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AzamAgha44
21-08-2009, 10:29 PM
I have just seen Taurus PT 809 in Rawalpindi. I am told that it is the latest addition to Taurus family. It was released in USA in October 08. I havent been able to find any reasonable reviews on it on the internet, so would much appreciate if someone has actually fired this pistol. I had gone to buy PT 99, but did not like the finish of it. The trigger too dragged a bit. PT 809 on the other hand had a beautiful finish just like Glock 19 (same size and look), and it had one of the most crisp triggers that I have seen in any pistol. I would like all to share their views on it before I decide to buy it instead of PT 99. Thanks

Abu Al Hawl
21-08-2009, 10:36 PM
i dont think so any of PGms have touched it or tried it as yet so no one will be able to give any comments on it, however seems good weapon!

KageFox
21-08-2009, 10:41 PM
Check out the price and availability of this weapon. As far as magazine reviews go, this and its .45ACP counterpart are simply awesome. And for info, dig up this thread:

http://www.pakguns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1897

Azam Bhai, you brought hope for Taurus 800 series fans :D

Dr Zakir
22-08-2009, 12:06 AM
looks to me just like 24/7 . what is its price sir ?

KageFox
22-08-2009, 12:18 AM
It is, as a matter of fact, based on the 24/7 OSS, but as you can see, it has quite a number of key differences. Hopefully, it will be more of a success than the 24/7 due to its DA/SA hammer-based system.

Enigmatic Desires
22-08-2009, 01:59 AM
Weeeeeeeeeeee... an I really mean weeeeeee...

I am a die hard fan of this weapon. I remember doing hte rounds of hte market askin if it was available or not ..

Finaly its here.. if the reviews are anything to go by..

as I stated in an earlier post

a wonder pistol if ever I saw one..

1. can polish off 10 rounds per sec.

2. has an external sa/da mechanism an can be carried cocked an locked as wel as semi cocked as well as ful DA.

3.has a decocker.

4.memory grooves excellent factory grips

5. adjustable low light 3 dot novak sights (both front an back with back both windage an elevation)

6. Double stricke capability (In case of a dud round no need to rack the slide an manuly insert a fresh round

7. Ergonomically designed hammer

8.3 different grips included to fit all hand sizes

9. recoil reducing front straps

10. Magazine loader included

11. Internal firing pin safety

12. manual key operated security system that locks hte gun

13. Picatinny rail for accessories.

14. hi-cap magazine (17 shot )

15. Minimal field stripping nessessery

16. Fully ambidextrous controls .. what more can a gun lover want ??

AzamAgha44
22-08-2009, 07:59 AM
I am going to buy this today, and would be able to comment on its accuracy after firing it. So wish me luck

KageFox
22-08-2009, 08:09 AM
Good luck, and please post the pics of the gun when you get it :)

ay_be_why
22-08-2009, 08:10 AM
good luck agha sab. just don't forget the pics and a description of your first-impression...

Khalidsh
22-08-2009, 11:04 AM
Seems to be an updated version ... following is the link

http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=602&category=Pistol&toggle=tp&breadcrumbseries=MF1

Adeel Ahmad
22-08-2009, 12:19 PM
Azam Sahab Good Luck with the purchase and i think you have made the right decision by letting PT 99 down for 809.

Adeel Ahmad
22-08-2009, 12:24 PM
Ok guys just talked to Azam Sahab and it turned out that i was the first one to Congratulate him on buying the new Hand Gun. He bought it for 55K and will be testing it in the evening.

Enigmatic Desires
22-08-2009, 12:42 PM
My heartiest Congratulations Agha Sahib. There are absolutely no reviews of this weapon. Not at any gun forums, not in the gun mags. Not even in the review section of the Taurus website itself!!!

U will be one of the very first people (if not the first) to ever review the 809..

We enthusiastically await your response.

55k is a really really good price for the beauty it supposedly is.. when its less illustrious predecessor the 24/7 hit the market. it was retailing as high as 120k

Mitho
22-08-2009, 12:49 PM
does it have a external hamme?r

Enigmatic Desires
22-08-2009, 12:54 PM
Yes. its a full SA/DA weapon

Abu Al Hawl
22-08-2009, 01:42 PM
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5650/40877078.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

KageFox
22-08-2009, 02:16 PM
Mashallah! Agha Sahib, my heartiest congratulations! Hoping to see pics and review. 55K is really sweet deal :D !

ED, we predicted around 120-150K in the Taurus 800 series thread... :)

Enigmatic Desires
22-08-2009, 02:24 PM
Yeah keeping in mind the price range of the 24/7

I think when the euphoria of the 24/7 vanished .. a lot of people realised they really don't like the weapons.. and prices plummeted..
Since it looks like its predecessor..The dealers are afraid of overcharging

Jeez. i never thought i;'d say it but boy am i glad.. the 24 is soo notorious

Dr Zakir
22-08-2009, 03:26 PM
sir which shop did u purchase from ?

