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Khan_G
18-09-2009, 10:51 PM
what is the barrel life of chinese 30 bore pistol ?

Gun_Lover
18-09-2009, 11:04 PM
I think the barrel life of 30 bore pistol is 5000 rounds

Silent killerr
19-09-2009, 10:52 AM
Depend on Type of ammo use

mehranbiz
20-09-2009, 10:53 AM
Depend on manufacturer and use of ammunation, for local made I think 1000 rounds, After that Its go ill like a 80 years patient who have different problems but no solution

XMen
20-09-2009, 10:55 AM
Mostly chinese weapon have near around 5k barrel life

Skeeter60
20-09-2009, 11:01 AM
Pistols usually have a much longer barrel life due to lower pressures and lesser bore friction.
The TTs made in Darra Adam Khel have much longer life as most of these used to be made by cutting 7.62 x 54 R Machine Gun barrels,(these barrels were found in abundance after the Russians left; we had some rfiles out of these barrels for 7.62x 54 R) these were not only top quality forged barrels but were also chrome lined. These barrels would out last the poor quality pistol any time.

Usama
21-09-2009, 12:22 AM
what is the barrel life of chinese 30 bore pistol ?

According to wikipedia
chineese 9mm CF-98 (muzzle life ~ 3000 rds) and NP-42 (muzzle life ~ 10,000 rds)
.30 around 3k rds
Local ones are around 300 rds + and to depends on quality

Agent47
22-09-2009, 02:01 PM
@skeeter.u are very right about the darra tt.
The barrel life depends upon the manufacturer and maintainence of the gun

Enigmatic Desires
25-09-2009, 05:47 AM
only 300. seems like its disposable

Ahmad
25-09-2009, 08:40 AM
I bought a used cz 52 in 94& my round count is more than 3.5k. And it shoots pretty decent till date

ALI GUJJAR
20-07-2010, 11:14 PM
chinese .30 around 5000 rds
Local ones are around 1000 rds + and to depends on quality

Arsenal763
21-07-2010, 09:14 AM
Depend on manufacturer and use of ammunation, for local made I think 1000 rounds, After that Its go ill like a 80 years patient who have different problems but no solution

Sparticas
21-07-2010, 09:58 AM
i think the manufacturers has not mentioned the barrel life of .30 chines, but as far as i ve seen it and heard it from most of its users it has at times crossed 5000 rounds,

msm
21-07-2010, 12:35 PM
@ Skeeter60
Sir after ur reply topic never needs further posts :)

@ Khan_G
one should not worry abt the barrel life, most of the barrels live more than frame / slide. if ur frame and slide are in good condition after few thousand fires u can change ur barrel and ur good to go again, but when ur frame got damaged ur pistol is dead.

if u want to go for 7.62x25 go 4 zastava M57. zastava´s barrels are made of steel marked 13A, forged and cold hammered.this steel is used by zastava for automatic rifles, hunting rifles, machineguns etc

PUNJTANI5
21-07-2010, 01:50 PM
barrel life ususally means the for how many bullets rifling will stay crisp after that the rifling will start to erode away

for 30 china it is 5000 average
for pakistani 3000 - 10000
for german and british 25000
for american 30000
for SS weapons 100,000

rifle barrels have much longer life

i hope u get an idea
and the chrome lined barrrels have a longer life than non chromed ones

a gun still continues to shoot even all the rifling is shot out but the accuracy is undetermined

PUNJTANI5
21-07-2010, 01:55 PM
the mauser c98 broomhandle we get now a days usually have highly eroded riflings and only rudimentry traces are seen

yet they shoot fine although not as much accurately as they were new
yet they fetch very high prices from 50,000 to 150,000

some dealers also stick the buyers or shoqeens with chinese clones of mauser saying it is german mauser b/c of same shape and configurations

sir winston churchil used one as a young lieutenant in army (i think bolo war)

Mani
21-07-2010, 01:58 PM
chinese .30 around 3000 rds

Sparticas
24-07-2010, 03:31 PM
the mauser c98 broomhandle we get now a days usually have highly eroded riflings and only rudimentry traces are seen
(i think bolo war)

+1
but sir i ve seen quite a few mousers with exceptionally clean and defined riffling,

grin313
28-07-2010, 10:17 PM
Punjtani5 bro i hav a query regarding broomhandle. i hav been told (and search on the net also indicates the same) that c96 is designed for 7.63 ( .30 mauser) and not 7.62 (.30 tokarev). later one being a much hotter load is liable to break up c96 eventually. so does the practical experience also suggest the same or it is only a precautionary rumour.

and if this be the case than where to find .30 mauser (7.63 x 25) nowadays. i hav few rounds of prvi partizan - who r rumoured to be manufacturing 30 mauser ammo - but not sure if they r the right choice

ARlover
28-07-2010, 10:26 PM
the mauser c98 broomhandle we get now a days usually have highly eroded riflings and only rudimentry traces are seen

yet they shoot fine although not as much accurately as they were new
yet they fetch very high prices from 50,000 to 150,000

some dealers also stick the buyers or shoqeens with chinese clones of mauser saying it is german mauser b/c of same shape and configurations

sir winston churchil used one as a young lieutenant in army (i think bolo war)

