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AK47
25-01-2010, 11:46 AM
On my visit to Lahore at the GTG, came across this beautiful "thingie" by AKDAL ARMS, Turkey.

Basically an "M-16" style 12 gauge semi-auto, with polymer body, mag-fed, capacity 5+1. Gas operated cycling, a ' la AK-47, piston operation.

Called P.A.R.A this morning, since it was in my full contemplation yesterday, but price tag as of this morning made me dubious again, coz not quite willing to disburse 90K for a Turkish semi-auto! Comments?

In my opinion, since I hadn't asked for price at my visit, but only got to know about it this morning, 50-55K would have been a sure- buy from my side of it, 60-70K a "considerable buy", yet I applied brakes to my desire at 90K, deeming an Fabarm Sdass, or a better class Mossberg should be available in this range as well, though non of them would be as "tactical" as this beauty!

Basically, due to the rare an occasional use from my side of a 12 gauge security type, I'm not much for going above 50K, since I got better options in my possession already, though not "discuss-able" here.

Technically, if you watch the 'split' view below, it's a wonder piece, highly tactical and capable of being heavily "accessorized" as such, in that, by removing the "carry" handle on the top, a Picatinny rail will become visible beneath. Furthermore, apart from the polymer and fixed butt, every sort of M-16 accessory will be practically use-able on this version.

What do you guyz say, is it a price tag for the value of it, or more for the "daishak" of it?



http://s1.postimage.org/vm0dA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxvm0dA)
http://s1.postimage.org/vm2IJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxvm2IJ)
http://s4.postimage.org/1ToAk0.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1ToAk0)

farishtay
25-01-2010, 12:04 PM
its abeauty but price is far above

Aamar
25-01-2010, 12:13 PM
Is it bulky like the Saiga or slimmer like the M-16 ?????

Finishing looks pretty decent though :)

Zubair
25-01-2010, 12:14 PM
Where was this available?

Basharat
25-01-2010, 12:18 PM
if you really want it just for the look they make a similar replica in darra

Mitho
25-01-2010, 12:24 PM
@zubair
PARA

AK47
25-01-2010, 12:25 PM
@Aamer.........It's not 'bulky" as such, just like M-16.

@Zubair sb......P.A.R.A dear.

@Basharat bro......Thanks bro, have seen the Khyber Arms version, wouldn't consider it by any means.

Zubair
25-01-2010, 01:16 PM
Well lets wait & see who buys & tests it. If looks could kill this thing surely can

AK47
25-01-2010, 03:43 PM
@Zubair bro..........Yeah, you're right, looks quite killing by themselves. You know it could fool around the LEA's pretty much! :lol: Especially if you could have a butt cuff placed with a few "fake" rounds placed on the outer, for display!

Actually, bear in mind one major assertion: It's "gas operated" piston movement cycling, hence in my view there should be less chances of mechanism failures like with typical spring operated repeaters.

Second, it's actually something on the lines of Benelli and Franchi types, which are priced I believe above 200K.

Overall, on better afterthought, I feel price is mainly a "novelty" price. It should settle down to something like 70K, making it a reasonable price at 1/3 of the prices of it's European counterparts. Thus, you're right, better take a "wait and see" stance for now.

I could post a separate thread here for what I'm actually looking around for, if it's available in the 70-80K range or so:

http://s3.postimage.org/9O3JA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq9O3JA)

If any idea of availability/price of this particular one by Fabarm Sdass, let me kindly know. It's the "Ultra short" version, 14" barrel, 6 shots!

MAminBanbhan
25-01-2010, 03:55 PM
i will prefer saiga 12

A.Abbas
25-01-2010, 04:35 PM
I have seen a Saiga 12k today at Nila Gumbad, original Russian, asking price was 164k, 8+1 x2 mags. I heard that Dr. Zakir or someone have tested original at Peshawar don't know what was their findings and price over there.

AK47
25-01-2010, 04:36 PM
@MaminBanbhan..........Bro, first of all welcome here, hope you'll enjoy being with us.

Well, the Saiga 12 indeed is an option, but since, price-wise, at something like 150-160K it's even closer to Benelli and Franchi spa types, so I would then prefer to add another 50-70K and get one of those when already in that monetary range!

