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TT-33
07-08-2009, 11:19 PM
Following is specification of NP-22

Barrel lenth = 4.4"
Over all Length = 7.7"
Height = 5.51"
Width = 1.45"
Weight = 890.17 g
Muzz Vel = 985-1500ft/sec
Muzz Energy = 450 ft-lb


Is this pistol good, any body who used please tell the experience; any problem encountered while using?

Sultan Khan
07-08-2009, 11:57 PM
@tt 33,
well dear,i have 4,{four} NP22 pistols on my licensess,bought first one 3 years ago,and then the rest 3, fired hundareds of rounds in Lahore Rifle Club and in my villages, i love this gun,it never missed,never jammed,no problems at all.I think it should be enough reason to have 4 pistols of the same make and model.

Rizshu
08-08-2009, 12:23 AM
sultan bahee your point is quite genuine. if a person is having 4 handguns of a same brand there should be some reason for that

Memon
08-08-2009, 12:43 AM
simple reason .............. he is in love with that gun ................. impressive.

Rizshu
08-08-2009, 12:51 AM
@Memon.... i wonder if you fall in love with a beautiful girl then what you will do :P

Rizshu
08-08-2009, 12:53 AM
:D wana have more three like her???????:lol:

Enigmatic Desires
08-08-2009, 03:13 AM
With 4 Nps to share his love. Sultan bahi does'nt need a soutan :D

Memon
08-08-2009, 12:14 PM
@Memon.... i wonder if you fall in love with a beautiful girl then what you will do :P


I am married guy ............ cant say .......................... wesey hi mairi Laptop + Gun ......... dono mil kar mairi bivi ki sotan to ban hi gaye hai ............. But, for some thing (not all things :/) ............ we must say ............ Ye Dil Mange More.

TT-33
08-08-2009, 01:19 PM
So Mr Sultan Khan what is Magzine Capicity of NP-22

Mohammad
08-08-2009, 01:35 PM
np22 is an excellent pistol based on sig sauer design.It is a time tested design with excellent durability and reliability

Dr Zakir
08-08-2009, 01:58 PM
so you have the same problem that i have

Dr Zakir
08-08-2009, 02:01 PM
i think i will buy and try one out am thinking of buying one and try it out ,i was thinking about cf 98 but seeing your liking having second thoughts

TT-33
08-08-2009, 11:48 PM
Can any body teel me What is Mag capicity of NP-22?

Rizshu
08-08-2009, 11:53 PM
@Memon.... i wonder if you fall in love with a beautiful girl then what you will do :P


I am married guy ............ cant say .......................... wesey hi mairi Laptop + Gun ......... dono mil kar mairi bivi ki sotan to ban hi gaye hai ............. But, for some thing (not all things :/) ............ we must say ............ Ye Dil Mange More.


hahaha........ :lol:

Sultan Khan
09-08-2009, 09:39 PM
14+1, is mag capacity,

Slayerjatt
09-08-2009, 09:43 PM
4 np-22s. sir islam mein ijazat bhi 4 kee hee hai.(at a time):p

Sultan Khan
09-08-2009, 09:44 PM
@ Dr Zakir,
Dr sb, if u would like to check NP 22,and may be some test fires before u decide to buy one,u can check mine. i am coming to islam abad in August.it would be my pleasure.

Sultan Khan
09-08-2009, 09:49 PM
@ Slayer jatt, Sir jee, woh 4, jin ki ijazat hai aur hoti hain,in ki koi tadaad muqarar nahin hai, and interesting thing that i have names for all my weapons,Turkish pump action is SUNDARI, Baikal s/s is PARO...... and like that.

KageFox
09-08-2009, 09:54 PM
Any idea if the parts of the NP-22 and NP-34 are interchangeable with those of their original counterparts, P226 and P229?

Dr Zakir
09-08-2009, 11:18 PM
i have read good reviews of np22 . whenever u are in isb contact me on my cell me and some other members from isb can have a lunch or dinner .

