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Firepower!
31-12-2008, 11:39 PM
Set for an Ibex hunt this winter. Getting the paperwork and permits over next few weeks.

The question I have is which rifle should I take to this hunt: 30-06 or 300 Win Mag?

Anyone here who has hunted Ibex from 150+ yards?

Firepower!

Firepower!
03-01-2009, 12:46 PM
300 Win. Mag. can actaully out preform 30.06 and 7mm Mag when hitting beyond certain distance. Also I pack much more punch and velocity than 30.06. For example:

200 gr Bullet
30.06 Sprng Muzzle Velocity of 2543 and energy of 2873 at 500 yards MV is 1417 and Energy is 892
300Win Mag Muzzle Velocity of 2930 and energy of 3810 at 500 yards MV is 2030 and Energy is 1840

Malik
05-01-2009, 02:31 AM
use a dragonov for change:)

Firepower!
05-01-2009, 09:59 PM
SVD is great, and do use it for certain things. However, killing Ibex with it is a bit odd, if not being absolutely rude to the poor creature.

Malik
13-01-2009, 12:44 AM
WHEN U R KILLING IT THINK (NOTHING)

Acciprone
13-01-2009, 11:02 PM
http://i442.photobucket.com/albums/qq147/acciprone2009/n502124963_61053_7347.jpg

Thought u guys might like this

Sohail
31-01-2009, 04:39 PM
cool pic acciprone, it lightens up.

regards

Striker1
01-02-2009, 09:01 AM
Yes great pic! Firepower what distance are we speaking off?

Striker1
01-02-2009, 09:09 AM
But hey that's a deer!

Sikander Panhwar
08-02-2009, 02:50 PM
30,06 is ok depanding which mountain u r alocated,i personaly been there some many times for sheep i would recon any magnum best of luck

Ka_Khan
08-02-2009, 07:32 PM
Nice Pic....and any suggestions for the poor Ibex ?:D

Firepower!
12-02-2009, 05:00 PM
IBEX are expensive to hunt. However, I rather have Pakistani hunting them then foriegners since we need educated hunters here who are willing to pay for what they hunt.

If more Pakistanis become paid hunters our wildlife will grown.

Connector
12-02-2009, 05:05 PM
Not just expensive,extremly difficult to hunt.I ve been at it a few time but no luck.Just being honest

Malik1
23-02-2009, 07:10 AM
Brother, I think we conversed at another place about rifle best suited for Ibex. I support .30-06 as I used it. And also if you require some administrative help at Skardu (if you plan your hunt there), do let me know. I can be of some help to you

Naazer
23-02-2009, 12:56 PM
the .30-06 is a better choice-thats what a sindhi friend of mine used for his upcountry hunt and his trophy is beautiful...

Kulachi
23-02-2009, 05:01 PM
My cousin hunts Markhors in Koh Suleman Range every year. The average distance is 150+ yards. His favorite gun is AKM. So far he has 9 remarkable trophies.

Yes, I wonder as well.

Firepower!
23-02-2009, 08:10 PM
Why not 300 Win Mag?

Thank you for the help offer Malik1.

Malik1
24-02-2009, 07:21 AM
Why not 300 Win Mag?


I can not comment as I never used it Brother


And you are welcome

Syed
22-04-2009, 02:53 PM
hahaha nice pic

SanSyed
22-04-2009, 03:20 PM
@fire power
i will recomend u 2 use 30.06 with 150 gr bulit.
i huntd sind ibex with 30.06.
i believe its basicaly shoulder behind the gun.
high power guns r basicaly used by weak hunters.
so 4 Ibex 30.06 is the best R .270 caliber,bcoz of low recoil/straigh traj

Bluff
22-04-2009, 04:01 PM
@FP it depends which area are you going.... except for the past 4 years i have been going for the markhors to takht Salman area... .. the terrain in that area is very hard .... n u have to climb 6 to 8 KM with very heavy loads on you .... despite u have 4/5 trackers and labors... the load consist of camping, food and blah blah (we have to spend 5/6 days over there.... so it is very difficult to carry any heavy gun normally i take Ak 47 or 74 (.222)with 1 mag on it. Normally u execute a 200 yard target over there.
So if u tell me the area and your collection i may help you then.

Glxspk
23-04-2009, 04:24 AM
I've done lotsa Ibex hunting. Take a .270 or a 30-06. Above all make sure you have walking stamina because you'll be doing miles up & down hill. Do not carry extra weight. Even a pistol start to seem like a bludgeon after a few hours after the Ibex.

Faisal Khan
23-04-2009, 04:41 AM
I would highly recommend .300 WIN MAG, with 180grn soft point bullets. Rifle choice is more of a personal thing, to me 30.06 is too slow and does not even come close to .300 Win Mag.

Bluff
23-04-2009, 10:03 AM
if u have only two options i.e 30-06 or .300 mag. i would recommend .300 mag with 150gr soft point.(150 gr has highest muzzle energy and muzzle velocity).
.300 has also a plus point that is low recoil than 30-06.

