escort and Stoeger
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PrivateEye
21-02-2010, 08:22 PM
@ Sensi
Its about preferences Sir. One person will go for the looks & finish and other for toughness & durability. Here in Pakistani market, where choices are very less in this price range, we have to pay some opportunity costs. :)

AK47
21-02-2010, 09:11 PM
@Sensei...........Bro, PrivateEye above touched the issue well, and furthermore, I must say, I personally only need an 18 incher for security reasons and easy portability by the use of a side-folding stock, so that it can rest and accompany me easily on a front seat.

The added barrel is more a cost saving feature, in that it saves you two items in fact: 1) An MOI license, 2) Another shotgun for hunting purposes. Thus overall 15K+40-50K!

The Baikal unfortunately is not available in 18" barrels, unless you literally "saw" it off, second the looks are not quite appealing.

As regards "robustness", well, for someone requiring it for security concerns, with occasional use only, I believe the Turk will still last long enough.

However, I agree with you, if your primarily purpose is hunting, on rugged terrains, climate, excessive and regular shooting, sure the Baikal should be considered in that case. I believe Naveed had something on the lines in the preceding para in his mind, when he decided for a Turkish one. :)

I've considered the Stoeger as well, they have excellent models, like the P-350, etc, even with "recoil absorbing" features in the butt-stocks, but of lately it wasn't available neither here nor in Lahore, and I'd consider it for sure, only problem is they only come with fixed stocks. The security type they have to offer, is, for me, unfortunately pump-action only.

As regards the Hatsan Escort, pump or semi, well, indeed it's one nice alternative, and I do still have it in my considerations as well, especially because it has 3"/76mm chamber and can therefore take the heavier loads, which the Germanica can't, but then it doesn't have any rails nor the finishing of this one, so, as you can see, it's really a hard choice for most of us, we'll get something in one type, also have to sacrifice another thing simultaneously. :)

Sensei
21-02-2010, 09:16 PM
@privateEye Ofcurse this is the matter of preference no doubt and I am not saying that he did anything wrong and actually I myself like this shotgun alots,I raise this point because I would
like to know why this gun is selected by Naveed as he knows so well the reviews of Baikal mp 153 as well as he owns Hatsan Escort himself so he is well aware already then why he chose
the Germanica, the looks and finish of the gun was the only preference of Naveed? that was my point simply :cool:

Sensei
21-02-2010, 09:32 PM
@AK47 brother your post just came first I doubt Naveed will take most of the points from your post
http://s4.postimage.org/ilBQS.gif (http://www.postimage.org/) by the way very nicely explained thanks ;)

A.Abbas
21-02-2010, 11:58 PM
Naveed beautiful gun, :) , when it is going to be range tested?

Naveed_pk
22-02-2010, 12:15 AM
@privateEye Ofcurse this is the matter of preference no doubt and I am not saying that he did anything wrong and actually I myself like this shotgun alots,I raise this point because I would
like to know why this gun is selected by Naveed as he knows so well the reviews of Baikal mp 153 as well as he owns Hatsan Escort himself so he is well aware already then why he chose
the Germanica, the looks and finish of the gun was the only preference of Naveed? that was my point simply :cool:

+1 Ak bro.. I liked the finish and its feel. And also i am not a regular hunter.. It is just for my collection..Germanica is being used by my one friend and he said that till date hi didnt have any ftf or any fte and he has fired consecative 150 Shells in 2hr .. And guess the gun was firing perfectly..after reviewing him and also 2 owners of this gun then i proceedd to buy one..

Naveed_pk
22-02-2010, 01:04 AM
@privateEye Ofcurse this is the matter of preference no doubt and I am not saying that he did anything wrong and actually I myself like this shotgun alots,I raise this point because I would
like to know why this gun is selected by Naveed as he knows so well the reviews of Baikal mp 153 as well as he owns Hatsan Escort himself so he is well aware already then why he chose
the Germanica, the looks and finish of the gun was the only preference of Naveed? that was my point simply :cool:

+1 Ak bro.. I liked the finish and its feel. And also i am not a regular hunter.. It is just for my collection..Germanica is being used by my one friend and he said that till date hi didnt have any ftf or any fte and he has fired consecative 150 Shells in 2hr .. And guess the gun was firing perfectly..after reviewing him and also 2 owners of this gun then i proceedd to buy one..

Enigmatic Desires
22-02-2010, 01:07 AM
Thats a very beutiful an well finished weapon.. I wonder if it can handle slugs?

