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Sohail
13-06-2009, 02:16 PM
here you can see pics of my BRNO 7mm bolt action, today or tomorrow we have plan to render first fire from it.


http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/646/14903719.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/5377/78546650.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6392/99795618.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4757/53903265.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/)

TalalKhan
13-06-2009, 02:19 PM
Nice gun bro! which model? Check on the top near the rare sights

Hamid
13-06-2009, 02:23 PM
Its beautiful. What's its price.

Imu10
13-06-2009, 02:43 PM
Sir as i told u the gun which u have bought is a very nice piece for the price u paid
so... just keep looking and keep adoring :)

Sohail
13-06-2009, 02:57 PM
talal:its BRNO 7mm. which side you talking about


hamid: price is classified :)

Imu: thanks for your liking, now i have plan to go for semi auto beretta 12 Ga.

regards

Sohail
13-06-2009, 02:59 PM
market price starts from 60k, dealer price 53k:)

regards

TalalKhan
13-06-2009, 03:01 PM
@Sohail, Bro, I am talking about right in front of OR behind rare sights....there must be a model number/name. Is it written in plain; 7mm BRNO ???? I mean no model number or anything?

Sohail
13-06-2009, 03:09 PM
ok talal right now i am out of it will let you know soon

regards

HassaanAfzal
13-06-2009, 03:22 PM
Its a nice looking gun congrats sohail bhai and dont forget to give us the review after shooting :)

Moin
13-06-2009, 03:25 PM
congratz sohail where will you do the opening ceremony at range or some other place. from which dealer you purchased

Turumti
13-06-2009, 03:35 PM
Nice rifle. What scope and mounts do you have on it. And what ammo do you plan using?

Yoosha
13-06-2009, 03:42 PM
that is a mean machine...
it is meant to inflict damage and gracefully destroy the enemy.
congrats

Osam
13-06-2009, 03:54 PM
that is a mean machine...
it is meant to inflict damage and gracefully destroy the enemy.
congrats
Its a pure hunting rifle, not an assault rifle so no enemy involved.
@Sohail bhai, where did you get it from? From Saifuddin? and how much for ;) lol

Saeen
13-06-2009, 06:23 PM
nice find there Sohail :)

Abbas
13-06-2009, 07:44 PM
Excellent rifle. Congratulations Sohail !

Ahmad
13-06-2009, 11:11 PM
nice rifle, happy shooting

Nabeel
13-06-2009, 11:34 PM
very nice

MUSTANIR
14-06-2009, 12:55 AM
happy shoooting,,, but will be your query wid 7mm... boars or ??????????

BERETTA M9 9mm
14-06-2009, 02:00 AM
Nice rifle..................Sohail

SAJJAD ALI
14-06-2009, 03:40 AM
This is my OLD BRNO 7mm Rifle.
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7928/43861927.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxeHkpS)

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/805/57698053.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVtiMR9)

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/1687/41497275.th.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqz89Bi)

Aamar
14-06-2009, 10:28 AM
Thats a ZKK 600 , i have the same one :D

Sialvi
14-06-2009, 11:07 AM
happy shoooting,,, but will be your query wid 7mm... boars or ??????????
hmmm. most probably its "or"

Sialvi
14-06-2009, 11:08 AM
anyway really nice weapon. mubarak.

Pir Sahib
29-06-2009, 01:04 AM
BRNO 7mm in market are local assembled

Enigmatic Desires
29-06-2009, 07:42 PM
Whats the maximum effective range of your rifle?

Turumti
01-07-2009, 02:13 AM
The Brno 7mm is probably the best readily available 7x57 bolt action rifle available in Pakistan, and it is excellent bang for the buck. It is relatively flat shooting and far reaching calibre with a Maximum Pount Blank Range of 279 yards, it is more than enough gun for all species of medium sized game here. In fact, more four legged game of all types has been taken with the 7x57 and the 12 gauge in our country than all other calibres combined. Barring the markhor, Himalayan Ibex and Marco Polo's sheep, perhaps, it is good enough for wildboar, Sindh Ibex, urial, chinkara, and hogdeer.

Now lest the proponents of magnum calibres jump to their defence, I say, "Gentlemen, shot placement".

Aamar
01-07-2009, 10:44 AM
@ Turumti: Well said :D

TAREEN
01-07-2009, 11:23 AM
@Sohail.....Belated MUBARAK brother. Although bolt-action rifles being among my few favorite forms of firearms, I kept skipping this thread to read & write LATER. So before it gets VERY late, Congratulations.

A R K TAREEN
01-07-2009, 05:08 PM
The Brno 7mm is probably the best readily available 7x57 bolt action rifle available in Pakistan, and it is excellent bang for the buck. It is relatively flat shooting and far reaching calibre with a Maximum Pount Blank Range of 279 yards, it is more than enough gun for all species of medium sized game here. In fact, more four legged game of all types has been taken with the 7x57 and the 12 gauge in our country than all other calibres combined. Barring the markhor, Himalayan Ibex and Marco Polo's sheep, perhaps, it is good enough for wildboar, Sindh Ibex, urial, chinkara, and hogdeer.

Now lest the proponents of magnum calibres jump to their defence, I say, "Gentlemen, shot placement".

Very informative note Turumti, thanks for sharing.
Regards

A R K TAREEN
01-07-2009, 05:30 PM
Dear brother Sohail
Wonderful and classic piece you have bought. MASHALLAH, I think this is the same rifle which you had when we were met first time at Famous.
Take care and enjoy, with best regards.

Enigmatic Desires
03-07-2009, 10:06 AM
Hmm so hte 7mm is essentialy a medium range rifle that can reach out til almost 300 yards..
But then most hunting hand guns fitted wiht scopes can do the same..

I thought that the 7mm being a rifle would have a longer reach

Aamar
03-07-2009, 10:13 AM
Hmm so hte 7mm is essentialy a medium range rifle that can reach out til almost 300 yards..
But then most hunting hand guns fitted wiht scopes can do the same..

I thought that the 7mm being a rifle would have a longer reach

300 yards is a long long distance, shooting over that range is a skill very few people have ..... Most big game in Pakistan is taken mostly below the 100 yards mark ........ :D

Enigmatic Desires
03-07-2009, 10:15 AM
agreed.. but a .44 magnum equiped wiht a scope is capable of the same performence..

I dont think I wil be adding a 7mm to my collection

Imu10
03-07-2009, 11:51 AM
Hmm so hte 7mm is essentialy a medium range rifle that can reach out til almost 300 yards..
But then most hunting hand guns fitted wiht scopes can do the same..

I thought that the 7mm being a rifle would have a longer reach

how far u want to go from 300 yeards with an open sight trust me u cant even see the target at 30 yards
7mm bolt action rifle has a flat trajectory uptill 300 yards and than after that the bullet starts to drop,
For and medium plain game animal 7mm is very effective and ideal rifle with a nice 4x or 6x decent scope like bushnell and leupold

A R K TAREEN
03-07-2009, 10:31 PM
I think your analysis is more appealing and acceptable, thanks for discussing.
Regards

Conceal Carry
03-07-2009, 10:46 PM
nice rifle Sohail, Congratulations!

Glocky
24-09-2009, 10:52 PM
Can anyone give a brief personal review or guide me to any internet links regarding this rifle. What exact calibre is this........ 7mm ?? i have read on the forum that the ammo for this calibre is cheap in Pakistan, any particular reason why ?? Would this be a good choice as a cheap yet good quality game/range rifle ??

@ Sohail, can u pls post a picture of the box or the rifle markings i.e. just the model number, or just quote the model number
I cannot figure out which model is this.

Slayerjatt
24-09-2009, 11:03 PM
lovely gun MASHAALLAH.

Nabeel
24-09-2009, 11:06 PM
@Glocky

Caliber 7x57mm_Mauser

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7x57mm_Mauser

Some Reviews

http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/772953/

http://www.norma.cc/content.asp?Typ=59&Lang=2&DocumentID=269&Submeny=4&Rubrik=Calibers&Title=7x57%20Mauser

7x57 Mauser (Source: http://www.chuckhawks.com/sensible_cartridges.htm)

The 7x57 Mauser, like the 6.5x55 Swede, is a military cartridge that dates back to the end of the 19th Century. And like the 6.5x55, it became a popular hunting cartridge world-wide. The 7x57 is another one of those well balanced cartridges that seems to kill game better than its paper specifications suggest that it should. Or maybe it is just that most of us fail to realize that increasing the velocity and power of a .284 inch bullet much beyond 7x57 levels gets us into the realm of rapidly diminishing returns. The longer .280 Remington and other similar capacity cartridges actually add little killing power, but their increased recoil and muzzle blast make it seem as if they do.

The truth is that the 7x57 has proven itself adequate for even the world's biggest game under the right circumstances. The same WDM Bell that I wrote about in the section on the 6.5x55, famous slayer of African elephants for their ivory, used the 7x57 extensively. He appreciated the light recoil, accuracy, and deep penetration of the 175 grain FMJ 7mm bullet, and felt that the combination made a superb cartridge for executing elephants with precisely placed brain shots.

For the North American deer hunter, or the hunter of similar size game world-wide, the 139-145 grain bullets factory loaded to about 2700 fps make a good choice. These give the 7x57 a reasonably flat trajectory and hit plenty hard enough for most North American big game. Hornady offers a Light Magnum load that gives their 139 grain SP bullet a MV of 2950 fps. This makes the 7x57 an effective long range cartridge.

The 7x57, like many of the sensible cartridges, is under loaded by the major ammo companies in deference to the old military rifles that are still out there in the hands of the public. The official industry pressure for the 7x57 is 46,000 cup. 7x57 cartridges for modern rifles can be safely loaded to 50,000 cup, and this allows reloaders to drive the popular 139-140 grain bullets at about 2800 fps.

For large game like elk and moose, the 150-160 grain bullets are probably preferable, and these can be driven to velocities in the 2600-2700 fps range. The Norma factory load drives a 150 grain bullet at a MV of 2690.

The very heavy 175 grain bullets (SD .310) offer more penetration than is probably required for any North American game, but can be driven to about 2500 fps. The factory loads take this weight bullet to 2440 fps.

Moderate recoil makes for accurate shooting, and this has always been the 7x57's forte. According to my Rifle Recoil Table, the 140 grain bullet at 2700 fps in an 8 pound rifle generates about 12.5 ft. lbs. of recoil energy. At 2800 fps the 140 grain bullet fired in the same rifle kicks with about 14 ft. lbs. of energy, still under the 15 ft. lb. level that allows most riflemen to do their best shooting.

Considering its all-around performance (including trajectory, killing power, and recoil) the 7x57 is nearly an ideal 7mm cartridge. Which is why it is included here.

Malik1
24-09-2009, 11:11 PM
Congrats. I saw the thread today. Happy hunting sir :)

Glocky
24-09-2009, 11:12 PM
Thank you Nabeel for the quick reply. :)

any idea which model is this one ?? there are different models referred to on the net i still am not sure which one we get here in Pakistan.

Nabeel
24-09-2009, 11:14 PM
7x57 Mauser (Source: http://www.chuckhawks.com/sensible_cartridges.htm)

The 7x57 Mauser, like the 6.5x55 Swede, is a military cartridge that dates back to the end of the 19th Century. And like the 6.5x55, it became a popular hunting cartridge world-wide. The 7x57 is another one of those well balanced cartridges that seems to kill game better than its paper specifications suggest that it should. Or maybe it is just that most of us fail to realize that increasing the velocity and power of a .284 inch bullet much beyond 7x57 levels gets us into the realm of rapidly diminishing returns. The longer .280 Remington and other similar capacity cartridges actually add little killing power, but their increased recoil and muzzle blast make it seem as if they do.

The truth is that the 7x57 has proven itself adequate for even the world's biggest game under the right circumstances. The same WDM Bell that I wrote about in the section on the 6.5x55, famous slayer of African elephants for their ivory, used the 7x57 extensively. He appreciated the light recoil, accuracy, and deep penetration of the 175 grain FMJ 7mm bullet, and felt that the combination made a superb cartridge for executing elephants with precisely placed brain shots.

For the North American deer hunter, or the hunter of similar size game world-wide, the 139-145 grain bullets factory loaded to about 2700 fps make a good choice. These give the 7x57 a reasonably flat trajectory and hit plenty hard enough for most North American big game. Hornady offers a Light Magnum load that gives their 139 grain SP bullet a MV of 2950 fps. This makes the 7x57 an effective long range cartridge.

The 7x57, like many of the sensible cartridges, is under loaded by the major ammo companies in deference to the old military rifles that are still out there in the hands of the public. The official industry pressure for the 7x57 is 46,000 cup. 7x57 cartridges for modern rifles can be safely loaded to 50,000 cup, and this allows reloaders to drive the popular 139-140 grain bullets at about 2800 fps.

For large game like elk and moose, the 150-160 grain bullets are probably preferable, and these can be driven to velocities in the 2600-2700 fps range. The Norma factory load drives a 150 grain bullet at a MV of 2690.

The very heavy 175 grain bullets (SD .310) offer more penetration than is probably required for any North American game, but can be driven to about 2500 fps. The factory loads take this weight bullet to 2440 fps.

Moderate recoil makes for accurate shooting, and this has always been the 7x57's forte. According to my Rifle Recoil Table, the 140 grain bullet at 2700 fps in an 8 pound rifle generates about 12.5 ft. lbs. of recoil energy. At 2800 fps the 140 grain bullet fired in the same rifle kicks with about 14 ft. lbs. of energy, still under the 15 ft. lb. level that allows most riflemen to do their best shooting.

Considering its all-around performance (including trajectory, killing power, and recoil) the 7x57 is nearly an ideal 7mm cartridge. Which is why it is included here.

Nabeel
24-09-2009, 11:19 PM
Maybe this link can help you in identifying the model

http://www.czub.cz/en/catalog/81-centerfire-rifles-cz.aspx

Moin
25-09-2009, 08:33 AM
good work nabeel

Skeeter60
25-09-2009, 10:23 AM
Nabeel
I agree the 7x57 is a great cartridge
When you hand load a 7x57 it clips the heels of the faster magnums, it is far superior to many cartridges/ calibers as its bullets have much higher BC and SD with proper bullets.

CougarMan
25-09-2009, 09:36 PM
This is a very good rifle. The 7mm caliber is perfect for Pakistani game and it is probably the cheapest in the market as well making it an economical proposition. The cost of .243 and .270 ammo makes it a no brainer.

Shooting game at beyond 100 yards is not a good idea and it is definitely not sporting. IMU10 is correct, it is quite difficult to accurately hit a target at distance, especially in the field.

Enigmatic Desires: a .44 Magnum revolver with a scope is not capable of the same performance. You cannot compare performance of a handgun with a rifle.

Glocky
25-09-2009, 09:50 PM
Thank you all (especially NABEEL) for the valuable comments, i appreciate the help.

Now i need to find it in the khi market. :)

Gangster
26-09-2009, 06:24 PM
Very valuable and informative Nabeel. Thanks!

Anthrax
29-09-2009, 02:41 AM
Question:

1. What is the price of this rifle in Lahore Market (With Scope)?

2. Can you purchase this rifle on a MOI license?

Thanks

Sohail
29-09-2009, 10:39 AM
antrax:

ansers:

1: must be around 50K in Lhr. (plus scope, which starts from 12k to 700 $)
2: not in punjab.


regards

Slayerjatt
29-09-2009, 04:27 PM
antrax:

ansers:

2: not in punjab.


regard;9s

damn.:(

GatlinGun
11-11-2009, 04:24 PM
What is the current price for ZKK 600 series? Dealer recommendations?

Vik
28-12-2009, 04:52 AM
Just a question. 7mm is not PB.

Hamid
28-12-2009, 08:42 AM
In Sindh, it ain't PB

GhulamMurtaza
30-01-2010, 03:09 AM
dear sohail what is the price of ring mounts you have used in your BRNO 7x57 and are they easeyle available

Shazi
01-02-2010, 02:53 PM
Dear Sohail, Congrats.

Gurus, Can one buy this or same caliber rifle on MOI NPB license.

ali26300
28-02-2010, 03:10 PM
nice rifle congrats

Sohail
28-02-2010, 04:18 PM
sorry for replying late.

Hamid: so far there is no issue in sindh to have it on NPB, but in Punjab you can only get it on NP.
Shazi: boss if your NPB carries the address of Sindh, there is no issue as i have stated above as well.
Ghulammurtaza: brother, yes it is available in the market, i purhcased both the ring and scope for 13k, very appropriate for BRNO :)

Aquarius
02-03-2010, 08:10 AM
Brno ZKK 600 7mm rifle.. very accurate & light but the kick(recoil) is heavy..I have one gifted by my father.. love it.

Sohail
02-03-2010, 12:00 PM
i call it 'nasha' rather recoil :)

regards

ChocTalpur
09-03-2010, 08:31 PM
@ Sohail. Sir, where did you buy those mounts and scope.

See, i have recently purchased a BRNO 7mm bolt action, but i fail to find appropriate mounts for a Bushnell 3-9x40 scope. My gunsmith suggested scopes either by millet or leupold. Millet is unavailable, leupold is very expensive. Any suggestions are welcome.

Regards.

Sohail
10-03-2010, 10:07 AM
chocTalpur: bro,i bought them 7-8 months ago, dont go for millet and specially leupold, which itself will cost your around 25k plus that bushnell. better go for that wide one bushnell whihc comes with mounts, i bought it from karachi, ammar & co. (infact he was out of the stock and gave me the favor by arranging it from the market)

so when ever you come to khi just visit the market, you will find one.

regards

ChocTalpur
10-03-2010, 12:40 PM
Ok. Thanks brother. I'll check it out.

Cheers.

Aquarius
10-03-2010, 06:37 PM
@ChocTalpur: Brother what is your location.. I will advise you to stay away from Millet & Leopold as these are way too expensive. If you ever get a chance to come to Peshawar go to Karkhano market, Sitara market.. I am sure you will get a nice scope for arround 5k to 8k.. & believe me they are as good as leopold....

Dr Hanif Malik
10-03-2010, 08:04 PM
@ChocTalpur: Brother what is your location.. I will advise you to stay away from Millet & Leopold as these are way too expensive. If you ever get a chance to come to Peshawar go to Karkhano market, Sitara market.. I am sure you will get a nice scope for arround 5k to 8k.. & believe me they are as good as leopold....
@brother,good advice,i am planning same one but mostly china scopes are there with english good brand name,how will we able to search proper scope there???:)

Aquarius
10-03-2010, 11:10 PM
@Dr Hanif Malik bro: There are many different qualities even in Chinese stuff, which can easily be identified by looking & comparing... good quality chinese scopes are also very good in this price range...

ChocTalpur
11-03-2010, 12:12 AM
@ Aquarius. Brother i reside in Hyderabad. Peshawar is way beyond my reach.

Albeit, I've heard from a few rifle enthusiasts that cheap mounts will effect the accuracy of the scope, eventually i'll have to get my rifle zeroed after say 10 shots max. Millet or leupold on the other hand will cater the issue. I'm still viewing my options.

Cheers.

Dr Hanif Malik
11-03-2010, 07:42 AM
@Dr Hanif Malik bro: There are many different qualities even in Chinese stuff, which can easily be identified by looking & comparing... good quality chinese scopes are also very good in this price range...
aquarius sahab,inshalla i will visit the markeet later and will get help by you thanks:)

Aquarius
11-03-2010, 11:25 AM
Dr Hanif Malik bro: You are most welcome Sir & many congratulations on becoming Lord..........

ARlover
24-05-2010, 08:06 PM
wich scope is best for brno zkk600:)

Dr Hanif Malik
25-05-2010, 06:43 AM
mak has bushnell on his rifle,g gun leuopold,sohail and other fellow can help,but some experience hunters advice will be more authority:)

ARlover
25-05-2010, 03:56 PM
Tariq786 bro:) its not dossul made dossul made guns more waight then mine

Sohail
25-05-2010, 03:58 PM
tariq: available stock in the market is all assembled by dossal but as mentioned on first page but there is vast difference between, PH, BSA & BRNO. BRNO being superior due to its genuine imported parts.

there is another economical propostiosn for scope is BSA, Leopold is another good but expensive option.

ARlover
25-05-2010, 04:33 PM
SOHAIL BRO WICH model of bsa scope

Sohail
26-05-2010, 12:56 PM
frankly i dont remembe the model, but Haris has the stuff.

regadrs

Nazim Sahib
16-06-2010, 04:54 AM
very nice rifle...

MianTaimur
16-06-2010, 04:45 PM
Brno 7mm is an amazing rifle, I have held it and the feel is awesome. (It is on my wishlist of my wardrobe make over)
However I have a question from experienced hunters, why do I hear people saying that a 7mm calibre weapon is not ideal for hunting ?
I have read in an earlier post , the 7mm round would travel around 240 yards ! fair enough, but why do people say 30-06, 30-08 or 222 is better for hunting ? Is it because of the bullets travel range ?

Birdshooter007
08-04-2012, 12:58 AM
This BRNO 7mm looks even better...

gunenthusiast
09-04-2012, 02:30 PM
where can one find BRNO 7MM rifle in rawalpindi/peshawar?any idea about prices?