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uzair859
08-09-2009, 12:36 AM
i want to share the zigana sports pics which i have purchased few months bak and couger all the way is very common in all pakguners ......
http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1584/76964386.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1R54Ai)

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2350/55297600.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1R5yw0)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1492/86424836.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzA1yJ)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/903/90535401.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzAqv9)

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9544/62790083.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzAAtJ)

http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/3400/99414251.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzAKsi)

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5576/76752974.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzB3pr)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9075/69292313.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxzBkSr)


Main Review here http://www.pakguns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2324&p=8 (Post 185)

mehranbiz
08-09-2009, 12:41 AM
Maybe the difference is barrel length, Zigana sports have 5 inches barrel

uzair859
08-09-2009, 12:46 AM
its quit reliable weapon zigana sports version not tht much jerk like cougar

KageFox
08-09-2009, 12:48 AM
Does the Zigana have adjustable sights?

Btw, nice pistols.

Khalidsh
08-09-2009, 12:50 AM
Zigana sports is really a nice gun. It has ventilated barrel. Plus thing is its accuracy at 75 meters! Thats the feature which makes it stand out from the competition.

SAJJAD ALI
08-09-2009, 12:56 AM
nice pistols How much you paid for zigana sport.

uzair859
08-09-2009, 12:58 AM
well yes it has ajustable site i have paid 53 thousand 3 months bak for it

a55kika
08-09-2009, 01:02 AM
I like the exhaust system :D

a55kika
08-09-2009, 01:32 AM
well yes it has ajustable site i have paid 53 thousand 3 months bak for it
Aim Order : Fixed Square Front Sight - U-Shaped Rear Sight
Only the Zigana F and Zigana C45 have rear adjustable sights.

Memon
08-09-2009, 01:42 AM
Nice pistols ................ and nice buy in 53k

uzair859
08-09-2009, 01:45 AM
thanks for ur veiws abt this weapon im true weapon lover

Enigmatic Desires
08-09-2009, 04:23 AM
Beautiful guns U have there.. I saw the Zig at AL haris.. but it loked kinda big for CC

Malik1
08-09-2009, 12:18 PM
Beautiful guns U have there.. I saw the Zig at AL haris.. but it loked kinda big for CC

With thgese specifications Zigana S or Zigana T appear to be big for CC but they are lovely pistols

Zigana S
Lenght : 214 mm
Height : 142 mm
Width : 37 mm
Lenght Between Sights : 174 mm
Barrel Lenght : 130 mm

Zigana T
Lenght : 220 mm
Height : 141 mm
Width : 34 mm
Barrel Lenght : 130 mm
Line of Sight : 158 mm

Silent killerr
08-09-2009, 12:28 PM
nice gun

ALI BABA
08-09-2009, 01:55 PM
bro
i have seen zigana its auto and auto gun discution is ban in this site
where akdall ghost is known for miss fire or bullet sticks in mag esp yhe last one due to the mag spring

uzair859
08-09-2009, 03:06 PM
well in manual its a perfect work horse but frm there other models its slim and grip is very handy..

a55kika
08-09-2009, 03:19 PM
bro
i have seen zigana its auto and auto gun discution is ban in this site
where akdall ghost is known for miss fire or bullet sticks in mag esp yhe last one due to the mag spring
LOL!no it's not.You probably saw the Zigana otamatik' thread on youtube.That was a modified Zigana F.

Malik1
08-09-2009, 05:46 PM
I agree, Zigana (neither T nor S) is fully automatic. There is a special version of Zigana meant for law enforcement which is fully auto

uzair859
08-09-2009, 06:04 PM
i have seen tht clip as well on utube it looks cool

KageFox
08-09-2009, 06:25 PM
Does the Zigana Sports live up to its name, meaning, is it more accurate over other similar guns?

Khalidsh
08-09-2009, 06:32 PM
An absolute accurate weapon. Surely not a cc weapon.

uzair859
08-09-2009, 06:33 PM
its quit very much accurate ...i dun know why ppl didnt purchased yet im the first to post this gun ...at least these gunz dun have any miss fires like taurus do ..

a55kika
08-09-2009, 07:18 PM
Zigana has been up and on for over 100 yr's!!!No kidding.At first they would only produce guns locally.They started off with single shot rifle's.Saw it on their website.Oh wait!That was sarsilmaz :P
"TISAS" manufacture's ZIGANA and has got a very good reputation.

12GAUGE
08-09-2009, 07:43 PM
Tisas is quiet famous in Turkey, infact some say its the only company in Turkey that makes handguns of original design, not copied/cloned stuff. their handguns are used by Turkish Military units and some security companies. infact their Zigana is used many Turkish military units.

Regards.

Dr Zakir
08-09-2009, 07:54 PM
Baikal is the best

Dr Zakir
08-09-2009, 07:57 PM
Baikal is the best

12GAUGE
08-09-2009, 08:06 PM
Baikal is the best


+++++++++++1 Dr. Sahib.

Regards

uzair859
08-09-2009, 09:09 PM
i was wondering to buy baikail but see a exploded pistol in a topic islia im confused how is its fininshing dr sahab ?

Ilyas
08-09-2009, 09:19 PM
i was wondering to buy baikail but see a exploded pistol in a topic islia im confused how is its fininshing dr sahab ?

Well Bro, as many of our members prefer to describe it. "Baikal Viking is built like a tank". Solid n rugged, but if you are looking for fancy finishing, then IMHO it's not what you would expect. If you just look at the slide, it seems as if made it's made by someone at home. But those who have these, functionally find it very solid, mean n impressive.

12GAUGE
08-09-2009, 11:09 PM
@Ilyas

Ilyas Bhai, u'r absolultey right, the finish on Baikal Viking is very crude, infact I might agree with somebody calling Baikal Viking an ugly gun however the best thing about viking is that if u look closer at its parts u'll see that they are designed to be tough and take serious abuse. I opened the slide of Viking and compared it side by side to a CF98, Viking has steel inserts through out its polymer frame. even the metal slide is almost three times thicker when compared with a CF98. the main spring inside Viking is almost double the thickness of CF98. even the barrel is pretty thick when compared. the most important difference (thats why I'm intentionally listing it at the end) is that the chamber is sort of reinforced by a thick metal square type thingy at the end of the chamber.

after seeing the differences, i guess they are right when they say, Baikal is built like a tank, ugly and tough.