Sultan Khan
09-08-2009, 11:32 PM
@Dr Zakir,
Thanx Dr sb, i will be there before Ramzan Inshaallah. Realy anxious to meet u people. I don't know what is the proper way of communication between members,plz guide.

Dr Zakir
10-08-2009, 01:44 PM
you can call or sms at my cell as above if cell is no reply or am not answering just send an sms , thats when i am busy with patient

Sultan Khan
10-08-2009, 02:31 PM
ok,Dr sb, got it.

Topak
10-08-2009, 04:47 PM
@ Slayer jatt, Sir jee, woh 4, jin ki ijazat hai aur hoti hain,in ki koi tadaad muqarar nahin hai, and interesting thing that i have names for all my weapons,Turkish pump action is SUNDARI, Baikal s/s is PARO...... and like that.
and where is CHUNNO ?

Sultan Khan
10-08-2009, 05:06 PM
@Topak,
hahahaha, how would you know bhai jee? i bought one .22 revolver two days ago, a small one, just named it CHUNNU. Pak made.

Topak
10-08-2009, 05:09 PM
its pak guns sultan bhai....
DIL KO DIL SAY RAH HOTI HAI.... ;)

ssrz
10-08-2009, 09:22 PM
N-22 is one of the best pistols available and a clone of SigP-226 with modifications and error rectifiation May Capacity is 14 Usually and u can attact 20 rounds or + Mag as per need

Hamid
11-08-2009, 12:36 AM
@Topak,
hahahaha, how would you know bhai jee? i bought one .22 revolver two days ago, a small one, just named it CHUNNU. Pak made.


Topak is spending a lot of time on the forum. He knows a lot about members' personal likes and dislikes.

schatzen110
03-09-2009, 12:23 PM
Guys how safe it is to carry the np 22 with live chamber (bullet in chamber) and decocked with lever...is there any chance of bullet going off with accidental push on hammer or some similar situation and secondly how does this feature compare to nz 85 (live chamber carry)?

139
07-12-2009, 11:13 PM
and above all whats is going priceof NP 22 nowadays... since Capt Asad's revealation to the forum that our Army is eagerly looking towards this weapon my interest in it has risen considerably..

139
07-12-2009, 11:24 PM
http://s1.postimage.org/gaYAr.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxgaYAr)
Just a simple piece worthy of appreciation......

139

Haider Shah
10-12-2009, 09:54 PM
NP-22 has proved to be the finest pistol of my collection and has not cheated me yet , I am using it since year plus and so far have fired around 500 + rounds only one bullet got misfired which was due to technical fault of the bullet itself. This model is without safety catch however decocking catch is a nice addition to it as of Sig P-226 means ready to take on any time , requires extreme maturity .Regards

arawan
10-10-2010, 07:45 PM
I have a np22 too. Its major quality is reliability. But it has one drawback and that is the large size. but overall its excellent.

Glocker
29-07-2012, 01:37 PM
AOA Guys! Need your professional advices regarding buying a Norinco NP22.... I do own a Sig P226 Tac Ops and totally in love with it... Don't want to carry it because of its bigger size compared to normal Sig P226 and the HIGH PRICE.... :-) For carry, I want to have the same design, reliability and dependability. Want another Sig P226 which I could use roughly and carry everywhere without worrying about it, but on the other hand don't want to spend huge amount..... The answer is NP22, right? Now the advice that I need from you guys is, if I could trust my life with the reliability, dependability and accuracy of Norinco NP22....??? Looking forward to hear from you soon.

