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TAREEN
19-10-2009, 10:29 AM
Here is my new shotgun. This gun is just out of the box, so lubrication, greasing & polish is still due.

Looks As a first impression, the gun is half as good looking as other O/Us available in the market in the 50k bracket and in no league with the premium brands. Its like Russian Belarus (nick named Roosi) tractor. Its big & ugly but the monster is strong enough in its hydraulics that it can jack itself up unlike any other in the market.

Weight Feels & it is slightly heavier than synthetic finished O/Us. Its taken as an advantage to absorb a portion of kick that cumulates to mild bruises after a days shoot without a padded jacket.

Finish Not a refined or finely finished gun in any way. I was looking for something that I could refer to as 'delicate' or 'flimsy' but couldn't find any. Parts of the gun look like as if they are made for a battlefield rather than casual sports shooting. Thick & solid. It takes more effort to breech open the gun than to open the main gate of my house. Probably because its new and hopefully it will soften before my son inherits it.

AccessoriesComes with only three chokes in total. Nothing else like extensions, pads, 5 chokes etc etc. Manual is an option, sometimes its available in the box.

Performance Thats why I bought it. It was unanimously recommended by all the friends.


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For further details, here is the official site:
http://www.baikalcanada.com/shot_guns_27.htm

HasanJamshad
19-10-2009, 10:45 AM
Congratulations Tareen bhai. I am sure you would love shooting this gun, i am also thinking about buying one.

Ali Akbar
19-10-2009, 10:53 AM
congrats tareen bhai its a lovely weopen

ARMAGEDDON
19-10-2009, 10:58 AM
Tareen sahab, congrats, nice tank

Nabeel
19-10-2009, 11:15 AM
Congrats Tareen Sahib

Topak
19-10-2009, 11:15 AM
nice gun tareen Sb.what a beauty is this..masha Allah.
congratulations and good wishes for hunting
can it hold slug ?

Ahmad
19-10-2009, 11:19 AM
It took lot of effort on our part(mustaner, adeel & your truly ) to get this gun for tareen as he was less than half hearted to buy this, but we had planned before leaving town& we succeeded.
Safe shooting & cheers

Monis
19-10-2009, 11:20 AM
Nice gun TAREEN bhai

Naveed_pk
19-10-2009, 11:27 AM
Congrats Tareen Sahib

Zubair
19-10-2009, 11:30 AM
Congrats !!!

Glocky
19-10-2009, 12:00 PM
Congrats, i think you got a great deal. For that price you cannot even find a decent turkish shotgun which are far inferior. Enjoy, you will not regret buying it.

Starfish
19-10-2009, 12:50 PM
congrats tareen bhai!! as a fellow pakgunner put it, its a tank :P
I hope you enjoy using it soon (the season is upon us :) )

TAREEN
19-10-2009, 02:26 PM
@Ali Akbar, ARMAGEDDON, Nabeel, Monis, naveed_pk, Zubair 723, Glocky, Starfish thats to all of you brothers.


Congratulations Tareen bhai. I am sure you would love shooting this gun, i am also thinking about buying one.
Thanx Hasan bhai. Your purchase will be a complement for this gun.


nice gun tareen Sb.what a beauty is this..masha Allah.
congratulations and good wishes for hunting
can it hold slug ?

Thanx brother. I will try & I'm sure it can. I'll buy some on my next trip to Lahore.


It took lot of effort on our part(mustaner, adeel & your truly ) to get this gun for tareen as he was less than half hearted to buy this, but we had planned before leaving town& we succeeded.
Safe shooting & cheers
There is no doubt about a single word about your statement sir. The credit (or discredit) goes all to you ;) I will say THANKYOU for helping me out with this rational decision.

Ilyas
19-10-2009, 04:39 PM
@Tareen Bhai... did you get this O/U or Baikal MP153... or both ???
If both, then congrats for this one as well :)

NOMI
19-10-2009, 04:50 PM
congrats brother good choice

Cap1
19-10-2009, 07:07 PM
Congrats Tareen sir you got a solid piece at a good price. I was offered a Baikal O/U single trigger @65K a few months ago but it was more than I wanted to pay for it. Happy and safe shooting.