Regards.

Dr Zakir
08-09-2009, 11:14 PM
I have used baikal which is owned by 12 gauge and it is a solid built pistol . What u can say it is ak 47 of handguns after shooting I have added to my next buy list . I will compare it with a usp

KageFox
08-09-2009, 11:36 PM
till some time ago, the Tokarev was the Ak-47 of pistols, now it seems that another Russian masterpiece has succeeded its throne. The Baikal may not be worthy in the looks department, but it sure does nicely as far as being robust and reliable is concerned.

One thing, the Baikal isn't compact enough to be considered for concealed carry, is it?

Ilyas
08-09-2009, 11:45 PM
@KageFox... I think it's a bit bigger for CC.

12GAUGE
08-09-2009, 11:46 PM
till some time ago, the Tokarev was the Ak-47 of pistols, now it seems that another Russian masterpiece has succeeded its throne. The Baikal may not be worthy in the looks department, but it sure does nicely as far as being robust and reliable is concerned.

One thing, the Baikal isn't compact enough to be considered for concealed carry, is it?


does an AK47 come with a built in mp3 player? come on man, Viking may not be longer in length but its alot chunkier compared to Glock, Taurus 24/7 and other similar pistols with square (flat top) designs. no way anybody can conceal it unless u'r King Kong.

Regards.

Zubair
09-09-2009, 12:52 AM
@Ilyas

Ilyas Bhai, u'r absolultey right, the finish on Baikal Viking is very crude, infact I might agree with somebody calling Baikal Viking an ugly gun however the best thing about viking is that if u look closer at its parts u'll see that they are designed to be tough and take serious abuse. I opened the slide of Viking and compared it side by side to a CF98, Viking has steel inserts through out its polymer frame. even the metal slide is almost three times thicker when compared with a CF98. the main spring inside Viking is almost double the thickness of CF98. even the barrel is pretty thick when compared. the most important difference (thats why I'm intentionally listing it at the end) is that the chamber is sort of reinforced by a thick metal square type thingy at the end of the chamber.

after seeing the differences, i guess they are right when they say, Baikal is built like a tank, ugly and tough.

Regards.

Very rough & tough finish. I used PETROLEUM JELLY to smooth things out initially

uzair859
09-09-2009, 01:07 AM
after veiwing the veiws abt baikial ill soon buy one INSHALLAH ....wht u guys says stroeger semi auto short gun inertia one is worth buying???or any other reliable rough tough short gun for self defence in semiauto

12GAUGE
09-09-2009, 01:51 AM
after veiwing the veiws abt baikial ill soon buy one INSHALLAH ....wht u guys says stroeger semi auto short gun inertia one is worth buying???or any other reliable rough tough short gun for self defence in semiauto


baikal wins over stoegar cougar hand down. about stoegar inertia operated shotgun, well, I would recommand that u seek other options such as Baikal mp 153 or Turkish Hatsan Escort. as far as self defense with a semi auto is concerned, autoloaders are never advised for HD/SD role but if u insist on using a semi auto and dont want to sacrifice on the reliability aspect I would recommend SAIGA 12 SEMI AUTO SHOTGUN. its the best semi auto shotgun ever conceived (in my opinion). others might say benelli m3 or AA12. but i would say benelli and AA12 just reinvented the wheel. a wheel already invented in the form of Saiga12 by Izmash of Russia. they are no match for the SAIGA12 that is based on venerable Avtomat Kalashnikova (Kalashnikov automatic rifle-AK) design. we all know AK design is the most robust of firearm designs whose brute reliablity has never been matched by any American or European design.

To me Saiga12 represents the next phase in evolution of combat shotguns.

Regards.

uzair859
09-09-2009, 02:10 AM
whts the price of saiga12 ??12guage

12GAUGE
09-09-2009, 02:44 AM
whts the price of saiga12 ??12guage


cant say for sure but I think it around 150K + or something like that.

Regards.

Enigmatic Desires
09-09-2009, 03:30 AM
I saw the Saiga 12 in a gun magazine an fel in love wiht it on the spot.. I concur with 12 guage's opinion.. The Saiga 12 SWAT version is probably the most advanced 12 guage combat system in the world.

Its so popular that I have seen entire shops in karachi with nohting but Saiga 12 clones on display.

In fact its difficult to go into a shop that retails local weapons and not c a saiga 12 clone the moment U enter..

How ever even the basic units if available would not be less then 175 according to DAAD.. and thats pretty steep for a Russian shotgun

uzair859
09-09-2009, 03:50 AM
wht r other options than saga 12 ??? in ur opinion ?

Enigmatic Desires
09-09-2009, 04:21 AM
For SD/HD??

depending on your price range around.. 40K. the maverick pump would just hit the spot!

12GAUGE
09-09-2009, 01:04 PM
For SD/HD??

depending on your price range around.. 40K. the maverick pump would just hit the spot!


+1

Regards

uzair859
09-09-2009, 03:28 PM
ahan maverick pump action i have checked tht gun at arms shop few months back u guys owned maverick ?

Enigmatic Desires
10-09-2009, 03:11 AM
I have'nt but the DSA is a clone of the gun. which is rather like the mossy 500 series..

Its a gr8 gun for sh/hd

12GAUGE
10-09-2009, 12:52 PM
I have'nt but the DSA is a clone of the gun. which is rather like the mossy 500 series..

Its a gr8 gun for sh/hd

thats a rather complicated way of putting it. u could have said, "DSA is the clone of mossy500" :D

Regards.

a55kika
13-09-2009, 04:17 AM
Nice bedsheets :D
did yer mama get em' for you?
Just kidding :P

Enigmatic Desires
13-09-2009, 04:23 AM
I have'nt but the DSA is a clone of the gun. which is rather like the mossy 500 series..

Its a gr8 gun for sh/hd

thats a rather complicated way of putting it. u could have said, "DSA is the clone of mossy500" :D

Regards.

