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Abbas
12-02-2010, 05:07 PM
Salams,

I've been using 9mm's for so long and so frequently that I've been looking into different calibers to break the monotony. Recently I had a TT custom made in Stainless steel ( http://www.pakguns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3805 ) and now wanted to experience the different variants available in our market.

The most commonly available ones are:

1). Local (Price range 6k to 15k)

2). Chinese (16k to 30k)

3). Serbian (25k - 33k)


Having placed all side by side I can honestly say there is no comparison in Fit and Finish of the Serbian Zastava with the Chinese or Local offerings. The Zastava is as well finished a TT as they come. The M57 has no external safety but does have a magazine disconnect, the parts are well put together and I did not need tools to disassemble it. The trigger is crisp, mags hold 9 rounds and the longer grip makes for a more comfortable fit in my hands.

Below are some pictures, I will post the range review after the weekend InshAllah.


Btw I got tired of taking Studio type pictures, these pics were taken in a light mood and focus on the TT sterotype. Hope you guys enjoy them.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaTT0_resize.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaTT1_resize.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaTT2_resize.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaTT5_resize.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaTT4_resize.jpg


The Three most popular items in Pakistan :D

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaTT8_resize.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaTT6_resize.jpg

Gilani
12-02-2010, 05:16 PM
Zastava means quality. Congrats Abbas sahib, you have added yet another quality gun to your wonderful collection. We are now eagerly waiting for the range report. http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/happy/happy0034.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net)
regards

Gunpsycho
12-02-2010, 05:42 PM
@ Sirjee very nice presentation indeed BTW did u saw my little collection in the Knife Enthusiasts Thread :cool:

Faisji
12-02-2010, 05:51 PM
I bought M57 a month ago and tested it.
http://www.pakguns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3686

Since then the gun has been fed about 600 rounds with with 1 hangfire (old russian ammo out of my basement :D ).
The gun is a gem and crisp in action.It easy to clean and carries beautifully.The longer grip is really helpful in handling.

BTW how much you paid JHPs?

Denovo87
12-02-2010, 06:03 PM
The Three most popular items in Pakistan :D

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaTT8_resize.jpg




Congrats on aquiring the third one :) now you have all of them ;)

Gilani
12-02-2010, 06:14 PM
The Three most popular items in Pakistan :D

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaTT8_resize.jpg



Three most popular items, yes, but in different ways http://www.gashing.com/smile/evilgrin/evilgrin0039.gif (http://www.squidoo.com/scuba-diving-guide).
Left most is least cared for, centre / below is most sought after and for some, right most ensures that the job is done http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/evilgrin/evilgrin0003.gif (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-angel-smileys.php)

Anthrax
12-02-2010, 06:38 PM
Congratulations once again! Love the sarcastic photography :D

KageFox
12-02-2010, 06:43 PM
Great! The gun looks like it means business... and wonderful photography! What camera do you use, sir?

Sami
12-02-2010, 06:51 PM
A.S.A, Nice gun and very nice presentation except last picture, That might add the forth most wanted "Item" for some. really enjoyed sir Gilani's comments. Thanks for sharing.A-H

Ilyas
12-02-2010, 07:19 PM
Congrats chief! You surely have got the best TT available here... nice gun, great photos and
hilarious comments by Den n Gilani :)

Ka_Khan
12-02-2010, 08:46 PM
Congrats Abbas.... Its difficult to admire the new toy or the pics.They are superb!

Starfish
12-02-2010, 09:16 PM
ala abbas bhai!
is that a hollow point i see ? :O

AK47
12-02-2010, 10:14 PM
Congrats Chief, nice addition there! Indeed the "feel" of holding a Zastava TT is incomparable to that of the Chinese or any other variant. Beautiful gun. :P

Btw, pics and guns are for sure laudable, but I'd like to mention I found your choice of literature even more interesting! Sure you must be an MBA! ;)

Finally, how about adding some form of hogue grips to this already comfortable "hold"? Would look even better. Happy shooting and let's hear from the range side. :)

Abbas
12-02-2010, 10:28 PM
@Gilani, GunPsycho, Denovo, Anthrax, Ilyas, Ka_Khan. Stimga. Thank you, I will post a range report soon.

