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Abbas
14-02-2010, 08:12 PM
Salams, today I had a chance to do a quick review of the Norinco NP 44 which is a Chinese clone of the 1911. I'm surprised no one has reviewed it at PakGuns as yet, I only took a casual look at it to add to what I thought was a previously existing review.

The gun itself is of average build quality, heavy and thick. It is chambered for .45 ACP and holds 14 rounds, while that may sound like a lot of power, the added magazine capacity takes away from the 1911 what was it's amazing natural pointability and easy to grasp thin grip. The double stack makes the grip annoying 'phat' so much so that I could not reach the slide realize with my thumb ! The back sight is good but the front sight is a little thin making one strain to align the sights.

I shot a couple of rounds though it and firing and ejection was okay, felt slightly more recoil than the Taurus 1911 which was surprising since this is the heavier gun. The safety is ambidextrous but not comfortable at all to operate, it does move up to lock the slide but does not click into place immediately the way it should, requires some force. This will result in mistakes and accidents with it as users will think the safety is on whereas it will only be half way. Safe to fire however works fine and can be easily done using downward movement of the thumb. The grip safety also seemed a little iffy.

Norinco has drilled holes in the trigger to perhaps make it lighter, which is amusing because that would have made little difference to an already heavy gun. The trigger is average and will take 2/3 shots to get used to. The pistol itself is decently accurate.

Below are some quick pictures I took at the range, I was also shooting my Taurus 1911 today so could make a fair comparison.

Thank you very much to Omer for lending me his gun.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/NP44.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/NP441.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/NP442.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/NP443.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/NP444.jpg

Notice the thickness of the magazine and grips in the next two pictures.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/NP445.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/NP446.jpg

A couple of shots at 10 M.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/NP447.jpg

Rotorcrafts
14-02-2010, 08:18 PM
Good reveiw abbas bhai and yes that is one thick mag well.

Faisji
14-02-2010, 08:53 PM
Compared to Taurus like this it looks like it fell out of the UGLY tree and hit every branch on the way down.

Taurus
14-02-2010, 09:29 PM
Its metallurgy is gr8 but double stack makes the grip quite un handy...would say something compared to taurus abt the trigger balance sights accuracy and recoil ...trigger wins hands down while i feel the metallurgy of np44 is better than taurus

Gilani
14-02-2010, 10:05 PM
Abbas sahib, as usual, a very nice and informative review. And i fully agree, fattening of the magazine really takes the sting out of a 1911. Norinco website mentions a 1911 in traditional 7 round magazine and is obviously a lot thinner (about 9 mm thinner than NP44). Plus, its in a stainless finish and has far better looks. :)
regards

Mitho
14-02-2010, 10:11 PM
theres also a norinco model np30 with 10 rounds capacity single stack.that would be more practicle than np44.
second can anyone explain me what is a grip safety?

Fund manager
14-02-2010, 10:19 PM
Friends,

I accidently bumped into the site below:

http://www.websiteoutlook.com/www.pakguns.com

Seems that we are being watched and priced. However, the site is doing really well if the market value of pakguns is above US$ 160,000.

@Mods; Sorry I was unable to post this in a seperate thread.

Chio,

KageFox
14-02-2010, 10:34 PM
Nice writeup and photos Abbas bhai. When I saw the mag, I though it was lying on its flat side. Upon closer examination, I realized the fatness of the mag.... shocked! Looks ugly, at least compared to the Taurus, though had it not been for the fat mag, it would have made for a good start in a 1911 collection, since it can be customized later on, according to needs and requirements...

Ka_Khan
14-02-2010, 10:56 PM
Nice review and pics Abbas.Seems you have lot of time these days getting us valuable information and reviews :)

Abbas
15-02-2010, 02:01 PM
Compared to Taurus like this it looks like it fell out of the UGLY tree and hit every branch on the way down.

Lol, that was a good description :lol:

@Ka_Khan Seems lots of guns crossing my paths these days and am in a writing mood !

@Taurus Please share with us anything about it metallurgy that we don't know about.

Anthrax
15-02-2010, 03:58 PM
Nice review! But I for one like the 1911 clone. For its price, it looks well built. Not only that, who wouldn't want 14 rounds of .45 ACP in a single mag? ;)

LionHeart
15-02-2010, 04:44 PM
Nice Review Abbas Bhai, what i like the most in this particular review is to compare this NP44 with Taurus 1911 so after reading this review I have a question:

After experiencing this Norinco 1911 (14 cap mag) what would you preferred this NP44 or any other 1911? in General preferences. As I understood from your review this is an average build pistol with decent accuracy and having more firepower then anyother 1911.... Right ?