Slayerjatt
22-08-2009, 03:56 PM
MASHAALLAH. congratulations sir. i feel lucky that my license was delayed because i used to look at this pistol and think that it won't get here when i will go to buy my gun and now it's here and i can't believe it. just waiting for the range report and if everything goes fine, it will be on my shopping list. and the price tag of 55k makes it more easy to swap it from wish list to shopping list.:)

Ilyas
22-08-2009, 04:02 PM
Congrat Sir... You were quite determined to buy a Taurus since your return from the US and finally you have
got yourself a very nice gun :) Plz post a review when you use it and if convenient, do share a few pics as well.
Regards!

Slayerjatt
22-08-2009, 04:03 PM
can't wait for the pics and the review.

Enigmatic Desires
22-08-2009, 04:11 PM
Same here..

The 809 is probably the most anticipated handgun of all time :D

Adeel Ahmad
22-08-2009, 06:18 PM
Slayer you must rejoice for your License being delayed. All things happen for a reason.

Ka_Khan
22-08-2009, 07:23 PM
Congrats Azam Sahib.It seems a great deal in great price.
You are the first PakGunner with PT 809 ! :)
We will be waiting for complete reviews.

Enigmatic Desires
23-08-2009, 01:23 AM
Congrats Azam Sahib.It seems a great deal in great price.
You are the first PakGunner with PT 809 ! :)
We will be waiting for complete reviews.


Not just here. i am sure your review would be eagerly awaited on virtually all the gun forums around..

AzamAgha44
23-08-2009, 10:09 AM
Well Brothers , here it comes.
I saw the 809 nd straight away fell in love with it. The pistol seemed so much like a Glock 19 and yet it has its distinctive uniqueness. I culdnt resist the temptation and instead of waiting for elaborate arrangements and familiarization with the pistol, I went to my farmhouse at Islamabad, nd banged away 10 shots before the sun went down. A 2 inch, 7 shot group fired with forearm resting at 12 meters is amazing for the first attempt. I hope the pistol does as well on reliability part too.
Pluses

excellent grip, nd with three aditional grip skins provided with the pistol, it would be a perfect fit for any size of hand.

One of the crispest triggers that I ve seen on any pistols, resulting into very tight groups.

accuracy, as can be seen from attached pic of 2 inch group at 12 meters.

very high quality finish, giving it the look of a far expensive product than it actually is.

Accompanying box is actually better than the one supplied with Glock.

Minuses

magazine release catch is not very smooth, nd tends to be hard to operate on occasions.

as is obvious from the target picture the pistol shoots low, and I havent yet figured out the way to raise the rear sight for elevation.

The accompanying booklet is of little value as it does not provide very useful information.

AzamAgha44
23-08-2009, 10:42 AM
Pics

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/4086/16071993.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2774/37722629.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3263/34440225.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4489/83310223.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

Dr Zakir
23-08-2009, 11:08 AM
Now that's shooting . Is the sight fixed or adjustable. Because if the sight is fixed you have to adjust your aim . And sir from which shop did you got it because it is not available in Islamabad

KageFox
23-08-2009, 11:34 AM
The 809 is finally in the hands of a Pakgunner! Agha Sahib, may your pistol have a long life :)

More shooting will tell how much better it is than the 24/7

Taurus
23-08-2009, 11:42 AM
Congrats bro i liked this pistol of taurus very much but without any reviews i didnt touch and thought to buy it until i gey proper reviews but as you have tried it i find it an excellent choice for the shooter ..most shooter are concerned with the grips accuracy and mostly the trigger...well brother congrats again

ARlover
23-08-2009, 11:57 AM
good luck for your new toy agha gee plz some body tell me where can i buy this from lahore & whats to pay

Silent killerr
23-08-2009, 11:59 AM
good pistol

Rizshu
23-08-2009, 12:09 PM
nice pistol. Agha sahab can you tell us that in how much and from which dealer you have bought it.

Denovo87
23-08-2009, 12:19 PM
Congrats Agha bro, take care of it Mashallah it looks something special from Taurus.
Although I sworn that will not buy anything for next 2 years but after seeing your new toy I cannot resist any more. Is something of same quality (from Taurus) available in .45 auto & price range?

KageFox
23-08-2009, 12:25 PM
There's the Taurus 845, the 800s series pistol chambered for .45ACP. If the 809 has turned up, hopefully the .45 caliber version will also surface in the near future.