@Kagefox Lol, I don't own a camera yet, planning on buying one soon. The pictures were taken from my Camera phone which is a Nokia 5800 with a 3.2 megapixel camera.

@Gilani, Denovo and Stigma All that was missing from the three things is a white Kalaf wala shalwar kurta and you have the quintessential uniform for inner city (anderoon sher) Lahore. Read: Butt sahib with a 'Shaaning' Rado, TT and new banknotes :)

@Starfish and Faisji Yes, those are 85 grain HP's. I get them for Rs. 65. I bought some other interesting ammo yesterday, will post in the ammo review thread soon.

@Ak47 Just today I was looking for Houge grips for the TT frame and did not really find anything specially made for it, but I'm sure the universal grips or something made for the 1911 series should fit. The books are part of my little library, I do have an MBA but these are just for fun reading.

KageFox
12-02-2010, 10:46 PM
@Abbas: Sir, then I must say, you do great work with a phone camera. As an enthusiastic photographer myself, I believe you'll get even greater results if you get your hands on a quality camera.

AK47
12-02-2010, 11:04 PM
@KF..........Not to get too off topic, but your comment above, about a "gunner" getting a better camera just kind of reminds me of the "stinginess" that we shooter's normally have for other "non-gun" related items, while we spend fortunes on the "real" things!

I personally just changed a Nokia 1208 mobile phone, the cheapest of it's kind, for something better, that too when it completely sucked up! :lol:

In any case, however, I agree with you, Abbas is a "shooter" of both types, gunz and camera's! Really like the pic above of both gunz together between the PG anniversary symbol. Excellent photography, indeed, marvelous. :)

KageFox
12-02-2010, 11:16 PM
Just like I was telling a friend the other day, I enjoy both types of shooting :D

Btw, Abbas bhai, the Hogue grips really improve the feeling of the TT grip. I had a chance to hold one on my solo visit to the range.

Ilyas
12-02-2010, 11:25 PM
... those are 85 grain HP's. I get them for Rs. 65. I bought some other interesting ammo yesterday, will post in the ammo review thread soon.

... tried alot to find few of these rounds, but these are not available here anymore. Rs.65/- per round seems
quite reasonable.

Chief, plz don't forget to share the other interesting ammo, you got.

9mm Luger
12-02-2010, 11:26 PM
congrats Abbas bhai

Dr Zakir
12-02-2010, 11:30 PM
congratulation abbas on your new purchase . it is a wonder full pistol

Slayerjatt
13-02-2010, 12:20 AM
lovely gun MASHAALLAH and really looks robust. congratulations chief.

Zhatash
13-02-2010, 01:02 AM
yeah no doubt bout the quality of Zastava M57 Congratulation Abbas :)
In this calibre, some times HP's are really hard to find..
Looking for the range review ....

Mohammad
13-02-2010, 08:53 AM
very nice addition to your collection. No firearm is complete without the infamous 30 bore. BTW Abbas where did you find these hollow point 7.62 rounds. I have been looking all around for these

Naveed_pk
13-02-2010, 02:55 PM
Congrats Abbas bhai .. And Very Nice Photography Indeed :)
Abbas bhai regarding hogue grip i bought once for 9mm Norinco TT shape.. Its small in size and for single stack magazine..
here is the pic
http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af248/naveed_pk/14012010020.jpg

viper218
13-02-2010, 03:18 PM
Excellent pics....looks like a lean mean fighting machine you have. Congrats

Dr Hanif Malik
13-02-2010, 06:09 PM
@abbas sahab great looking purchase,but after shooting please intimate trigger working ,accuracy,after shooting at 25mtr and so thanks:)

Abbas
13-02-2010, 06:26 PM
Took the M57 to the range today and fired about 100 rounds. It was quite a different experience from firing 9mm's. A little more kick and lot more noise.

I did not experience any misfires and the gun is generally comfortable to shoot, it's decently accurate as well. I did face some feeding problems initially but that was cured with loading the magazines a little more carefully. The rounds have to be facing up, if the projectile end is facing down then they will not feed properly. Generally tapping the magazines lightly on a hard surface after loading (much like smokers do before opening a pack) corrects the stack alignment. Regardless I did not have to take the magazine out or anything except rack the slide, so it's not a major issue and overall the pistol is reliable.