AK47
22-02-2010, 02:31 AM
Thats a very beutiful an well finished weapon.. I wonder if it can handle slugs?

@Ed..........In my humble opinion, and I may be wrong here, but NO shotgun, if only some RARE type that I still haven't come across so far, is manufactured specifically to handle slugs, or to be used extensively with slugs.

We may have some types with rifled barrels for this job, but still I feel they are not literally meant to handle slugs extensively.

I am of the opinion that using slugs occasionally, may be possible with most shotguns inclusively of this one.

Furthermore, the use of slugs, whether with a rifled barrel or a smooth bore, not only depends upon the barrel type, but equally much upon the robustness of the receiver of the gun, coz it's ultimately this part of the shotgun that takes most of the "beating" from the increased gas pressure.

As such perhaps Turkish guns should not be used extensively for this stunt, neither the French, nor the American. Stick therefore to the Russian ones and Chinese as well, if available, for the more habitual use of slugs.

Why not use a good load of SG/LG, 00 Buckshots, etc, nice to the gun, nice to your shoulder, nice to the pocket as well! ;)

AK47
22-02-2010, 02:36 AM
@Naveed.........150 shots in 2 hours! No FTF/FTE! Well that sounds really nice bro, that friend of yours must be included here on PG, we need someone like that for occasional torture tests/reviews. ;)

I'm impressed so far, let's have your personal impression too, soon.

LionHeart
22-02-2010, 08:17 AM
@Naveed:

Brother So it was the piece you were talking about that day. So brother accept many heartiest congratulation for buying this beauty .... Mashallah such a nice looking gun and hope it will shoot as nicely as it looks...... By the Way Nice Photos as well so now waiting for the nice review along with shoot out videos (If possible).

regards,

Zhatash
22-02-2010, 09:56 AM
if u don't mind let us know bout yr photography gears..

I suppose it is his Sony DSC - H50 + his expert skills... ;)

Lols !!! :lol: @ Gangster ... Now u open my secret .. have to buy a new one now ;)
@Zhatash .. gangster has replied ure question .. anything more u want to know :)

Yeah one more querry about the tube extension of germanica, Is it metal or some other material?
Nice camera Buddy :)

Naveed_pk
22-02-2010, 10:57 AM
@Thanks ED and Lionheart ..
@lionheart yes i will try to make movies if possible
@Zhatash No, the extension tube is not of metal , its of Plastic

LionHeart
22-02-2010, 11:03 AM
@Naveed.........150 shots in 2 hours! No FTF/FTE! Well that sounds really nice bro, that friend of yours must be included here on PG, we need someone like that for occasional torture tests/reviews. ;)

I'm impressed so far, let's have your personal impression too, soon.


@AK47 Brother ..... 150 shots in 2 hours ... I suppose this will not be any problem for Naveed and I am sure he will shot 200 in less then 2 hours If He will be using his trusted Sony Camera. .... :lol:


@Naveed Brother: Am I Right ?

Naveed_pk
22-02-2010, 11:05 AM
Lols !!! 200 in 2hrs .. looks i have to do a torture test of my new gun :/ ..

Faisal Bakhtiar
23-02-2010, 05:26 PM
Congrats Naveed Sahib, when we are going on hunting :)
BTW i will come for my CD remember

A.Abbas
23-02-2010, 10:06 PM
Naveed a bit off topic query, what is SG rate with your dealer, I am looking for 4.

GhulamMurtaza
24-02-2010, 02:40 AM
Naveed_pk bro i liked it nice gun, but did you get the view finder with it because the 18" barrel has a rail on upper side it is for view finder, i am talking about it because of i was also buying Germanica but the dealer said to me that i have to pay 5k more for it due this the deal was cancled and then i bought Escort.

Naveed_pk
24-02-2010, 10:55 AM
@Faisal Bakhtiar thanks a lot sir :) Regarding Cd always welcome ... if u say i can send it to u .. let me know
@A.Abbas .. bro Shaheen SG 1000 rs and Shaheen 4 no 900 rs
@GhulamMurtaza .. No bro i didnt got the view finder/ scope with it .. that is not in the deal .. u have to pay extra for that

Naveed_pk
24-02-2010, 11:05 AM
Review
Guys tested the Germanica .. Fired two tubes of all 8 shells with 18" barrell.. One with SG and one with 4 no .. No FTF and No FTE .. The recoil i feel was a little as i cant compare with anyother coz i havent fired any other semi auto .. Enjoyed a lot its Shooting ..
Conclusion : its an excellent purchase , :)

AK47
24-02-2010, 12:24 PM
Thanks Naveed for the pre-visit review. ;)

LionHeart
24-02-2010, 02:53 PM
Naveed brother thanks for this review's preview .... but where are the clips ?

