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Abbas
10-09-2009, 01:07 PM
Salams,

Recently there's been some talk going around in the forums about air pistols/rifles. I remember having one of each and going hunting in the ISB naala's every day after school when I was 10 :cool: Used to kill me some birds, rabbits etc.

I went looking for them in storage and found them ! Took some pictures for you guys.


http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Diana1.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Diana2.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Diana3.jpg


My gas operated air pistol. I had a thing for Berreta's even then..

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Daisy1.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Daisy2.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Daisy3.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Daisy4.jpg


http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Diana4.jpg


And when all else failed and the rabbit got mighty pissed then for those moments.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/NumChucks.jpg

12GAUGE
10-09-2009, 01:13 PM
nice stuff Abbas bhai, however I couldnt understand how the pistol works. can u please explain?

Regards.

Abbas
10-09-2009, 01:27 PM
The air pistol uses a cylinder of CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) as a propellant instead of the normal air pump system. A small cylinder of compressed air is inserted into the grip area, the pull of the trigger releases a blast of compressed gas into the chamber projecting the pellet out.

This is a sample cylinder http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510A2MUQi3L._SS500_.jpg or http://www.wighillparkguns.co.uk/uploads/1_1655.jpg

12GAUGE
10-09-2009, 01:31 PM
The air pistol uses a cylinder of CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) as a propellant instead the normal air pump system. A small cylinder of compressed air is inserted into the grip area, the pull of the trigger releases a blast of compressed gas into the chamber projecting the pellet out.

This is a sample cylinder http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510A2MUQi3L._SS500_.jpg or http://www.wighillparkguns.co.uk/uploads/1_1655.jpg

since its compressed gas i'm sure by firing multiple rounds the cylinder should run out of puff. what happens next, u buy new cylinder or there is a way to get it recharged/refilled or something. and more more question how many rounds can u fire with a single cylinder?

Regards

Abbas
10-09-2009, 01:39 PM
That was the frequent problem of gas operated pistols. The cylinder would need to be changed every 50 shots. Some cylinders were refillable but the commonly availble ones were disposable.

Some people also use the soda gas pressure can to refil their cylinders, that gets you about 20 shots.

Another problem with gas cylinders is that the pressure acts funny depending on temperature. If it's too hot or too cold your shot will be inaccurate.

12GAUGE
10-09-2009, 01:45 PM
@Abbas

"gracias a mi amigo"

Recuerdos.

KageFox
10-09-2009, 02:04 PM
Nice stuff, Abbas Bhai. Nice nunchucks, got a pair myself :)

Where'd you get the Daisy-Beretta and the CO2 cylinders from?

Abbas
10-09-2009, 04:05 PM
@12G You're Welcome

@Kagefox I actually dug out the Daisy from storage after 17 years. At that time I got it from duty free and as for cylinders, it was my standing order of a case of 50 from who ever was coming from in abroad :)

I remembered I also had a Daisy Powerline .177 Cal rifle which was my favorite. After rummaging around in the store some more I found that as well ! This was my all time favorite airgun. It was 'pump action', I could pump it vertically ranging from 1 to 10 to varying levels of pressure. If I wanted normal pressure I would pump it 3-4 times, if I wanted high pressure 7, if I wanted to shoot the crap out of something then 10 times. It fired .177 pellets as well as bb's and had a BB storage capacity of 100. Very light weight as well.

Took some more pics !

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/DaisyBB1.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/DaisyBB3.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/DaisyBB2.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/DaisyBB4.jpg


My Arsenal at 11 :)

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/DaisyBB5.jpg

KageFox
10-09-2009, 09:57 PM
So you had the Powerline 860. Does it still work?

I got my dad's Powerline 880 (which was older than me). A beautiful rifle, slightly more powerful than the 860, with a separate lever for pumping instead of the forearm. Very accurate, zero recoil, no sound except that of escaping air and the pellet hitting the target. Over time, the pump got weaker and now the rifle has developed a problem which causes pellets to jam while loading. Reluctantly, I had to give up on it...