Actul;y I was always under the impression that teh DSA shoter was the mossy clone. while the security was more based on the mav..

uzair859
14-09-2009, 01:55 AM
well dsa is local i dun trust on them because they dun using any gud metalargy im thinking abt stroeger 2000 semiouto seems relaible have any reveiews abt it ?

12GAUGE
14-09-2009, 04:59 AM
well dsa is local i dun trust on them because they dun using any gud metalargy im thinking abt stroeger 2000 semiouto seems relaible have any reveiews abt it ?


never judge a book by its cover buddy, being a desi firearm in no way implies that the firearm cannot demonstrate/possess good metallurgy. infact, DSA shotguns are made from 4140 alloy steel. the same material ur precious stoegar 2000 is made of.

DSA barrels are machined from imported virgin 4140 chrome-moly steel and receivers are made of aviation grade aluminum on CNC machines. similarly, firing pins and bolt assemblies are heat treated, conforming to international standards.

Regards.

Dr Zakir
14-09-2009, 12:37 PM
dsa shooter has a very nice finishing and if not seen the labels you can easily take them from american pump action

uzair859
15-09-2009, 05:50 PM
well u guys have any pics of dsa gun ....i really feel like have a luk on it after going through ur comments

musta ali
30-09-2009, 11:07 PM
asalam o alaiqum,guyz please tell me abt zigana sport,just bought a month ago,had n e 1 used it,
please give suggesions

AK47
30-09-2009, 11:11 PM
Welcome Musta Ali! Look for your info in our section of Handguns. There is plenty of stuff for you there, no need for a new topic!

mehranbiz
02-10-2009, 12:12 AM
Zigana sports and Zigana T both are long barrel, only they claims 100 meter effective range other handgunner websites claims only 50-75 effective range, musta ali do u check it or any member have experience about the range of Zigana compare to other handguns

Rameez Saqib
21-12-2009, 01:23 AM
Today i went to gun shop in hyderbad n saw ZIGANA SPORT 9mm in black. Shopkeeper ask 52K final . Gun is aewsum in looks but the size is to big to fit in hands and shopkeeper told me that this gun is available in only one size having the magzine capacity of 17 n 19 rounds.
or my other option is turkey MC21
I m CONFUSED to buy plz share your experience.. waiting 4 ur responce ..

http://s3.postimage.org/vkxLi.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqvkxLi)

AK47
21-12-2009, 01:56 AM
@Rameez...........Well, we already have some threads on this gun, if you look around in the forum, under handguns. I suggest you to. Yet, while we're at it, and if the gun above, is the one you saw at the dealer, and I doubt it a bit, coz the model with the ported barrel is not very common, indeed it's a beauty if one could compromise with it's size.

I believe, it's a reliable handgun as such, yet more suitable for range firing and HD. Course not for CC, SD. Bear in mind, it must be quite accurate as such, and above price seems reasonable. I cannot say about the MC21, but of what is heard, it seems another option for the Cougar. I'd still prefer the latter on basis of popularity and Beretta trade mark.

Sensei
21-12-2009, 02:27 PM
+1 AK47
well Zigana Sports at 52k sounds amazing ??? :cool: I think it
was more expensive few months back anyway 52k real good

Rameez Saqib
21-12-2009, 07:24 PM
AK47 @ thnks 4 responce
so can i go 2 avail this option ????

Rameez Saqib
21-12-2009, 07:25 PM
Sensei @ wt was the price at few months back ?

Sensei
22-12-2009, 02:07 AM
@Rameez brother though one of our member has bought same gun for 53k may be 2 month ago but I asked it for 65k nearly 6 month ago in karachi

Rameez Saqib
22-12-2009, 02:39 AM
Sensei @ thanks alot sir

Rameez Saqib
22-12-2009, 06:06 AM
Dear members INSHALLAH tomorrow i m going to buy something.
My options are...
1.zigana sports
2. Taurus 24/7 or 809
3. CM9
4. MC21
5. or any other popular 9mm in square in shape and with in the range of 60k

AK47
22-12-2009, 09:25 AM
@Rameez..........I must say you have a choice for some of the"odder" types of guns. CM-9, Zigana, 809, MC21 all are some of the fewer used guns amongst our members. Whu don't you go for something more traditional, reliable, resale-able? Honstly, I cannot suggest you anything but a Viking MP446, Stoeger Cougar, Taurus 909, or CZ-999.

If, however, you still opt for something odd, well, then try to look out for the "Tanfoglio force", 9mm handgun. It's a clone of the CZ-75, an Italian make, yet assembled in Philippines by Armscor. A reliable handgun, beautiful, squarish as you desire, high cap mag, and even got the tactical rails to it. I'm sure you'd like it, if I was to go for another 9mm now, I'd for sure take it any given day, provided it's available. In fact, I wouldn't rush into any deal, but try to look around for it a few more days, even order it, if possible and wait a bit longer, before I take any of those things you mention above. Let me see, if I've a pic of it in my database.

This is the Standard version:

http://s2.postimage.org/1ipAN9.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Ts1ipAN9)


This is the Compact version:
http://s2.postimage.org/1ipFMr.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Ts1ipFMr)

Rameez, above models are not displayed with rails. The one we've in Pakistan is with rails and looks even better than those above. This was just for you idea.

I had better and totally "mouthwatering" pics of this gun in my database, but seems like they've been deleted somehow. Basically, as you'd notice, it's a CM-9, yet this an Italian product, whereas the other one is a Turkish. I'd for sure take the Tanfoglio between these two. I suggested you this gun only because you seem to have a choice for the more rare ones. Otherwise, look at the other options above. Hope to have helped you fairly. Regards.

Rameez Saqib
23-12-2009, 01:14 AM
AK47@
sir very 1st i m thankfull to u bcuz u gave me such a gud responce..
INSHALLAH i will go to c wt u told me and decide wt to buy..
This is my id buntykhan15@hotmail.com kindly add me

Rameez Saqib
23-12-2009, 01:18 AM
Sensei@ can u plz tell me the name of the member who bought this???