Irttyza
23-08-2009, 03:10 PM
Nice gun and nice shooting sir.Kudos

AzamAgha44
23-08-2009, 03:21 PM
thanks brothers. I bought this from Shamsuddin & Sons, Adamjee Road Rawalpindi. His number is 051-5564107

Ka_Khan
23-08-2009, 03:22 PM
Very good review and pics Agha Sahib.
I am sure the sale of 809 in Pakistan will be success and its credit will go to You and Taurus should pay you :)
Seems handy gun.

Slayerjatt
23-08-2009, 04:55 PM
congratulations again sir. MASHAALLAH it's an eye candy. the grips look beautiful. i kept checking the thread till late just waiting for the pics and review. did you get that tactical light with it or is the picture off the web? and i hope this gun isn't ammo sensitive because that's one big turn off about taurus guns.happy shooting sir.

Shariq
23-08-2009, 10:32 PM
Congratulations. Great shooting too.

Hamid
23-08-2009, 11:53 PM
Beautiful gun and nice shooting.

Skeeter60
24-08-2009, 12:18 AM
Azam
Nice gun and you shot a good group.

Enigmatic Desires
24-08-2009, 04:27 AM
congratulations again sir. MASHAALLAH it's an eye candy. the grips look beautiful. i kept checking the thread till late just waiting for the pics and review. did you get that tactical light with it or is the picture off the web? and i hope this gun isn't ammo sensitive because that's one big turn off about taurus guns.happy shooting sir.


My question too.. and if its yours.. did the firing session jar the lights any?

P.s a few more pis would be appreciated. spacialy the hammer.. it looks quite tiny

AzamAgha44
24-08-2009, 08:09 AM
Tctical light is seperate, which I brought with my Glock 17 in June last. The laser / white light combo (M6X) is for sale. I'll surely be posting in a few more pics. Thanks for all of your apreciation

Slayerjatt
24-08-2009, 08:09 PM
i am waiting for it's ammunition compatibility report too.

Rizshu
24-08-2009, 08:10 PM
waiting for reviews

Enigmatic Desires
24-08-2009, 10:09 PM
Tctical light is seperate, which I brought with my Glock 17 in June last. The laser / white light combo (M6X) is for sale. I'll surely be posting in a few more pics. Thanks for all of your apreciation


Au contraire SIr,

It is we who appreciate the time U have taken to update us on possibly the most enthusiastically awaited hand gun around!

BaderJanjua
26-08-2009, 01:46 PM
Great to know about your interest in handguns now, i know no one can beat u with shot guns and air rifles.
regards

Naveed_pk
26-08-2009, 02:48 PM
Congrats Sir....In how much u get it...Price Plz....

Rizshu
26-08-2009, 06:31 PM
Congrats Azam Sahib.It seems a great deal in great price.

Nabeel
26-08-2009, 06:41 PM
Congrats Azam Sahib

Welcome back Bader Janjua Sahib

Slayerjatt
26-08-2009, 10:59 PM
@azam sb

sir it would be an honour for us if you join the lahore gtg next weekend i.e. 5th september. hope you can make it.

AK-86
27-08-2009, 07:51 PM
salam Agha Bhai, congrats for ur buy, pray for me that some day i get my license, its stuck at the varifications :( .
Hey i noticed one thing that ur Model is 809E and in the Taurus site the model is simply 809. U can also notice some differences in looks, i think ur gun's model is the newer one.

Here is the Link of Site:
http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=602&category=Pistol&breadcrumbseries=&search=809

Malik1
28-08-2009, 12:20 AM
Congrats sir and a wonderful shooting

Enigmatic Desires
28-08-2009, 02:08 AM
Bad news for Karachi members..

Every shop I went to .. I asked for the 809 ..
Not a single shop owner had so much as heard of the weapon!! Not even Al Harris

:( :(

Taurus
28-08-2009, 05:20 AM
I think it will be probably be available till end of september in karachi

KageFox
28-08-2009, 11:41 AM
Bad news indeed. Well, Karachites will just have to wait a while....

Salahuddin Ayubi
28-08-2009, 12:04 PM
Bad news for Karachi members..

Every shop I went to .. I asked for the 809 ..
Not a single shop owner had so much as heard of the weapon!! Not even Al Harris

:( :(

Welcome to Karachi bro.

I have lived my life in Karachi, but at the same time, have had the chance of being born in Lahore and having relatives there as well.

One thing that I have seen time and again since the last 31 years is that new stuff tends to arrive first in Lahore and then in Karachi.

Whether its ice cream (Walls or Omore) or some new designer brand or Arms............ New stuff generally arrives in Lahore earlier than in Karachi.

My observation.

Abu Al Hawl
28-08-2009, 12:14 PM
its because the main traders importers are in punjab, Karachi ones are sub traders accept The Nationad Defence Group, Clifton.