MUSTANIR
19-10-2009, 07:15 PM
@ Ahmad+1

KageFox
19-10-2009, 07:24 PM
Beautiful weapon, Mr Tareen, my heartiest congrats. The wood stock looks absolutely wonderful...

12GAUGE
19-10-2009, 08:21 PM
welcome to the "club Baikal" sir. u'll find once u go russian there is no coming back.

Regards.

Slayerjatt
19-10-2009, 09:03 PM
sir you have indeed bought a true performer MASHAALLAH. count me in whenever there is a multan chapter hunt. congratulations once again. happy shooting.:)

Denovo87
19-10-2009, 09:10 PM
Congrats Tareen, I asked for the gun pics in another thread which I have seen now, what about the pics of gunned?
And donot forget to invite me on your next hunt, want to test my Browning O/U, and not on DOGS for sure ;)

Malik1
19-10-2009, 09:39 PM
Tareen Sb Congrats. I always supported this gun. A work horse. You will not be disappointed INSHALLAH :)

Dr Hanif Malik
19-10-2009, 09:59 PM
i am using baikol sxs made ussr 80/100 codition light weight ejector also, i was thinking to replace with russion o/u but still not success lucky tareen sahib. o/u good gun is only choice of shooter/hunter 2nd to non.

Abbas
19-10-2009, 10:08 PM
Congratulations Tareen ! Good choice, much better than the Turkish variants. InshAllah it will last you a lifetime.

Syed
19-10-2009, 10:38 PM
congrats Tareen bhai

Memon
19-10-2009, 10:45 PM
Brother Tareen ........... Mubarkan .................... Mubarkan.

Dr Zakir
19-10-2009, 10:45 PM
congratulations . i would like your input on its use at range or hunting . if it is any thing like baikal viking then although cheaper then expensive pistols like glock performs as well .

Taurus
19-10-2009, 11:20 PM
Congrats tareen so u change u r mind finally now thats what is called good decision!!!

PrivateEye
20-10-2009, 12:34 AM
Congratulations ! :)

Need to ask some questions that popped-up while watching these beautifully taken pictures.
1. How much shots are to be fired for chokes to pattern perfectly?
2. Do we need to clean and lubricate trigger system also in a new gun? I read some where that we need to clean the whole gun with a solvent and then grease and lube all the mating surfaces; like hinge pin, fore-end iron, hinge pin slot, barrel hook etc.

I'm asking because, I also have plan to buy Izh-27, just waiting for my license. :(

12GAUGE
20-10-2009, 01:11 AM
Congratulations ! :)

Need to ask some questions that popped-up while watching these beautifully taken pictures.
1. How much shots are to be fired for chokes to pattern perfectly?
2. Do we need to clean and lubricate trigger system also in a new gun? I read some where that we need to clean the whole gun with a solvent and then grease and lube all the mating surfaces; like hinge pin, fore-end iron, hinge pin slot, barrel hook etc.

I'm asking because, I also have plan to buy Izh-27, just waiting for my license. :(

hmm.... allow me to throw in my two cents.

1. how many shots...... well, patterns have got nothing do with number of shots fired before getting a decent pattern. in actuality, its the opposite. the more the barrels fouls up and more the barrels heats up, more the patterns get disturbed. in other words, barrel fouling and temperature leads to disturbed patterns.

2. yes its recommended to clean and lubricate the trigger system of a new gun. but not with grease. light oil for fast moving parts and moly grease for pressure points such as choke tube threads, (yes choke tube threads, they encounter pressure not speed, with pressure oil drains out of the threads causing the choke to cease whereas grease stays) hinges, pivots etc.

3. as far as breakopen guns are concerned, I always advise to atleast open up the boxlock and clean everything inside. u'll be surprised to see bright red colored wood shavings inside a Baikal IZH27. a clean receiver is the best insurance against stuck firing pin and doubling issues (both barrels firing at the same time with a single pull of the trigger).

Regards.

PrivateEye
20-10-2009, 01:33 AM
Very first answer from Shotgun Guru .. lol :)

I know Smooth barrels need no break-in. I heard chokes require some shots to pattern decently, not the barrels.
Confirming because i was told so.