Yoosha
23-12-2009, 01:21 AM
my suggestion is go for MC21....
its more robust, solid, tank-like, and looks much better! :P

and the most accurate of all guns iv fired

Sensei
23-12-2009, 01:46 AM
@Rameez brother not exactly remembered but just check the
tpoics one by one at handguns thread hope ypu will find it :)

Rameez Saqib
23-12-2009, 05:06 PM
Sensei@ ok sir

Rameez Saqib
23-12-2009, 05:10 PM
Yoosha@ thanks 4 suggestion

Dr Zakir
23-12-2009, 11:39 PM
rameez i think your first buy should be a reliable handgun. then for second gun u can buy and test and share with us what u experience. but your sd / hd weapon should be time tested

Rameez Saqib
25-12-2009, 02:13 AM
uzair859@ hv u ever seen the compact model of zigana spots or smaller from thiss model?. Cuz every thing is fine in this gun xcept its size ... i saw the 10 shoot zigana sport on web site but i dnt think it is aivilable in pakistan ..

uzair859
25-12-2009, 04:15 AM
well i have seen few other model of zigana but among those its has very nice grip and have gas realease barrel it costed me 53 6six months back

uzair859
25-12-2009, 04:19 AM
well i have seen few other model of zigana but among those its has very nice grip and have gas realease barrel it costed me 53 6six months back

Sensei
25-12-2009, 04:35 PM
well i have seen few other model of zigana but among those its has very nice grip and have gas realease barrel it costed me 53 6six months back

@Rameez brother it was Uzair actually who bought Zigana sport at 53k my bad right on his own thread I missed him I am sorry Uzair dear :cool:

Sensei
25-12-2009, 11:21 PM
uzair859@ dear my ques is about zigana sports nt simple zigana...

Dear Rameez plz go through this link it will help you :cool:

http://www.trabzonsilah.com/english/index.php?link=tabancalar

Dr Zakir
27-12-2009, 09:35 PM
i was thinking of buying one but was told that different parts get pretty loose after some time

Rameez Saqib
29-12-2009, 12:14 AM
Dr Zakir@ wt about mc 21 hv u ever test this weapon???

Anthrax
18-01-2010, 09:33 PM
Congratulations on your purchase :)

Don't forget to post some pics.

krazy009
18-01-2010, 10:23 PM
congrats bro....post some pix....

Usama
19-01-2010, 01:09 AM
@ razmataz
Nice buy :) and where are the pics..??

razmataz
19-01-2010, 08:55 AM
Thanks guys will post pics soon INSHALLAH.

Vik
19-01-2010, 11:23 AM
Hello to everyone, I purchased a Zigana Sport 3 weeks back. Bought it NIB for 53K from Mokal Arms.
I have put around 150 rnds chinese through it with out any FTF FTE or jams. It has a decent finish for the price. Well balanced, the recoil is pretty soft that is prolly due to the compensator. Its a large frame handgun and weighs 980 g
Mag capacity is 15 rnds and the second mag is 17 rnds.
I recently tried this russian ammo steel case and out of 20 rnds there was one faliure to eject.
Iam fairly new to guns and previously owened a 92FS clone.
One issue I have with my" Zig". Which is that a zigana sport has a rare adjustable sight. The manul shows how to adjust the sight and at the end of that page it says "only for products with adjustable sights"
I don't see the adjustment screws on my sight. I don't know if it comes in fixed sight. Should I go back to the dealer? Another thing is that the gun shoots low quite low if aim using the sights but if I'm point shooting its not that bad?
Any comments/recommendations would be really helpful.

I have seen one Khi dealer trying to sell It for 100K plus. You are lucky as far as price is concerned.
My humble opinion is that use it for sports(target shooting only).

Zhatash
19-01-2010, 11:26 AM
Congratulation razmataz.

Zubair
19-01-2010, 12:35 PM
Hello to everyone, I purchased a Zigana Sport 3 weeks back. Bought it NIB for 53K from Mokal Arms.
I have put around 150 rnds chinese through it with out any FTF FTE or jams. It has a decent finish for the price. Well balanced, the recoil is pretty soft that is prolly due to the compensator. Its a large frame handgun and weighs 980 g
Mag capacity is 15 rnds and the second mag is 17 rnds.
I recently tried this russian ammo steel case and out of 20 rnds there was one faliure to eject.
Iam fairly new to guns and previously owened a 92FS clone.
One issue I have with my" Zig". Which is that a zigana sport has a rare adjustable sight. The manul shows how to adjust the sight and at the end of that page it says "only for products with adjustable sights"
I don't see the adjustment screws on my sight. I don't know if it comes in fixed sight. Should I go back to the dealer? Another thing is that the gun shoots low quite low if aim using the sights but if I'm point shooting its not that bad?
Any comments/recommendations would be really helpful.

Congrats. I also bought the same gun last week , all thanks to ALLAH. I will take it to range INSHALLAH to test it for the first time. The adjustable sight is a seperate 'purchase'. I will be buying its ADJUSTABLE SIGHT & ORIGINAL RUBBER GRIP soon, INSHALLAH.

razmataz
19-01-2010, 01:12 PM
@vik and Zhatash
Thanks

@zubair
Thanks bro. Where are u getting the rubber grip and adjstable sight from and for how much. Cuz I asked the guy I bought it from he didn't have the grip.
Please let me know.

Naveed_pk
19-01-2010, 03:18 PM
Congratulation nice purchase :)

Ali Akbar
19-01-2010, 05:20 PM
@razmataz buddy nice purchase and happy shooting

Zubair
19-01-2010, 05:28 PM
@vik and Zhatash
Thanks

@zubair
Thanks bro. Where are u getting the rubber grip and adjstable sight from and for how much. Cuz I asked the guy I bought it from he didn't have the grip.
Please let me know.

Available at ORIENT , NILA GUMBAD

Gunpsycho
19-01-2010, 06:50 PM
@Razmataz Bro nice purchase try to post some pics :)

razmataz
19-01-2010, 09:47 PM
These are mobile uploads. Hope it works
(Img)http://mobth957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/th_utf-8BSU1HMDA0MDctMjAxMDAxMTQtMjMzN.jpg(/img)

razmataz
19-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Don't think the quality is good ill just do it properly will post some in a bit inshallah.

wittycranium
19-01-2010, 10:20 PM
Congrats on the purchase. :)

The pic I see in the link you posted is tiny.