Enigmatic Desires
31-08-2009, 04:23 AM
ah well.. sabar kaa phal an all that. if its around an i can cough up the dough.. i'l dump my weapon free my lience and get this baby

AzamAgha44
31-08-2009, 07:58 AM
Salam Brothers, An update on PT 809. The pistol is continuing to astound me through its extremely tight groups. It is amazing to see this 9mm spewing out groups rivalling my target .22. There is one problem though, which I,ve noticed, and that is its firing pin makes a very small dent in the cap of bullet. It sometime results into misfire of some of my very old ammo. I'll go see the dealer today to acsertain if other specimens of PT 809 are similar or there is something wrong with my pistol. I think the problem can be easily resolved by getting a slightly longer firing pin made.

PS for Slayerjet: Brother it'll be very difficult for me to join you at the GTG in Lahore. Anyway thanks for the offer. I am looking forward to a similar GTG at Islamabad though.

Mitho
31-08-2009, 08:44 AM
u dont say.
well anyways its a taurus and its bond to do something fishy........

12GAUGE
31-08-2009, 10:56 AM
u dont say.
well anyways its a taurus and its bond to do something fishy........


+1, although i've never used one but the buzz all over internet is that Taurus products do have a reputation of being ammo sensitive.


Regards

Omer571
31-08-2009, 02:26 PM
I nice buy, azamagha. I personally had the hearts for pt 908 and pt909. Unfurtunately they were not available in lahore at that time, so had be content with a cougar.
Plz let us know if it misfires with new ammo
regards

Enigmatic Desires
31-08-2009, 02:52 PM
I would love to know wether its just your pistol Ahga Sahib or 'all' Taurus 809s who have the same problem. Do let us know how your visit to the dealer turns out.

Mitho
31-08-2009, 04:42 PM
@omer 571
trust me it was a blessin in disguise.......

Omer571
31-08-2009, 09:26 PM
@mitho
you think so bro?
must be

Starfish
01-09-2009, 09:48 AM
yay! its finally here. congrats sir, a nice purchase i must say.
any availability news in lhr market?

hasnaincfa
02-09-2009, 05:10 AM
Congrats for a new purchase.

Naveed_pk
02-09-2009, 10:46 AM
Congrats Bro...

Have a Happy Shooting :)

Khalidsh
02-09-2009, 11:42 AM
The Gun looks more like 24/7 pro. Err.... dont like the style!

Enigmatic Desires
02-09-2009, 03:21 PM
The Gun looks more like 24/7 pro. Err.... dont like the style!


actually it is basically the same family. i.e its not the 92 family that has sprawned stuff like 99 an 917C..

But the 24/7 series.

Abbas
02-09-2009, 03:45 PM
Nice pistol, congrats Azam Sahib, I just checked with Para. They say 809's will be in stock before EID.

KageFox
02-09-2009, 03:47 PM
It is basically designed upon the 24/7 OSS, thus the lack of the original Ribber grips (which were eliminated in 24/7s chambered for .45ACP, upon which the OSS was based)

Starfish
14-09-2009, 10:53 PM
here are the specifications of the E model.

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5541/78484854.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqDVb49)

suurce: http://www.ardesa.com/uploaded/pdf/TAURUS/PT%20809%20E.pdf

kash99
18-09-2009, 03:59 PM
Dear Azam shab.

I am intrested to buy 809. Do you mind to tell me what you think should I go for it or do you have any other options under 60k?

Thanks

Malik1
18-09-2009, 05:23 PM
Nice Buy and very good reviews Azam Sahab. Not to miss the accurate firing. Congrats

AK47
19-09-2009, 02:08 AM
If this firing- pin issue could get positively absolved by Azam Sb and a bit more info about his most recent shooting, this gun may soon be included in my wish-list as a new licence is awaited soon. Azam sb, where are you, come forth plz with some genuine facts?

AK47
19-09-2009, 10:39 PM
Azam Sb, where are you? I am equally curious about your MX6 laser combo. Where you got it from and for how much?

Ilyas
19-09-2009, 10:55 PM
Hi AK... Hope your hand is a little better now. Well I think you won't mind if I help you with your question. Actually Azam sb brought it from US few months back and was intending to sell it for 32k. However I don't know if it is still available for sale.

AK47
19-09-2009, 11:09 PM
Hi AK... Hope your hand is a little better now. Well I think you won't mind if I help you with your question. Actually Azam sb brought it from US few months back and was intending to sell it for 32k. However I don't know if it is still available for sale.
Oh yeah... Thanks Ilyas for cooperative intervention! I remember now, Azam Sb had a couple of these, that was before I left for vacations. Prices must not have changed I guess, coz I remember Azam sb quoted in dollars and that thing must have appreciated by now! Anyhow Ilyas, ever came across anything like this over there in Peshawer, let me know.