The surprising fact was the case ejection, cases were flying 20 or 30 feet away from where I was standing. Excellent ejection and working flawlessly. The strikes on the primers were solid and centered. The 9 round mag cap makes the grip a little longer and making it easier to hold. The pistol itself much like the 1911 has a slim profile and natural pointability. The trigger is better than average and I think it will get better with use.

Have to say that the .30 is as 'badtameez' a round as they come. After firing 100 rounds of it I couldn't shoot anything 9mm at 15m. Below is today's target, shot at 10M. I did not really change targets today as I was concentrating more on testing the pistol for reliability rather than accuracy. After today's shooting session I think after 300 rounds the pistol will not disappoint in both departments.


The first mag of 9 shots.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaFirstMag.jpg


The Target after 75 rounds, two mags on rapid as well

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaFinalTarget.jpg


Primer Strikes

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/ZastavaStrike.jpg

Naveed_pk
13-02-2010, 06:32 PM
Great review Abbas bhai .It seems you have fired from 1 meter ... :)

Dr Hanif Malik
13-02-2010, 06:51 PM
@yes .30 is little bit less accurate then 9mm,even then you make a good group.thanks for sharing:)

Denovo87
13-02-2010, 06:51 PM
Nice shooting & review Abbas bro, noticed one thing that is holes made, arnt these bit diferrent than made by 9mm? is it velocity eating up the paper/card more cleanly?

KageFox
13-02-2010, 06:52 PM
Great review, sir! Pretty good accuracy too!

Now, the million-dollar question: Do you find this gun reliable enough to trust it with your life? (I know I ask this quite a lot of times - just can't help it)

Gilani
13-02-2010, 07:13 PM
Abbas sahib, very nice shooting. I know its not at all easy to hit bulls with a Tokarev style pistol. Good shooting. :)
btw: was M57 available in stainless finish also?

Abbas
13-02-2010, 10:19 PM
@Naveed and Dr. Hanif Thank you.

@Denovo Yes the bullet holes were indeed crisper and shaper, I noticed the same thing. I think it's the hotter, high velocity loads of the 7.62 compared to the 9mm.

@Kagefox Surprisingly yes, although I would not prefer it, I was quite comfortable shooting it. For me the lack of a decocker and it being first shot SA is a problem otherwise the pistol is reliable. Since we are all spoiled with high cap magazine a 9 shot capacity is also an issue for most people when carrying.

@Gilani My friend I am thinking to stop posting targets with your excellent shooting on display in comparison :) There are no stainless versions out there as far as I know, that is the reason I got one made.

Abbas
13-02-2010, 10:26 PM
I almost forgot, since most of you took an interest in 7.62 hollow points I thought I should make a video of it for you guys and show you what exactly it does and how good are the Serbian Hp's that I use.

I am posting pictures in the ammunition review thread. Here I am posting a video of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkKX2pxKaSU

Faisji
13-02-2010, 10:40 PM
Abbas bro
Excellent review

Accuracy
M57 is a fit for purpose gun(SD/HD) rather than competition or precision shooting)My experiences are pretty much the same.The groups it gives are more than adequate

Handling
It does kick more than a 9mm but regular 45 and 40 shooters are not unduly put off by this .The ejection is quite spectacular i agree.

As far carrying for defense ppl should practice draw and battery rather than carry chambered with hammer half cocked.The risk of being unable to cock and fire under stress is high.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6LB8rQdN7o

Abbas
13-02-2010, 10:52 PM
@Faisji Thank you, I agree. The M57 is an adequate all purpose gun, if someone wanted to buy anything in the .30 caliber and a TT, they can't do better than the M57. If you have fired different ammo though it please post here, I was using Chinese bronze finish rounds.

One thing I forgot to add about the M57 that I like is when disassembling the spring does not pop out like most other TT's nor is a nightmare to align back. Very steady and easy to reinstall.

