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StevenCline
28-01-2010, 09:58 AM
These are Ergo XT grips. I bought them for $19.99, they are supposed to be rougher and tackier so that you get a more secure grip on the gun. Anyone whose shot a gun in really hot weather under some exertion knows how sweaty the palms can get.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5526/img03050.jpg

Alvi
28-01-2010, 10:51 AM
good ones ..

A.Abbas
28-01-2010, 10:58 AM
Nice grip

Glockcohlic
28-01-2010, 11:15 AM
Nice grips & gun too is awesome. Kimber is great piece.

Naveed_pk
28-01-2010, 11:39 AM
Nice grips Bro.. Looking nice on pistol :)

wittycranium
28-01-2010, 12:40 PM
@StevenCline

Congrats on the new grips. :) They look good. Whats the material?

I wonder if you would be able to compare a Taurus 1911 with your Kimber 1911.

Mitho
28-01-2010, 12:51 PM
@stevenCline
congrats man.

StevenCline
28-01-2010, 09:20 PM
Thank you al for the congratulations.

StevenCline
28-01-2010, 09:43 PM
@StevenCline

Congrats on the new grips. :) They look good. Whats the material?

Per the Ergo webpage, (www.ergogrips.net (http://www.ergogrips.net))they are injection modeled, nylon-based polymer which are heavily textured to mimick the feel of skate-board tape.

I have felt skate-board tape, and it is much rougher than the grips. I won't call them a waste of money just yet. But I was looking for and expecting a much rougher grip than they have. They may be a bit "grippier" than the wooden grips which came from the factory, but not significantly rougher and sharper.



I wonder if you would be able to compare a Taurus 1911 with your Kimber 1911.

Kimber has several different models with differing degrees of custom gunsmith work.

I have fired a Taurus 1911 and I was pleased. The main difference will not be in materials or design since both are steel construction 1911s. The difference between the Taurus and my Kimber was the slide to frame fit, tightness of lock up, and trigger.

Kimber had a better slide to farme fit- there was less "play" when the slide cycled. The Taurus was looser and wobbled around more when in the cycling process. Loose helps more in comabt where the gun gets dirty and can tolerate more impedience in the slide to frame fit.

Kimber had a much tighter lock up- when the slide is fully forward with a round in battery, there was ZERO play. It was tight like a tick. This means that the sights were always in the same position to the barrel. If the slide is loose when in battery the sights may not be in the same relationship to the barrel each time.

Kimber had a much shorter, smoother and lighter trigger. The Taurus was not only longer and heavier but "gritty." I could feel the metal catch and release during the trigger pull. A smooth, light short trigger will aid the shooter in making better shots.

Kimber has certain other gun-smith work- such as front trap checkering and under trigger guard checking, adjustable sights and so forth.

Kimber also had a match grade barrel, the Taurus an ordnance grade barrel.

http://www.kimberamerica.com/products/pistols/customshop/super_match_II/
http://www.taurususa.com/gun-selector-results.cfm?series=19&toggle=tp


Please understand you asked me to compare my top of the line Kimber with an a more production model Taurus. My Kimber was $1700 US (now MRSP at $2250 US) while a Taurus 1911 would be maybe a third or even a quarter of what one could obtain a Taurus for.

It's a bit of a performance car v. passenger car comparision. They both get you there, one just does so at a higher cost and better materials and craftsmanship, however...


I would have zero regrets owning a Taurus 1911.

KageFox
28-01-2010, 10:36 PM
Nice grips... looks kinda like Robar's stippled Glock grips, at least from looking at the texture in the pic...

Glocky
28-01-2010, 11:30 PM
Sweet, i'd luv to have the kimber ;)

Dr Zakir
29-01-2010, 12:29 AM
great grips on a greater hand gun. , unfortunately these are things of very rarity here.