I'll be waiting for a good pic so that we can all appreciate your decision.

Manj
19-01-2010, 11:00 PM
nice purchase at a reasonable price. congrats

Salahuddin Ayubi
19-01-2010, 11:25 PM
Many congratulations on your procurement.

razmataz
19-01-2010, 11:39 PM
lets see if this works.
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/DSC00144.jpg

razmataz
19-01-2010, 11:51 PM
Here are soeme more
Mobile uploads
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/utf-8BSU1HMDA0MDctMjAxMDAxMTQtMjMzN.jpg
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/utf-8BSU1HMDAzODctMjAxMDAxMDgtMjEyM.jpg
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/utf-8BSU1HMDAzNzMtMjAxMDAxMDEtMTgwM.jpg
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/utf-8BSU1HMDAzOTYtMjAxMDAxMTQtMjMyN.jpg

Gilani
19-01-2010, 11:54 PM
Very nice handgun. Happy shooting bro :)

razmataz
20-01-2010, 12:00 AM
17 rnd mag in the pistol.
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/DSC00129.jpg

http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/DSC00140.jpg
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/DSC00142.jpg

wittycranium
20-01-2010, 12:06 AM
thanks for uploading the pics. the finishing looks good in the pics.

I would really like to know how it compares to the stoeger cougar and the taurus.

or if the comparison has already been done on PG before, it'd be best if some one could post a link.

Mitho
20-01-2010, 12:11 AM
good lookin pistol but i think its more of a range pistol rather than a carry pistol.

razmataz
20-01-2010, 12:12 AM
Disassembled
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/DSC00131.jpg
&
Inside th barrel
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/DSC00133.jpg

wittycranium
20-01-2010, 12:21 AM
what purpose do the holes serve? or are they for the look only?

there is a similar zigana T 9mm that doesn't have those holes.

razmataz
20-01-2010, 12:21 AM
Last few tht i have.
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/DSC00130.jpg

15 rnd Mag
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/DSC00137.jpg

17 rnd Mag
http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae55/razarahman/DSC00136.jpg

razmataz
20-01-2010, 12:29 AM
The holes serve the purpose of a compensator. There are two in the barral as well.
All Zigana series i have seen are by Tisas (Turkish)
The zigana T is very similar to this without the copensator. not much of a difference between the 2, might have bought but couldnt find it.
There was also a Zigana K its pretty much like a compact T. and there is also the Zigana F which is full auto.

Enigmatic Desires
20-01-2010, 12:46 AM
thats one huge monster of a gun!! congrats.. Hope the compensators actually dampen recoil.

razmataz
20-01-2010, 12:59 AM
It infact does. The recoil is pertty soft for the monster that it is.

wittycranium
20-01-2010, 01:19 AM
would you like to tell us why you chose it over the Stoeger Cougar and Taurus?

Rameez Saqib
20-01-2010, 02:01 AM
Nice purchase. i already try this weaponn its for H.D n for sporting purpose nt for S.D

razmataz
20-01-2010, 02:04 AM
I actually went to buy PT 809. Stoeger I wasn't interested in. Only one shop had the 809 and he was askin for 63'K. When I spoke to them over the phone he said 55K. Quite frankly I didn't want to pay that much for the 809, its a nice gun but 63 is steep for it.
I would have bought it if it was 55K.
Had used the 24/7. But had heard about its ammo issues, and jams.
I head read about the TISAS Zigana all of em and I had used the zigana F. Found this bought it. It claims to have an effective range of 100 m so kinda stood out.
I don't really carry the gun on me usually have it at home or in the car. So size wasn't an issue. I like big bulky guns.

Denovo87
20-01-2010, 09:35 AM
Congrats razmataz bro, you got a reall scary hathiar :)

razmataz
20-01-2010, 05:28 PM
Well it serves the purpose,

Umar Farooq
20-01-2010, 06:57 PM
@ razmataz
Congrats razmataz, nice purchase man.
Have you got the pouch along with the purchase or bought separately????

razmataz
20-01-2010, 08:32 PM
@ razmataz
Congrats razmataz, nice purchase man.
Have you got the pouch along with the purchase or bought separately????

Thankyou Umer.
The holster was a saperet purchase, not with the gun.

Vik
20-01-2010, 09:58 PM
pictures buhat achee hee. Real professional pics.

razmataz
21-01-2010, 03:42 AM
pictures buhat achee hee. Real professional pics.
The camera was good

Anthrax
21-01-2010, 04:29 AM
Great pictures! The gun looks pretty badass.

Naveed_pk
21-01-2010, 01:06 PM
Congrats razmataz bro.. nice pictures :)

Zubair
21-01-2010, 01:34 PM
RAZMATAZ...got the same thing. Would like to correct you...The bigger magazine is 20 shot, while the other is 17 shot. The 20 shot magazine is by MECGAR ITALY

Khakwani
22-01-2010, 04:44 PM
Please let me know where can i find this gun in lahore ???




Regards,
Khakwani

razmataz
23-01-2010, 11:56 AM
@Khakwani
Mokal arms Nela gumbad. I think Orient has it too.

@Zubair
The manul says 15 and 17 but your rite they take up to 17 and 20 I just didn't put that many thought that the manul says 15 and I put in more might effect the spring.
P.S I got the adjustable sight and the grip from orient will go shooting tomorrow.
Let me know about the mags if its ok put in more that the mentioned capacity.

Zubair
24-01-2010, 01:55 AM
@Khakwani
Mokal arms Nela gumbad. I think Orient has it too.

@Zubair
The manul says 15 and 17 but your rite they take up to 17 and 20 I just didn't put that many thought that the manul says 15 and I put in more might effect the spring.
P.S I got the adjustable sight and the grip from orient will go shooting tomorrow.
Let me know about the mags if its ok put in more that the mentioned capacity.