Here are some pictures of the Hp expansion and target.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/762Hp1.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/762Hp2.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/762Hp3.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/762Hp4.jpg

Faisji
13-02-2010, 11:03 PM
My majority rounds have been Chinese as well with some old Russian ammo( about 30 rounds) from 80's.

I am currently looking to acquire some Serbian ammo.

BTW way the draw cock technique is referred to as condition 3 or "israli draw"

9mm Luger
14-02-2010, 01:16 PM
very nice range report Abbas Bhai

KageFox
14-02-2010, 02:50 PM
Nice to hear M57 is not a pain to put back. Me and dad once disassembled grandpa's Tok... horrific experience! The spring flew out 3 times! To make it worse, the gun had hardly ever been fired...

Oasis
14-02-2010, 02:53 PM
AoA ..

cong Abbas sb to buy new caliber gun.

LionHeart
15-02-2010, 10:25 AM
@Abbas Bhai, Its for sure that Mashallah you really good in both types of shooting but this is a nice change you shared with us a M57 .30 caliber. Thanks for Sharing your this new experience along with nice video clip ... I am sure you made this video from your same Nokia ;) Nice shooting

regards,

Zhatash
20-02-2010, 01:41 AM
quite honest review..... grouping is very good.

Thanx Abbas

wasifali89
20-02-2010, 04:16 PM
good pics

Enigmatic Desires
21-02-2010, 06:55 PM
Excellent shooting Abbas bhai.. with both camara an the gun..

Pity the weapon does not come equipped with a manual safety though....

Budha Khan
22-02-2010, 10:55 PM
i got M57 in SS for 30k from Bannu a couple of days ago. u may have noticed that its barrel is more choked than chinese and russian variants... its muzzle velocity is 450m/s while chinese has 427 m/s.

Abbas
23-02-2010, 12:14 AM
SS as in Stainless steel ?? This I have to see, please post pictures asap !

Gilani
23-02-2010, 12:17 AM
i got M57 in SS for 30k from Bannu a couple of days ago. u may have noticed that its barrel is more choked than chinese and russian variants... its muzzle velocity is 450m/s while chinese has 427 m/s.
This is interesting. Please do post few pics :)

12GAUGE
23-02-2010, 09:50 AM
SS as in Stainless steel ?? This I have to see, please post pictures asap !


the SS version is readily available with almost any dealer that stocks the blued version. atleast when we were looking for one. the price of the SS version costs an additional 2K rupees.

Regards.

AK47
23-02-2010, 12:27 PM
And the pics of the SS still being "developed" in Dr. Zakir Sb's lab! :lol:

Dr. Sahib was the first one here to get hands on the M-57 in SS.

I'm of the opinion however, and Dr. Sahib as well as Budha Khan Sb may be able to shed some light on this, that the blued version still looks better, coz finishing "flaws" will be more noticeable in the SS. :)

Budha Khan
23-02-2010, 03:12 PM
yeah stainless steel / silver color... there is no finishing flaws i noticed so far but the thing i wud share is putting out cartidges from its magazine is not that easy or smooth as we experienced in chinese and russian models.

Budha Khan
23-02-2010, 03:29 PM
the imge of M57 in silver version http://s2.postimage.org/W7OlS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsW7OlS)
http://s4.postimage.org/nlpgJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVnlpgJ)

http://s1.postimage.org/VwOai.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxVwOai)

http://s1.postimage.org/VwT9A.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxVwT9A)

http://s2.postimage.org/W91Gi.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsW91Gi)

Dr Zakir
23-02-2010, 03:56 PM
Not safe to point gun on any body especially yourself even if u think it is empty

AK47
23-02-2010, 09:25 PM
@Budha Khan Sir............Thanks for the nice share, had been waiting long to finally see this beauty in SS! Nice gun, indeed, beautiful and seems for sure without any flaws in finishing, though your pics were low resolution. Being at it, Sir, would you kindly share the price also? :)

Budha Khan
24-02-2010, 11:20 PM
Ak 47 bro i got that for 30 k from Bannu and black was for 28k. These days its price is 25 or 26 k in Lahore that i ve heard from my mate... and yes i m not that good at taking pics but despite that i tried to have them from My web cam :)

Engineeer
25-02-2010, 03:09 PM
gud abbas bhai nice addition

Abbas
25-02-2010, 03:53 PM
Thanks Engineer.

