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usmanajaz82
22-07-2013, 08:47 PM
Dear Memebers,

This is my first thread. I have been arround as silent member reading posts and threads and trying to educate myself. I have Caracal F which i bought few months back. Now i am considering buying back up pistol which can be used my better half as well. In this process i started searching for suitable pistol .22/.25. While searching on the internet, I came across Taurus PT.22LR/.25ACP and at once fell in love with it. I started searching dealer in Islamabad and rawalpindi but couldn't find one. Then today i called Orient, and P.A.R.A both of them told me that they don't have any pistol of .22lr/.25acp. Then I called Hira Arms they said that they have the guns of this calibre but refused to give further detsails. So I request please can you tell me how much does this pistol cost and reviews of senior members regarding this gun. My Budget is arround 80k.

s.jawad
22-07-2013, 08:59 PM
Brother don't say about TAURIUS pt.22 are .25 but in back days i brought WALTHER P22 new model for myself to 60k this is what its look like.
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usmanajaz82
22-07-2013, 09:22 PM
Brother Jawad, it's beautiful gun however, i am looking for pocket pistol andWALTHER P22 is too big for a pocket pistol. Please tell me if you know if any good pocket pistol.

s.jawad
22-07-2013, 09:37 PM
Brother Jawad, it's beautiful gun however, i am looking for pocket pistol andWALTHER P22 is too big for a pocket pistol. Please tell me if you know if any good pocket pistol.

Brother this is also a pocket pistol looking big in size in pictures you will find more little then this but don't say about its reliabilty as per my knowledge in this buddget walther is best and brother when ever you go for any one also keep a look on this as i say this is a pocket size pistol only looking big in pictures.
REGARDS

s.jawad
22-07-2013, 09:43 PM
Also brother wait for more senior members as what they will suggest for you in this buddget.
REGARDS

usmanajaz82
22-07-2013, 09:53 PM
ok brother, you are rite in pics it appears to be a big gun. where did u get it from?

Dr Zakir
22-07-2013, 09:57 PM
Also look for a beretta or walther ppk in .22 they are small easily carried in pocket but trouble would be finding them. Havent seen a taurus pistol in 22. Although revolvers are available.walther p22 is also a very good choice

usmanajaz82
22-07-2013, 10:10 PM
Zakir bhai, thanks alot. Actually i like Beretta Tomcat as well, but i think it is arround 150k, out of my budget. Please can u share the price of Taurus pistol .22lr and at which dealer?

s.jawad
22-07-2013, 10:10 PM
ok brother, you are rite in pics it appears to be a big gun. where did u get it from?

Brother as you can see my location i am from peshawar and i brought this also from peshawar.
REGARDS

s.jawad
22-07-2013, 10:16 PM
Also look for a beretta or walther ppk in .22 they are small easily carried in pocket but trouble would be finding them. Havent seen a taurus pistol in 22. Although revolvers are available.walther p22 is also a very good choice

Sir are walther PPK in .22lr is available in NIB and what will be the price of this.
Thanks in advance
REGARDS

Dr Zakir
22-07-2013, 10:19 PM
No nib . Have to look for a used one . It is a beauty our fellow member moeen has one .

s.jawad
22-07-2013, 10:27 PM
No nib . Have to look for a used one . It is a beauty our fellow member moeen has one .

OH Moen sir i wonder if he don't have any gun in his collection.
Thanks for replay sir i see a few used pieces but i am in search of the one in good condetion leets hope for good again thanks sir.
BEST REGARDS

usmanajaz82
22-07-2013, 11:37 PM
Pakguns members please help me.((((((((((((((

arawan
23-07-2013, 01:01 AM
I think, Orient Traders, Lahore, should have Taurus .22lr revolvers. You can ask them about revolvers. Small Revolver can be a good option as a back-up SD handgun

Dr Zakir
23-07-2013, 04:00 AM
Haven't seen taurus pistols only revolvers

ajmal virk
23-07-2013, 09:59 AM
Please go for WALTHER P22 many people on the foroum have this and they are satisfied too.

Ameer
23-07-2013, 12:37 PM
Brother don't say about TAURIUS pt.22 are .25 but in back days i brought WALTHER P22 new model for myself to 60k this is what its look like.
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What are these screw-drivers for?