Thanks for your precious input sir

@Sohail
Sohail bhai .. can i have your email?

mehranbiz
20-10-2009, 01:48 AM
The Russians have an average life of 90 years, So they manufacture long life arms instead of fancy arms thats much need care

Adeel Ahmad
20-10-2009, 02:20 PM
Tareen Bhai, now this is not fair at all. Purchase of this gun was a story to be told and you just finished it without even telling everyone what experiences we had during the hunt. All the labour that was put in (I litterally mean labour as i had some car trouble) the walks we had while browsing dealers and the karahi of bulbul :)
It took a lot of effort to first convince Tareen Bhai on buying this gun and then one hell of an effort was put in by senior members to listen to dealer.
Price of 43K was supposed to bring lots of Ludian but all senior members were too busy watching (12 Gauge Pay Attention)something to remember Ludian :lol:

Sensei
20-10-2009, 03:16 PM
@ Tareen Bhai, so ease of my heart to see very nicely made pics of your new O/U Baikal,really so beautifully made pics,& thanks
for sharing its detailed FIR with us very well explained,
in 1st pic I would say it is giving a feel of something real strong
and tough,very nice gun Tareen bhai buhat Mubark ho ap ko :)

Ahmad
20-10-2009, 03:21 PM
Well that dealer was horribly talktive, & i was the person who listened him most.

Anaglyphical
20-10-2009, 03:26 PM
Masha"Allah Tareen bhai. good thing you bought. can u kindly tell the exact price for how much you bought and from where and the brand model. as i was looking for russian O/U but i could get none anywhere below 62k. your guidence would be of much help to me.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards.

TAREEN
20-10-2009, 04:10 PM
I wish I had your writing skills Adeel bhai. Nevertheless, you surely spiced up the discussion. Our trips are always a story to be told (without details, sometimes) ahmmm. I enjoyed reading all the points u have mentioned, specially the one with 'listening to Rana sahab' :lol:

@Abbas, Taurus & Malik1...credit goes to all those who convinced me with their sincere suggestions and that definitely includes you.

@Denovo87....sir why don't u visit us sometime on weekend and we can go for a quail shoot. We can always plan something better than dogs, in your honor. ;) Quails are available for few more days and then the duck starts.

Thank you PrivateEye, Taurus, Dr Zakir, Memon, Syed, Abbas, Dr Hanif Malik, Denovo87, Slayerjatt, 12 gauge, KageFox, Cap1, NOMI & Ilyas.

Shariq
20-10-2009, 04:12 PM
Sir you got it at an amazing price. Last i checked it was min 58k. Congratulations.

GatlinGun
20-10-2009, 06:09 PM
Seems like a keeper. Congratulations on the acquisition.

ay_be_why
20-10-2009, 06:22 PM
Well that dealer was horribly talktive, & i was the person who listened him most.

sir i think that is what helped you guys in getting such a nice price... maybe rana sahib just needed and hence, appreciated a good listener. :)

Anaglyphical
20-10-2009, 06:43 PM
Saeen Tareen sahab i didint get my reply..

TAREEN
20-10-2009, 09:10 PM
@Sensei...this thread is dedicated to you brother.

@Anaglyphical, Sqnldr_Shariq & GatlinGun thanx brothers.

@Anaglyphical....Brother accept my apology as I didn't see u'r first post. It came in while I was writing mine so after posting, the browser jumped straight to my own post skipping all the rest.

So, its model is IZH-27EM-1C
12 Gauge, 3" chamber, 28.5" barrel, 3 screw-in chokes, walnut furniture, single trigger without selector.
Bought it for Rs. 43,000 from Sahiwal (a 1000 more than his own purchase price).

The catch is, the dealer is an acquaintance thru our fellow Adeel Ahmad and this was the last piece in his stock that we got @ cost. It surely is much more expensive in the market. Peshawar market has been reported @ Rs. 45k, Lahore Rs. 48k & Karachi Rs. 52k respectively by our members for the same gun.