sadatpk
29-07-2012, 02:38 PM
AOA Guys! Need your professional advices regarding buying a Norinco NP22.... I do own a Sig P226 Tac Ops and totally in love with it... Don't want to carry it because of its bigger size compared to normal Sig P226 and the HIGH PRICE.... :-) For carry, I want to have the same design, reliability and dependability. Want another Sig P226 which I could use roughly and carry everywhere without worrying about it, but on the other hand don't want to spend huge amount..... The answer is NP22, right? Now the advice that I need from you guys is, if I could trust my life with the reliability, dependability and accuracy of Norinco NP22....??? Looking forward to hear from you soon.
br if u in search of SIG clone over which u can trust,then IMHO ur first option must be Cz999 then Np22 and thirdly Np34,But this is worth mentioning here that in this category Cz999 has no competitor,the best advice about Np22 u can get from Atiq sb as he also owns and fired thusand of rounds in a day,in fact he has done torture test to this gun in Pakistan and has fired more than 7 thousand rounds with his Np22

atiq
29-07-2012, 09:07 PM
I bought NP22 about 5+ years ago and at 27500 and chose NP34 for my younger brother at same price and fell in love with it.
I have done a lot of learning with this gun and a LOT means a LOT. 1200 rounds in a day was the max i went and that was with local cz-75, PG and local chinese red round brands. Today i checked my round log book and It seems I have reached almost 14 thousand rounds plus, this I keep to record the practice sessions and the ammo i purchase.. the budget constraints. Believe me it is a one heck of a gun. It comes with couple of spare parts in the box, such as a locking lug spring.. the first part to break on my gun. It is a huge gun hard to conceal but it works flawlessly on ANY ammo that you feed to it. If you want to learn.. as Sadatpk brother said CZ999 is a better choice but at the rate i got my NP22 i can buy two cz999 now a days. cz999 is roughly 58k and np22 is at 40k.
I carry it on Fobus holster makes it a really awesome pair, easy to draw and held tightly in holster, CZ999 doesn't go into the fobus properly though due to trigger guard being wider on the gun.
In dependability it is at par with any other top end gun and with the firing pin block you can carry it chambered and uncocked condition all the time. It is a really tough gun to beat, however in the accuracy it lacks at longer range when compared to CZ999. Maybe that is because i am pitting a pretty well used Np22 against a almost new CZ999 when comparing in accuracy.
@Glocker If you have the extra 18k go for CZ999 which is almost 50% more than NP22 but if you want to learn and use it a LOT then NP 22 wont disappoint you. both these guns are well above any gun in market in the < 60k range guns.

ACHILLES
29-07-2012, 11:25 PM
np 22 is good pistol. np 34 is better to carry than np 22.

Muhammad m
30-07-2012, 12:14 AM
there is good enough reviews on PG of both np22 and 34. search them up

Muhammad m
30-07-2012, 12:18 AM
I bought NP22 about 5+ years ago and at 27500 and chose NP34 for my younger brother at same price and fell in love with it.
I have done a lot of learning with this gun and a LOT means a LOT. 1200 rounds in a day was the max i went and that was with local cz-75, PG and local chinese red round brands. Today i checked my round log book and It seems I have reached almost 14 thousand rounds plus, this I keep to record the practice sessions and the ammo i purchase.. the budget constraints. Believe me it is a one heck of a gun. It comes with couple of spare parts in the box, such as a locking lug spring.. the first part to break on my gun. It is a huge gun hard to conceal but it works flawlessly on ANY ammo that you feed to it. If you want to learn.. as Sadatpk brother said CZ999 is a better choice but at the rate i got my NP22 i can buy two cz999 now a days. cz999 is roughly 58k and np22 is at 40k.
I carry it on Fobus holster makes it a really awesome pair, easy to draw and held tightly in holster, CZ999 doesn't go into the fobus properly though due to trigger guard being wider on the gun.
In dependability it is at par with any other top end gun and with the firing pin block you can carry it chambered and uncocked condition all the time. It is a really tough gun to beat, however in the accuracy it lacks at longer range when compared to CZ999. Maybe that is because i am pitting a pretty well used Np22 against a almost new CZ999 when comparing in accuracy.
@Glocker If you have the extra 18k go for CZ999 which is almost 50% more than NP22 but if you want to learn and use it a LOT then NP 22 wont disappoint you. both these guns are well above any gun in market in the < 60k range guns.

