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Kulachi
23-02-2009, 09:30 AM
I just bought this handgun on Saturday, took it to the range and fired 50 rounds through it. Except for the trademark slimy Chinese grease, it was a superb fire. I want to buy another one but the dealer says that they are short in the market now.

http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu41/Gandapur/22022009305.jpg

Nabeel
23-02-2009, 11:01 AM
i think its np22

Acciprone
23-02-2009, 11:05 AM
i think its np22


YUP it's the NP22 , The NP34 is compact and according to the retailer it has some minor upgrades/better version than the NP22

Balazona
23-02-2009, 11:13 AM
Yes,this is another version of NP-22.may be it has modified slide rails.it was availble at Oriant traders in Lahore for 45K in Oct last year.

Nabeel
23-02-2009, 11:14 AM
price of np22 and np34?

Abbas
23-02-2009, 11:16 AM
I like the way you took the picture. Very nice.

Kulachi
23-02-2009, 11:28 AM
Thanks!

Ahmad
23-02-2009, 12:46 PM
It is same like np but with out norinco markings

Firepower!
23-02-2009, 02:02 PM
The heading says HP77B

Kulachi
23-02-2009, 02:10 PM
Someone told me it was from State Factory 66 or something. I searched the net but could not find any clue.

Acciprone
23-02-2009, 02:39 PM
Someone told me it was from State Factory 66 or something. I searched the net but could not find any clue.


how much did u pay for it ?

Kulachi
23-02-2009, 02:49 PM
I paid 42,500/-.

Acciprone
23-02-2009, 08:14 PM
Just wanted to share with you guys that i bought the NP-34 today. And changed the stock grip with a Hogue Grip. I paid 45k for it.

http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq147/acciprone2009/DSC00680.jpg
http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq147/acciprone2009/DSC00671-1.jpg

Nabeel
23-02-2009, 08:30 PM
nice gun

Acciprone
23-02-2009, 08:37 PM
i hope its as nice as the np22... will take it to the range saturday.. i am keeping my fingers crossed

Nabeel
23-02-2009, 08:40 PM
best of luck

Balazona
23-02-2009, 09:03 PM
Acciprone,Congratulations brother on ur new purchase.

Acciprone
23-02-2009, 09:13 PM
Thanks... i cant wait to take it to the range.. hope it lives up to the reputation.

I have a novice question for you guys.. is it advisable to clean the excess grease from a brand new gun..

Nabeel
23-02-2009, 09:23 PM
yes

Balazona
23-02-2009, 09:23 PM
of course yes,u have to feild strip the gun and clean it with a good solvant if availble otherwise u can use WD-40.then lube it well.specially the frame slide rails.and remove ur rubber grips before cleaning.

Acciprone
23-02-2009, 09:27 PM
a good solvant if availble otherwise u can use WD-40.

what good solvent.. cause i did clean it as soon as a bought .. just got a feeling that on ejection it might jam.. took the slide back and fort to eject the ammo.. it didnt feel smooth .. but could be my imagination. will do a through check at the range ... and recomendations

Balazona
23-02-2009, 09:35 PM
The Best CLP, is Breakfree CLP.but it is not availble in Pakistan.regarding slide frame smoothness,slide will be smooth after range session.

Abbas
24-02-2009, 12:54 AM
Congratulations, looks great !

Kulachi
24-02-2009, 09:55 AM
Use Hopps No. 9 Solvent, Oil, and Grease. You can find them at any good store here is Karachi.

Balazona
02-03-2009, 09:38 PM
Kulachi,i need ur help here.in the following pics u can see two locking blocks.this locking block is located in the frame as u know.i want to know that ur HP77B has which one.i will appreciate.

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/balazona/SigNP22blocks.jpg

Balazona
02-03-2009, 10:01 PM
Here is another pic for the location of the locking block.i hope this will help.
http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww109/balazona/NP-22framemodifications.jpg

Kulachi
03-03-2009, 11:48 AM
Let me check it when I get back home. Will let you know this evening. By the way what is special about this locking block?

Balazona
03-03-2009, 11:50 AM
The right side locking block with rails in first pic,it is modified one which support the sliding rails on the frame.