Denovo87
29-01-2010, 09:33 AM
Nice grips on a very handsome gun, you live in a paradise Steve. We here can only dream of having such beauties if we had by chance then doing make ups like you do with yours is a heck.
But sometimes I feel its good for me & my family that we dont have these things available here like US otherwise we would have to eat, wear & live in, just guns & their accessories as I would hardly have left with any money to buy anything else than GUNS, AMMO, ACCESSORIES :)

StevenCline
29-01-2010, 01:23 PM
Wearing nothing but a belt, holster, and gun... sounds like PLAY TIME!!!! :D

StevenCline
29-01-2010, 01:38 PM
Thinking about getting a pair of these:
http://www.vzgrips.com/images/stories/Ambi%20050-3.jpg


Maybe these:

http://www.wilsoncombat.com/products/1911%20full%20size%20grips/full/351ADFS.jpg


Though I think these might very well look smashing as well:
http://store.mil-tac.com/ProductImages/1911_grips_micarta/micarta-redblk-lg.JPG

Bullseye
29-01-2010, 01:41 PM
Looking really good. Its already a Mercedes, but now you have added the AMG badge to it. Have Fun.

Bullseye
29-01-2010, 01:48 PM
Nice grips on a very handsome gun, you live in a paradise Steve. We here can only dream of having such beauties if we had by chance then doing make ups like you do with yours is a heck.
But sometimes I feel its good for me & my family that we dont have these things available here like US otherwise we would have to eat, wear & live in, just guns & their accessories as I would hardly have left with any money to buy anything else than GUNS, AMMO, ACCESSORIES :)

Danny, Paradise is what you make of it. We owe it all to the ppl like Charlton Heston, if it was up to some ppl only the outlaws would be armed.
Furthermore, a well souped up Sedan can sometimes give a Corvette a run for their money. ;)

Aquarius
03-03-2010, 09:04 PM
Well every grips looks nice on this real beauty... just a dream here in our country... Well Dear Mr Stevencline my querry is that which is the best 1911.45ACP (Kimber,Les Bear,Springfield,Para ordinance,Colt,bill Wilson & STI) since you live with these beauties you are the very right guy to ask from........

Ilyas
03-03-2010, 09:16 PM
Though I think these might very well look smashing as well:
http://store.mil-tac.com/ProductImages/1911_grips_micarta/micarta-redblk-lg.JPG

I have a pair of these in stock... who knows when I find a partner for my 1911 :) That most
probably will be a PT1911.

Aquarius
03-03-2010, 09:30 PM
+1 Ilyas bro... buy a PT1911 & install these grips on it & you will realy enjoy a Kimber like feeling......

Ilyas
03-03-2010, 09:35 PM
@Aquarius... will certainly do, inshaAllah! :)

StevenCline
04-03-2010, 09:45 AM
Well every grips looks nice on this real beauty... just a dream here in our country... Well Dear Mr Stevencline my querry is that which is the best 1911.45ACP (Kimber,Les Bear,Springfield,Para ordinance,Colt,bill Wilson & STI) since you live with these beauties you are the very right guy to ask from........


Les Baer or STI, for the money the STI is probably the best. Just my opinion.

StevenCline
04-03-2010, 09:46 AM
I have a pair of these in stock... who knows when I find a partner for my 1911 :) That most
probably will be a PT1911.

Are they aggressive? Do they really grab your hand?

Topak
04-03-2010, 12:23 PM
these 1911 are dream of every gun lover,as they are expensive one and out of my range so i have this 1911 in .30 bore pak made,bought by my late father about 15-16 years ago.just have a look.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/7682/26494221.jpg

Ilyas
04-03-2010, 10:59 PM
@Steve... Well I would say they provide a good enough grip, not something very exceptional. Moreover, the color
of these Miltac grips is not as red in real, as it appears to be in the pic. The real color is kind of brownish, however
I think these would look better on a gun in SS and not in blue finish.

StevenCline
06-03-2010, 02:38 AM
@Steve... Well I would say they provide a good enough grip, not something very exceptional. Moreover, the color
of these Miltac grips is not as red in real, as it appears to be in the pic. The real color is kind of brownish, however
I think these would look better on a gun in SS and not in blue finish.

When I looked at several different images of the same grips I noted that in some images they appeared to be more drown than red. So, I note your observation and believe it correct.

I want really aggressive, bordering on painfully aggressive grips.