Ameer
23-07-2013, 02:19 PM
@S.Jawad, if it is what i am thinking of, then i need the dealer's name. 60K is amazing price.

s.jawad
23-07-2013, 09:24 PM
@S.Jawad, if it is what i am thinking of, then i need the dealer's name. 60K is amazing price.

Ameer brother you have realy eagle eyes yes this screw driver is for silencer but silencer is not available with pistol but i see this in few shops as this pistol orignal walther silencer is available in market
REGARDS

GUNFREAK
23-07-2013, 09:28 PM
Pakguns members please help me.((((((((((((((

CZ 92 is an option. Price around 50ish.

Regards

Ameer
23-07-2013, 09:58 PM
Ameer brother you have realy eagle eyes yes this screw driver is for silencer but silencer is not available with pistol but i see this in few shops as this pistol orignal walther silencer is available in market
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so it does have a hidden threaded barrel but the other option isn't there. I got it, thankyou brother. I appreciate it.

usmanajaz82
23-07-2013, 11:56 PM
@ s.jawad brother, if you don't mind can u tell me your email. usman

s.jawad
24-07-2013, 12:24 AM
@ s.jawad brother, if you don't mind can u tell me your email. usman

Brother my email id is [jawadalishah77@gmail.com].
REGARDS

usmanajaz82
24-07-2013, 12:53 AM
@gunfreak i like CZ 92, however heard alot of bad reviews about it that it has many issues like ftf and fte. please tell how was your experience with it. thanks. usman

Verve
24-07-2013, 12:59 PM
P22Q is the latest model - thread picture is older model. 65k+ appx NIB. Taurus .22 is non existent in the market as dealers don't import them due to very low .22lr pistols sales anyways - that's what I wanted too initially.

Almost all .22lr pistols are ammo sensitive and CCI MINI-MAG 40grains bullets are best for Walther P22Q without some mods to feed ramp and some other areas.

I've modified mine after fte/ftf issues on the American Eagle ammo and these mods have stopped the fte/ftf issues now even on this awful 40gr ammo. Waiting for 400 mini-mags to arrive from LHE, as they are not in available in any ISB/RWP dealers.

Your other option is Taurus PT709 Slim (9mm) - short in market as its an in-demand pistol ... 70k-75k NIB. Very CC pistol with no hiccups or mods to do. Use hollow points and good to go. If you are looking for a second hand one (exchanged mine recently), I can check with dealer (based in Punjab) if its still with him. 2 bullets fired only and not a mark on it. I exchanged it for Zastava M57 and Mrs carries P22Q.

P22Q is lighter fully loaded (lighter ammo) and slightly shorter than PT709. Both are equally CC, 19/20 ka faraq from CC perspective.

s.jawad
24-07-2013, 03:49 PM
P22Q is the latest model - thread picture is older model. 65k+ appx NIB. Taurus .22 is non existent in the market as dealers don't import them due to very low .22lr pistols sales anyways - that's what I wanted too initially.

Almost all .22lr pistols are ammo sensitive and CCI MINI-MAG 40grains bullets are best for Walther P22Q without some mods to feed ramp and some other areas.

I've modified mine after fte/ftf issues on the American Eagle ammo and these mods have stopped the fte/ftf issues now even on this awful 40gr ammo. Waiting for 400 mini-mags to arrive from LHE, as they are not in available in any ISB/RWP dealers.

Your other option is Taurus PT709 Slim (9mm) - short in market as its an in-demand pistol ... 70k-75k NIB. Very CC pistol with no hiccups or mods to do. Use hollow points and good to go. If you are looking for a second hand one (exchanged mine recently), I can check with dealer (based in Punjab) if its still with him. 2 bullets fired only and not a mark on it. I exchanged it for Zastava M57 and Mrs carries P22Q.

P22Q is lighter fully loaded (lighter ammo) and slightly shorter than PT709. Both are equally CC, 19/20 ka faraq from CC perspective.

Brother as you say this is the WALTHER old model can you upload some pictures of new model????????????????????????????????

s.jawad
24-07-2013, 09:31 PM
Brother as you say this is the WALTHER old model can you upload some pictures of new model????????????????????????????????

Waiting ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????

Verve
25-07-2013, 12:43 AM
Waiting ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????

my bad bro, i thought the grips were different on yours due to picture resolution or my eyes but upon closer inspection (i.e. full screen brightness), you and I have the same model.