Kulachi
03-03-2009, 10:51 PM
It's the one on the right side. And sorry for the late reply, it was a difficult day.

Balazona
04-03-2009, 08:32 AM
Thats GR8.it is a modified locking block which supports the sliding rails dn the frame.chinese tested the pistol after this block and it fired 15000 rounds easily with out any rails cracking.

Silent killerr
17-10-2009, 06:16 PM
congrats

Glocky
17-10-2009, 06:27 PM
congrats

Unfortunately daer ayee durust ayee is not aplicable here mate :rolleyes: 7 months old thread

Malik1
17-10-2009, 10:31 PM
I agree this time mate :)

Sharp Shooter
18-10-2009, 11:29 AM
a friend of mine has an HP77B and is very satisfied with it. No problems so far. I think hez used it for 400+ rounds till yet both with federal and chinese ammo.

Ahmad
18-10-2009, 11:45 AM
what is the on going price of newly imported HP 77B in lahore & karachi.

Sunny
23-10-2009, 11:38 AM
@Ahmad,
price is Rs 45K.it is available at Orient traders Lahore.

Ahmad
23-10-2009, 12:34 PM
Well they are available around 35k now a days

Adeel Ahmad
23-10-2009, 12:41 PM
Yeah Ahmad Bhai is correct about the price. Man this dealer seems to be giving the best prices. Only trouble is not much room for bargain.

Sunny
23-10-2009, 12:43 PM
@Ahmad,
is 35K price at Orient traders?

Ahmad
23-10-2009, 04:26 PM
@ sunny it was not orient traders not even lahore, i was thinking that prices of lahore will be less than thirty.
@adeel you are very right brother, although i have a horrible time listening him

Sunny
23-10-2009, 05:40 PM
I will post the latest rate of HP77B soon.

Adeel Ahmad
23-10-2009, 06:18 PM
@ sunny it was not orient traders not even lahore, i was thinking that prices of lahore will be less than thirty.
@adeel you are very right brother, although i have a horrible time listening him
Yeah listening to his Father is a pain and i can feel for you. I think we should put up a fee for making a trip to his shop. I see one coming up in the future by Mustanir Bhai.

takenleader
03-01-2010, 01:00 AM
asak

dear members i wish to have some valuable input from u learned members . A friend of mine wants to buy this pistol hp77b . we looked at the gun its just like the np 22 minus the norinco logo etc . I was just wondering that is this gun hp77b inferior quality to the np22 . Just like the cf 98 kinda thing . What the hell is going on one gun with 2 names and a price diff of 10000 rs . I was quoted 30000 for the hp77b . can u plz elaborate on this issue . And last but not the least how would u compare it with the cf 98 .

AK47
03-01-2010, 08:57 AM
@takenleader.......There is heck of difference between the CF-98 and HP 77B/ NP22! One is a tank (the NP22), other is a Mehran(CF-98), as far as term of solidity and robustness is concerned! You can't compare these two items.

I would say at 30K it's ONE FAVORABLE RATE!

As regards different stamps, well, that's basically for export to different countries. Same things.

khurram malik
03-01-2010, 04:43 PM
hello everone
i like this forum.

khurram malik
03-01-2010, 04:51 PM
FOR ASAK,

No difference between np22 and hp77b pistols.china Change the name of pistol for pakistan but both pistols are being made in same factory,same material

Gilani
03-01-2010, 05:29 PM
@takenleader.......There is heck of difference between the CF-98 and HP 77B/ NP22! One is a tank (the NP22), other is a Mehran(CF-98), as far as term of solidity and robustness is concerned! You can't compare these two items.

AK47 Sir: I think you are under rating CF98 too much. :) Though a virtual copy, HP77B is no Sig P226. I have extensively fired these two pistols as well as NP22 (around 2000 rounds with three of them). All three are good pistols in this price range but CF98 is certainly more accurate out of three, specially at longer ranges. Its light and easy to carry. HP77B is heavy and quite difficult to carry. I once carried it all day in a thigh holster and it was not a comfortable experience at all. With two full magazines, it was quite a weight.

But as the shopkeeper told me about HP77B, " Sir je, Loha he loha.". On this criterion, HP77B certainly wins. NP22 has better finish than HP77B and is lighter in weight.