Tha manual might be old. If the mags are taking upto 20 then they are ment to be. BTW how much for the sights + grips?

razmataz
24-01-2010, 11:21 AM
@Khakwani
Mokal arms Nela gumbad. I think Orient has it too.

@Zubair
The manul says 15 and 17 but your rite they take up to 17 and 20 I just didn't put that many thought that the manul says 15 and I put in more might effect the spring.
P.S I got the adjustable sight and the grip from orient will go shooting tomorrow.
Let me know about the mags if its ok put in more that the mentioned capacity.

Tha manual might be old. If the mags are taking upto 20 then they are ment to be. BTW how much for the sights + grips?

He was asking for 7500. Paid 6000. He haid its a set was asking 4500 just for the grip. Also the sight has to put in by a mistri he takes another 300. The grip is good the pistol fits better in my hand. The sight I will check out today.

Txshooter
24-01-2010, 04:19 PM
very nice..congrats!

Gilani
24-01-2010, 06:27 PM
Looks to be a very impressive gun in the pics. Happy shooting and please do post the range results :)

Zubair
25-01-2010, 02:27 PM
Took my new purchase ZIGANA SPORTS & rigourously enjoyed it. Our HONOURABLE MEMBER MUNIR SB. did the inaugration :cool:
Accuracy was very good & while firing you feel that the gun has some 'shock absorber' as there was no kick.
Only grey area was its factory grips which are pathetic. Posting few pics & forgot the target at LRC so cannot post the result.
http://s2.postimage.org/NkPEr.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsNkPEr)

http://s2.postimage.org/NkS8A.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsNkS8A)

http://s2.postimage.org/NkUDJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsNkUDJ)

Ali Akbar
25-01-2010, 03:18 PM
mashallah beautiful piece u got and happy shooting

razmataz
25-01-2010, 03:25 PM
Congrats. And yes the factory grip isn't half as good as the rubber grip.
I like the compensator really low recoil.

Mohammad
25-01-2010, 03:37 PM
congrats on ur purchase

Bilz111
25-01-2010, 03:43 PM
Congrats br0!!

Gilani
25-01-2010, 03:46 PM
@Zubair
Congrats Sir, a very nice gun indeed. :)

Sensei
25-01-2010, 05:48 PM
@Zubair dear many many congrats for your new Zigana sport it is really a very nice looking stylish gun :cool:

Zhatash
25-01-2010, 06:12 PM
Congratulation Zubair.....

wasifali89
25-01-2010, 10:58 PM
congrats on ur buy

btw
how much did u pay for this beauty

Maximus
25-01-2010, 11:04 PM
congrats razmataz! a bit belated but better now than never :)

btw its still available at mokal sister branch chaudharys arms, gulberg

Monis
26-01-2010, 12:15 AM
Congratulation nice purchase

TAREEN
26-01-2010, 08:29 AM
Very stylish front end. Congratulations Zubair Bhai.

Ka_Khan
27-01-2010, 12:58 AM
Congratulations Zubair.Thats why you missed the Hunt with us :)

AK47
27-01-2010, 01:07 AM
Congrats Zubair sb, enjoy your new toy. Btw, seems like this gun is getting very popular amongst range-shooters!

Zubair
27-01-2010, 02:01 AM
Ka_Khan....hated to miss the hunt so 'GHAM BHULANAY ka BAHANA THAA"
AK47..........You got to try this gun to know

Faheem
27-01-2010, 10:18 AM
Zubair Bro Congratulation for your new purchase.............

Faheem
27-01-2010, 10:37 AM
Razmataz bro congrats on your new purchase...........

Denovo87
27-01-2010, 11:52 AM
Congrats Zubair bro, I am sure THE BOAR hunted by SA was your Shikar if you were in the party with this mean looking gun :)

Naveed_pk
27-01-2010, 12:21 PM
Congrats Zubair sb :) , very nice looking stylish gun ..

wittycranium
27-01-2010, 01:11 PM
Congrats brother. :) I heard the compensators on this one work really well and they improve the stylish look too.

wittycranium
27-01-2010, 01:13 PM
I guess the "sport" in its name suggests that it is more of a range gun. but is it as good a weapon for HD too?

Zubair
27-01-2010, 03:16 PM
I guess the "sport" in its name suggests that it is more of a range gun. but is it as good a weapon for HD too?

All weapons are good for HD/SD provided ALLAH is on your side & you get the chance to use it if the need arises

jawadbinhaq
27-01-2010, 03:29 PM
@zubair brother congrats on your purchase i am interested in zigana sports can you tell me its performance with regards to following

1.Accuracy
2.Range
3.Handling
4. FTE & FTF problems
5. Price
6. Brief comparison with stoeger cougar

I will be grateful i am a new member but not new to firearms as i am an ex military officer awaiting your reply

jawadbinhaq
27-01-2010, 03:32 PM
@razmataz brother congrats on your purchase i am interested in zigana sports can you tell me its performance with regards to following

1.Accuracy
2.Range
3.Handling
4. FTE & FTF problems
5. Price
6. Brief comparison with stoeger cougar

I will be grateful i am a new member but not new to firearms as i am an ex military officer awaiting your reply

razmataz
27-01-2010, 05:15 PM
@razmataz brother congrats on your purchase i am interested in zigana sports can you tell me its performance with regards to following

1.Accuracy
2.Range
3.Handling
4. FTE & FTF problems
5. Price
6. Brief comparison with stoeger cougar

I will be grateful i am a new member but not new to firearms as i am an ex military officer awaiting your reply
Hi jawadbinhaq and welcome to PG
About your question I haven't had the gun for that long but here's what I think
1.Accuracy= Spot on
2.Range=claims 100m
3.Handling=its a big gun so cc is not recommended. The balance is amazing
4.FTF&FTE= I have had 2 FTEs with the russian ammo but non with the chinese. I think its the ammo
5.Price=was asked for 55k paid 53k so that's the range
6.I haven't used a cougar yet so don't know. But its highly spoken of by ppl here. I think Zubair should be able to give a comparison
The best thing about this gun is the recoil, hardly felt. Hope this helps
Zubair bhai plz speak.