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eminentpk
25-07-2013, 03:57 PM
Looks smart and nice CCW

s.jawad
25-07-2013, 05:05 PM
[QUOTE=Verve;378662]my bad bro, i thought the grips were different on yours due to picture resolution or my eyes but upon closer inspection (i.e. full screen brightness), you and I have the same model.


Brother as your and mine is same and this is latest production i think out side the box lable of your pistol written by p22q and also which booklet you have with him also written him p22q but brother don't worry these are the newer ones i used this and alhumdulillah never face any problem.
there for i say you for pictures tyhanks for sharing the pictures.
REGARDS

Safdar Mahmood Khan
01-08-2013, 08:43 PM
The beretta tomcat is a great gun,especially if you want to use it for extra conceal carry.

s.jawad
02-08-2013, 12:00 AM
The beretta tomcat is a great gun,especially if you want to use it for extra conceal carry.

Brother can you also please tell us the price of baretta tomcat pistol price [NIB].
REGARDS

Verve
02-08-2013, 05:00 AM
Brother as your and mine is same and this is latest production i think out side the box lable of your pistol written by p22q and also which booklet you have with him also written him p22q but brother don't worry these are the newer ones i used this and alhumdulillah never face any problem.
there for i say you for pictures tyhanks for sharing the pictures.
REGARDS

Jawad bro, I had FTF (within first 8 rounds fired - was expecting it after all the reviews) due to the sharp barrel edge and larger than usual gap between slider and barrel so out came the 200, 320, 400 grit papers and a polisher. Took a while so went and bought a dremmel with polishers etc. Now the bullet moves very smooth into the barrel, even the HPs. And it fires the federal & American Eagle HP crap ammo too without any FTF & FTE. Will strip it again and completely remove the gap between slider and barrel (all with dremmel this time for precise and balanced finish) so it will be polished all the way as most barrels are. That should completely eliminate any future FTF(feed) due to this shortcoming on feed and barrel mouth design by German engineering. I am very surprised that they released a product with such issues - Germans, along with Japanese are best in engineering top quality products. They did, however, fix many things the older model required fixing (from P22 bible) though so left them as is.

Made some other modifications too, specific ones being the trigger slider mechanism's rectangular frame that has sharp edges and scratches the polymer (as it did within first 7 rounds), and rounding the hammer edges. One left to do is polishing the striker pin as .22lr is mostly black powder and a filthy round that clogs the striker pin slider over time, causing FT fire. Will do the pin polishing later to take very very fine layer off both flat sides.

I'm assuming you've not done any internal mods?

And why not a SS or hard chromed nut for the barrel as more and more bluing is coming off when removing it :tsk:

Original laser to purchase now. Lahore buksh elahi have them but they are asking 4k than my local dealer can source - original is made in China. Peshawar dealers, I wonder, if any stock them. Also need barrel inserted laser 'bullet' to align the rail laser, both for .22lr and 9mm sizes.

s.jawad
02-08-2013, 03:09 PM
Jawad bro, I had FTF (within first 8 rounds fired - was expecting it after all the reviews) due to the sharp barrel edge and larger than usual gap between slider and barrel so out came the 200, 320, 400 grit papers and a polisher. Took a while so went and bought a dremmel with polishers etc. Now the bullet moves very smooth into the barrel, even the HPs. And it fires the federal & American Eagle HP crap ammo too without any FTF & FTE. Will strip it again and completely remove the gap between slider and barrel (all with dremmel this time for precise and balanced finish) so it will be polished all the way as most barrels are. That should completely eliminate any future FTF(feed) due to this shortcoming on feed and barrel mouth design by German engineering. I am very surprised that they released a product with such issues - Germans, along with Japanese are best in engineering top quality products. They did, however, fix many things the older model required fixing (from P22 bible) though so left them as is.

Made some other modifications too, specific ones being the trigger slider mechanism's rectangular frame that has sharp edges and scratches the polymer (as it did within first 7 rounds), and rounding the hammer edges. One left to do is polishing the striker pin as .22lr is mostly black powder and a filthy round that clogs the striker pin slider over time, causing FT fire. Will do the pin polishing later to take very very fine layer off both flat sides.

I'm assuming you've not done any internal mods?