AK47
25-02-2010, 12:21 AM
@Lionheart bro......Naveed is TOO busy to post clips, just talked to him over the phone, think he was saying something about another few "tubes" of the Germanica to be emptied this eve!

Sensei
25-02-2010, 04:35 AM
sounds good it means more actions on the way soon ;)
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LionHeart
25-02-2010, 08:59 AM
@AK47:

Thanks for the info about Naveed's germanica and i will wait for that ..... btw this what happened to your box mag shotgun?

regards,

Naveed_pk
25-02-2010, 12:21 PM
Yes Ak47 U are right .. I was just going at that time to test it again for my satisfaction when i received ure call .. Yes I tested it once again Fired One box of 4 no ... Fired 8 (shells)*3 times full tube =24 .. And then tested Shaeen SG Fired 7(shells)*3 times = 21 ... Total i tested 45 shells .. No FTF and No FTE .. :)

Naveed_pk
25-02-2010, 12:22 PM
@lionheart i diidnt able to make the clips due to low light :( .. I will post the movies whenever i shoot in the morning session :)

Sensei
25-02-2010, 12:36 PM
Lu ji kar lo gal, it means more wait http://s4.postimage.org/sSZmr.gif (http://www.postimage.org/)

DrNagi68
25-02-2010, 03:08 PM
@naveed-pk and other friends.
NEED YOUR ADVICE.
I just got a licence for a NPB weapon and am interested in buying a shot gun(Repeater/pump action).Budget is 100,000. Need expert advice ,which one is the best available shotgun in this price range in lahore market.
Purpose : Sport/home security both.
Many Thanks
Dr.Nagi

LionHeart
25-02-2010, 03:26 PM
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Ok as you wish .... http://gfxlovers.com/smilies/imgs/confused/confused002.gif (http://gfxlovers.com/smilies)

Sensei
25-02-2010, 03:57 PM
@Dr.Nagi welcome to Pakgun at first I request you to plz edit you email address as it is not required at initial stage it is also
against the rules of the forum you may give it only for a short time if it would be required,
now it sounds great that you have good a budget for a shotgun
I am sure there are many options lets see what the seniors and
experts will suggest stay tune

Sensei
28-02-2010, 04:41 PM
http://s4.postimage.org/CJ740.gif (http://www.postimage.org/) Videos ?

Naveed_pk
01-03-2010, 12:46 PM
LoLs !!!! Sensei bro .. As u know no Range available for me to make the movies ... Thats why too late .. I will post as i get a chance too visit any range ... :)

Salahuddin Ayubi
01-03-2010, 03:08 PM
Many Congratulations Naveed on your excellent purchase. Really like it based on the snaps and your reviews.

Naveed_pk
08-03-2010, 02:44 PM
Thanks a lot SA bro .. :)

Naveed_pk
08-03-2010, 02:50 PM
Salamz,
Much awaited movies for Germanica .. Esp for Sensei bro :) .. This sunday i fired 3 boxes.. 1 box of Shaheen no 4, 1 Shaheen no 6, 1 Shaeen SG .. Only One FTF found ..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRvs9d5Ak4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWbm7gzYa0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT9Ung65vls

pakistanishekari
08-03-2010, 07:00 PM
i wan to buy any gamo air gun any one can contacts mo pakistanishekari@gmail.com

pakistanishekari
08-03-2010, 07:07 PM
i have diana air guns 50 45 and 35 classicfor sale if any 1 want to buy contact me ***********

Denovo87
08-03-2010, 07:21 PM
Welcome brother Pakistanishekari, why dont you check section "market place" to buy Gamo airgun and post your Dianas for sale?

Taurus
08-03-2010, 07:59 PM
@Pakistani Shikari :- Welcome to pakguns, Kindly Introduce yourself first on the topic welcome to pakguns in Intro and write abt what u want to buy in market place

Mitho
08-03-2010, 09:37 PM
@naveedpk
in 3 clip there was a failure to fire or eject?
did the pin strike the primer?