I hope it helps in some way & u are no more upset with me. ;)

Sensei
20-10-2009, 09:58 PM
I am highly Honored Tareen bhai :) this is your kindness but you are the real hero of this thread no doubt,once again congrats

12GAUGE
20-10-2009, 11:54 PM
So, its model is IZH-27EM-1C
12 Gauge, 3" chamber, 28.5" barrel, 3 screw-in chokes, walnut furniture, single trigger without selector.



correction! IZH-27EM-1C is single selectable trigger (bottom or the top barrel first) with selectable ejector (only the spent shell will eject regardless of the barrel). how? well, just gently push the trigger forward until u hear a slight click. now top barrel will fire first. once u break open the action, the barrel selection will reset to normal (bottom barrel first).

Regards.

Ka_Khan
21-10-2009, 12:25 AM
Congratulations TAREEN.
This O/u matches with your personality.The only thing you need now is gun resting on your shoulder while a Cigar popping out of your lips ! :cool:

TAREEN
21-10-2009, 08:47 AM
@12gauge...thanx for the correction. I missed writing 'switch' at the end, referring to thumb selector. It sure has a trigger selector. And luckily I prefer trigger selector.

@Ka_khan...Thank lala for the compliments. Will buy a cigar and have picture taken on the next shoot, Insha Allah. ;)

Ahmad
21-10-2009, 10:00 AM
Well there is a photo of adeel holding a cig with ka khan in other thread, i think whole multan chapter is going to smoking hot, tareen let me tackle with this audit i am going to have then smoking barrels & smoking cig will be order of the day inshallah

Anaglyphical
21-10-2009, 10:55 AM
Thanks Saeen Tareen Sahab. Masha"Allah you really got a great bargain. This piece of priceless information provided by you would now enable me to take a stand on one position atleast. cheers.
Best Regards.

Ka_Khan
22-10-2009, 01:02 AM
@Ka_khan...Thank lala for the compliments. Will buy a cigar and have picture taken on the next shoot, Insha Allah. ;)

The pic will be completed if you place a 'Cheeta or Sheer' under your feet. :D
Can ask Adeel or Ahmad for one ;)
I hope the difference between the two (cheeta & Sheer not Adeel & Ahmad) have been sorted out !

TAREEN
22-10-2009, 07:46 AM
The pic will be completed if you place a 'Cheeta or Sheer' under your feet. :D

I hope the difference between the two (cheeta & Sheer not Adeel & Ahmad) have been sorted out !
Good that your clarified that cheetah & sher are not Adeel & Ahmad.. :lol: The issue is still under investigation and we are still unable to sort it out as Ahmad bhai is busy with audits.

Ahmad
22-10-2009, 08:11 AM
@ ka khan it is an issue which only chief sb can solve lol

TAREEN
22-10-2009, 08:14 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: spot on

Adeel Ahmad
22-10-2009, 12:04 PM
Well Chief Sahab seems very busy lately.

Aamar
22-10-2009, 12:17 PM
Nice gun, sensible choice , happy shooting :D

TAREEN
22-10-2009, 08:22 PM
Thanx Aamar

Viking
28-10-2009, 03:05 AM
MASHALLAH nice choice brother, share howz your experience going with this gun

TAREEN
28-10-2009, 06:15 AM
Still no shots r fired from it. This weekend I'm taking it for a ride.

TAREEN
03-11-2009, 08:14 AM
Went for an opening shoot with this new gun on Sunday. Shot a box (25) of No.4 Shaheen with one misfire.
Gun is a bit heavy for my comfort. The lower barrel shoots perfectly on my default gun pointing position and the upper needs to be dipped a bit to get the proper placement at around 25 yrds. Beyond that, they go hand in hand.


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A bit of quailing the same evening.
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Dr Hanif Malik
03-11-2009, 08:32 AM
@tareen sahib good shoot good gun once again cong to you,child learning the hunt. time of post pics not still change.

TAREEN
03-11-2009, 10:59 AM
Thanx Dr Hanif malik Sb. My son is an outdoors enthusiast like me so he usually joins me when I'm out.

Zubair
03-11-2009, 12:05 PM
Nice to see FATHER & SON sharing the same hobby... ;)

Salahuddin Ayubi
03-11-2009, 12:16 PM
we are still unable to sort it out as Ahmad bhai is busy with audits.

Audits?

Which Ahmed are we talking about and is he from the auditing profession?