Ilyas
19-09-2009, 11:36 PM
You are always welcome Bro :) Well I can't say anything about the current price Azam sb would be asking, in case it is still up for sale. I personally haven't seen anything like this over here. The ordinary chinese lasers are however abundantly available. Zakir Bhai n 12gauge got some nice lasers from here, but have not yet received any feedback about the performance, from them.

Adeel Ahmad
20-09-2009, 02:12 PM
Azam Shab still has the M6X with him and his asking price isstill 32K. AK if you are interested in it then let know and i will contact Azam Sahab for you.

AzamAgha44
21-09-2009, 03:16 PM
Salam Bros,and Eid Mubarik to all. I am amazed by the accuracy of this pistol everytime I take it to the range for shooting. The other day I fired off about 50 rounds ex POF stock and 100 % fired without a problem. I guess last time the problem happened due to extremely old ammo which I think was at least 40-50 years old. After getting v good results at 15 and 25 meters, I was emboldened to take on a few stones at 40-50 yards, and started hitting which is almost unbelievable for a 9mm. Mind you I did all my firing with forearm resting and a double handed grip, as the purpose was not to test myself but the gun's ability to shoot accurately.
PS: I have a M6X laser/white light combo sight which I want to sell. I want 32000/- for it as I bought it for 400 dollars from USA in June this year

Dr Zakir
21-09-2009, 03:58 PM
It's the man behind the gun

Agent47
21-09-2009, 04:56 PM
nice pistol,nice looks but this firing pin issue makes my mind wander towards the pt99 again.this gun might need a year or more b4 reviews from all around the world can b viewed.

Starfish
21-09-2009, 06:41 PM
nice pistol,nice looks but this firing pin issue makes my mind wander towards the pt99 again.this gun might need a year or more b4 reviews from all around the world can b viewed.
Well the gun was launched over a year ago in the US so finding reviews won't be a problem.

Agent47
21-09-2009, 07:05 PM
@starfish.still there are no reviews present on the internet. :)

Dr Zakir
22-09-2009, 12:18 AM
azam sahib did u see a compact version of 809 also ?

Waqas
22-09-2009, 01:26 AM
azam sb! plz tell us about the major issue about the small dent on bullet cap, did you check other pt 809 pistols in market ??? are those pistols are same like your or there is some problem in your pistol regarding small firing pin ???

Agent47
22-09-2009, 02:47 AM
i will confirm this but i have heard that the hammer too has some fault and is associated with the cracking of the frame!

AzamAgha44
23-09-2009, 10:25 AM
I am going to the gun club at 1700 today. I ll be testing my 809, as well as my Beretta .22 match pistol. I ll post pics of results. Firing pin issue is resolved and burried as far as I am concerned. The actual problem was with the 50 years old ammo. The pistol is firing superbly with POF issue 9mm ammo. I ll also be testing my Winchester Quail Special over under shotgun on skeet today in the evening.

AK47
23-09-2009, 03:33 PM
Awaiting your genuine opinions from your firing session. And yes, what about the small dent on caps?

Waqas
23-09-2009, 11:22 PM
waiting for yout firing result and also tell wt about small dent ??? is it still small on new ammo ????

Enigmatic Desires
25-09-2009, 05:32 AM
I was under the impresion that it does'nt perform well with POF fodder..
If it does.. then its the ideal weapon to have

Waqas
30-09-2009, 01:14 AM
Agha sb ! we r still waiting for your reply about results and small dent ???

AK47
30-09-2009, 01:50 AM
Brothers, Agha Sb seems too busy to answer us! Perhaps gone hunting tigers in the Margallas with his 809!

Enigmatic Desires
30-09-2009, 05:39 AM
Looking forward to your review Azam sahib :):)

Waqas
30-09-2009, 02:32 PM
ak 47! so funny yaar ... a tiger hunting with taurus pt 809...

AzamAgha44
30-09-2009, 07:05 PM
I am sorry gentlemen for being so late in replying. Actually I remained (and still am) very busy with a delegation for the last three days. New POF ammo performed flawlessly in the pistol. I then deliberately tested some of my old ammo again with the same mixed results. Three rounds out of 12 FTF with minimum impression on the caps. The ones which did fire had normal inundations on the caps. I also fired off about 70 new rounds with no FTF. I was a little put off by accuracy at 25 meters where I could hit three out of five saucer sized steel plates especially when I compared it with performance of a SIG P226 X Zone pistol with a bull barrel (10 plates in 10 rounds). My overall assessment is that Taurau PT 809 is as an excellant weapon for the price, but can not hold its own against real match grade heavy weights in business.