NOMI
28-01-2010, 12:35 AM
Congratulations on your purchase bro

NOMI
28-01-2010, 12:44 AM
congrats on your purchase bro

Slayerjatt
28-01-2010, 12:49 AM
MASHAALLAH beautiful gun. congratulations on the new acquisition zubair sb.

Zubair
28-01-2010, 01:46 PM
@zubair brother congrats on your purchase i am interested in zigana sports can you tell me its performance with regards to following

1.Accuracy
2.Range
3.Handling
4. FTE & FTF problems
5. Price
6. Brief comparison with stoeger cougar

I will be grateful i am a new member but not new to firearms as i am an ex military officer awaiting your reply
Sir. The answers to your questions.
1. Very accurate but would like to know the results with adjustable sights INSHALLAH. I took it to 50 rds in this first session.
2. As per manual its effectuve range is 100 m. There is a provision to put on a REDOT scope.
3. Factory grips are not good but hopefully the rubber grips would suffice.
4. No FTE & FTF so far.
5. Rs. 50K+
6. Have not tried STOEGER extensively, so cannot answer this

A.Abbas
28-01-2010, 02:02 PM
MASHAALLAH, Nice gun and have a fun and nice shooting. :)

Muhammad Musharraf
30-01-2010, 01:53 PM
Congratulation razmataz

Abbas
31-01-2010, 01:51 AM
Excellent pistol and fantastically accurate. Very low recoil. I think in terms of accuracy, it should be as good as the CZ75.

Congratulations Zubair, great buy. I think one can't do better than this for range use under 100 K.

p.s After firing your piece today, want one ! ;)

Sami
31-01-2010, 03:11 AM
A.S.A, @ Zubair, Very good choice. Happy Shooting. A.H

fahadkhalid
02-02-2010, 07:51 PM
i have tested the mc21 rameez...and i must say it handles pretty well for gun tht heavy...

wittycranium
03-02-2010, 04:50 PM
i like the compensated version of zigana its too good

should be considered an endorsement of the sorts??

wittycranium
03-02-2010, 04:52 PM
I see a lot of people are buying the zigana sport because of its good 'looks'.

A.Abbas
06-02-2010, 01:00 AM
Ministry of Interior
and
Failure to Feed.

SA bro very quick, answer is given 38sec before being asked (according to the post order).
though seen it late but want the CHILLA, please :P

Taurus
06-02-2010, 01:23 AM
@wittycranium:-Compensated barrels are having low recoil and yes zigana sports is best for this reason

A.Abbas
06-02-2010, 02:10 AM
@wittycranium:-Compensated barrels are having low recoil and yes zigana sports is best for this reason

I have never used Zigana sports, but don't you think ported barrels in short barrel guns, specially in handgun though back the gases at the shooter (due to short distance)??
If any member have the experience with this gun??

AK47
06-02-2010, 02:20 AM
@A.Abbas..........Bro, not quite sure about "back gases"as such, however, yet one thing seems quite certain to me, you gotta clean out the "porting" quite regularly, I'm sure! Unless, you do care for maintenance, I believe there may be some "blackening" around the ported vents. Yet, have never had one, so let's see what an owner has to say on this. :)

A.Abbas
06-02-2010, 02:31 AM
@A.Abbas..........Bro, not quite sure about "back gases"as such, however, yet one thing seems quite certain to me, you gotta clean out the "porting" quite regularly, I'm sure! Unless, you do care for maintenance, I believe there may be some "blackening" around the ported vents. Yet, have never had one, so let's see what an owner has to say on this. :)

:o Never said that, and not sure of your idea of BACK GASES, by the gun or by shooter :lol: and so is the PORTING consequently. ;)

AK47
06-02-2010, 02:59 AM
@A.Abbas..........You got me trapped bro! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Still, let's have some owner opinion on this first, in any case there WILL be gases, be sure! :lol:

XCaliber
12-02-2010, 02:57 PM
Some pics of my Zigana Sport
http://s3.postimage.org/5vn0r.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq5vn0r)



http://s4.postimage.org/Qtmw0.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVQtmw0)


http://s2.postimage.org/pSoRA.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TspSoRA)



http://s1.postimage.org/op4s0.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxop4s0)

uzair859
12-02-2010, 08:36 PM
congratulation x caliber nice purchase zigana has its own class

Taurus
12-02-2010, 09:31 PM
nice purchase X caliber can u kindly tell the price and place of purchase
@Ak 47 :- Its not a must for the cleaning of the weapon reason ,nor u have to take care of that part once u clean them
@A.Abbas:- They dont through gases on the face but doesnt require much cleaning as most of it is thrown out..

9mm Luger
12-02-2010, 09:35 PM
nice gun xcaliber!!

XCaliber
12-02-2010, 11:10 PM
Thank you for the kind remarks gentlemen :)

I bought this gun about 4 months back from Buksh Elahi Lahore. It cost me 48.5K and came with a magazine of 17 and one of 19 rounds (mecgar Italy).

Call it bad luck but I still have not been able to shoot it as yet so can't comment on its performance :(

Syed Rehmat
15-02-2010, 10:00 PM
dear congrates
is it ful auto or sami auto

XCaliber
16-02-2010, 02:43 PM
Sir it is semi-auto.

The full auto is a version of the Zigana F available for around 80K.

Cheers

khurramdool
18-02-2010, 04:58 PM
Tisas are making very nice guns and zigana series is 1 of them.

Aquarius
03-03-2010, 12:47 AM
Beautiful & accurate pistol... many congrats on ur nice purchase bro Zubair..

Aquarius
03-03-2010, 05:10 PM
Bro razmataz: Congratulations on nice purchase..

Ahsan Tauheed
04-03-2010, 04:25 PM
Salam! to all my brothers, my name is ahsan and i had recently joined PG, i also had the Zigana series and the Model is Zigana F - Black color, my experiance with this gun upto now is very good. I had pruchased this gun 5 months back and has fired almost 2300 to 2400 rounds of china, few of them were POF hollow point and not a single mis-fire or eject problem. i got it in 47,500 from decent arms in saddar, Karachi. I seperately bought original rubber grips in 3000 and laser light alongwith torch in 4000. i also pertains P-Beretta, CZ-99 and stougar cougar but believe me guys i saying it after practical that gun is superior in all these other guns as far as its market value, i belive that i will be risen up soon when the people buy these things and used them.