As for the prize, we all know in Pakistan its a market availability issue and does not necessarily indicate the difference in quality. Even CF98 was selling at around 45000 sometime back.

regards

AK47
03-01-2010, 06:12 PM
@Gilani Sb..........You're absolutely right with regards to the "accuracy" issue and 'weight" issue. And indeed, it would give some backache when carried all day, in the begining even My Cougar used to trouble me, yet I've been accustomed now.

Anyhow, I was also only discussing the "loha" issue and indeed it's one solid item. You're right about prices variation.

Getfaizi
09-06-2010, 12:38 PM
what is the brand name of HP77b i am sure it isnt by Nornico ? Anybody knows the company name ?????

SPAYPANTHER
10-06-2010, 10:19 AM
what is the brand name of HP77b i am sure it isnt by Nornico ? Anybody knows the company name ?????
100+1% norinco made

Getfaizi
10-06-2010, 11:23 AM
But i have not seen any hp77b with norinco mark.... i have seen CF98, NP22, NP34 all with norinco mark and with out .... but hp77b with norinco mark ... NO sir

Faheem
10-06-2010, 09:08 PM
Bro I have already seen this handgun at many shops of Lucky star its not belong to Norinco...

Danish Ali
22-06-2010, 08:37 PM
Bro Today I fired HB77B at my village It was superb. It was totally smooth and the recoil was like nothing.

Aquarius
22-06-2010, 09:24 PM
Danish brother welcome to the forum.. glad to know that you are quite happy with your HP77B...... :)

Faheem
22-06-2010, 11:06 PM
Danish Ali brother welcome to pakgun community.

noumanzaidi
22-06-2010, 11:08 PM
Danish buddy welcome to the community of gun lovers

Sparticas
24-06-2010, 10:41 AM
Bro Today I fired HB77B at my village It was superb. It was totally smooth and the recoil was like nothing.

Danish dear seems to be a silent member of this forum for quite a time, Welcome dear and please introduce your self properly in the introduction section. and kindly update your location ..

vicky1
11-01-2012, 02:20 AM
I just bought this handgun on Saturday, took it to the range and fired 50 rounds through it. Except for the trademark slimy Chinese grease, it was a superb fire. I want to buy another one but the dealer says that they are short in the market now.

http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/uu41/Gandapur/22022009305.jpglast week i get the hp77b with norinco seal Rs. 41000

vicky1
11-01-2012, 02:22 AM
i get hp77 with norince trademark

Omkhan
11-01-2012, 11:58 AM
Could you please let us know the shop where u bought this? Are more pieces available?

Trigger_happy78
11-01-2012, 12:18 PM
Looks like a Sig clone. What's the price of this weapon? How would respected members compare it with Serbian Sig clone CZ999.

gunenthusiast
11-01-2012, 01:04 PM
could somebody inform availability of np44 and hp77b in islamabad/rawalpindi?

vicky1
15-01-2012, 03:06 AM
ya .. i gOt this from al-haris traders .. i think there were more stock .. Shoyp keeper told me that when its was short from market he sold this gun at Rs. 140,000/-7609

nd whO r confused about nOrinco.. u can see the Norinco seal

vicky1
15-01-2012, 03:17 AM
Herex ma hp77b (Norinco) .. @ Rs. 41000/- .. nd American Grip cOsts Rs. 3500

salman manj qadri
15-01-2012, 03:17 AM
hp77b is available at lucky star and people say that highway police is also using this but i think it,s width is quite more than normal , if someone must want to buy china than 85b is good choice "but i never used 85b"

salman manj qadri
15-01-2012, 03:19 AM
bhai where did u buy this grip ? may i use this grip on viking ?

salman manj qadri
15-01-2012, 03:21 AM
grip looks cool . really

vicky1
15-01-2012, 03:25 AM
get this grip from tayaballay & sons .. just opposit to Al Haris-Traders .. the biggest shop of accessories in lucky star ..