KageFox
30-09-2009, 07:20 PM
Thanks for the precise, concise review, Mr. Azam. I believe that I would be right in saying that the 809 was built, from ground up, to be a combat pistol, not a match target gun. Though a 60% hit ratio at 25m from such an anticipated gun... it could have done better...

Nice to hear that you tested newer ammo with the 809, and found little to no problems as far the reliability of the gun is concerned.

Slayerjatt
30-09-2009, 07:28 PM
ftf. now that's a turn off.:(

AK47
30-09-2009, 11:27 PM
Thanks Azam Sb for a genuine opinion. Few people have the potential of discrediting their own things, yet you point out the reduced accuracy as well as ammo sensitivity, when it comes to older rounds with this gun. I am close to saying, that we are back to square one! Don't go for Taurus innovations, go for their clones, for better reliability! Yet, good luck with your gun and keep the shiniest of bronze rounds with you!

Waqas
01-10-2009, 01:54 AM
wt do mean by "FTF" explain me plz .....

Enigmatic Desires
01-10-2009, 02:14 AM
wt do mean by "FTF" explain me plz .....
Failure to feed....

p.s bout tigers hunting with 809s.. I think its supposed to be the other way around.. :P

Enigmatic Desires
01-10-2009, 02:16 AM
Thanks for the precise, concise review, Mr. Azam. I believe that I would be right in saying that the 809 was built, from ground up, to be a combat pistol, not a match target gun. Though a 60% hit ratio at 25m from such an anticipated gun... it could have done better...

Nice to hear that you tested newer ammo with the 809, and found little to no problems as far the reliability of the gun is concerned.


Dunno bout U Kf.. but I was totaly smitten with this gun.. now alas.. FTF and not that great accuracy.. (sigh) I live in mortal terror of not that accurate hand guns after the 917 episode.. an i had hopes.. high apple in the pie hopes for this weapon :(

KageFox
01-10-2009, 05:43 AM
I agree, I am a bit let down after all the expectations placed on this gun. FTF if due to old ammo is sort of understandable, but the bad accuracy is something to worry about...

Starfish
01-10-2009, 09:09 AM
wt do mean by "FTF" explain me plz .....
Failure to feed....

p.s bout tigers hunting with 809s.. I think its supposed to be the other way around.. :P

Going over Mr. Azam's post, i think he means failure to fire when he says FTF.
I do agree that accuracy is a bit of a disappointment, but you should also consider Mr. Azam's conclusion. I mean its not very realistic to expect this gun to match a match grade pistol is it? Plus Mr. Azam rounded it up very nicely. The gun offers great value for money. I just might buy it.

Sniper
01-10-2009, 02:15 PM
Dear Friends,
i like the gun very much and in order to buy it i checked the price at pioneer arms karachi, he is asinking 56,500/-, kindly share if anyone has encountered a cheaper price with another dealer.

@ azam : please share your experience wit pt 809 while using chinese ammo.

KageFox
01-10-2009, 04:42 PM
I think its a pretty good price for the 809, considering that the 92, 917 and the other Taurus guns are somewhere near the same price range.

Enigmatic Desires
02-10-2009, 05:16 PM
Dear Friends,
i like the gun very much and in order to buy it i checked the price at pioneer arms karachi, he is asinking 56,500/-, kindly share if anyone has encountered a cheaper price with another dealer.

@ azam : please share your experience wit pt 809 while using chinese ammo.


Soo its finally in Karachi.. 55500 Final. hmm as more an more dealers jump on the band wagon.. I think it will come down a few k more .. probably around 52 or so...

KageFox
02-10-2009, 10:55 PM
Prices may drop, but it remains to be seen if this gun is as reliable as the famed 92 series, or has a few of the problems which plagued the polymer, striker-fired guns from Taurus...

Agent47
03-10-2009, 02:58 AM
with all due respect,i wud advise fellow members not to go with this gun as the gun does not promise accuracy and reliability which is a major issue in combat encounters.
A gun should not be bought just because it looks good.
I strongly advise and hope that a gun should not be drawn on anyone unless absolutely required.but if u do draw then one should be 100% sure that it will do its job.
Polymers of taurus often encounter issues but some of them do work fine depending upon ur luck.
We keep guns for SD and protection so one must buy a weapon whom he can trust his life on.good luck and no offense.

AK47
03-10-2009, 08:31 AM
Azam sb put forth a very good review. Yet, I would say though this gun seems all set to inherit market traits from it's cousin, the 24/7, a few more reviews would probably justify it better. Who dares go for it, now?

Starfish
03-11-2009, 12:25 PM
just read the GUNS magazine for December. It has a review of the 845. Apparently those guys like th gun very much. The author even went on to say that this piece achieved perfection on the 4 point agenda.