And why not a SS or hard chromed nut for the barrel as more and more bluing is coming off when removing it :tsk:

Original laser to purchase now. Lahore buksh elahi have them but they are asking 4k than my local dealer can source - original is made in China. Peshawar dealers, I wonder, if any stock them. Also need barrel inserted laser 'bullet' to align the rail laser, both for .22lr and 9mm sizes.

Brother you have done a great job but me brother i am realy a leazy person and also mine was working fine and in my openion if one thing is working fine then no need to work on it and if its give trubble then change this i think this is the best option and as per pistol lasers brother the orignal lasers are above 30k these 1k are 2k to 10k these all are chinese and in peshawar these are available 1500/-rs to 2500/-rs the rail ones and brother i never see the barrel inserted laser bullet till now in peshawar when ever you come to peshawar then inform me i will go with you to karkhano market and then we will check all these and also brother in .22lr pistol only used high vallecity and hyper vallecity bullets i only used winchester super x h v and cci hv bullets and these workes fine.
REGARDS

Verve
07-08-2013, 02:19 AM
Jawad bro, I agree that if something is working fine then there is no need to tweak it in anyway but i had fail to feed issue so had to work on this work on the feed ramp.

Also bro, what is your preferred method of contact outside the forum? I have emailed you but not had a response yet, from 3verve at gmail dot com. I will be visiting Peshawar after Eid and wanted to know your availability. Picking something up and visiting Gul Arms to see the factory and then perhaps place a custom 92FS order. Would love to scout the Peshawar arms shops for anything exotic. Looking for the small survival knife, the type British SAS use or button press out, and button press in knife) and .22LR CCI rounds, if they are around 25rs each otherwise Lahore CCI order would do.

As for the P22Q original laser, Buksh Elahi in Lahore are selling genuine for 18K so 30K seems a very high price in Peshawar. and yes, the 1.5k to 2.5k chinese rail fitment ones are not worth. In USA, the delivered price of a genuine P22Q laser is $120 (with Walther logo on it etc), but it looks like a chinese packaged laser, as Walther has outsourced the genuine laser manufacturing to China.

Any idea when the arms shop in Peshawar will re-open? Gul Arms units open on Tuesday/Wednesday, I am not sure how many days the dealers there are closing for.

Thanks brother.

s.jawad
07-08-2013, 07:10 PM
Jawad bro, I agree that if something is working fine then there is no need to tweak it in anyway but i had fail to feed issue so had to work on this work on the feed ramp.

Also bro, what is your preferred method of contact outside the forum? I have emailed you but not had a response yet, from 3verve at gmail dot com. I will be visiting Peshawar after Eid and wanted to know your availability. Picking something up and visiting Gul Arms to see the factory and then perhaps place a custom 92FS order. Would love to scout the Peshawar arms shops for anything exotic. Looking for the small survival knife, the type British SAS use or button press out, and button press in knife) and .22LR CCI rounds, if they are around 25rs each otherwise Lahore CCI order would do.

As for the P22Q original laser, Buksh Elahi in Lahore are selling genuine for 18K so 30K seems a very high price in Peshawar. and yes, the 1.5k to 2.5k chinese rail fitment ones are not worth. In USA, the delivered price of a genuine P22Q laser is $120 (with Walther logo on it etc), but it looks like a chinese packaged laser, as Walther has outsourced the genuine laser manufacturing to China.

Any idea when the arms shop in Peshawar will re-open? Gul Arms units open on Tuesday/Wednesday, I am not sure how many days the dealers there are closing for.

Thanks brother.

Brother you're always welcome i think the shops will be open till now.
REGARDS

Verve
14-08-2013, 04:12 AM
Jawad bhai, what's your availability schedule on Sunday, Monday & Tuesday? I'm planning a trip to Peshawar on one of those days next week. Can we exchange phone numbers? Email is 3verve at gmail dot com.

Dr Zakir
14-08-2013, 04:26 AM
Saw a p22q with a laser attached to trigger guard was quite sleek .

s.jawad
14-08-2013, 06:27 PM
Jawad bhai, what's your availability schedule on Sunday, Monday & Tuesday? I'm planning a trip to Peshawar on one of those days next week. Can we exchange phone numbers? Email is 3verve at gmail dot com.

Brother as i say you're always Welcome but brother i told you if you want to buy some thing then on sunday the arms shops are closed and brother you can mail me on [jawadalishah77@gmail.com]
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