Agreed with every word. The np22/34 are built like tanks. They are alright with local ammo too.
as for the price, they cost around 44 45k NIB.

i bought 1 last week

Enigmatic Desires
30-07-2012, 05:16 AM
Star armoury was offering one used for 42k last month

Glocker
30-07-2012, 12:58 PM
Thank you very much Brothers, specially Atiq sb....:-) I've gotten the answer to my question in detail and have made up my mind to go for NP22 instead of CZ999... The reason is that I'll be able to find and use lots of Sig P226's accessories like, Hogue FRG grip, holsters, 18 or 20 shot MecGar mags and may be night sights as well on NP22... Although CZ999 might be a better gun but won't be able to find accessories for it like I could do NP22..... Now waiting for this gun to arrive in Lahore as currently dealers are out of stock or will have to go to KHI to get one..... Anyway, THANK YOU very much once again... ALLAH bless all of you.... :-)

mehranbiz
30-07-2012, 10:17 PM
May I know the current and fair price of NP 22

Muhammad m
31-07-2012, 01:45 AM
43K karachi

Muhammad m
31-07-2012, 01:45 AM
Star armoury was offering one used for 42k last month

Well then it must also have a flamethrower attached to it

Enigmatic Desires
31-07-2012, 01:55 AM
He offered an NIB one at 50K. maybe its the way I look.

Muhammad m
31-07-2012, 02:36 AM
He offered an NIB one at 50K. maybe its the way I look.

Well.. 22s have a good reputation. low availability = high prices.
used np's dont come around much

Glocker
31-07-2012, 10:54 AM
AOA Guys! Most of the videos and photos that I've seen of NP22 are the ones with the "Accessory Rail".... NP22 isn't available in LHE, but when I checked in the KHI market, I was told that NP22 with rail hasn't even been imported yet.....!!! Quite surprising..... because if it hasn't been imported yet then how come people are posting photos and videos of NP22 with an accessory rail....??? Any comments guys....???

Enigmatic Desires
31-07-2012, 01:33 PM
Well.. 22s have a good reputation. low availability = high prices.
used np's dont come around much

Even DAAD at Zamzama quoted 35k 90% condition (asking) for it...

Birdshooter007
05-08-2012, 02:22 AM
Available in Pindi/Isb?

faixan
08-08-2013, 01:28 PM
Salams.
I want to know about NP22 barrel, is it chromed barrel ?

pakistanitoup
08-08-2013, 01:38 PM
Salams.
I want to know about NP22 barrel, is it chromed barrel ?

barrel is nicely chromed.
regards

faixan
08-08-2013, 04:03 PM
barrel is nicely chromed.
regards
bro what will be the price nowadays ?
And if you can give some info regarding to its safety ?

Thanks

Muhammad m
08-08-2013, 07:36 PM
It has a v good barrel but it has a black finish
not shiny like other chromed

i think chrome lined but not shiny

faixan
08-08-2013, 07:45 PM
It has a v good barrel but it has a black finish
not shiny like other chromed

i think chrome lined but not shiny

Thanks bro, pls tell me about its cocker deckoker, and is there any safety in pistol, external safety besides.

pakistanitoup
08-08-2013, 08:44 PM
bro what will be the price nowadays ?
And if you can give some info regarding to its safety ?

Thanks

39-45 depending on area and dealer.
safeties are decocker and internal trigger safety. its a time tested military weapon design. it does its job well. i have one for quiet long now.
regards

pakistanitoup
08-08-2013, 08:45 PM
It has a v good barrel but it has a black finish
not shiny like other chromed

i think chrome lined but not shiny

dear its chromed like mirror glass :peace:

faixan
08-08-2013, 08:59 PM
39-45 depending on area and dealer.
safeties are decocker and internal trigger safety. its a time tested military weapon design. it does its job well. i have one for quiet long now.
regards
Thanks bro, pls let me clear on its D/A trigger, means cocked then how it will be safe as D/A trigger ?