Gilani
04-03-2010, 06:04 PM
I had pruchased this gun 5 months back and has fired almost 2300 to 2400 rounds of china, few of them were POF hollow point and not a single mis-fire or eject problem. i also pertains P-Beretta, CZ-99 and stougar cougar but believe me guys i saying it after practical that gun is superior in all these other guns as far as its market value, i belive that i will be risen up soon when the people buy these things and used them.
Ahsan sahib, you comments are worth a serious consideration as you have fired over 2000 rounds with this gun. Frankly, I never gave a serious thought to Turkish guns earlier but I will have a serious look at Zigana now. Thanks for sharing your experience. :)

ali26300
04-03-2010, 07:02 PM
@razmataz
Congratulation on nice purchase :)

Ahsan Tauheed
05-03-2010, 10:08 AM
I had pruchased this gun 5 months back and has fired almost 2300 to 2400 rounds of china, few of them were POF hollow point and not a single mis-fire or eject problem. i also pertains P-Beretta, CZ-99 and stougar cougar but believe me guys i saying it after practical that gun is superior in all these other guns as far as its market value, i belive that i will be risen up soon when the people buy these things and used them.
Ahsan sahib, you comments are worth a serious consideration as you have fired over 2000 rounds with this gun. Frankly, I never gave a serious thought to Turkish guns earlier but I will have a serious look at Zigana now. Thanks for sharing your experience. :)



Mr. Gilani thanks for your comments i am very much sure that if you will fire about 200 to 300 rounds from the said pistol then u will begining to love firing from it and i think that turkish pistol after production of Zigana series should be paid more attention as well as respect. Additionally if you are in Karachi city please let me know ur Mob Number we'll meet, have a chat and i'll show you the said pistol's performance.

yours truly
Ahsan Tauheed

Aquarius
05-03-2010, 05:32 PM
Bro Ahsan Tauheed: Many congrats on your nice purchase and your firing experience with it.... 2400 rounds....

PsiFactor
12-03-2010, 10:20 PM
@razmataz
Congratulation brother.

KARTOOS
12-03-2010, 10:39 PM
nice gun...congrats bro

Abbas
01-05-2010, 09:58 PM
Salams,

A friend at the range bought the Zigana Sport today and invited me to try it out. It's a decent looking pistol although as soon as you hold it you notice that it weighs quite a bit more than other pistols at around 1000 grams compared to the Glock 17's 625g and the Canik's 850g. The Barrel length is around 5.1 inches compared to the Glock 17's 4.5 inches and the Canik's 4.7 inches. The trigger pull is nice weighing in around 4.5 lb's. In comparison the Canik also has the SA pull at 4.5 and the Glock at 5 lb's. The slide / frame is ported to reduce recoil and make for a more accurate subsequent shot. Here is some eye candy.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/zig2_resize.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Zig1_resize.jpg

So since it looks the part and acts the part, is the Zigana really a competition gun ? Well yes and no, it certainly has all the things required from a range gun but here's something which I often say, no matter how good you are, human error will ensure that there will be the occasional bad shot and to counter this your gun has to be 'forgiving'. By that I mean if you mess up, your shot should still land in black (7) somewhere not go directly to 2 or 3. The Zigana's trigger is very rigid and 'different'. You mean to squeeze it but it ends up getting jerked. In theory it should work better than the Glock and the Canik but it doesn't.

The sights are Novak like and easy to acquire but the shot does not always land up where you expect, infact quite beyond your expectations. In my case I was aiming at dead center and hitting 4's and 5's. For myself and the owner, we had to compensate and aim at 12 o clock 7 to hit close to center. Weird. Below are the two targets I shot with it at 15M.

The Zigana is a good pistol and is capable of really good groups but if I had an option of choosing between it and the Canik Piranha I would pick the Canik without thinking. It is also important to mention that the sport is just a range gun, it's too big and weighty to carry around for self defense, while the Canik also doubles as a very good combat gun.

Thanks to the Owner Mr. Omer Butt for lending me his pistol. Wish you great shooting with it.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Zigt1_resize.jpg

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/AbbasMalik/Zigt2_resize.jpg

Ka_Khan
01-05-2010, 10:25 PM
Any body seen the upcoming Zigana Copy ?

Gilani
02-05-2010, 02:06 AM
Very nice and badly awaited review. Thanks for sharing Abbas sahib :)

As I see it, knowing Abbas sahib's ability as an excellent shooter, a gun hitting 1s and 3s and 4s from 15M is not really worth it. CZ999 & Baikal MP446, having much shorter barrels (108mm/114mm vs 130 mm), fires much better from 15 M and PT99, having almost same size as Zigana Sport, makes a large size hole from 15 M.

Shariq
02-05-2010, 07:34 PM
Zig Sport is supposed to be a range weapon but its performance is disappointing. I have seen Admin shoot well with almost all types of handguns so we can safely draw conclusion.

uzair859
02-05-2010, 08:27 PM
well nice review abbas .............

hardtarget48
04-02-2012, 11:00 PM
i need rubber grip for my zigana sport in lahore tell me where from i get it

Mian Jee
04-02-2012, 11:45 PM
i need rubber grip for my zigana sport in lahore tell me where from i get it

original ones are costly & hard to find,

put a HOGUE grip on it & it will do the job,

ask Naveed_pk bhai for availability & price,

he is your man for (any thing firearm related) in lahore.:spy:

hardtarget48
04-02-2012, 11:57 PM
how i contact naveed_pk plz give me contact number

Mian Jee
05-02-2012, 12:08 AM
how i contact naveed_pk plz give me contact number

Dear, You can ask any thing by using this forum,

e.g.,,,,,@Naveed Bhai, hardtarget48 needs your help,please guide him respectively.

Thanks & Regards.

hardtarget48
05-02-2012, 12:11 AM
naveed bhai plz tell me