Thanks for Sharing an other good review and as-usual great both types of shooting.

regards,

Abbas
15-02-2010, 06:52 PM
The NP44 is an average pistol in my opinion, I think it's more of a Hybrid experiment rather than anything else. Living in Pakistan .45 cal cheap handguns are an oxymoron since the .45 round itself sells for Rs. 70 +. That means in less than 700 shots you spend more on ammo than the gun itself is worth. Ofcourse anyone not fond of firing and only using it for home defense might find it useful to have 14 rounds of .45 in hand. The only problem is occasional shooters keep the same handgun for home defense and carry. Carrying the NP44 requires that you have a healthy breakfast in the morning before you leave home :)

I have a personal preference for the Taurus 1911 as I think it's better than any other 1911 variant under 300 K or 1000 USD. I had many opportunities to change my Taurus with a Colt or Remington made 1911 and I did not even think about it. I believe the only comparable and better pieces 1911's are customs jobs and made and tuned by companies such as Para ordinance, Kimber, Les Baer etc. InshAllah soon HJ will be getting a high quality 1911, then we'll be able to see what a high quality 1911 really is.

Guns should be judged on their finish and performance rather than what is written on the slide. The Taurus 1911 and the Taurus PT 99 are two of the BEST guns in the world in ANY price bracket.

LionHeart
16-02-2010, 09:16 AM
Thanks for the details answer/review and yes you said right every gun should be judged on their fishish and performance. So Taurus 1911 as well as PT99 are the winner on many aspects.

Thanks a lot and regards,

Samir
16-02-2010, 06:05 PM
where did you get that taurus .45?

Muhammad Musharraf
17-02-2010, 02:39 AM
Thanks Abbas Bhai for the review I have a stupid question again what about a Norinco 1911 Single stack Mag I'll Try uploading Pics here I saw it at a friends place few years back never took it in hand nor saw him fire it off but look a real beauty and well made

Muhammad Musharraf
17-02-2010, 02:54 AM
I happen to have this in my PC folder :rolleyes: O what the hack this is the reason i joined PG ine the first place and to know more about it but its not mine i downloaded it from google like year and a half back :D i don't know you guy may or may not agree this is awesome to me at least :D


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Gilani
17-02-2010, 06:45 PM
1911A1 by Norinco is indeed a beautiful handgun. I would personally prefer it over NP44. :)

RazaRajpoot
21-02-2010, 12:39 PM
Very Nice Pic great doing job

Enigmatic Desires
21-02-2010, 07:40 PM
the purpose of the .45 round is to make sure it get teh job done in 7 rounds.. given a choice i think i would prefer a 9mm double column over teh .45

wasifali89
22-02-2010, 01:18 AM
any idea on the price ?
how much does it cost ?

TYR
12-03-2010, 02:18 PM
I bought this weapon for 50 Ks. And I love it!!! :D

Having said that yes it is bulky and 'phat' as Abbas puts it but you just cant beat the fire power. The 9mm is a pea shooter infront of the mighty .45 but thats caliber talk and not relevent here.

BTW its not a hybrid, its rather a copy of the PARA NITE TAC series. (its a 90% copy, leaving out the evolved extractor of the PARA pistols and other cosmetics)

The reason why the NP44 or or NITE TAC is so heavy is becoz of the ballistics involved when shooting a .45 cartrige. it generates so much power that the pistol needs to be weighty with a strong slide.

I am a big big 1911 fan and after having kept a Berretta 92, Sig P226, Glock 17, Ruger etc, I just fell in love with the 1911 the first time I shot it. As abbas mentioned it is such a beautifull simple design, which is why it is still going strong even with the advent o the "Plastic tuperware guns" (sorry guys no offense to the glock lovers ;))

The NP44 is no target quality match pistol. It is a true battle/combat pistol. and serves its role well. it is rugged and fugly, but its a real good pistol. and i believe that UTILITY SHOULD BE THE CRITERIA OF BEAUTY, not how 'cute' a gun looks.

I beg to differ with Abbas regarding the safety switch. I feel it is adequetly tight and CLICKS INTO PLACE quite ok.