PrivateEye
04-11-2009, 01:35 AM
Went for an opening shoot with this new gun on Sunday. Shot a box (25) of No.4 Shaheen with one misfire.
Gun is a bit heavy for my comfort. The lower barrel shoots perfectly on my default gun pointing position and the upper needs to be dipped a bit to get the proper placement at around 25 yrds. Beyond that, they go hand in hand.


Sir,
Is this with every O/U or just IZH-27 ??

Ahmad
04-11-2009, 10:04 AM
we are still unable to sort it out as Ahmad bhai is busy with audits.

Audits?

Which Ahmed are we talking about and is he from the auditing profession?
he is talking about me & i am not from audit profession, (thanks God). i am from finance side & currently serving for a bank & was suffering from internal audit last week
cheers

Starfish
04-11-2009, 10:52 AM
i am from finance side & currently serving for a bank & was suffering from internal audit last week
cheers
:p lol!
interesting choice of words.

Yardie Jutt
04-11-2009, 11:05 AM
+1 starfish :D

Starfish
04-11-2009, 11:20 AM
lol, I can feel the "suffering" because our internal audit is also in progress. Although I have nothing to do with it but i can see the whole finance department running around scared s**tless :P

Yardie Jutt
04-11-2009, 11:43 AM
@ Tareen sb well-grounded decision and it's a typical baikal massive and robust :)

TAREEN
05-11-2009, 10:05 AM
@Zubair ..... thank you brother.


Sir,
Is this with every O/U or just IZH-27 ??
Well, the good brands (and obviously expensive ones) come preset with point of impact approx. 6" above the point of aim at 40 yards.

This point of impact above point of aim allows the shooter to keep the clay or real bird in view constantly just above the rib. Baikal is not one of those but as with most, they probably follow a set standard adopted by the big names.

In my case, as I was shooting #4 cartridge with improved modified choke in the upper barrel @ around 25 yards, the two factors effecting this setting @ shorter distance (giving much tighter pattern and change in point of impact) had to be adjusted accordingly.

With open chokes and at longer distance, things really don't matter.

@Yardie jutt .... thanx a lot brother.

Ka_Khan
05-11-2009, 07:07 PM
Just saw the pics...beautiful !

Salahuddin Ayubi
05-11-2009, 08:25 PM
i am from finance side & currently serving for a bank & was suffering from internal audit last week
cheers
:p lol!
interesting choice of words.

I can relate to that. I am an Internal Auditor. I hope you recover from IA syndrome soon. Wish you all the best. :)

Ahmad
06-11-2009, 08:34 AM
i am from finance side & currently serving for a bank & was suffering from internal audit last week
cheers
:p lol!
interesting choice of words.

I can relate to that. I am an Internal Auditor. I hope you recover from IA syndrome soon. Wish you all the best. :)
thanks for wishing, ya its done for the moment & will see how they rate us,
cheers

overunder
13-11-2009, 08:46 PM
dear bhai, m in rawalpindi and also want a over under gun for partrige hunting. plz advise me whr i should go. whr i can see variety of over under with reasonable prices. thanks

TAREEN
14-11-2009, 09:03 AM
Pindi / Islamabad members would be of great help in this. But in case, you can consult dealer review thread and get the numbers from there.

BlackCloak
15-11-2009, 01:37 PM
Great buy. Tareen Sahib. Was there a manual along with this? Theres one at http://baikaldeluxe.com/preproducts.php?guntype=Over-and-under%20shotguns&gunid=4
and was wondering if its the same one?

Does any one has an idea of price/availability in Karachi.

Congrats to Tareen Sb once again and happy hunting:)

Maximus
15-11-2009, 09:33 PM
Firstly congrats Tareen bhai! very nice pics too MASHALLAH.






i am from finance side & currently serving for a bank & was suffering from internal audit last week
cheers
:p lol!
interesting choice of words.

I can relate to that. I am an Internal Auditor. I hope you recover from IA syndrome soon. Wish you all the best. :)

lol, it cant be that bad. Even SA was once an experienced external auditor ;)

TAREEN
16-11-2009, 07:46 AM
Great buy. Tareen Sahib. Was there a manual along with this? Theres one at http://baikaldeluxe.com/preproducts.php?guntype=Over-and-under%20shotguns&gunid=4
and was wondering if its the same one?