Muhammad m
08-08-2013, 09:10 PM
Then maybe the one i have is a fake :)
it is chrome lined just not that shiny

Price will be 42 minimum

Mig
08-08-2013, 09:16 PM
Thanks bro, pls let me clear on its D/A trigger, means cocked then how it will be safe as D/A trigger ?

Brother it has a decocker and not manual safety. Decocker is something like it will increase the force required to pull the trigger only for your first shot if you have decocked. It will still fire if the trigger is pulled but it require more force to pull the trigger. The benefit is that the force required to fire in D/A mode reduces chances for any accidental discharge of weapon, and in a situation of quick use, no manual safety lever comes between you and your trigger.

Mig
08-08-2013, 09:17 PM
Then maybe the one i have is a fake :)
it is chrome lined just not that shiny

Price will be 42 minimum

the dealer put a white paper at one end of the barrel and then asked me to look now. Then it became very shiny :p

pakistanitoup
08-08-2013, 09:52 PM
Then maybe the one i have is a fake :)
it is chrome lined just not that shiny

Price will be 42 minimum

may be the one i have is of better finish :cheer2::cheer2:

pakistanitoup
08-08-2013, 09:53 PM
the dealer put a white paper at one end of the barrel and then asked me to look now. Then it became very shiny :p

or look at a tubelight throuh it :peace:

pakistanitoup
08-08-2013, 09:57 PM
Thanks bro, pls let me clear on its D/A trigger, means cocked then how it will be safe as D/A trigger ?

hammer cocked, push decocker and hammer will come at half cocked position. pull the trigger and thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :smokin:

faixan
08-08-2013, 11:52 PM
Brother it has a decocker and not manual safety. Decocker is something like it will increase the force required to pull the trigger only for your first shot if you have decocked. It will still fire if the trigger is pulled but it require more force to pull the trigger. The benefit is that the force required to fire in D/A mode reduces chances for any accidental discharge of weapon, and in a situation of quick use, no manual safety lever comes between you and your trigger.

Hmm now I understand it easily About the D/A :peace:

Thanks brother.

SEO Gunner
21-09-2013, 01:24 AM
Im late to this show :) .... But I bought oe NP 22 3 days before eid and Im Lovin it..
The grip is amazing and fair recoil

Verve
22-09-2013, 03:59 PM
how does NP22 compare with PT92?

Enigmatic Desires
23-09-2013, 12:22 PM
how does NP22 compare with PT92?

It does'nt. Both totally different platforms.

But for its price range NP 22 is amazing and hte same goes for the PT 92.

Fudgepacker
23-09-2013, 01:03 PM
...This model is without safety catch however decocking catch is a nice addition to it as of Sig P-226 means ready to take on any time , requires extreme maturity .Regards
Very well said. I would go so far as to say that applies to all guns.

ajmal virk
24-09-2013, 09:58 AM
I bought NP 22 three months back and found it excellent gun.

Verve
26-09-2013, 02:11 PM
It does'nt. Both totally different platforms.

But for its price range NP 22 is amazing and hte same goes for the PT 92.

I understand that, the reason I asked is that both are full size frame pistols ... anyways, so let me change the question a bit ... how does it fare against the Cougar? Cougar prices have come down to 58K-62K range lately ... different platform again but range, accuracy etc wise?

Enigmatic Desires
26-09-2013, 03:07 PM
Hmmm.. Both extremely reliable weapons. Both extremely durable weapons. In terms of accuracy The NP 22 should have a slight edge due to the fact that she has a longer barrel. But the rotating mechanism of the SC makes for faster follow up shots due to lower muzzle flip.
In terms of finishing SC wins hands down. In terms of concealability and weight SC again.