PrivateEye
08-03-2010, 10:04 PM
@ Sensi
Sir even i didnt mention anything of u saying that Naveed made a wrong choice .. that was just a comment, infact my cry for less choices we have here :( .. lol
And yes .. this is a great looking shotgun .. and this extra barrel heats up the deal (Y)
i also have a license ready .. just not getting enough time to look for a good deal in the market. and more than that it will be my first experience .. a bit afraid though! :S

Naveed_pk
09-03-2010, 12:12 AM
@naveedpk
in 3 clip there was a failure to fire or eject?
did the pin strike the primer?
@mitho that was FTF.. yes the pin pin striked the primer but it didnt fired

Sensei
09-03-2010, 12:45 AM
@Naveed sorry for watching your videos bit late as I had spent more time on Stoeger cougar thread in last two days and I really missed you there, any way its so nice to see you shooting with your new Germanica though there was a FTF but its not such a big deal it happens with guns its the part of the game I love to see you firing with this gun well done and Ya thanks alots for dedicate these videos to me thanks my friend http://s1.postimage.org/B2mvS.gif (http://www.postimage.org/)

Naveed_pk
09-03-2010, 10:32 AM
Welcome Sensei bro .. Yes their was an FTF but i think that was due to Shell ... Coz firing pin striked the shell but it didnt fired ..

Sensei
09-03-2010, 11:14 AM
Naveed plz do post some nices pics of both of your Shotguns
Hatsan and Germanica as standing together sitting together
and laying together it would be nice to seehttp://s4.postimage.org/akwH0.gif (http://www.postimage.org/)

Naveed_pk
09-03-2010, 11:20 AM
Sensei ... PLz check the link ... just posted
http://www.pakguns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=842&p=2

Sensei
09-03-2010, 12:52 PM
@Naveed I really missed the show my bad really so nice to see thanks alots :cool:

GhulamMurtaza
18-03-2010, 02:16 AM
nice video bro keep it up.

lascharie
30-04-2010, 02:59 AM
congrats, i got one for myself for a 60k price tag, hopefully it is worth IT!
please inform about hunting results

Aquarius
30-04-2010, 12:33 PM
Congratulations on your new purchase lascharie brother.. would like to see some pictures as well.... :)

Andy
12-06-2010, 02:41 PM
i bought ESCORT from same dealer and there is no defence.. it even got same defender barrel .

Topak
12-06-2010, 03:21 PM
Andy brother...welcome to pak Guns.
please introduce your self in introduction section.
good to see a new member from Gujranwala

TANVEER KALWAR
12-06-2010, 06:50 PM
QUESTION FOR SHOTGUNS EXPERTS

I have seen a DBBL Shotgun at Ghotki Sindh the barrels were 26'' and at the side of gun "ESPECIALLY MADE FOR CHARLE's AND SONS" England was written in golden writtings. The condition of gun is 95% and the owner id demanding 350k. Anyone tell me actual price of that gun? . I m waiting for guidance........

Afzaal
12-06-2010, 06:55 PM
Welcome to pg Khawar Please update your location.

i would have prefer Beretta Over Under 68 Series in this Price range.

Sorry but i don't have idea of Price of ur said Gun.

Tipu
13-06-2010, 02:31 AM
AOA
Nice gun bro thanks for the pics.enjoy shouting.could you plz mantion its price

TANVEER KALWAR
13-06-2010, 05:34 PM
@ AFZAL
@ Tipu

Thanks Brother.

ali110
27-01-2011, 10:48 PM
I bought a Germinca shot gun a few weeks back
Fired about 300 shells so far ,It is performing very well
No any problem i have faced.
Very Low Kick back and it is realy Quick .

Mitho
28-01-2011, 02:02 PM
@naveed pk
sir how is it still performing.whats the count on it?

AK47
28-01-2011, 02:09 PM
A pair of mallards from 80 mtrs, last it was out, lols! Let Naveed answer himself, but of what I know, the piece is flawless.

Regards.