Congrats to Tareen Sb once again and happy hunting:)
Thanx brother. Thw two models of Baikal (i.e. in O/U & Semi-auto) that we see normally here in the market are not listed in this website although the model number is the same. There is some visual difference in the receiver & trigger color. Even MP 153 is not the same as available here. The manual available is in Russian :)

Ahmad
16-11-2009, 09:14 AM
@ Tareen, keeping your such a long stay in Gulf, you must have some know how about RUSSIANS.:)

GatlinGun
17-11-2009, 10:50 AM
Great buy. Tareen Sahib. Was there a manual along with this? Theres one at http://baikaldeluxe.com/preproducts.php?guntype=Over-and-under%20shotguns&gunid=4
and was wondering if its the same one?

Congrats to Tareen Sb once again and happy hunting:)
Thanx brother. Thw two models of Baikal (i.e. in O/U & Semi-auto) that we see normally here in the market are not listed in this website although the model number is the same. There is some visual difference in the receiver & trigger color. Even MP 153 is not the same as available here. The manual available is in Russian :)

Most of the models for sale here are older models, in moth ball stock for years. All the new ones that come in don't see the light of day. That is why you don't find yours on the website. I verified this with the manufacturer sending them some of the serial numbers i took during window shopping. The guns were new, never used, but manufactured couple of years back.

Unless your gun has a year serial number, 08, 09 etc, it is not of recent manufacture. However, small color differences may only be cosmetic.

12GAUGE
17-11-2009, 01:06 PM
Most of the models for sale here are older models, in moth ball stock for years. All the new ones that come in don't see the light of day. That is why you don't find yours on the website. I verified this with the manufacturer sending them some of the serial numbers i took during window shopping. The guns were new, never used, but manufactured couple of years back.

Unless your gun has a year serial number, 08, 09 etc, it is not of recent manufacture. However, small color differences may only be cosmetic.

Yes! most of the models that we get here are older models cause through whatever channel they get here it takes time. forget russian shotguns, lets talk about chinese CF98 pistols. do u know that the recent import which came like a month or two ago are all 08 manufacturered. do u know why that happens? cause factories sell stuff on "first in and first out" basis.

in my experiece, four to five years are enough for a company to iron out all the flaws in a firearm design. after that it remains pretty much the same thing forever unless they do a major change in the design. even then if u look at the changes, its mostly cosmetic. so it doesnt matter if its a 06, 07, 08 or 09 design.

about not finding the models in the company's website. well, my explaination would be that company usually has different standards depending on destination and importer requirements. for the most part, its the importer that commands what a firearm will be called and how it will look like. any options that the importer desires companies usually oblige by incorporating them in their basic design.

as far as that the particular o/u we are talking about is concerned. u'll not find it in company website as for export market they changed the name to MP27-EM-1C instead of IZH27-EM-1C. same thing just a difference of designations.

Regards.

Whirling Darveesh
18-11-2009, 11:08 AM
according to my information Baikal O/U is coming in Pakistan via smuggling as Russian arms are not officially allowed to be imported in Pakistan. The model available here is originally made for europian market but it some how managed to sneak here. May be some importers are importing it but not in my knowledge. I own this model. No doubt it is robust and time tested. My father owned the old model and hunted with it for twenty years with out any problem or hiccups. Baikal brand is legendary and time tested. It takes years and years of beating. Does some body know where to find cylinder chokes for this model. It is supplied with IC. Need to find cylinder chocke or Skeet Choke.

BERETTA M9 9mm
21-11-2009, 05:05 PM
Congrats bro....

TAREEN
22-11-2009, 08:21 AM
Thankyou my dear.

Leopard
12-09-2010, 06:04 PM
I got Baikal o&u, but only two chokes, (01 & 03). I have tried at Lucky Star, Saddar Karachi but in vain.
If any member has idea, where to buy chokes set for Baikal.

Hamid
12-09-2010, 08:23 PM
I have not seen baikal chokes being sold separately in Pakistan. Try your luck on internet.