In terms of features the SC has a control lever that both decocks and acts as manual safety.

The NP decocks alone.

Ultimately, you have to talk to the hand! Figure out just what your hand likes most.

Verve
26-09-2013, 08:18 PM
Got to fire NP22 to feel the recoil and that personal feel ...

B-King
26-09-2013, 09:14 PM
Guys in ISB or Rawalpindi please recommend any dealer, with whom i can find original Np-22 not a clone and the latest made with the rail.

SEO Gunner
26-09-2013, 11:53 PM
I bought NP 22 three months back and found it excellent gun.
Congrats.. I simply love this gun. although i have owned 3 other guns in past. All diff caliber. .22. 32bore, 30bore and Mackarove 380. But NP 22 feels great :peace:

Mian Jee
27-09-2013, 12:00 AM
Yeah, even the SIG replicates it as their P226.

Enigmatic Desires
27-09-2013, 10:49 AM
Yeah, even the SIG replicates it as their P226.

Yes the Swiss really really know how to do a good copy!

pakistanitoup
27-09-2013, 03:02 PM
Guys in ISB or Rawalpindi please recommend any dealer, with whom i can find original Np-22 not a clone and the latest made with the rail.

Badr Ud Din, hathi chowk saddar.

1stranger
07-11-2013, 10:05 PM
I want to ask expert members here that can you compare NP22 & HP77B with EZ9?? Since all these 3 are SIG clones...!

Lately I am thinking of going for NP22 or HP77b basically for HD and occasional carry...!

As far as budget is concerned, I would love to buy the most economical gun among these 3 without compromising attributes of a good gun..!

However if you people suggest hopefully I will be able to arrange money for EZ9 too.. (though that will be stiff...) However, if EZ 9 K level ke gun low price ma mil jaey to then why go for EZ9...!

So with this in mind I want your expert suggestions. Thanks

P.S. I am not going to use my gun much, it would be primarily for HD...!

Waiting. Thanks

1stranger
08-11-2013, 10:42 AM
Experts.....!!! :director:

Enigmatic Desires
08-11-2013, 10:57 AM
EZ 9 is basicaly a better finished version of the NP 22. If U want something that looks good and is a work horse then EZ 9 is hte gun to go for but if U are concerned only with performance and not looks then the NP 22 it is.

Asif Jhammat
08-11-2013, 11:10 AM
@ 1stranger brother... i would recommend u to go for Np22 than others as u mentioned the purposes of ur purchase. np22 is workhorse. Best of Luck... secondly i would like to invite ur attention towards NP42 G2...if u like that....u may go for that even... i will serve ur purpose of carry and HD as well.

1stranger
08-11-2013, 01:06 PM
EZ 9 is basicaly a better finished version of the NP 22. If U want something that looks good and is a work horse then EZ 9 is hte gun to go for but if U are concerned only with performance and not looks then the NP 22 it is.


Thanks Ed Bro, so in other words NP22 in performance is at par with EZ9 right?


@ 1stranger brother... i would recommend u to go for Np22 than others as u mentioned the purposes of ur purchase. np22 is workhorse. Best of Luck... secondly i would like to invite ur attention towards NP42 G2...if u like that....u may go for that even... i will serve ur purpose of carry and HD as well.

Asif Br Thanks, well I considered NP42 GII .. Infact ED Bro advised that too... I think basically for having safety features... and I almost made up my mind... but then from studying posts here at PG I came to know that it has hard safeties and also touch pad like trigger, also ED bro on other threads mentioned that now new models are not coming with glow in dark sights...

So, if safeties are hard and need break in period, and trigger is like touch pad.. so it mean that if I have to carry it, I will have to carry it safety off... and then come the touch pad trigger.... and then God Forbid,

any thing can happen !!!:noidea:


So that is why, I am now shortlisting among these 3 (EZ9, NP22, or HP77B)...