Slayerjatt
11-09-2009, 12:19 AM
abbas bhai you learned how to use nunchucks?

KageFox
11-09-2009, 12:22 AM
My Baton/ Nunchucks Combo

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7177/42034389.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5312/40390533.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

Denovo87
11-09-2009, 12:35 AM
Nice collection Abbas, have you ever experienced a nun chuck hit on the elbow while practicing? I did once and believe me it hurted for weeks.

KageFox
11-09-2009, 12:37 AM
I hurt my head once. Thankfully, the chuck was covered in rubber tubing I made for practice.... else I would have been a goner ;)

Slayerjatt
11-09-2009, 12:59 AM
i am planning to learn nunchucks and stick fighting. i knew how to use a nunchucks quite well but that was long time ago.

Abbas
11-09-2009, 01:13 AM
@Kagefox I think it works, I haven't tried it in years but the pump is working well, holding pressure and the bolt and trigger are working fine. Very nice steel numchucks btw. I had one like those as well, they were a bit slimmer.

@Denovo I hit my elbows, face, head lolz but then that was a part of learning. By 14/15 however I was quite good at it. Tried it today, except for the basic few rotations, can't do anything much but then why use numchucks when you have a .357 magnum ;)

MHMalik
11-09-2009, 01:21 AM
ahhhh...

I had a pump daisy..and a crossman with scope. The 7th pump used to be so hard back then.. hehe

And I used cycle ball bearing in transparent packing for the bbs..

Desi pellets would not work though.. they had a thing for getting stuck and were mostly deformed even new. Diana ones in tins were so rare!

Back then everyone had the "2 number charron wali" diana break barrel. I was always undergunned. But it was good fun though!

Ahhh.. memories. I have to find mine too. Will do in a couple of days.. hehe

@Abbas thank you sir for the nostalgia trip!

Cap1
11-09-2009, 07:03 AM
I went looking for them in storage and found them
Sir I will be happy to store them for you ;)
PakGuns would have been founded 20 years ago if the internet net had been common back then :P

Topak
11-09-2009, 04:05 PM
by the way guns are very nice and are in wish list of every hunter or shooter.they are in good condition even after 17 years...

I could pump it vertically ranging from 1 to 10 to varying levels of pressure. If I wanted normal pressure I would pump it 3-4 times, if I wanted high pressure 7, if I wanted to shoot the crap out of something then 10 times.

so that dealer was right and true man who said... more you pump more the gun will get the power... hahahaha :lol:

Malik1
11-09-2009, 07:20 PM
Nostalgia gents. I saw these air guns and they reminded me of my fathers air gun, BSA .177. I also, like so many other pak gunners, started my hunting with that air gun in 1974-75. Used to hunt small birds especially doves. We were then at Mangla. I used to go out near the bush and with my friends used to do a lot small little hunting and then it used to be a talk of the class for next couple of days. I can not find that air gun now as my father retired in 80 and shifted accommodation. In that move we lost it some where.

JunaidKhan
11-09-2009, 09:31 PM
abbas bahi please can u tell me where r cylinders of CO2 avaiable?i have have a air pistol.

Abbas
12-09-2009, 03:36 AM
@Cap1 Lolz. You're right, one of the first thing I did when I first got on the internet was look for cylinders for my airpistol.

The day you give a kid an airgun is the day a gun enthusiast is more, it's built right into our DNA. Btw those who graduate from airguns to firearms usually shoot very well as they've had years of basic training, the stance, trigger finger control, breath control and patience to wait for the shot. They are generally also much more responsible gun owners as they know what damage an airgun can cause so they well understand what an actual firearm does.

@JunaidKhan I have no idea about the cylinders as I haven't used them in more than 17 years ! I used to get them from abroad at that time. Btw CO2 guns in my opinions are more or less a waste of money.