Great looking pistol Budha Khan. Congratulations.

Budha Khan
26-02-2010, 01:02 AM
thanks for the encouragement, Abbas Bhai!!

Enigmatic Desires
27-02-2010, 12:40 AM
thats a very beutiful weapon sir.

an TTs are usualy anything but pretty

Budha Khan
03-03-2010, 02:53 AM
Ofcourse yes Enigmatic Desires sab... besides beauty 7.62mm hand gun is a kalishnikov among pistols ... its totally a combat weapon, awesome penetration power and really a long range pistol. as we know that it has a less generous magazine ie 8 or 9 rounds but this makes it lighter and comfortable to carry. I really love any .30 pistol either zastava or chinese.




" Though i walk the valley of death i fear no evil for i am cocked and locked "...

haider5
05-03-2010, 12:14 AM
v nice

haiderkn
05-03-2010, 01:35 PM
Nicely taken pictures ....specially for "SERBIA"

Budha Khan
07-03-2010, 10:51 PM
yeah thanks

Sensei
08-03-2010, 01:20 AM
really an amazing gun very nice pics dear Budha khan :cool:

Aquarius
08-03-2010, 04:12 PM
Very nice looking pistol indeed. Bro Budha Khan..........

Budha Khan
09-03-2010, 12:39 AM
yeah thanks

Budha Khan
16-03-2010, 09:17 PM
hi all!!! does any one know the barrel Service life of Zastava m57 HG?? Chinese tts have 5000 rounds service life whilst Zastava's service life isn't mentioned on its book let!!!

Taurus
16-03-2010, 11:50 PM
They have good barrel life maybe our member Luger can put a light on this!!!

Faisji
17-03-2010, 10:09 AM
hi all!!! does any one know the barrel Service life of Zastava m57 HG?? Chinese tts have 5000 rounds service life whilst Zastava's service life isn't mentioned on its book let!!!

http://www.pakguns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3381&p=4
Check out post 81


faisji

i do not remember that anyone for all this years published it,
but i have seen many of those pistols that last more than 30 or even 40.000 round.

it is not unusual for a slide to live shorter than barrel at m 57. slide at the end curves, in way that it
rear end goes up, and than you drop m 57 in garbage can ...

there are 2 parts at those guns that should be ready to change during it´s lifetime,
one is external spring that holds slide stop, shaped as fork, on right side of frame
( it can brake every 5 - 10.000 rounds ), and one small part inside triggering mechanism,
one that release hammer, and is often polished for easier trigger pull.
both of those parts are meant to be changed during usage by designer tokarev,
so it is not mistake of manufacturer.
this polishing is a very tricky job: surface of this small part is hardened in factory,
and polishing can remove this thin part that is hardest, so what is left is soft and
last much shorter than. when this part is too polished ( thinned to much ) tokarevs
start to shoot in fully automatic mode, which would not be so terrible if they would´t
shot without touching trigger in the same moment when round is chambered.
please, pay attention to it, it can cause real tragedy.

Budha Khan
17-03-2010, 09:00 PM
Faisji sab this means its overall life is around 5-10 k rounds??

Faisji
18-03-2010, 08:45 AM
As i understand the parts mentioned the retention pin on the slide and the trigger sear are to be replaced after the give up which happens areounfd 5000-10000 region but the barrels will last 30-40 k rounds.

farishtay
19-03-2010, 06:37 PM
beautiful gun budha

Budha Khan
20-03-2010, 07:55 PM
faisji bro i got ur piont!!! thnx vry much

Budha Khan
20-03-2010, 07:57 PM
thnx farishta

Luger
26-03-2010, 03:08 AM
as you could see, on this forum i just allow myself to make a comment
where I am sure about my knowledge.

zastava´s barrels are made of steel marked 13A, forged and cold hammered.

this steel is used by zastava for automatic rifles, hunting rifles, machineguns etc.