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Enigmatic Desires
03-11-2009, 01:47 PM
Thanks most awfully! Starfish I wanted to see this review for ages

Usama
03-11-2009, 01:50 PM
Are the cc (compact size) pistols by Taurus available in the khi market.?

Starfish
03-11-2009, 02:36 PM
Thanks most awfully! Starfish I wanted to see this review for ages
not a problem sir. The reason why I am following this one so impatiently is because i want to get this one and i am trying to convince myself that my decision will be an objective one, hence the reviews :)
for a lack of better words, lets just say i got the "hots" for the 809 :P

Victory
03-11-2009, 03:11 PM
Taurus makes the best looking weapons. I hope this one is like Pt92 or close.

Enigmatic Desires
03-11-2009, 07:11 PM
Yeah me an KF were droolin over this peice for ages an ages..

This is goin to be the most awaited handgun around.. But till early sept. The weapon was not available in the Karachi market at all. Dunno bout now though..

KageFox
03-11-2009, 08:27 PM
Early reviews by Mr AzamAgha about the 809 were pretty good, except for the fact that it wasn't delivering upto the mark accuracy and gave problems with older ammo. Other than that it was pretty good. Wonder when they'll come out with a compact version....

For all Taurus and 1911 crazies out there (like yours truly) Taurus website was recently updated with a couple of additions to their 1911 lineup. What interested me was a hi-cap 1911 in .45 (12-rd mag, I think) and best of all, a 9mm! Now we can look forward to a 1911 with relatively cheaper ammo... when this particular item comes here....
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Enigmatic Desires
04-11-2009, 01:10 AM
I am not a gr8 fan of the .45. an even less of the 1911.. cant stand the idea of a grip safety..

But if I were ever to get one. it would be the 845. after readin the review so helpfully shared by Starfish

SevenMagnum
04-11-2009, 09:05 AM
Do not like Taurus at all my choice folks Baikal is far better than Taurus for the same price range. :)

Glockcohlic
04-11-2009, 09:47 AM
.. cant stand the idea of a grip safety..

@ED

The idea behind the grip safety is to have an extra bit of safety to prevent any accidental discharge. Putting grip safety provides a great safety function to make sure that the person holding the gun is intentionally holding the gun, grip is tight and the gun is in a stand by mod & will fire any time the trigger is pulled.

In my point of view it's a great extra safety feature in any handgun to prevent accidental discharge. I wish this feature could be available in all hammer fired handgun (OIMHO).

Shariq
04-11-2009, 01:36 PM
.. cant stand the idea of a grip safety..

@ED

The idea behind the grip safety is to have an extra bit of safety to prevent any accidental discharge. Putting grip safety provides a great safety function to make sure that the person holding the gun is intentionally holding the gun, grip is tight and the gun is in a stand by mod & will fire any time the trigger is pulled.

In my point of view it's a great extra safety feature in any handgun to prevent accidental discharge. I wish this feature could be available in all hammer fired handgun (OIMHO).
Wholeheartedly agree Bro

Enigmatic Desires
04-11-2009, 03:42 PM
.. cant stand the idea of a grip safety..

@ED

The idea behind the grip safety is to have an extra bit of safety to prevent any accidental discharge. Putting grip safety provides a great safety function to make sure that the person holding the gun is intentionally holding the gun, grip is tight and the gun is in a stand by mod & will fire any time the trigger is pulled.

In my point of view it's a great extra safety feature in any handgun to prevent accidental discharge. I wish this feature could be available in all hammer fired handgun (OIMHO).


Last I held a grip safety (read clutch wali gun) it was a spanish .25.. I had to hold the grip safety tightly while racking back the slide.. NOT a good idea. the grip was so tiny and the slide tooo small to hold comfortably. That I tried time an again to pop a round in the chamber.. it took me a good dozen tried an pretty bruised fingers.. an a freind who could'nt stop laughin..

It was by by 'cluth' guns for me..

Give me a standard SA/DA wiht one up the pipe an manual safety.. an i'l die happy

KageFox
04-11-2009, 05:31 PM
Give me a standard SA/DA wiht one up the pipe an manual safety.. an i'l die happy

+1 ED :D

Grip safety can be a hotly debated issue, with proponents saying that you won't even know its there... yet there are some completely opposed to the idea. I just think its a matter of preference and getting used to one kind of gun over the other... for example, the 1911 has been around for almost a century, yet you don't find too many complaining about the grip safety...