+1 brother

SPAYPANTHER
29-07-2010, 09:47 AM
I don’t think we should worry about barrel life of TT pistol because TT is one and only production whose parts are available easily in Pakistan…

So use your TT as much you can and then order for a good quality barrel and change it with older one…!

hskhan2k2
25-11-2010, 05:23 AM
if using imported bullets then 6000 rds.

wasifali89
29-11-2010, 08:52 PM
@hskhan2k2

it also depends on the care u take regarding cleaning

by the way..... how much do u think in terms of local bullets ?

javed354
01-12-2010, 04:32 PM
Dear Brothers, According to my personal experience (After shooting regularly), local TT’s are not bad at all. They are called unreliable just because of local people’s Bay Emani. I have not found any of local TT problematic.
5 thousand rounds are not a big deal for them. Me and my friend we both are using Chinese made TT called Type 54. We have fired about more then 7000 rounds from it and still nothing has happened.
Lastly, I have only one thing that, DO NOT USE LOCAL ROUNDS IN YOUR PISTOLS OR GUNS EVER. Regards, Javed354

Faisji
01-12-2010, 05:42 PM
Dear Brothers, According to my personal experience (After shooting regularly), local TT’s are not bad at all. They are called unreliable just because of local people’s Bay Emani. I have not found any of local TT problematic.
5 thousand rounds are not a big deal for them. Me and my friend we both are using Chinese made TT called Type 54. We have fired about more then 7000 rounds from it and still nothing has happened.
Lastly, I have only one thing that, DO NOT USE LOCAL ROUNDS IN YOUR PISTOLS OR GUNS EVER. Regards, Javed354

How many rounds through local guns?

javed354
01-12-2010, 06:29 PM
Minimum 5 thousand rounds.

Faisji
01-12-2010, 08:36 PM
Which brand local are these?

javed354
02-12-2010, 12:51 PM
Dear brother Faisji, As i remember locals do not mention their names on it because they have no name but fortunately I remember one. It was stamped, showing Diamond Company on right side and on upper side near sight Hussain or Hassan and sons was written. I really do not know about the availability of said local pistol these days. Dealers know which locals are working good.

Sohail Waheed
02-12-2010, 02:31 PM
Javed sb, i dont believe that local guns can survive up to 5000 rounds. i have personaly seen a chinese TT with some issues after firing of near about 5000 rounds then how can a local gun serve you with perfection after firing such huge quantity of rounds.

Faisji
02-12-2010, 06:48 PM
Javed sb, i dont believe that local guns can survive up to 5000 rounds. i have personaly seen a chinese TT with some issues after firing of near about 5000 rounds then how can a local gun serve you with perfection after firing such huge quantity of rounds.

Exactly what i was thinking

Vik
02-12-2010, 07:37 PM
So two members have objected to 5k rounds thru local TT. PGians point to be noted.

SPAYPANTHER
02-12-2010, 07:56 PM
Noted sir!

javed354
03-12-2010, 11:58 AM
Sohail Sb, it is not to get anyone’s belief. I am talking about my past experience. As I am sure you and other members know as well that no one can’t trust even on foreign made guns (Chaljae to theek warna masla b aa jata hay). I do not know that you were updated or not but one of our friends got problem in his new CZ Tactical Sports before total of 100 fired rounds. The TT I am talking about was purchased in 2006 at the cost of Rs. 8000. At that time said amount was very high for local made TT but it showed really good results. Regards.

Sohail Waheed
03-12-2010, 12:26 PM
Sir, with due respect i am also quoting the above on my personal experience. As per problem in branded handguns then there may be a few variations lets say 1 or 2 pieces in lot of 100 may have some issues. Where as in local guns 1 or 2 pieces works flawlessly in the lot of 100 and i am sure that 1 piece will not last up to 5000 rounds.
On the other hand i am sure that you must have seen the making of these local guns and you must have also an idea regarding the making of branded handguns. Dont you feel any difference in that? You are so much against in using the local ammo then how are you in so much favor of using the local handguns infect these both are made on same standards.

Sohail Waheed
03-12-2010, 12:30 PM
Dear Brothers, According to my personal experience (After shooting regularly), local TT’s are not bad at all. They are called unreliable just because of local people’s Bay Emani. I have not found any of local TT problematic.
5 thousand rounds are not a big deal for them. Me and my friend we both are using Chinese made TT called Type 54. We have fired about more then 7000 rounds from it and still nothing has happened.
Lastly, I have only one thing that, DO NOT USE LOCAL ROUNDS IN YOUR PISTOLS OR GUNS EVER. Regards, Javed354
Sir just read your statement again and i am now totally disagree with you on your words which are in bold.Again with respect you are supporting local guns in this thread and is against them in other threads."Kya ye khulla tizaad nahi".

Khan_G
23-12-2010, 09:17 PM
5000 rounds on local TT. I dont believe it.

mehranbiz
23-12-2010, 10:26 PM
5000 rounds NOT BELEAVE, I saw many people with ill local TT's after few hundred rounds, special one on order or commonly available with any logo, all are produced by idea not on technology and technical data base, Any one can tell which manufacturer have digital equipments to check the material and testing for quality

PUNJTANI5
23-05-2011, 08:32 PM
the desi sasta round is lighter load like 20 rs round

Huzaifa
21-06-2011, 12:31 AM
i think its depends on the brand & luck too