pressures, speed of ball , recoil and other influences on barrels are much harder
on any other type of weapon then on pistol barrels, especially with rifle
calibers like .223 rem, .243, 22 - 250 and other high velocity rounds,
and still, same material and technology are used and work well.

pistol barrel in zastava m 57, as I wrote somewhere in here, often lasts more than slide
of this pistol, which is at least this mentioned 30 - 40.000 rounds.

since this m 57 was in service in serbia for decades, great number of rounds used
in m 57 ´ s were prvi partizan, but old type with corosive primer, with mercury in them,
and with those primers and fmj 5,5 g balls barrels lives that much.

with new non mercury primers result can be the same, or more.

all materials used by zastava are excellent, they just refuse from some reasons,
( that I can not always understand, honestly... ),to use new polymer materials,
carbon, or to make customers happy by various versions of their products,
but this things that they already producing are really good.

Luger
26-03-2010, 03:17 AM
barrels for cz 99 and cz 999 sre not of steel 13A, they are made by same technology,
but with different materials and they are hard chromed, so they last much longer
than those in m 57 ´ s.

please, do not think about my posts that they are inspired by just patriotic reasons,
as you see I criticize zastava when they deserve it, but I also have to admit where
they do well.

barrels are best parts in zastava´s products.

Luger
26-03-2010, 03:36 AM
http://s1.postimage.org/xeXjA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxxeXjA)

I posted this picture just like illustration.probably you do not have this revolvers imorted
in your country.

this is zastava m 83, revolver in .357 mag., same material, same technology,
and barrels are again best part, even on demanding .357 .

zastava´s revolvers are good, but not so good as zastava´s pistols,
by my opinion.

Gilani
26-03-2010, 06:27 AM
I agree Sir. Your comments are always backed up by sound technological data and reasoning based on practical experience. Please give your comments more often on this website. Its always an education reading your comments. :)

Aquarius
26-03-2010, 10:33 AM
Very nice information Luger bro..... thanks for sharing... please update us about your information like this one frequently.... :)

Ilyas
27-03-2010, 12:55 AM
@Luger... Thanks for getting the time out and sharing these informative posts.
Plz keep sharing your knowledge with us, at your convenience :)

Budha Khan
28-03-2010, 02:27 AM
Ok Thanks for sharing, Luger!!!

Luger
04-04-2010, 03:02 AM
just to add one nice pic, by my opinion...

this is obviously taken by cell phone,
the oner want´s to sell it, so it is in some internet market,
published for sale.

regards. :)


http://s3.postimage.org/JB0WA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqJB0WA)

Luger
04-04-2010, 03:44 AM
... also one more, small tt ( in cal. 7,65 mm br. / .32 auto ),
and also for sale by the owner.

of course, it is for sale in serbia, here it can be just used like an illustration.


http://s3.postimage.org/JFfPS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqJFfPS)

Aquarius
04-04-2010, 07:24 PM
Nice pictures of a beautiful gun. Thanks for sharing Luger bro.. :)

Gilani
04-04-2010, 10:52 PM
just to add one nice pic, by my opinion...

this is obviously taken by cell phone,
the oner want´s to sell it, so it is in some internet market,
published for sale.

regards. :)


http://s3.postimage.org/JB0WA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqJB0WA)
Wow, a TT with wooden grips and compensator. This is a beautiful one Mr. Luger. Has a long barrel and looks like a target pistol. Any details?
Thanks for sharing :)

SPAYPANTHER
04-04-2010, 11:27 PM
what a TT...
but it is not avilable in pak :(

Luger
07-04-2010, 02:16 AM
@ sir Gilani

customization of those m57´s is made very clever, compensator is mounted
instead of guiding shell at the front of the slide, and is used like front guide
of the barrel, instead of guiding shell ( if i choose correct word for it ).

compensator has holes that works like on any other compensator, and barrel was
left untouched ( only good solution by my opinion ).

more weight on the front of the slide is good for target shooting ( better balance ),
and with jets of hot gases from the barrel and greater mass of the slide makes
strong kick of 7,62 x 25 easier to handle.

nostrils on compensator are not between sights, so view on the sights will not be disturbed
by smoke, nor front sight will be damaged by hot gases.