Silent killerr
12-09-2010, 09:03 PM
congrats

wasifali89
14-09-2010, 05:15 PM
sir have u tested any other O/U

i am planning to get one instead of a long barrel semi auto.......

what do u think abt the turkish ?

wasifali89
14-09-2010, 07:33 PM
thanks for ur reply........ i am planning for something similar......... what is the difference between the HATSON and APOLLO ??

Leopard
13-12-2010, 02:01 PM
Before going for Turkish, do check Baikal as well.
I had choice for Turkish & Baikal, but I went for Baikal even expensive & lesser choke.
Also depends upon your choice.

BaderJanjua
13-12-2010, 08:16 PM
you bought a workhorse

Leopard
14-12-2010, 06:14 PM
Thanks Bro!

12GAUGE
15-12-2010, 09:29 AM
I got Baikal o&u, but only two chokes, (01 & 03). I have tried at Lucky Star, Saddar Karachi but in vain.
If any member has idea, where to buy chokes set for Baikal.


Kindly try ordering chokes from Briley (http://www.briley.com/). Their chokes are considered the best that money can buy and at the same time at extremely reasonable prices. there are other choke manufacturers (angle port, wad wizard, poly choke) but briley always takes the cake when it comes to patterns (performance).

There is a catch to this "all is well" scenario here. you cannot order from their website due the large volume of Internet related frauds originating from Asia. you'll have to order them via phone. the remaining procedure is the same. pick the choke tube that you want. note down its part number and description and simply call and order away. your chokes will be with you around three weeks time.

Regards.

p.s. if you want to turn your baikal into a "partridge slayer from hell", put Cylinder Choke in bottom barrel and Skeet Choke in the top barrel. if you want to double use it as a skeet gun, put Skeet Choke in bottom barrel and Improved Cylinder in top barrel.

Hamid
16-12-2010, 09:14 AM
Has anyone checked POI of baikal's both barrels? For how much yards, does the gun has a same POI for two barrels while using a certain shot size.

Dr Hanif Malik
16-12-2010, 10:54 AM
@hamid ,angular question,poa should be same in my opinion,but may differ with chokes.

Hamid
16-12-2010, 05:47 PM
@Dr Hanif Malik, sorry for not making myself clear. I was asking for the Point of Impact of the two barrels.

Dr Hanif Malik
16-12-2010, 06:58 PM
mian50 and some other senior members can better describe,i only know the practical,which i can show you on partridges hunt near dina if apolo is free from his urgent jobs

BaderJanjua
17-12-2010, 06:18 PM
Good buy, congrats, it is built like a tank and hardly heats up even with extensive use

shafiq992
05-07-2011, 01:43 PM
Dear mr. Treen, Want to buy the same gun. I have applied for license once will get need to buy this. can you guide me from where to buy and can refr me to some one. and i license we need to write only double barrial or O/U shotgun.. please guide..

Naveed_pk
05-07-2011, 02:07 PM
@ shafiq bro plz tell us which city you belong to . This gun available in lahore asking price 56 k :)

Apalo
06-07-2011, 01:37 AM
nice to recall such a nice guns after few days ")

shafiq992
18-07-2011, 03:15 PM
Can u please let me know the shop name and contact number af you have?

Handsome_Phantom
30-07-2011, 09:26 PM
Great gun. I got mine three days back and fallen in love with it already

MIAN(ch)
02-08-2011, 05:17 PM
To all the hunters
A.A

bikal is good but a heavy shotgun.

Ameer
06-08-2011, 08:51 PM
Great gun. I got mine three days back and fallen in love with it already

Congratulations, what was the deal price?

hunter468
08-08-2011, 02:03 AM
To all the hunters
A.A

bikal is good but a heavy shotgun.

SIR baikal is a all round great gun.
and regarding weight i think the lightest shotgun of the world feels heavy and bad on a bad day of hunting and skeet and vice versa! IMHO

Apalo
08-08-2011, 05:08 AM
Congratulations, what was the deal price?