Here, what's being discussed is an "economical compromise" to get something of those types but at a reasonable price. If the "introductory" price of above model could lessen some 20-25K with the passage of time, it's one good option I think, at 1/3 of the more expensive counterparts. Anyhow, that's my opinion only.

Vik
25-01-2010, 04:55 PM
On my visit to Lahore at the GTG, came across this beautiful "thingie" by AKDAL ARMS, Turkey.

Basically an "M-16" style 12 gauge semi-auto, with polymer body, mag-fed, capacity 5+1. Gas operated cycling, a ' la AK-47, piston operation.

Called P.A.R.A this morning, since it was in my full contemplation yesterday, but price tag as of this morning made me dubious again, coz not quite willing to disburse 90K for a Turkish semi-auto! Comments?

In my opinion, since I hadn't asked for price at my visit, but only got to know about it this morning, 50-55K would have been a sure- buy from my side of it, 60-70K a "considerable buy", yet I applied brakes to my desire at 90K, deeming an Fabarm Sdass, or a better class Mossberg should be available in this range as well, though non of them would be as "tactical" as this beauty!

Basically, due to the rare an occasional use from my side of a 12 gauge security type, I'm not much for going above 50K, since I got better options in my possession already, though not "discuss-able" here.

Technically, if you watch the 'split' view below, it's a wonder piece, highly tactical and capable of being heavily "accessorized" as such, in that, by removing the "carry" handle on the top, a Picatinny rail will become visible beneath. Furthermore, apart from the polymer and fixed butt, every sort of M-16 accessory will be practically use-able on this version.

What do you guyz say, is it a price tag for the value of it, or more for the "daishak" of it?



http://s1.postimage.org/vm0dA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxvm0dA)
http://s1.postimage.org/vm2IJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxvm2IJ)
http://s4.postimage.org/1ToAk0.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1ToAk0)

Aoa
What a coincidence. I have been quoted 150k(m16 type) for this shotgun by a Khi dealer.

Zhatash
25-01-2010, 05:09 PM
@AK
Agree with that the price tag is quite high it should be around 65~70k... i have googled Akdal site which said it is coming soon..

Starfish
25-01-2010, 05:32 PM
AK47: Sir, are you sure this was a 12 Gauge? because the magazine and the barrel profile make it look more like a .410.
UPDATE: Or may be i got the size mixed up (second picture) :) in any case, do confirm if the piece in the second picture is 12 Gauge or otherwise.

Zhatash
25-01-2010, 05:41 PM
AK47: Sir, are you sure this was a 12 Gauge? because the magazine and the barrel profile make it look more like a .410.
UPDATE: Or may be i got the size mixed up (second picture) :) in any case, do confirm if the piece in the second picture is 12 Gauge or otherwise.

It's a 12gauge.
http://www.akdalarms.com/mka.html

AK47
25-01-2010, 06:25 PM
@Starfish bro.........Pictures pretty much belying from actual proportions! Sure, it was a 12 gauge bro.

I had this kind of surprise also, when on the same day at P.A.R.A I was taking a close look at the Tanfoglio Force 9mm, which I found quite "bulky", if compared to what I had been seeing on pictures. It's a very fine and balanced thing however. Actually it's the third "depth" dimension, in real, that plays this kind of havoc with us.

psychiatrist-1
12-03-2011, 04:13 PM
Actualy, AKDAL was built for US army but public can buy it too. Its weigt is about 8 pounds and holds 5 shells. I fired this gun last week, range is about 60 yards. price is high as you people are stating. I do n't know what anyone will do with it and I did n't care much about it.

psychiatrist-1
12-03-2011, 04:16 PM
And yes, I am quite sure it is 12 guage shot gun.

Kamran_uk75
12-03-2011, 09:31 PM
@psychiatrist-1
Sir, wats the current price of this gun?

AK47
12-03-2011, 10:43 PM
48K. Lahore.

psychiatrist-1
14-03-2011, 06:57 AM
Kamran Bhi:
In Lahore the price is 48 K-50K.