Also
ED bro (or someone else) once advised that one should not spend all the budget on gun, one should keep some for ammo and holster, cleaning equipment, hogue grips, mags etc etc...

So, if I go for EZ9, then I may not get all in one go... So... in this preview, I am inclined towards NP22 or HP77B...but one thing constantly alarms me and that is famous quote: Mehnga Roey aik baar & sasta roey bar bar :p


P.S. you both suggested NP22, is there any particular reason of omitting HP77B (apart from weight)?

Asif Jhammat
08-11-2013, 02:31 PM
brother for better decision and understanding i would like to suggest u a visit to Market and hold NP42 and check safties and Trigger pull also...i dont think that things are that much Fragile as u got them.
Np22 is also considerable option but Np42 is on Edge for its sleek design and carry-able option

ajmal virk
08-11-2013, 02:43 PM
I am well satisfied owner of a NP22 i like its each and every option if u like shiny things then you can go for other option but i like the finish and perfomance of NP22 btw if you add Houge grips then it will b real mean looking gun.

ballixd
08-11-2013, 03:07 PM
1stranger - i personally own EZ9 not because its expensive then np22 hence better, but because of that smooth trigger, overall better finish , barrel is chromed inside out unlike np22, barrel life test at 80k rounds, better accuracy then np22. EZ9 and Piranaha are a complete package, SD,HD and range weapons and wins hands up in finish sector too.

Coming to NP22, performance wise it is very good and on par with ez9 but that exactly on same level. If you need it for range and HD use then no need to go for EZ9, np22 will just do fine...

Here is a review & comparison b/w Np22 and CZ999 scoprion
http://www.pakguns.com/showthread.php?3001-Range-and-Comparative-Review-NP22

1stranger
08-11-2013, 04:49 PM
ED, Asif Jhammat, Ajmal Virk & Ballixd Bros....

Many thanks for your kind replies...

They are very helpful... Will try not to bother you people again on this issue at least... :)


Asif Bro, I agree about market visit ... lets see when I get a chance to visit... Thanks...

Asif Jhammat
08-11-2013, 05:05 PM
@ 1stranger bro
brother as Bullixd said...i will also recommend Pirhana F...as CZ based clone...if u can manage then go for pirhana...it wil support u in target shooting ...so my personal view is v good about pirhana

1stranger
08-11-2013, 05:32 PM
Asif Jhammat Bro, although I said not to bother you again, but since you have initiated this :) so I take liberty to ask about Piranha's features and performance... I am looking their website after your post, but first hand experience should have more weight...!

Secondly, Asif Bro as I didn't know much about Canik and Piranha... is it a reliable company...? Kahin Caracel Part 2 to nai :)



Also, would like to have its expected price these days.. Thanks

ballixd
08-11-2013, 05:46 PM
Asif Jhammat Bro, although I said not to bother you again, but since you have initiated this :) so I take liberty to ask about Piranha's features and performance... I am looking their website after your post, but first hand experience should have more weight...!

Secondly, Asif Bro as I didn't know much about Canik and Piranha... is it a reliable company...? Kahin Caracel Part 2 to nai :)



Also, would like to have its expected price these days.. Thanks
you will be lucky to find one Piranaha in the market as its kind of short, those who have one piece lying around will be quoting a price out of this world - one guy recently quoted 95k here in Pindi, grab it if you can get it for 60 - 65k, more than that and it loses the charm, you are better off buying NP22,ez9, baikal viking

Enigmatic Desires
08-11-2013, 06:15 PM
Thanks Ed Bro, so in other words NP22 in performance is at par with EZ9 right?



Asif Br Thanks, well I considered NP42 GII .. Infact ED Bro advised that too... I think basically for having safety features... and I almost made up my mind... but then from studying posts here at PG I came to know that it has hard safeties and also touch pad like trigger, also ED bro on other threads mentioned that now new models are not coming with glow in dark sights...