salman manj qadri
15-01-2012, 03:28 AM
thanks . actually i don,t like my mp 446 orignal grip

vicky1
15-01-2012, 03:29 AM
Hp77 is also being used by U.N Forces .. there were 3 pistols Stuger .. Cf98 and Hp77b .. dealer told me performance wise Hp77b is better than Cf98 nd Stuger

vicky1
15-01-2012, 03:30 AM
actually this is ma 1st weapOn .. nd got it on 2 january .. thats y i dont knw much about other guns

vicky1
15-01-2012, 03:34 AM
salman can i have your id or sumthing .. to discuss wid u about guns ??

sadatpk
18-01-2012, 11:20 PM
i do not think HP77b is of nato standard pistol,however better than CF98,but Cz999 is far ahead leading all the sig clones,perhaps the best Sig clones,however maker of Cz999 claims it to be original not clone

Mig
19-01-2012, 12:20 PM
i do not think HP77b is of nato standard pistol,however better than CF98,but Cz999 is far ahead leading all the sig clones,perhaps the best Sig clones,however maker of Cz999 claims it to be original not clone

Yes because its not an exact copy. One prominent difference is that Sig have decocker and slide release and cz999 have only decocker which also acts as a slide release.

SPAYPANTHER
19-01-2012, 11:14 PM
Yes because its not an exact copy. One prominent difference is that Sig have decocker and slide release and cz999 have only decocker which also acts as a slide release.

sig in lakhs and cz999 in thousand…. I HUGE DIFFERENCE! While you will not find such difference in their preforms

Mig
20-01-2012, 01:05 AM
sig in lakhs and cz999 in thousand…. I HUGE DIFFERENCE! While you will not find such difference in their preforms

Yes indeed. the most attractive feature ,, !!!

Sensei
20-01-2012, 01:31 AM
@vicky1 dear many many congrats for your new gun indeed its a nice one, thinking of NP22 a very well reputed same looking gun of Norinco is already in the market then whats a need of a new name for an old famous same hand gun?

Mig
25-01-2012, 06:36 PM
@vicky1 dear many many congrats for your new gun indeed its a nice one, thinking of NP22 a very well reputed same looking gun of Norinco is already in the market then whats a need of a new name for an old famous same hand gun?

Good to see you Sensei, where you have been !.
Maybe its because China is China :P Or maybe some slight difference. One other reason can be that being a Manufacturer Norinco also supply products of other manufacturer by its trade stamp like the TT pistols of different manufacturers in China all do business under Norinco Umberella.

Sensei
25-01-2012, 09:18 PM
Hello Mig I am fine thank you, well you are right about Norinco supply policies, please elaborate is there any price difference between two? last year when I saw this HP77B without Norinco logo that was even cheaper than CF 98,which was cheaper than NP 34 and of course NP22 at that time whats new about this HP 77B after Norinco stamped ,do you have any idea?

Mig
27-01-2012, 03:49 PM
NP22 has an alloy frame and steel slide whereas HP77B has a steel frame & slide

vicky1
31-05-2012, 03:44 AM
bro .. hp77 also got decocker

vicky1
31-05-2012, 03:45 AM
price of hp77b with norinco loGo 42000 k

vicky1
31-05-2012, 03:48 AM
thanks Sensel .. i had 3 options to buy .. Hp77 .. Cf98 .. and stouger.. but ma friend shopkeeper advice me to buy hp77 its better in performance in all .. i like the shape of hp77..

semperfi
06-06-2012, 01:29 AM
HP77 is a reliable firearm, even though its chinese, fires accurately, no stoppages, good mag capacity too. Overall feels exactly like a SIG 226 apart from the 'Made in China' written on the frame, the only thing that I'd want to remove :)

Enigmatic Desires
06-06-2012, 02:52 AM
Last i held it i felt like i was holding a 'pocket tank'
Its 1 heavy gun

Khan381
07-06-2012, 01:07 AM
Last i held it i felt like i was holding a 'pocket tank'
Its 1 heavy gun

+1... agreed with ED

Mig
07-06-2012, 01:46 AM
thanks Sensel .. i had 3 options to buy .. Hp77 .. Cf98 .. and stouger.. but ma friend shopkeeper advice me to buy hp77 its better in performance in all .. i like the shape of hp77..