SanSyed
23-04-2009, 11:56 AM
bro who told u that .300 win mag has low recoil then 30.06,lot of diff
.300 is a high recoil caliber same like .300WSM/300whb mag r .338

HassaanAfzal
23-04-2009, 12:02 PM
Pb discussion is banned

Bluff
23-04-2009, 12:26 PM
bro sansyed i have both .300 and 30-06 .... thats why i said so. more over remington produce a "managed recoil " .300 bullets which cut down further 25% of the recoil.....
Even on bipods the recoil ratio (gravity to Recoil) vector is 66 % for .300 and 69% for 30.06.. .... with 200gr SP

Bluff
23-04-2009, 12:27 PM
@hassan bhai we are just discussing the right rifle for Ibex ;)

SanSyed
23-04-2009, 12:30 PM
not agreed bro.........nice to know u hv bothcalibers.i 2 hv all these calibers even .300whby mag(Blazer)/.300WSM.(browning)
but i feel lot of diff

Glxspk
23-04-2009, 12:31 PM
.300 I havnt had much experiance with. Im sure it's better than 30-06 calibre.

SanSyed
23-04-2009, 12:35 PM
.300win mag/.300whby mag r unnecessary powerful cartridges 4 most of hunt in Pakistan,and many judge its recoil to be disagreeable.Still,those who can manage it ought not wory about over kill;

Bluff
23-04-2009, 12:36 PM
@sansyed....... ok bhai u r right .... but i was telling u what text books are saying and what i felt... no fight

SanSyed
23-04-2009, 12:37 PM
i believe .270win/ 30.06 r the best caliber in pakistan.

SanSyed
23-04-2009, 12:39 PM
i know .300 caliber is much better than 30.06,but we r talking abt the hunt in pakstan.u dont need .300 cal 4 most of hunt in Pak.

SanSyed
23-04-2009, 12:42 PM
bro i m not fight..............i m sharing my personal experience. few days back one of my hunter hunt Blue sheep in Shamshal valley with Remington mod 700BDL,cal 30.06 using 150 gr bullets.if u insist i will post the pic. as u know its very hard and diff u hunt blue ship specially in Pakistan.

Glxspk
23-04-2009, 12:43 PM
I prefer a 7mm Rem Mag any fine day over .270 or a 30-06

SanSyed
23-04-2009, 12:46 PM
American/Europien hunt mostly use .300/.338 calibers bcoz they hv only 1 shot to kill,and they hv paid a lot 4 hunt ,so they dont want to take a 1% risk.
but 70% Russian hunter use 30.06

Ka_Khan
23-04-2009, 08:07 PM
@hassan bhai we are just discussing the right rifle for Ibex ;)
Too much discussion on the choice of Rifle....where is the poor Ibex?didnt find any till the end of the page !

Faisal Khan
23-04-2009, 09:03 PM
I regularly hunt with .300 WBY MAG and .375 H&H Ultra mag. My shots are usually between 100 to 400 yards depending on the game and place where I hunt. In the pictures below you may be able to see the damage done by .300 Wby mag.


http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/Goldentiger77/may1002-1.jpg

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/Goldentiger77/08a.jpg

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt1/Goldentiger77/07.jpg

Ka_Khan
23-04-2009, 11:17 PM
Great Pics Faisal Sahib.

Imu10
23-04-2009, 11:55 PM
nice pics faisal ,but why did u shoot female?

Faisal Khan
24-04-2009, 12:01 AM
Thanks, shooting doe is a requirement per department of conservation. Legally one can take 8 deers and 12 does maximum per season in Va. I always exceed my limit in both.

Bluff
24-04-2009, 09:22 AM
good show Faisal ...

HassaanAfzal
24-04-2009, 11:04 AM
very nice

Bluff
24-04-2009, 11:08 AM
Baki to sab theek hey but IBEX kahan gia.:P

Abbas
24-04-2009, 11:29 AM
Great pictures Fasial.. and I love the little offroader.

Glxspk
24-04-2009, 12:17 PM
Woah, Nice pictures Thats a huge wound on that white tail on the right in the top most picture.

Sohail
24-04-2009, 12:19 PM
yet another feather (hunter) on the cap of pakguns. very well done faisal.

regards

Taurus
24-04-2009, 12:59 PM
Very nice pix bro..but where is the ibex?

SanSyed
24-04-2009, 01:11 PM
nicw show................ but why female???????

Abbas
24-04-2009, 03:54 PM
Cleaning up thread.

Faisal Khan
24-04-2009, 08:05 PM
Great pictures Fasial.. and I love the little offroader.

Thanks, In mountains its nearly impossible to hunt without ATV. I love my Polaris.

Fearless
01-05-2009, 07:39 PM
Nice Pics Faisal Bhai. Sorry but I can't resist saying that in the pics it looks like you've strung them up and made puppets out of them :lol:. I know its probably for skinning, cleaning and gutting etc

Ka_Khan
01-05-2009, 07:59 PM
Dear Faisal Sahib...i would recommend that you post this pics in separate threat under 'Faisal's Hunt' or something.Yesterday i was looking for them and forgot where to find them.Like other PakGuns Hunters have their pics and its easy to get them.