As far as tiny guns go, they are pretty awkward.... My father had a Spanish .25 auto which had a tendency of ending up field stripped when racking the slide.... :P :lol:

Glockcohlic
04-11-2009, 07:33 PM
Enigmatic Desires wrote:

Give me a standard SA/DA wiht one up the pipe an manual safety.. an i'l die happy



This gun might suite U. :)

http://www.pakguns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3029

Enigmatic Desires
04-11-2009, 07:58 PM
Enigmatic Desires wrote:

Give me a standard SA/DA wiht one up the pipe an manual safety.. an i'l die happy



This gun might suite U. :)

http://www.pakguns.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=3029


ULP!.. scratch any of the Taurus offerings..

P.s now how did I know this one was comming?

(hence the stress on 'dyin happy" :D

Enigmatic Desires
04-11-2009, 08:00 PM
Give me a standard SA/DA wiht one up the pipe an manual safety.. an i'l die happy

+1 ED :D

Grip safety can be a hotly debated issue, with proponents saying that you won't even know its there... yet there are some completely opposed to the idea. I just think its a matter of preference and getting used to one kind of gun over the other... for example, the 1911 has been around for almost a century, yet you don't find too many complaining about the grip safety...

As far as tiny guns go, they are pretty awkward.... My father had a Spanish .25 auto which had a tendency of ending up field stripped when racking the slide.... :P :lol:

wow.. dont tell me lemme guess.. it was one of those teeny tiny SS LLamas?

The one I was foolin around with actually looked like it will fall apart even if U look at it wrong

KageFox
04-11-2009, 08:44 PM
Don't really remember, it was sold off before I started recognizing pistols at a glance :P

alisyed
18-12-2009, 08:03 PM
Reading through this I am not sure what to think of PT809. Some reviews say its an accurate gun, others say its not only inaccurate but also unreliable. I assume the guns been out for some time now and if someone could comment on their experience after having played with this one for some time.

Coffin Feeder
19-12-2009, 12:06 AM
Yesterday I made a call to my dealer regarding the availablity of Taurus 809. As per his reponse the gun is available and being retailed around 74K. Is it really that expensive? Please update me regarding the price if anyone can? Also share your recomendation for the gun as I am looking forward to get my hands on it as soon I recieve my license.

Enigmatic Desires
19-12-2009, 12:46 AM
waaay too expensive feeder.. BTW which part of the country are u from?

Coffin Feeder
19-12-2009, 12:50 AM
ED I am from Karachi. Thats what I think...The gun is too expensive. @ED Whats your recomendation for the gun?

Manj
19-12-2009, 12:52 AM
Reading through this I am not sure what to think of PT809. Some reviews say its an accurate gun, others say its not only inaccurate but also unreliable.

brother all of us show our experiences and reviews, making an opinion is your job:)

Enigmatic Desires
19-12-2009, 01:01 AM
ED I am from Karachi. Thats what I think...The gun is too expensive. @ED Whats your recomendation for the gun?


I love it. but right now its waay too steep even though its a dream weapon .. absolutely every feature u can thing off in a semi automatic.. it has it..
Double strike feature.. low light adjustable sights.. picatinny rails. ambidextrous decocker.. external safety.. firing pin block safety.. extreme rapid fire.. it is reputed to do 10 shots per second as par taurus marketing..high cap magazine.. i believe even a lock safety.. me an KF hav discussed this gun in detail.. just crol down and c..

Enigmatic Desires
19-12-2009, 01:02 AM
But 74 is like wow! which dealer was it?

alisyed
19-12-2009, 11:53 AM
@manj you're not understanding me. Were discussing guns here not philosophies. A guns accuracy and reliability as judged by experienced gunners or professionals should be close by and not on opposite sides of a spectrum. The two mentioned charecteristics are not subjective, ones that are can be 'handling', 'looks', 'feel'. If experiences are as varied as in this thread it can mean only two things IMO. Inexperienced gunners giving reviews or variance in quality of the gun.

Coffin Feeder
19-12-2009, 01:02 PM
@ED it was DAAD located at Zamzama Street

Enigmatic Desires
20-12-2009, 03:07 AM
@ED it was DAAD located at Zamzama Street


Yes they are expensive..

Coffin Feeder
20-12-2009, 11:35 AM
@ED Even if they are.....what do u think how extra they might be charging 4 to 5K, I guess. I think even 70K is still on higher side. Another thing if Pt 909s are being retailed around 60K then there is no doubt that 809s must be somewhere around 70K+.

Starfish
21-12-2009, 12:15 PM
the price for 809 in lahore is 60k

Enigmatic Desires
22-12-2009, 12:41 AM
the price for 809 in lahore is 60k

Thats why CF I think 74k is a tad over priced..

Coffin Feeder
22-12-2009, 06:00 PM
@ED you are right.....Today I called again to confirm and its 74K. @ED do you think it's worth buying somewhere around 65K ??

aj
24-12-2009, 10:14 AM
Azam sahab,

by now you have really really tested this weapon, what do you think of it now.?

need another review from you on it :)