Naveed_pk
28-01-2011, 03:30 PM
@ Ak47 bro Lols !!! Yes sir its working absoloutley fine .. No Hassles so far . I have used twice on hunt , fired almost 250 shells in these 2 sessions .. Not a single FTF or FTE :)

Silent killerr
28-01-2011, 08:16 PM
Congrats bro, Nice purchase as well as pics

Waqas
30-01-2011, 10:28 PM
cong naveed bhai for a reliable and beautiful purchase :) too late

Naveed_pk
31-01-2011, 10:40 AM
Thanks Sk and Waqas :)

wasifali89
31-01-2011, 09:41 PM
where are the videos ?

help me in finding them

Naveed_pk
01-02-2011, 11:27 AM
@wasif here are the videos : :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRvs9d5Ak4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRvs9d5Ak4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWbm7gzYa0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWbm7gzYa0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT9Ung65vls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT9Ung65vls)

Mohammad
02-02-2011, 12:43 PM
sorry for my ignorance in this regard...... is this made in germany or turkey(as stoeger is made)

Naveed_pk
02-02-2011, 04:14 PM
@ Mohammad its turkish made :)

aamir01
06-02-2011, 12:34 PM
a true beuty
what is the range of gun and price?

zarar
06-02-2011, 11:04 PM
@ Naveed_Pk i just go through all seven pages...... where is the review???? you mention this in the subject!

ali110
07-02-2011, 12:56 AM
To My respectful PG friends
I have this Germanica semi auto ,i have fired over 250 Shells ,No any problem so far ,It is lovely Shotgun wth Low Kickback and an excellent accuracy ,I bought it in 60,000 from hyderabad ,I was thinking about its real Origin i had a short discussion wth the dealer and he said it is Origional German but came from turkish track becoz of the High Duty/Tax of Europe and importer didnt want to pay a Big amonut of Money for tax.
Some of My friends and relatives have Turkish shotguns and there is a QualityDiffrence between Germanica, Akkar and hatsan,Germanica's Quality and performance is many times better than Turkish products .

zarar
07-02-2011, 09:35 AM
Regardless of the origin, the import duty and taxes remains same.

M.ASIF KHAN
11-02-2011, 07:51 AM
nice gun you have dear German workmen ship is one of the best

Sensei
11-02-2011, 08:19 AM
nice gun you have dear German workmen ship is one of the best

well I guess its not made in Germany(Germanica)but it is purely a Turkish brand,we all knows our dealers well,,lol
but the Turkish Germanica is also a very nice looking shotgun so many congrats to Ali110for your new shot gun few pics of this beauty would be highly appreciated

JawadKhanJadoon
11-02-2011, 08:31 AM
My cousin have this Germanica and I have shot about 75 rounds in one sitting almost without any rest, and total shot about 250 through it (rest were fired in second session without any cleaning) without any malfunction, FTE or FTF. But the only problem is that we procured it last year from Abbottabad in 55K without any extra barrel and chokes etc. The dealer was United Traders (Esa Gee and Sons) :(

wasifali89
17-02-2011, 11:16 AM
@wasif here are the videos : :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRvs9d5Ak4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YRvs9d5Ak4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWbm7gzYa0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLWbm7gzYa0)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT9Ung65vls (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT9Ung65vls)

wonderfull

aschandio
18-02-2011, 11:08 AM
Naveed bhai what u were shooting at in these videos

wasifali89
19-02-2011, 01:37 PM
@naveed bro

why was the eject needed ?

the cartridge dint fire off ?

wasifali89
19-02-2011, 01:38 PM
well I guess its not made in Germany(Germanica)but it is purely a Turkish brand,we all knows our dealers well,,lol
but the Turkish Germanica is also a very nice looking shotgun so many congrats to Ali110for your new shot gun few pics of this beauty would be highly appreciated

i was once mislead by a dealer that this is a GERMAN arm, then a fellow PG member helped in clarifying

BaderJanjua
20-02-2011, 11:25 AM
Mubarik, however why Germanica and Hatsan Escort packing is exactly the same including the box

aschandio
21-02-2011, 12:25 PM
Mubarik, however why Germanica and Hatsan Escort packing is exactly the same including the box

Badar bro rightly mentioned indeed they are identical when i bought escort by Hatsan i asked the same question from the dealer (very well known) but he said Germanica is a German Manufactured gun but i got suspicious and then Ch arms ppl told me the whole story.

sayyedain
23-02-2011, 05:50 PM
Heartiest congrats naveed bro

hunter468
24-02-2011, 01:27 PM
@ Naveed_Pk i just go through all seven pages...... where is the review???? you mention this in the subject!

....................lolz

AL Nasir
24-02-2011, 01:35 PM
Nice Shot gun

shahroze
18-06-2013, 10:22 AM
excuse me for digging this old thread but does it fire slugs ?
and how do you compare it with escort magnum ?