Thinking and playing with my airguns these two days has reminded me what a joy this was. It's a good sport all in it's own and there is no restriction to the use of it even in your front lawn and the ammo is dirt cheap ! I'm thinking about getting a upgraded air rifle. Anyone has any idea's as to which ones are available in the market and what should I be looking at ??

KageFox
12-09-2009, 05:21 AM
For a budget around 20K, I'd recommend a Gamo Shadow 1000. I have one, as do many of our members. It shoots well, is fairly powerful and pretty accurate, though not as much as a target rifle. Also take a look at the Gamo Hunter 440, which is essentially the same thing, exceptions being stock and sights (poly vs wood, millimetric vs micrometric), and slightly more expensive.

For a better budget, search for a Diana side-lever. Dianas are built to last...

Irttyza
13-09-2009, 01:41 AM
Excellent thread reminded me of my "Daisy gun" days.

Abbas
16-09-2009, 07:54 PM
Went to the market today and a price update. Gamo 1000 is indeed 20 K and Diana 35 is 30 k.

Airgunner.22
17-09-2009, 12:07 AM
If you bargain, you can bring it down to 17.5 k. It is a good gun, the shadow.

PrivateEye
17-09-2009, 07:03 PM
Checked the market today. last they offered was 20k
Can you refer anyone who can sell one for less?

KageFox
17-09-2009, 07:08 PM
I got it for 17-18K in June 2008.

Try and see if they will bring the price down if you buy a few ammo boxes... that worked for me (by a slight margin)

Salahuddin Ayubi
07-10-2009, 09:23 AM
Checked the market today. last they offered was 20k
Can you refer anyone who can sell one for less?

Try Shaheen Shop at Lucky Star. A little ahead on the left side of Mainsfield Street Saddar. Karachi

Dr Hanif Malik
08-10-2009, 07:52 PM
hellow my all respectfull i bought gamo model not known looking very small and smart when i go to gunsmith for spring changing when he opened the gun,parts of guns were like taperecorder i confuse to see that and sell my gun in 3k about shadow 1000, parts may more powerful?reliable...... abbas bhy do you want to sell one of your air gun i like dove hunting near distt khushab

Dr Hanif Malik
08-10-2009, 07:57 PM
Went to the market today and a price update. Gamo 1000 is indeed 20 K and Diana 35 is 30 k.
abbas bhy very nice airguns and other cllections i love airguns but more expansivs do you want to sell one of your guns.

Salahuddin Ayubi
08-10-2009, 08:51 PM
@ Abbas,

I'm interested too. If you want to sell your two air rifles, I'll pick 'em up on my next visit to LHR, which is in Feb. Just let me know.

Dr Hanif Malik
09-10-2009, 08:48 AM
one for me if he agree

Enigmatic Desires
09-10-2009, 11:27 AM
@ Abbas

I remember the Diana .177.. Thats how I leant to shoot.. for the 1st time.. No comparison with the desi break barrels.

@KF.. When I was your age.. There was a complete ban on Nun chuks.. in Karachi... :(

Which perhaps is just as well... for the well been if my head...

KageFox
09-10-2009, 12:25 PM
Must have been a phadda weapon in your time... not ours, though

Salahuddin Ayubi
09-10-2009, 12:43 PM
Nothing is more satisfying (also painful) than using bare knuckles in a phadda.

KageFox
09-10-2009, 12:52 PM
Unfortunately, these days, melee weapons do not seem to be the norm...

ali butt 124
10-10-2009, 03:57 PM
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khakiMB
12-10-2009, 03:30 PM
@Abbas,

Funny, I too used my airguns in the nallas and streets of Islamabad. Took my Diano out and will clean it today. My air pistol spring powered.

KMB

fluffmaster
03-04-2011, 10:33 PM
nice thread,,,beautiful pics,,,thoughtful reminisces,,,really nostalgic as one member put it...It feels nice to be part of a decent, courteous and sensitive crowd