StevenCline
06-03-2010, 02:40 AM
these 1911 are dream of every gun lover,as they are expensive one and out of my range so i have this 1911 in .30 bore pak made,bought by my late father about 15-16 years ago.just have a look.
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/7682/26494221.jpg

I observe first a very classic 1911 Milspec, but there is a flair to the mag well to the front which is different. I also note a "paddle" look to the rear of the hammer.

What did I miss?

Topak
06-03-2010, 12:06 PM
it is hand made "piece" by Pakistani gun crafts men.
you only missed the presence of palm lock in the rear of grip,which works as security. :|
and it is 7.63 mm not 9mm or 45acp. ;)

StevenCline
08-03-2010, 01:10 AM
it is hand made "piece" by Pakistani gun crafts men.
you only missed the presence of palm lock in the rear of grip,which works as security. :|
and it is 7.63 mm not 9mm or 45acp. ;)


"Palm lock" is this different that a "grip safety" normally present on a 1911?

7.63 huh? Interesting. Basically .30 caliber.

Denovo87
08-03-2010, 02:02 AM
it is hand made "piece" by Pakistani gun crafts men.
you only missed the presence of palm lock in the rear of grip,which works as security. :|
and it is 7.63 mm not 9mm or 45acp. ;)


"Palm lock" is this different that a "grip safety" normally present on a 1911?

7.63 huh? Interesting. Basically .30 caliber.

No, he is talking about the same grip safety and yes its .30 (7.62x25).

StevenCline
09-03-2010, 12:24 AM
it is hand made "piece" by Pakistani gun crafts men.
you only missed the presence of palm lock in the rear of grip,which works as security. :|
and it is 7.63 mm not 9mm or 45acp. ;)


"Palm lock" is this different that a "grip safety" normally present on a 1911?

7.63 huh? Interesting. Basically .30 caliber.

No, he is talking about the same grip safety and yes its .30 (7.62x25).

What's a .30 comparable to?

It's smaller than a .32 which is considered pretty anemic. I know the famous Walther PPK is .32, but still...
9mm is .354
.40 is .40
.45 is... freaking awesome (sorry, had to say it, no self control)


Someone who has shot all five (.30, .32, 9mm. .40, .45) tell me how it rates.

StevenCline
09-03-2010, 12:26 AM
I imagine when properly set up that ought to be a very smooth shooting gun. heavy steel platform and light little .30- probably not much different than a .22 rim fire conversion on a 1911.

12GAUGE
09-03-2010, 01:14 AM
I imagine when properly set up that ought to be a very smooth shooting gun. heavy steel platform and light little .30- probably not much different than a .22 rim fire conversion on a 1911.


on the contrary, the .30 caliber or 7.62TT is a much hotter round compared to a standard 9mm ball ammunition.

7.62TT (Tokarev)
Manufacturer : State factories, USSR
Bullet weight, g : 5,5g
Muzzle velocity, m/s : 409m/s to 525m/s
Muzzle energy, J : 488 to 760

Standard 9mm ball ammunition
Manufacturer : M882 USA
Bullet weight, g : 7,45g to 9.1g
Muzzle velocity, m/s : 305m/s to 390m/s
Muzzle energy, J : 419 to 643

based on the published data for standard TT and 9mm para rounds, we can clearly see why a TT rounds generates higher recoil, shoots flatter, higher penetration against objects/barriers and is known to have mild armor piercing capabilities. however the downside is over penetration and less then ideal wounding potential.

Regards.

Aquarius
09-03-2010, 08:07 PM
Very well explained 12gauge bro......

StevenCline
10-03-2010, 09:23 AM
@12guage: very well explained indeed, that was was unfamiliar cartirdge to me, I appreciate the education.

Ilyas
10-03-2010, 10:47 PM
@Steve... here are a few pics for you, to have an idea about .30cal (7.62*25) Serbian JHP in comparison
to a 9mm Chinese JHP. Sorry for the quality of pics, coz I had to use my phone camera :)

http://s1.postimage.org/GLWnS.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxGLWnS)

http://s1.postimage.org/GM7RA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxGM7RA)

http://s1.postimage.org/GMalJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxGMalJ)