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DaGGerS
13-06-2013, 02:54 PM
today i got my Gamo Whispere X.
soon i will post the review of my new gun.
bought some other things as well and the prices are:

Gamo Whispere X-----------------------------------24K
Bushnil 6-24x50 AOE------------------------------6.5K
Pro Magnum Pellets--5 Tins----------------------1.7K
H&N Match-----------5 Tins-----------------------1.7K
Camo Accessory Back Pack Bag -----1----------1K
Gun Cover ----------------------------2------------2K

GunFun
13-06-2013, 02:58 PM
congrats bro...waiting for the review

Ashes
13-06-2013, 03:06 PM
congrats bro...waiting for the review

... and the pix :)

mujtabakhan
13-06-2013, 03:16 PM
Picssssssssss ?????????

DaGGerS
13-06-2013, 03:57 PM
currently i am sitting in my office and a courier guy delivered the products. as soon as i will go home sure i will post the pics of every thing i got today.

Aquarius
13-06-2013, 04:02 PM
Whaere are the pics & range report ??

Naweed
13-06-2013, 04:10 PM
currently i am sitting in my office and a courier guy delivered the products. as soon as i will go home sure i will post the pics of every thing i got today.

Congratulations

Wish you all the best ... anxiously waiting for your performance review ... plus the pics of all item

skhan1231
13-06-2013, 05:11 PM
Waiting for the pics. :D

DaGGerS
13-06-2013, 06:00 PM
here are some pictures.

got 1 piece scope mount for free

saqlainr12
13-06-2013, 06:00 PM
congrats for ur purchases bro

DaGGerS
13-06-2013, 06:01 PM
range report is pending for now. will try to post tomorrow

Laino
13-06-2013, 07:44 PM
Congrats for the purchase bro

mythical
13-06-2013, 08:16 PM
congrats.

from where did you bought it ?

did you try diana 31?

Khilji
13-06-2013, 10:22 PM
Congrats for the purchase bro . Wish you happy shooting

adam
13-06-2013, 10:45 PM
congratulations on this great gun and scope purchase, eagerly waiting for range report and review. wish you to enjoy shooting it to the fullest.

Dr Zakir
13-06-2013, 10:47 PM
Congratulations

joney
13-06-2013, 11:02 PM
Dagger bro,
Many congrats on your purchase.

Prices you've paid for all stuff are much reasonable.. would you mind sharing the shop???

DaGGerS
14-06-2013, 09:02 AM
yesterday evening i tested the gun and following is the result at 55 foot with fiber sight. the slugs are pro mag. the fiber sight need adjustment for accuracy. and amazingly this gun is power full.

Ameer
14-06-2013, 09:53 AM
@DaGGerS,

i dont like this shadow trigger, only thing i didn't like in it.

DaGGerS
14-06-2013, 10:31 AM
so far it is better than my first gun B11 china made. another thing i love about this gun is its weight which is very very lesser then my first gun.

without scope weight 2.450 KG
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with scope mounted weight 2.846 KG
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DaGGerS
14-06-2013, 03:47 PM
today i tried to fit scope on the gun but amazingly i couldn’t do so as the scope is too large to fit on the gun.
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so i removed tasco scope fitted on my previous gun and fitted on Whisperer X

adam
14-06-2013, 09:09 PM
I may be wrong,,, but perhaps you can remove sun shade from scope and scope stop from rifle and try again to mount the scope.
This one piece scope mount does (usually) have a built in scope stop, that can be used if needed.
Must enjoy the rifle with this high power scope...

Naweed
14-06-2013, 11:23 PM
I may be wrong,,, but perhaps you can remove sun shade from scope and scope stop from rifle and try again to mount the scope.
This one piece scope mount does (usually) have a built in scope stop, that can be used if needed.
Must enjoy the rifle with this high power scope...


this scope stop is supposed to be removed for one piece mount as the mount has a locking pin which settles in the hole which is inside this stop .... your other suggestion also seems valid and i also think that this scope will fit

DaGGerS
15-06-2013, 10:30 AM
@adam
@Naweed

thanks for kind help. yes i thought that too. and really i was not sure about the function of the pin under one mount. now i understand. i will do like advised and will show you the results.

DaGGerS
15-06-2013, 10:33 AM
so yesterday i mounted my old scope on the gun and following is the result. i couldn’t go for 60, 80 and 100 feet due to high wind and clouds.

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jog3ee
15-06-2013, 11:37 AM
Kindly put a 5 Rs coin next to the the groups so as to give a reference to their size. They look quite opened up at the mentioned relatively short distances.

DaGGerS
15-06-2013, 12:13 PM
this is my own made a4 size bulls eye. the black dot is 1 inch and circle to circle distance is 1 inch. the large black circle is between 9 and 10 inch

DaGGerS
15-06-2013, 12:18 PM
i am still practicing shooting and i also have some issues concerning to stabilizing the gun in hands. on the rest i am sure that i will manage to make more tighter groups

jog3ee
15-06-2013, 12:48 PM
Yeah try testing it from a rest of some sort. That'll give better picture as to how accurate this gun is.

qmkamboh
15-06-2013, 12:51 PM
Congrats on purchase...

DaGGerS
15-06-2013, 01:24 PM
need advice how to stabilize the gun in hands!

jog3ee
15-06-2013, 02:45 PM
shoot in prone position. If you're right handed, bend your right leg, raise the left leg and rest your left elbow on your left thigh or knee, while lightly pressing the rifle butt in your shoulders.

To add more stability you can slightly raise your right leg so as to rest your right elbow on that thigh.

Breath deep and slow and hold your breath before taking a shot.

mythical
15-06-2013, 09:43 PM
where to find gamo or diana items in islamabad / pindi

jog3ee
15-06-2013, 10:07 PM
Dear Daggers, there is a Facebook page "Airgun Club of Pakistan". A guy has posted 45 feet (15yards) shooting results with Hatsan 125TH using "Daystate Rangemaster Li" pellets. You should check that group. Im referring cuz it is done at similar distances as your available range i.e. 40-45 feet.

DaGGerS
15-06-2013, 10:52 PM
brother jog3ee, i have check the page and yes it is indeed very very tight group and he must be "paapi" expert in shooting :becky:. sure i have to make proper arrangements to be an paapi experts like pros on the forum

DaGGerS
15-06-2013, 11:14 PM
dame my slow internet connection..............

Naweed
15-06-2013, 11:38 PM
need advice how to stabilize the gun in hands!

Please read this article and you'll get the idea
http://www.airgundepot.com/how-to-get-a-springer-to-shoot-straight.html

DaGGerS
16-06-2013, 12:09 AM
Dear Naweed.
thanks for the link. sure it is very helpful

jog3ee
16-06-2013, 12:41 AM
brother jog3ee, i have check the page and yes it is indeed very very tight group and he must be "paapi" expert in shooting :becky:. sure i have to make proper arrangements to be an paapi experts like pros on the forum

Well He's a friend :) and he bought his airgun about 3-4 months back. He practices often, and that makes a man perfect.

DaGGerS
16-06-2013, 12:52 AM
Well He's a friend :) and he bought his airgun about 3-4 months back. He practices often, and that makes a man perfect.

indeed! and i practice only on sundays. have to increase time.

High_Roller
16-06-2013, 03:29 AM
How much did u pay for whisper x, i know a dealer in peshawar asking for 20000

High_Roller
16-06-2013, 03:31 AM
where to find gamo or diana items in islamabad / pindi

Peshawar's market is better (cheaper) n it's not tht far frm pindi, u shud visit peshawar for gamo diana etc

sulzar
16-06-2013, 03:53 AM
@@High_Roller Are you from Peshawar ?

yasiralikhan
16-06-2013, 08:58 AM
i got my first wisper x from hamza traders peshawar from 20 thousand about 2 years ago. and about 1 month ago i asked that chinese bushnell, they told me for 3000.

DaGGerS
16-06-2013, 11:54 AM
@High_Roller : i get all the things from peshawar and all the things are purchased by my nephew. indeed this market is cheaper then lahore and rawalpindi but if one has to come from sialkot for the purchases and and if we include cost of travel then the prices are same as lahore and rawalpindi market. another thing if you go beyond the markets of peshawar and can speak Pushto then you can get the things even in half price.

@yasiralikhan : indeed possible. in Peshawar the market is very different. if you can speek Pushto then there is no problem at all for the bargaining but if you are urdu speaking then there is a lot of troubles.

but my opinion is i still got all the things on very reasonable prices still from lahore and pindi market as some on else has purchased for me and a friend of mine bring them to me.

following is the comparison of prices between peshawar and sialkot market:

Details--------------------------------peshawar price-------sialkot price
Gamo Whispere X------------------- 24K--------------------31K
Bushnil 6-24x50 AOE----------------6.5K-------------------15K
Pro Magnum Pellets-----------------340Rs------------------550Rs
H&N Match--------------------------340Rs------------------650Rs
Camo Accessory Back Pack Bag----Free--------------------2K
Gun Cover---------------------------1K----------------------3K

DaGGerS
16-06-2013, 09:57 PM
Please read this article and you'll get the idea
http://www.airgundepot.com/how-to-get-a-springer-to-shoot-straight.html

today i practiced as per article referred by Naweed and yes i have improved a lot. i am making groups in 4 inch and distance is 45 feet. hopefully soon this will reduced to 1 inch + group.

Naweed
16-06-2013, 10:16 PM
today i practiced as per article referred by Naweed and yes i have improved a lot. i am making groups in 4 inch and distance is 45 feet. hopefully soon this will reduced to 1 inch + group.

some airguns shoot accurately right out of the box wheres mostly need a breakin period of around 200 shots ... in ur case it looks like a break in period ... fire two boxes of irani pellets and while firing try to observe its movement and recoil ..... the key is "feather touch" ... do not put pressure on airgun at any contact point and you get a good accuracy

if u ever visit pindi (preferrably on a weekend)come over and i'll give u an express tune service plus a quick aiming lesson ... this weekend we lubed a friends gamo shadow, put new springs and some shims (all process takes about an hour max)now it is a changed airgun firing accuracy of around 1.5" with H&N ftt at 50 yds and hit four birds in four shots .. 2 dropped dead and two dropped a little ahead but were not found ... but this aiming and firing was hand held and i was once again impressed with gamo in fact i'm planning on buying a gamo (just focusing on the model) pretty soon

jog3ee
17-06-2013, 12:22 AM
Naweed bhai :) try your hands on a Hatsan someday.

yasiralikhan
17-06-2013, 06:32 AM
even the hutsan prices are also different in peshawar.

jog3ee
17-06-2013, 10:23 AM
even the hutsan prices are also different in peshawar.

Can you kindly quote some!?

DaGGerS
17-06-2013, 11:48 AM
some airguns shoot accurately right out of the box wheres mostly need a breakin period of around 200 shots ... in ur case it looks like a break in period ... fire two boxes of irani pellets and while firing try to observe its movement and recoil ..... the key is "feather touch" ... do not put pressure on airgun at any contact point and you get a good accuracy

if u ever visit pindi (preferrably on a weekend)come over and i'll give u an express tune service plus a quick aiming lesson ... this weekend we lubed a friends gamo shadow, put new springs and some shims (all process takes about an hour max)now it is a changed airgun firing accuracy of around 1.5" with H&N ftt at 50 yds and hit four birds in four shots .. 2 dropped dead and two dropped a little ahead but were not found ... but this aiming and firing was hand held and i was once again impressed with gamo in fact i'm planning on buying a gamo (just focusing on the model) pretty soon


yes indeed Naweed bahi. i will visit you soon as i am planing to vist some family members in islamabad.

DaGGerS
17-06-2013, 11:49 AM
even the hutsan prices are also different in peshawar.

yes please quote the price!

DaGGerS
17-06-2013, 12:17 PM
indded i need an expert hand for the training and verification of my guns.

yasiralikhan
17-06-2013, 12:52 PM
03009003257. This is the number of hamza traders the owner name is bilal, give him my reference and he will give you good price as he have much variety of airguns including pcp

DaGGerS
17-06-2013, 01:23 PM
i got quote of Gamo PCP for 100K which includes Gun, Scope and Hand Pump. another thing he informaed me is that this gund is made in Birmingham England. (couldnt understand this)

jog3ee
17-06-2013, 03:37 PM
i got quote of Gamo PCP for 100K which includes Gun, Scope and Hand Pump. another thing he informaed me is that this gund is made in Birmingham England. (couldnt understand this)

The Gamo dynamax is made in the BSA plant in England. Gamo own the rights and has significant shareholding in BSA. The package is priced at 100k even here in Khi. dynamax is not the most powerful of PCPs. It is said to be an under 30 fpe gun. A member recently bought this in KHI, we're yet to visit him and test the gun on a chrony with different pellets. Being a pcp it is fairly accurate esp when compared to springers.

Naweed
17-06-2013, 08:13 PM
Can you kindly quote some!?

sorry wrong reply ... self edit

Naweed
17-06-2013, 08:14 PM
Naweed bhai :) try your hands on a Hatsan someday.


Frankly, Hatsan was slightly low on my rating list earlier (due to odd reviews on net) but with your and adam brother's reviews i have changed my priority list with Hatsan at second following the mod52 and may be after firinfg it i update its rating further .... my only issue is the participation of my son who is 12 years with a very frail figure ... he was so excited when he made his first hunt (with shadow 1000) but since hw80 has come, he has almost left this passion and i know he cannot paricipate in a hunt ... my options are (for a really light weight airgun) to either go for a pcp which i might afford but i'm afraid of its running expenses likes kits and pump failure etc, or to go for gamo shadow or gamo wisper ... i'm more inclined towards a wisper wich is 0.5 kg lighter to shadow and with a cp scope it will still be light ... and i think in another year or so pcp will be much cheaper and with parts facility so then i might go for a pcp

i'm always keen to test weapons but unfortunately no one i know owns a hatsan

Naweed
17-06-2013, 08:21 PM
@jog3e

i have quoted my story ... need ur expert views on an accurate airgun with fair power say 15-16 ft-lb and super light weight ... is there any in diana? whispers boasts more fps than shadow will it be true ? what is ur opinion about a .177 because with 900-1000 fps i can reach 70-80 yds easily with accuracy (i hope these guns are accurate at higher fps) ? need help as i'm planning to buy a gamo pretty soon as the hunt season will start in about two months

jog3ee
17-06-2013, 08:42 PM
After reading your 1st post I was about to suggest Diana panther for the little master :) to be honest I'm not a Gamo fan and i think the value for money aspect is slightly low on Gamo guns. For a basic gun I think Shadow 1000 will do, but if its weight is similar or half a kg less than a Diana 31p then go for the 31p. Much much better gun in my opinion.

jog3ee
17-06-2013, 08:43 PM
And yeah, get him that in .177 cal as that caliber giver a flatter trajectory on under 20 fpe guns so he'll pretty much hit where he aims :)

jog3ee
17-06-2013, 09:26 PM
Diana 31p is quoted at 7.5 lbs. I think that weight will be very manageable for junior :) And get it lube tuned. I tried Umair Bhaur's tuned Diana 31 (or was it 34!! anyways same guns diff cosmetics) and it was butter smooth.

DaGGerS
18-06-2013, 12:40 AM
i am having same issue for my son. he can hold the whispere very easily due to its light weight. another thing i like about this gun is its easy loading that my son can easly do. for previous gun b11 i have to do the loading service for him and weight is not bearable for him too.

jog3ee
18-06-2013, 10:42 AM
Naweed bhai , to ease your decision I'll do comparison of Diana 31p and Whisper based strictly on MY opinion (and a bit of internet surfing ;)):

Weight: Whisper takes the lead With 5.3 lbs vs 7.5 lbs
Accuracy: Diana 31 p has the clear edge - 9/10 Diana 7/10 Whisper
Trigger: Diana's T05 and T06 triggers are world class, that on whisper doesn't come close - 9/10 Diana, 6/10 Whisper
Durability: Despite recent complains Diana has the clear edge - Diana 8.5/10, Whisper 7/10.
Looks: Whisper certainly looks cool - Diana 7/10 , Whisper 8.5/10.
Resale: The Diana because of its established name will have the edge over Gamo any given day.
Price: Diana 27-29K vs Whisper 22-24K

nacfpak
18-06-2013, 03:08 PM
need help as i'm planning to buy a gamo pretty soon as the hunt season will start in about two months
take ur time and research on which airgun to get as hunting season is a long time from now,,,starts in november,,so 4 months...

DaGGerS
18-06-2013, 07:29 PM
today i managed to make 2 inch group at distance of 20 yards and i am quite happy with my today's performance. this is all due to the help and advice by the pro seniors. thank you all for your advices. below is the picture of result. the first few shots are totally out but after that they were all in 2 + inch group. the scope was zoomed full to 24x and pellets were Afghan Beeson. and i am quite happy with the performance of these pellets.

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i have almost fired 300 + pellets and now i think that my gun is ready to take some action. but before action i still prefer to verifyed my guns by pro members.

jog3ee
18-06-2013, 08:29 PM
Ok 1 important word of advice Daggers bro! Try not to go max out on zoom. Try to practice at or below 10x zoom because the higher zoom will not only magnify the subject but also the slightest movement of your hands/body. Also it pretty much renders quick target acquisition next to impossible. I do not go beyond 10x zoom even on 70-100 yards.

1 more reason not to go max on zoom is that if you are using a mil-dot scope, your mil-dot estimation, and hence the accuracy will suffer. Greater than 10x zoom shifts the point of impact esp in non FFP (fixed focal plane) scopes in which the cross hair (reticle) is made of a brass wire.

Naweed
18-06-2013, 08:29 PM
Naweed bhai , to ease your decision I'll do comparison of Diana 31p and Whisper based strictly on MY opinion (and a bit of internet surfing ;)):

Weight: Whisper takes the lead With 5.3 lbs vs 7.5 lbs
Accuracy: Diana 31 p has the clear edge - 9/10 Diana 7/10 Whisper
Trigger: Diana's T05 and T06 triggers are world class, that on whisper doesn't come close - 9/10 Diana, 6/10 Whisper
Durability: Despite recent complains Diana has the clear edge - Diana 8.5/10, Whisper 7/10.
Looks: Whisper certainly looks cool - Diana 7/10 , Whisper 8.5/10.
Resale: The Diana because of its established name will have the edge over Gamo any given day.
Price: Diana 27-29K vs Whisper 22-24K

I'm grateful for your expert views ... the problem is weight of airgun ... i'll post a pic of son holding a gun soon and you'll know ... lol .... anyway with a shadow and my previous scope he could easily aim upto i say 25 degress anything on trees and it was difficult ... as far as his firing skills he can shot 1 rs coin at 25 yds (with HW80) with good average ... now i need advice in sub 3.0kg weight if whisper is not as accurate as shadow i might buy a shadow but i think both are same mechanism and likely to have a similar accuracy so either i'll buy a whisper or look for a diana or hatsan in same weight category .. i saw a pic on net one day of a super light diana but didn't save the link so now its lost.

the second question is regarding the availability of whisper x in .177, is it available in the mkt

jog3ee
18-06-2013, 08:30 PM
BTW your results have improved considerably :)

DaGGerS
18-06-2013, 09:01 PM
thanks bro.

Naweed
19-06-2013, 10:54 AM
03009003257. This is the number of hamza traders the owner name is bilal, give him my reference and he will give you good price as he have much variety of airguns including pcp

Dear brother can you get me a final price quote from this shop for whisper x .22 .. i'm not pushto speaking so might get a higher price but i can arrange purchase and collection from there .. i'll be really grateful for ur help

do they have any pcps ?

yasiralikhan
19-06-2013, 01:09 PM
i just one saw a gun with that dealer with IGT technology. i also have one. you wouldn't believe it shot just like pcp with no shock. we can also use vertex in some airguns instead of spring.

Naweed
19-06-2013, 01:58 PM
i just one saw a gun with that dealer with IGT technology. i also have one. you wouldn't believe it shot just like pcp with no shock. we can also use vertex in some airguns instead of spring.

i think hatsans are all gas pistons .. however the brand name IGT comes with Gamo ... if its a gamo i'm interested (because of weight consideration) can you check the model and price please

shahroze
19-06-2013, 02:41 PM
not all hatson models are gas pistons

jog3ee
19-06-2013, 04:02 PM
No Hatsan airguns are all spring powered esp the ones in Pakistan. Hatsan however has introduced the new "Vortex" gas piston which it has just recently started rolling out :)

yasiralikhan
19-06-2013, 04:09 PM
that was with the dealer who's number i have already told you. can not tell anything about the present but he had shadow 1000 igt the asking price was 24k. if you have someone abroad then you can get good models in igt from there. and yes hutsan airguns are spring action guns. they recently introduced vortex, didnt know about its availability in pakistan

Birdshooter007
19-06-2013, 09:36 PM
@Naweed

If getting a Gamo for your son due to weight issue, make sure you get a couple of extra main-springs as well, they'll come in handy after say every 2000 shots as you don't want to waste precious time, money and pellets while hunting. That would ensure clean kills out to say, 50 yards?

yasiralikhan
20-06-2013, 12:12 PM
you are right brother, gamo air rifles loss their strength after shooting about 1500 shots

skhan1231
20-06-2013, 02:43 PM
Price of Gamo Shadow 1000 is 18k and Price of Gamo whisper x .22 cal 24k in Mardan

yasiralikhan
20-06-2013, 03:11 PM
if you want to buy any gun from gamo then buy gamo bull whisper or whisper fusion pro or silent stalker igt. didnt know about the availability in pakistan

jog3ee
20-06-2013, 04:24 PM
if you want to buy any gun from gamo then buy gamo bull whisper or whisper fusion pro or silent stalker igt. didnt know about the availability in pakistan

What's the point of suggesting a gun that isn't available ?? :)

DaGGerS
20-06-2013, 05:35 PM
for shadow i got quote of 15K in peshawar and whisperer x is 24K

DaGGerS
20-06-2013, 05:44 PM
my nephew owns a shadow 1000 since last 4 years and he has fired thousands of pellets and he still can take down a bird from 40 yards on fiber sights. he even didnt serviced his gun in 4 years and before this summer the shows the signs of rusting on the barrel and spring tube. now he is doing just oiling the surface of the gun once in a month. i talked with him about this matter of spring change and he is saying that his gun is doing the job absolutely fine. he is now training him self for the flying shots on this shadow and did manage to take down 3 birds in previous and current month. but that dosent mean that i am a big fan of GAMO. Whisperer X is my 2nd airgun and for the 3rd one i will definitely go for Hatsan 125 Sniper and 4th one is going to be 54 Airking and after that i will go for PCP (the lethal ones)

Naweed
20-06-2013, 05:54 PM
I called the shop and got the price of whisper x as 20k, IGT were out of stock, just to check on their rates i asked for prices of mod52, 54 but these were not available ... gamo dynamax with scope and pump was for 105k .... so i'll buy the whisper x next month inshallah

yasiralikhan
20-06-2013, 09:52 PM
naweed brother i think 20k is a good price of wisper x. if you are intrusted in pcp dont buy dynamax go for BSA R10

Naweed
21-06-2013, 12:10 AM
PCP is something that always interests me so just checking the price ... not affordable at present but might think over it in future ... thanks

DaGGerS
21-06-2013, 07:10 AM
@Naweed

congrats. you got and an excellent quote for the gun.

yasiralikhan
21-06-2013, 12:24 PM
the igt technology or vortex will give you shots just like pcp, not exactly but upto 7o% like that. so try to find that, i think wisper igt will cost you upto 26k

jog3ee
21-06-2013, 12:33 PM
IGT or Vortex not available currently in Pakistan.

yasiralikhan
21-06-2013, 03:54 PM
some time back i saw some igt guns with a dealer in peshawer. he told me that more models will be here after a couple of months in igt. hope if a person search in peshawer will find igt guns. or contact that dealer which i told you and asked him to arrange an igt gun for you

Naweed
21-06-2013, 05:00 PM
i asked the shop keeper about future availability of IGTs, he said more are likely to come soon but these would be chinese (whatever that means) .. there are shop members on this forum i don't know why don't they think of getting gas piston airguns as far as i've studied these are better in performance than springers.

yasiralikhan
23-06-2013, 08:59 AM
brother i personally dont like springers