...and funny feature, slide can be cycled by pressing on the hard surface,
which i do not approve in any case.

...if we count everything, this compensator is not just cosmetic intervention on m 57.

:)

Budha Khan
07-04-2010, 02:30 AM
Luger dear!!! can u tell us taking out cartidges from Zastava M 57's magazines is not smooth as in Soviet n Chinese TTs???

Budha Khan
07-04-2010, 02:34 AM
The same above question i ask from all the senior members as well cartidges from M 57 mags can't be taken out smoothly like other TT pistols?? Can any one shed some light on this issue as i see many M57 pistols mags having this prob!!!

Luger
08-04-2010, 06:45 AM
2 possible reasons, although i did not notice before.

- stronger spring in magazine, which is something you should be glad,
if this is the reason.

- rough interior of magazine top, part where first round touches the magazine top.
if this is the reason, you will see this by scratches on the round, and it can be easily
corrected by polishing magazine by fine sand paper.
( roll sand paper on thin wooden stick and gently polish, clean magazine after,
and if you have, use something to repair damaged blueing, like gun - blue or
something similar )

Faisji
08-04-2010, 10:41 AM
I personally don't mind the fact that i cannot twiddle with rounds in mag.I think it more to do with rough finish of the mag than anything.If i put anything more than 7 in the mag then it is a bit of a struggle to get the rounds out.

Budha Khan
08-04-2010, 08:18 PM
thnx Luger Bro...

Budha Khan
08-04-2010, 08:19 PM
Exactly Faisji bro!!! i notice this in every M57 HG's mags...

minhal110
25-05-2010, 12:32 AM
Congrats Abbas bhai .. And Very Nice Photography Indeed :)
Abbas bhai regarding hogue grip i bought once for 9mm Norinco TT shape.. Its small in size and for single stack magazine..
here is the pic
http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af248/naveed_pk/14012010020.jpg


salam naveed bhai...how much you paid for this hogue grip and would it work with cf-98??
thanx in advance

imranmakoowala
28-08-2010, 07:57 PM
how i know which one (m57) Chinese ,local,Serbia please send the all pictures.
i appreciate bro.

Vik
28-08-2010, 09:56 PM
how i know which one (m57) Chinese ,local,Serbia please send the all pictures.
i appreciate bro.

The easiest way would be to browse Cafe Tees Bore thread by one and only SpayPanther.
Lots of picture and real eye candy thread.
Wese Zastava M57's grip/handle.dasta is longer than grip of Chinese 30bore.

iorigee
13-09-2010, 03:01 AM
.30 is out dated all over the world its being sold in counties like PK but the Serbian products are great and very reliable you can bet your like on them :)

malikjee
13-09-2010, 12:33 PM
Hi Bahi That was Mind blowing pistol i almost Like TT Guns i am fan of these guns i love this guns if any have tt pistol in lahore like this i want to meet kindly tell me thanks. :)

firstclassmale
10-10-2010, 10:53 PM
@mailkjee i m using this pistol for last 2.5 yrs and its performance is excellent ... if u waana meet me u are wellcome ... D.H.A Lhr

jonnyc
13-10-2010, 07:54 AM
Here is my "new" Yugo. M57. It shoots very nicely. You will notice that it has a 1911-style safety. They must have these safeties to be allowed to be imported into the US.
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r46/jonnycpics/m57001.jpg
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r46/jonnycpics/m57002.jpg

Crazy Shooter
14-10-2010, 01:06 AM
jonnyc here is my Serbian M 57 it comes with a mag disconnect safety like some other european guns ,
http://s4.postimage.org/mhWDS.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/198zgxl5w/)

http://s4.postimage.org/mhZ80.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/19914gxno/)

http://s4.postimage.org/mi37i.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/1994fjmn8/)

jonnyc
14-10-2010, 05:34 AM
Crazy Shooter, you have two different types of .30 Bore ammo there, can you post a clear picture of the bottom headstamp markings?
Thanks.

Shahsjs
31-12-2010, 05:40 PM
@Faisji,as i bought zastava kragujevac m57 tt just two week ago and the same thing is happening to mine mag.when i put more than 7 it needs force and also jammed by the pistol.