Ameer brother, smelling some thing new

Ameer
09-08-2011, 03:14 PM
Ameer brother, smelling some thing new

Hehe, thats right Apalo brother. Bought my first o/u shotgun yesterday, its Baikal MP-27EM-1C SPORTING. I was planning to start skeet at POF, upon encouragement/recommendation of Sir 7mm i bought the gun and inshAllah will join the club after Eid. For hunting purpose i will stick to my Bernetta A-303. Apalo brother your sixth sense does work marvelous.

hunter468
09-08-2011, 03:24 PM
Hehe, thats right Apalo brother. Bought my first o/u shotgun yesterday, its Baikal MP-27EM-1C SPORTING. I was planning to start skeet at POF, upon encouragement/recommendation of Sir 7mm i bought the gun and inshAllah will join the club after Eid. For hunting purpose i will stick to my Bernetta A-303. Apalo brother your sixth sense does work marvelous.
congrats brother.
will u b kind enough to disclose price?
regards

Ameer
09-08-2011, 03:44 PM
congrats brother.
will u b kind enough to disclose price?
regards

Ji sir, its 54K.

Syed
09-08-2011, 03:52 PM
Hehe, thats right Apalo brother. Bought my first o/u shotgun yesterday, its Baikal MP-27EM-1C SPORTING. I was planning to start skeet at POF, upon encouragement/recommendation of Sir 7mm i bought the gun and inshAllah will join the club after Eid. For hunting purpose i will stick to my Bernetta A-303. Apalo brother your sixth sense does work marvelous.
AMEER brother mubarik ho

Ameer
09-08-2011, 03:55 PM
AMEER brother mubarik ho

Thankyou sir.

shafiq992
09-08-2011, 04:01 PM
Dear Amer Bro. I will buy this in next 15 days. seems you got nice deal..Congrats
Can you please let me know the shop name and contact so i can get the same.

thanks

Ameer
09-08-2011, 04:04 PM
Dear Amer Bro. I will buy this in next 15 days. seems you got nice deal..Congrats
Can you please let me know the shop name and contact so i can get the same.

thanks

Fakhre Alam arms, Hastnagri, Peshawar. Phone# 091-2217456

shafiq992
09-08-2011, 04:07 PM
thnaks bro

shahroze
11-11-2013, 07:24 PM
@ Ameer How's your baikal sporting going
any update on it would be really appreciated

Surg.Ray
11-03-2014, 02:35 PM
@ Ameer

How's your Baikal sporting going
any update on it would be really appreciated........

Ameer
11-03-2014, 10:42 PM
@ Ameer

How's your Baikal sporting going
any update on it would be really appreciated........
Its going good brother. Its tough enough to be challenged in any contest. No signs of wear and tear yet, although its been used on every type of sports activities like Trap/Upland Shooting. This season i also used it on Ducks.

It has shown good results on every Plate Form. I love it.

Surg.Ray
11-03-2014, 11:18 PM
@ Ameer
Danken Sie

soldier007
30-05-2014, 09:30 PM
hi Guys i have got baikal O/U IZH 27 Em-1C and baikal side by side 43 MP -1C both in single trigger and they are reliable tanks great guns.

Afzaal
31-05-2014, 12:25 AM
Congrats on great pair you bought Insha Allah it will serve your next generations aswell.


hi Guys i have got baikal O/U IZH 27 Em-1C and baikal side by side 43 MP -1C both in single trigger and they are reliable tanks great guns.

soldier007
31-05-2014, 10:14 PM
thanx afzaal bro

Afzaal
01-06-2014, 11:57 AM
No problem bro btw 1c stands for single trigger in Baikal's terms so no need to mention it.

WaseemAkhtar
05-12-2015, 08:13 PM
Nice one.....♥♥♥♥

waqarahmedkhan
06-12-2015, 08:36 PM
Assalamalekum friends I have imz27em1c over under baikal
But I have a problem with this ever time it fire both barrels with one press trigger
(Mera matlb kabi kabar dono barrels pehly fire k sat dono fire hojati ha kia waja ha)
Friends my English is weak therefore I cannot comment s on your threats

Desert lion
09-12-2015, 11:47 AM
Assalamalekum friends I have imz27em1c over under baikal
But I have a problem with this ever time it fire both barrels with one press trigger
(Mera matlb kabi kabar dono barrels pehly fire k sat dono fire hojati ha kia waja ha)
Friends my English is weak therefore I cannot comment s on your threats

Brother study it's key book may be option have it double bang 4year ago I've a Turkish over under the gun have this option double & single fire