So, if safeties are hard and need break in period, and trigger is like touch pad.. so it mean that if I have to carry it, I will have to carry it safety off... and then come the touch pad trigger.... and then God Forbid,

any thing can happen !!!:noidea:


So that is why, I am now shortlisting among these 3 (EZ9, NP22, or HP77B)...

Also
ED bro (or someone else) once advised that one should not spend all the budget on gun, one should keep some for ammo and holster, cleaning equipment, hogue grips, mags etc etc...

So, if I go for EZ9, then I may not get all in one go... So... in this preview, I am inclined towards NP22 or HP77B...but one thing constantly alarms me and that is famous quote: Mehnga Roey aik baar & sasta roey bar bar :p


P.S. you both suggested NP22, is there any particular reason of omitting HP77B (apart from weight)?



Actually I consider the Caracal's trigger to be a touch pad. I saw a couple of CF 98s in the market today. The old Generation 1s. The oldest one was 38k and the newer one was 35k used. I could flick off the safeties of both the weapons easily with my thumb. They require a breaking in period of a few dozen rounds or so. They both had glow-in-the-dark-sights

As regards glow-in-the-dark-sights. As far as I know the NP 22 or the EZ 9 dont have em either.

Asif Jhammat
08-11-2013, 06:34 PM
@ 1stranger:
brother now ED bro has cleared it , u may further clarify things by holding Np42 in hand, and check trigger and safeties urself...
if u could find piranha in 50 ...then consider Ez9,,, as per my last info, it was available with PARA...and Piranha is Good and even better choice than NPs....
Quality is atleast much better and finish is extra ordinary as comared to chinese...
its not like caracal....very much reliable design of CZ and better finish and quality of turk marksmanship.

Trigger_happy78
08-11-2013, 07:49 PM
Experts.....!!! :director:

Well i'm no expert but the day before yesterday i had a chance to see the NIB NP22, And i loved how it felt in my hand. I also tried NP42 Gen 2, But i like the feel of NP22 so much that i almost bought it. The thing that put me off was its hard SA trigger pull and it impossible DA pull ;). Plus the friend that accompanied me, said if you do want a Norinco go for NP42. The only thing i liked in NP42 was the better trigger then Np22. They really improved on the trigger on the NP42. After a while i was so confused that i left both ;). 1Stranger bro. I don't think EZ9 or Cz999 are the exact clones of SiG. But they are definitely better guns then NP's.

Trigger_happy78
08-11-2013, 07:50 PM
EZ 9 is basicaly a better finished version of the NP 22. If U want something that looks good and is a work horse then EZ 9 is hte gun to go for but if U are concerned only with performance and not looks then the NP 22 it is.

Plus EZ9/Cz999 are much more thicker guns in width then NP22.....

Asif Jhammat
08-11-2013, 07:58 PM
@ TH
u r absoultly right in the regard that serbians are not exact clone...they are made on the base of Sig Design, but with the modification of Zastava company... hence are not called exact clones...as for as NP42 is concerned...it proved itself...a good reliable gun... definately passed all military tests...

Trigger_happy78
08-11-2013, 10:25 PM
@ TH
u r absoultly right in the regard that serbians are not exact clone...they are made on the base of Sig Design, but with the modification of Zastava company... hence are not called exact clones...as for as NP42 is concerned...it proved itself...a good reliable gun... definately passed all military tests...

+1........

rmishaq
11-11-2013, 10:52 AM
NP22. I've put close to 1000 rounds through it without issues. It also has one of tue best triggers out of the box in this budget and for me, sigs or any nice clone is quite accurate.
Extremely satisfied owner :)

1stranger
11-11-2013, 12:44 PM
:doh::doh::shocked::noidea::noidea:


Is it always so hard to decide a hand gun for your self or NP22 is so good and hard choice to beat :noidea: :shocked: :) :)

Thanks all for your valuable inputs
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P.S. Trigger Happy, you are a expert bro...! Specially after that vinegar experiment :p :)