The down side is that the grip is no good for people with small hands. Personally for me its great. for every day carry its heavy and cumbersome and takes a little getting used to.

Just thought I'd mention that the NITE TAC pistol was one of the top contenders of the JOINT COMBAT PISTOL PROGRAM. it was run by the US ARMY SPECIAL OPERATIONS COMMAND to find a new service pistol for the US forces and SPEC OPS units. the program had to be shut down because of unavailability of funds ( Yes guys, AMERICA is going bankrupt :lol: ) A large variety of .45 ACP pistols were entered into the competition. These include the

Heckler & Koch HK45
SIG P220 Combat
Ruger P345
Smith & Wesson M&P
Glock 21SF
Beretta Px4 Storm
Taurus PT 24/7 OSS
Fabrique Nationale FNP45-USG
Springfield Armory XD 45
Para-Ordnance LDA 1911

Last but not least, Nothing and i mean NOTHING beats 14+1 rounds of .45 in a good pistol when u need it.

Haider Shah
12-03-2010, 04:00 PM
Nice review, well can some one enlight viewers on its availability at Lahore and the price matches this monster . I have also heard that Philpines made ammo of .45 is available in the market for Rs=45/-and works satisfactorily?
Plz also put me wise if some particular aspects needs to be catered for especially going for NP-44, any FTF/ FTE experiences ?
Does any Norinco model has the rail or any such provision to add on Tactical light at later stage ?

At Lahore any shop holding C-96 Broom Handle ? Regards

Mitho
12-03-2010, 08:52 PM
@TYR
where did u buy ur np44?n when?

Haider Shah
13-03-2010, 11:37 AM
The response may lead to the conclusion that viewers have yet to build their mind for certain odds.

Bullseye
13-03-2010, 12:53 PM
Available in Karachi for 60K. But its one ugly weapon. No finese at ALL. But thats just my opinion.

Aquarius
13-03-2010, 04:18 PM
Available in Karachi for 60K. But its one ugly weapon. No finese at ALL. But thats just my opinion.

+1 Bullseye bro...... & I must say 60K is too high for this handgun.... If one really likes 1911 clones in agood price range, then add a little more & go for Taurus PT 1911......... thats one nice piece...........

TYR
16-03-2010, 03:18 PM
Bought it a year or a year and a half back.

This pistol is not for the "plastic gun" enthusiast. You gotta understand the 1911 design and history to appreciate this monster.

If Im off to battle, give me a 1911 any day over any pistol!!!! :cool:

acidzero8
03-04-2010, 03:32 AM
salam,
guy where can i find it in karachi ?
and how much is .45 acp round theses days?
please clear i thing difference between
Np44 and 1911A1
thx for the help in advance

Salahuddin Ayubi
03-04-2010, 08:49 AM
.45 ACP @ 80/round Armscor in Saddar Karachi

In between 65 and 90 in other cities of Pakistan depending on where you are.

Gilani
03-04-2010, 08:47 PM
please clear i thing difference between
Np44 and 1911A1

acidzero8 brother, Norinco 1911A1 is a standard 1911 with 7 round capacity, having dimensions of 218x137x33.5 mm . It has stainless finish and wooden grips. Looks quite nice and elegant.

NP44 is a high capacity 1911 from Norinco having dimensions of 221x150x42 mm. Because of double stack magazine, it no more retains the classic shape of a 1911 and the grip portion of the pistol becomes quite wide; hence ugly looking. It has a blued finish and plastic grips.

PS: data taken from Norinco website.

acidzero8
07-04-2010, 02:19 AM
thx for the kind replys
can u please guide me which dealers has "new" np44 in karachi !!
ill give them the visit tom
and price if u know
thx in advance!

AK-12
11-02-2014, 05:18 PM
i bought my NP44 slightly used with 3 mags @ 45000 Pkr 2 years ago........ do u think thats a good price?? previous owner has fired only 60 rounds.

Hamza Bashir
11-02-2014, 05:37 PM
Yes sir a very good price considering todays prices. But a year and a half back it was about 50-55k NIB.

Enigmatic Desires
12-02-2014, 11:05 AM
i bought my NP44 slightly used with 3 mags @ 45000 Pkr 2 years ago........ do u think thats a good price?? previous owner has fired only 60 rounds.

with 3 mags yes. it was a decent price.