If you also have Stouger in your consideration then You have price range of upto 60k. Why dont you choose a CZ999 Scorpion instead of a hp77 ? Its much better and same architecture

DOM
07-06-2012, 01:52 AM
Agreed with MIG
Cz999 is a very good weapon as compare to chinese.

Syed Waseem Hyder
13-03-2014, 03:47 PM
One of my friend is selling slightly used Hp77B, what should be the price pls guide.

Enigmatic Desires
13-03-2014, 04:45 PM
One of my friend is selling slightly used Hp77B, what should be the price pls guide.

35k (approximately)

mohsin.mashhadi
18-04-2014, 01:56 PM
NONE of my friends want to sell their weapons...what should I do??? :p

Skywatcher
18-04-2014, 02:04 PM
NONE of my friends want to sell their weapons...what should I do??? :p

I want to sell my NP-22, but alas you are not in Karachi:ohwell:.

1stranger
18-04-2014, 02:34 PM
I want to sell my NP-22, but alas you are not in Karachi:ohwell:.


So its time to depart .... :)

Well, probably its for up gradation. Right?

May you get a very good price for your beleoved NP22, brother. Aameen

Skywatcher
18-04-2014, 02:55 PM
So its time to depart .... :)

Well, probably its for up gradation. Right?

May you get a very good price for your beleoved NP22, brother. Aameen

Jazak Allah Bro. Want to upgrade for conceal carry purpose but still feeling sad and heavy hearted because it never stopped once till i ran out of ammo :(.

1stranger
18-04-2014, 03:36 PM
I know you like it alot... specially I remember you NP22's pic with knife and a watch... :)
Beautiful pic that was...

Well, cannot you CC it, because people CC EZ9 which is heavier than NP22 IMO, then why not NP22?

What you have in mind as an alternative?

Skywatcher
18-04-2014, 03:48 PM
I know you like it alot... specially I remember you NP22's pic with knife and a watch... :)
Beautiful pic that was...

Well, cannot you CC it, because people CC EZ9 which is heavier than NP22 IMO, then why not NP22?

What you have in mind as an alternative?

I am not able to find a good IWB holster for that. I might shift to some Turkish compact :)

1stranger
18-04-2014, 03:54 PM
I am not able to find a good IWB holster for that. I might shift to some Turkish compact :)

Hmm... ok..

Well I recently checked Canik 100 (Shark I think)... small and light weight...!
Bukhsh Elahi in Lahore gave me asking price of 65k I geuss.. mean one can get lower than that as well...

May you get best gun in the best price. Aameen

Skywatcher
18-04-2014, 03:56 PM
Hmm... ok..

Well I recently checked Canik 100 (Shark I think)... small and light weight...!
Bukhsh Elahi in Lahore gave me asking price of 65k I geuss.. mean one can get lower than that as well...

May you get best gun in the best price. Aameen

Ameen. Yes this is the one i am trying to get or Canik Shark ported barrel.

1stranger
18-04-2014, 04:10 PM
Ameen. Yes this is the one i am trying to get or Canik Shark ported barrel.

Ok... all the best brother...!

Ashes
18-04-2014, 04:12 PM
Ameen. Yes this is the one i am trying to get or Canik Shark ported barrel.

Shark FC is an amazing compact handgun! the F model is standard size but I saw the compact FC with HM Traders a long time ago, do try to ask him.

Skywatcher
18-04-2014, 04:17 PM
Shark FC is an amazing compact handgun! the F model is standard size but I saw the compact FC with HM Traders a long time ago, do try to ask him.

Thx for info Ashes bro. I will in sha Allah.

mohsin.mashhadi
18-04-2014, 07:33 PM
I want to sell my NP-22, but alas you are not in Karachi:ohwell:.
Wish i had a jinn in my kabo, so i would request him k, sky bhai ki pistol ly ao, payment kr k ofcourse:-)). Thnx alot anyways sky bro. Really appreciate the offer.

mohsin.mashhadi
18-04-2014, 07:35 PM
BTW @ALL . What should a used np22 cost?? Approx...

SIGlock
19-04-2014, 12:24 PM
BTW @ALL . What should a used np22 cost?? Approx...
Depends upon the condition... But lets say, if the condition is 90-95%, it should be somewhere around 35K-40K IMHO...